Open 561: Farmer's Market (Game Over)

[Xayzeck]

Hi

I've played this setup once

Havent caught up yet tho

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Yep, I was

I replaced in mylo and made like, 10 post. Most of it was predecessor's work

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Hello.

This is a lot of walls to go through, I'll get around to finishing it sometime soon.

There seems to be a lot of talk about setup, why not break town up into pairs, and have them fruit each other? If next day? All claim fruited, than we know scum are paired. If not, then we can judge from kills and what not.

And, if scum are paired, it's just find one, lynch the other. Right?

Idk, alternatively we could just lynch scum today and fruit the person below

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I think the fruiting is more optimal if we hit scum today, btw.

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If scum end up together on the list, then we'd have wasted a night of fruiting.

Which was why I was thinking of doing it in pairs, so then if everybody claims fruited, and we manage to lynch scum, we've got the other scum too.

Make sense?

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Right, now one little thing that I don't get, maybe because I missed it

Why is it, if we lynch maf, only the odd players are fruiting?

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There is, it's released. On mobile so I'm lazy, but go to my topics, I think it was open 533 or 553? Wisdom posted the mod QT, and in there he link the scum QT

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No. We haven't wasted it. We now know that both scum are together on the list. That's valuable information

And how would it be useful for us? To redo fruiting orders? We'd have just wasted a round of fruit.

Fruiting in pairs is more ideal, plus we'd get conftown

Buuuut I just realised fruiting in pairs won't work well if scum are paired.

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Haven't caught up fully, because there's a lot of walls

If scum are paired, we won't know yknow

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We could save fruiting for after we hit scum tho

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Haven't caught up fully, because there's a lot of walls

If scum are paired, we won't know yknow

just going to quote this

because i think if scum are paired, we'd never know.

unless we mislynch once after the fruit

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Wwhether I agree or not...what's your point Xay?

Well, if scum aren't paired, then we lynch the partner of the night kill, right?

And if scum are paired, they kill random and get someone framed, it spreads paranoia and gets us a mislynch

And we won't know until AFTER the mislynch that they're paired.

So if paired, we would have just wasted a day.

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I got fruit

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Actually, that was dumb.

Successfully passing between partners doesn't clear anyone simply because there are two scum. And one could have just passed normally. ;___;

yepyep

aronis probably forgot to fruit, null, could be scum, should not be near endgame

DJ, likewise

we should wait for reactions and lynch accordingly

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someone died. unless the scum are paired, whoever didn't give fruit is scum. right? if aronis flips town, then we know a)dj is not scum b)ice is not scum(unless aronis accuses him of lying) and c) scum is in a pair. right? I don't know. this is gonna make my head hurt, but let me know if I'm wrong. what are the possibilities here?

I don't get how aronis town means you're not scum?

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Can I not fruit?

I like having a shot of fruit for when we actually do lynch scum so I can conftown

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We're mislynching me!

you're post trigger happy arent ya

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your clutter really doesn't help us you know

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I'm confused. We aren't passing if we're lynching scum.

Ugh, but I guess I can change the order.

no, like if aronis is town, because I would like to fruit if we lynch scum

because then if scum kill then i'm conftown yknow?

pedit: we aren't? oooo okay

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arnois pls stop or i'll just drop the hammer thanks

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Oh fuck I forgot to fruit

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But nobody died so I guess I saved fruit eh

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i am fruited btw

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why is it that we don't lynch DJ?

I mean, didn't his fruiting partner die?

Did I perhaps miss something?

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I gave fruit to xay and received fruit.

indeed

if we mislynch you can fruit me again anyway

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@Xay, Aronis killed DJ's partner.

Or Aronis didn't check into the QT and so DJ just killed his partner

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Come on it's not that hard to consider

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Aronis was partnered with IceGuy.

DJ was paired with Bulge.

Aronis flippsed scum, Bulge got killed.

Therefore, purely because of setup, I don't think IceGuy and DJ should be anywhere near endgame.

Because Bulge either died because:
DJ was scum
Scum were paired

Because all the other pairs went through(i think too lazy to confirm this).

So can we lynch both of them and get this over with? Why are there votes on other people right now?

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Because Bulge either died because:
DJ was scum
Scum were paired

Ok this isn't accurate, I kinda just realised after I posted.

I still stand by that neither of them should be close to endgame, though I'm more insistent on DJ than I am on Ice, because if it was Aronis/Ice I'm not sure why they bussed.

VOTE: DJ

So if you've got any reason for us not to lynch DJ ever, then please do bring it up.

If not, we're gonna end up lynching him anyway, and I'd like that to happen now.

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hi please explain to me why aronis killed bulge

what if aronis just didn't fruit and flaked the night

and then DJ had to kill his fruiting buddy

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There was no reason to kill Bulge other than to FRAME Don.

OR DON COULD BE SCUM

AND ARONIS, LIKE HOW HE FORGOT THE GAME

FORGOT TO CHECK INTO THE MAF QT

AND BADABING BADABOOM

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but I don't see why they wouldn't have submitted the kill through the MIA person.

you can make other people submit stuff

right I almost forgot that

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Is that common knowledge? Because I don't think I've seen that in any of my scum qts

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Someone had to tell me in game that it was possible, but yeah I didn't see it anywhere on a scumQT or role pm or anything.

or maybe you did it in the scumqt that's why you brought it up DUNDUNDUN

lol jk i don't think so

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Xayzeck, I really don't have much of an opinion on. Seems to be under the radar in my reads, as I don't have many notes on them in general. I'm going to have to change that.

i am town

Really though, I replaced in because TSO I think had to replace out of almost all of his games? So I decided to replace into one of his games just to help mods out and what not.

The setup was fun for the 3 pages I played in my last game.

And honestly, I have not read up yet, since setup has taken down 1 scum lynch already. I'm not particularly concerned about catching up, I'll probably just read from interacting in the current situation. I've got like mild townreads and scumreads already

Soooooo yeah

Just read me as town and move on, or lynch me and pray maf kills and you fruit so you can get conftown

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why did you put yourself on the list

i like that don and ice are in there too

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aaaaaaaaand prod dodge

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i am fine with both ice and DJ

whatever floats the boat, but both should be roped either way

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i'd go for DJ if Ice lynch doesn't end the game

i'd go for Ice if DJ lynch doesn't end the game

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Would move to Ice, but I don't know if it's hammer, so I'll wait for the VC

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VOTE: Ice

I was waiting for a VC, but w/e

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VOTE: DJ

In case that was not hammer

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no one ever confirmed giving me fruit. you may want to make sure xay still has some.

I've got 1 fruit left

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FUCKING

I WASTED MY FRUIT

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i don't have any pm regarding fruit

so i don't think i received any

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VOTE: ice

if you still have fruit, claim

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claiming fruit was for everyone, not ice

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Hi

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I do not have anything to add. I thought it was quite clear Ice isn't getting close to end game

[Xayzeck]

thoughts?

well

yolo maybe

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Xay who do you have as town, and who could be scum?

Bins is one of those "I forgot why but town"

You are town

I'm leaning Niel over Young for scum

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The rest of the posts are walls I will read on a computer

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Wow

What a blow up

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Feels a little fake

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Too much reaction for a read presented by a non-prominent player that has little substantiation for you to understand

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if i'm not voting you, that means i'm not sure

FF asked what i thought the gamestate was like, you seconded that question, and I responded. I have FF and Bins as town. Do you disagree with that? I lean you over Young, do you know why? (it's largely because of how he entered this Day, but given how large your reaction was, i'm reconsidering it as "already knew what to do today")

Your response isn't exactly town/scumhunting either you know

[Xayzeck]

i think we should lynch today

i don't see the point in no-lynching really? unless you have an ideal scenario in mind niel

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neil* lol

either way i'm just going to stand by the "town should try and control the flips" and say we lynch today, even if that lands us in lylo tomorrow.

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Man, I'm not even sad if I lose this anymore. I kind of just want it out of my bookmarks section.

VOTE: Neil

Dont do that thing where you make me start to doubt the townread on you that was already getting shaky

How sure are you of this?

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I shall have more to say come tomorrow.

im guessing

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Why wouldn't you let her answer?

im sorry

really though i'm not sure what answer you were expecting, i found it pretty obvious, i don't know how you would identify a town/scum reaction

but maybe you had something thought up

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I've had a problem with his posts for days now.

I've had SO much of a problem, I've convinced myself scum wouldn't be that bad.

It's down between Edgey and Neil, imo. I say let's just get it over with because the more I read the more paranoid I get that you or Xay is scum.

refresh me on this, what kind of problems?

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Young?

I could do Young with you.

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so much apathy in this game

I think former is town

I'm not so sure on bins anymore, whoever has a good solid townread on bins please enlighten me

niel has shifted up slightly

preference currently leaning toward a young lynch

tempted to just get this game over with and just try and get through 3p lylo tomorrow

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VOTE: Young

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Neil you gon hammz?

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Works too

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Sweeeeeet