Open 566: Murder on the Oriental Express (Game Over)

Titus · Post Post #780 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:19 pm

Bunch of new players. I will need to read tonight.

Titus · Post Post #807 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:17 pm

Blah just reading from my subin. Toby looks town.

Titus · Post Post #810 (isolation #2) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:22 am

VOTE: Chaoslord

Keeping wagons up for vca.

Titus · Post Post #844 (isolation #3) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:14 am

I hold nk analysis for later. I have zero intent of rocking the boat so close to deadline. I am keeping a wagon other than Beli viable to force players to choose.

Titus · Post Post #849 (isolation #4) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:21 am

In post 845, farside22 wrote:
In post 844, Titus wrote:I hold nk analysis for later. I have zero intent of rocking the boat so close to deadline. I am keeping a wagon other than Beli viable to force players to choose.

So you think chaos is scum? Or you don't think Beli's is scum?

Deliberately not making an opinion. I am forcing those in the game who have read and pushed theorues to decide.

Titus · Post Post #851 (isolation #5) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:39 am

Toby, someone has to move. There are four or five undecideds. If no one votes Beli, hammering will not matter. I am eliminating the excuse of Beli being the only viable wagon.

Titus · Post Post #853 (isolation #6) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:52 am

Royal Ape, Naked Jogger,and Beli. Basically people who are not on either wagon.

Titus · Post Post #873 (isolation #7) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:51 am

In post 857, Riddleton wrote:
In post 855, acryon wrote:
In post 849, Titus wrote:
In post 845, farside22 wrote:
In post 844, Titus wrote:I hold nk analysis for later. I have zero intent of rocking the boat so close to deadline. I am keeping a wagon other than Beli viable to force players to choose.

So you think chaos is scum? Or you don't think Beli's is scum?

Deliberately not making an opinion. I am forcing those in the game who have read and pushed theorues to decide.

This is stupid. You have just as much of a voice, and potentially a better perspective since you can read it all fresh.

He does it for VCA purposes. Some people enjoy analysing that to find scum, in addition to other methods which you may be more familiar with.

Indeed. I tend to value VCA a lot at endgame.

That being said, I will be out most of the day so....

VOTE: Beli

Titus · Post Post #889 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:09 pm

@Acyron, you can tell a lot by being silent and forcing players who have read the game to take a stand. I hammered when the last lurker came on.

If scum shot me, it would be a big indicator they liked the gamestate. The NakedJogger kill probably suggests scum want to focus on the hammer. That's a bet I will take.

VOTE: Scrambles

Titus · Post Post #890 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:10 pm

Farside is town btw...

Titus · Post Post #893 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:43 am

@Farside, it is the argument you had Day 1 with Beli. He is right that replaceouts are null. Yet he includes a "serious vote" on you with his comments. That vote helps start a counterwagon to scrambles. It is a pretty strong chainsaw.

I also think Amy is likely town. Beli has said that scum tend to include a buddy in their lists. I doubt he has here.

Titus · Post Post #894 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:45 am

In post 562, Belisarius wrote:Nope! I don't grok the case on chaos at all. Chaos is just lynchbait.

Chaos also needs more looking into.

Curious is likely town.

Titus · Post Post #914 (isolation #12) » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:43 am

@Farside, I'm not referring to the ultimate end wagon. I'm looking at Beli's first hard defense. Beli hard defended Hiraki's replaceout as null and voted you for wanting to solve that. I could see scum wanting to tear you down for doing something logically unsound but at that point in the game voting you seems a little over the top.

@curious, I can agree on akyon but I'm not certain why. Toby's probably town though. I had the same gut feeling about akryon when reading over the end of day yesterday.

Titus · Post Post #962 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:13 pm

Scarmbles, random question. Can you link me to all finished games you have and include the proximate timeframe.

Titus · Post Post #965 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:11 am

@Curious, you can pick up the VCA after I die. It's kinda my thing.

As a side note, I wasn't trustinh NJ to hammer. Never trust a lurker to hamner.

Titus · Post Post #972 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:54 am

In post 967, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 965, Titus wrote:@Curious, you can pick up the VCA after I die. It's kinda my thing.

As a side note, I wasn't trustinh NJ to hammer. Never trust a lurker to hamner.

since I was gone at the time when you hammered I am not sure about this, how much time was left in the day when you hammered?

also, "VCA"? whats that? and why are you going to die?

As town, my VCA (vote count analysis) has generally been spot on in larges and any scumteam would fear that. Right now I want to sort scrambles and acyon.

There was less than a day when I hammered and I waited until I was out for the day to hammer.

Titus · Post Post #997 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:18 pm

Scrambles stop avoiding me.

Titus · Post Post #1002 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:06 am

In post 998, acryon wrote:
In post 997, Titus wrote:Scrambles stop avoiding me.

If you are referring to you questioning him about linking his completed games and time-frames, you could have easily done it yourself in the time you've been waiting.

Not if he has played on other sites with usernames. I want this for a reason.

Titus · Post Post #1037 (isolation #18) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:31 pm

In post 1023, scrambles wrote:
In post 962, Titus wrote:Scarmbles, random question. Can you link me to all finished games you have and include the proximate timeframe.

I actually have no finished games on mafiascum.
I just finished one on a different site and im currently modding a game.

How long ago was that?

Titus · Post Post #1038 (isolation #19) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:32 pm

In post 1031, scrambles wrote:I have massive arguments with players all the time. On my other site, im kinda known for it, and a lot of people call it detrimental.
however, normally in an argument like this I would say amy is town. Scum just dont argue this much or with such fervor.

Remind me to go to your home site and show them how to play scum.

Titus · Post Post #1047 (isolation #20) » Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:46 am

In post 1046, ChannelDelibird wrote:UNVOTE: Amy

Nonetheless, going to rethink. I want people to propose alternatives; even if I'm right, Belisarius had two buddies.

Conftown. Amy is town too most likely.

Titus · Post Post #1048 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:49 am

In post 348, scrambles wrote:Hos curious
I definitely did not say anything about chaos being scum. You are putting words in my mouth and trying to shame me into voting him.
in my experience, scum like to ramp townies up til the edge and then bus other townies to make for easy combos.

Instead of playing into that game, im voting for my scum read.
lastly, it is disbanding. I can see people starting to focus on other reasonably suspicious people pike skelda. I dont think reasonably suspicious people are ever good lunches. Both chaos and skelda do the reasonably suspicious profile. Imo those are bad lynches.

In post 432, scrambles wrote:Lol this is one of my favorite games in a while

These two posts strongly imply you have played more than one game that just ended Tuesday. I do not like being lied to.

Titus · Post Post #1050 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:24 am

In post 990, acryon wrote:
In post 989, ChannelDelibird wrote:

Kudos to both Beli and one of CDB's posts for instantly making everyone vote for me. I'm not even going to bother right now because clearly I'm getting lynched. Yes I'm giving up, yes it's bad, but I completely lose it when people vote me when I'm town. WIFOM alert, but as scum I tend to actually play to my wincon in these situations and try to get the wagon off me.

Examples, please!

I'd also like to point out that it seems very odd that someone would "completely lose it" when people vote them as town. Multiple townies are usually mislynched every game. Does it suck? Yes, but it happens every game. It seems odd to have such a reaction to something that happens
all the time
.

Probably scum. I lose it frequently as town is I am the mislynch. My losing it is usually relative to the amount of confidence I have in my team nailing the other scum.

Titus · Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:33 am

Scrambles and acyon are the two I want to lynch.

Titus · Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:29 am

In post 1055, Riddleton wrote:I'm happy with a CKD or Amy lynch at this stage. I need to reread them both at some stage while I will catch up. I might change my vote if necessary

Stahp. Both are likely town.

Titus · Post Post #1082 (isolation #25) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:38 am

^^^ Nice chainsaw OMGUS discredit. I have done plenty. You should poke your buddy to respond to my allegation if you have daychat.

Titus · Post Post #1088 (isolation #26) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:24 am

@Scrambles, no response to me calling you a liar?

Why yhe changes inreads? Particularly acryon?

Titus · Post Post #1091 (isolation #27) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:26 am

@Scrambles, How about explaining you only have one game finished and have those be true?

The reads that shifted between your last wall. Why?

Titus · Post Post #1092 (isolation #28) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:27 am

In post 1048, Titus wrote:
In post 348, scrambles wrote:Hos curious
I definitely did not say anything about chaos being scum. You are putting words in my mouth and trying to shame me into voting him.
in my experience, scum like to ramp townies up til the edge and then bus other townies to make for easy combos.

Instead of playing into that game, im voting for my scum read.
lastly, it is disbanding. I can see people starting to focus on other reasonably suspicious people pike skelda. I dont think reasonably suspicious people are ever good lunches. Both chaos and skelda do the reasonably suspicious profile. Imo those are bad lynches.

In post 432, scrambles wrote:Lol this is one of my favorite games in a while

These two posts strongly imply you have played more than one game that just ended Tuesday. I do not like being lied to.

Explain how these are consistent.

Titus · Post Post #1114 (isolation #29) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:28 am

@Scrambles, I come with two modes. Serious and more serious.

@Acryon, I gave specifics. Scrambles is lying about being a noob and Channel is scumhunting despite his (mistaken) belief he has caught Amy scum. The votes reflect Amy is town.

You and scrambles doing the circle jerk defense isn't looking too good.

Limited activity due to work

Titus · Post Post #1118 (isolation #30) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:30 am

@Green, when is the last time you've seen a townie shrug off being called a liar?

Titus · Post Post #1119 (isolation #31) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:32 am

In post 1117, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1107, Riddleton wrote:Acryon, your case against Titus isn't valid. It's just complaints you have against his playstyle (ie. VCA)

In post 1115, Riddleton wrote:The only qualm I have with AFF is I
still
don't believe she's a newbie.

Both of these posts are solid.

The belief may be solid on AFF not being a noob. But usually those players slip up like scrambles.

I just ICed a game on another site where ppl did not believe it was the guy's first game.Classically educated people tend to sound less new than they are.

Titus · Post Post #1134 (isolation #32) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:47 am

In post 1129, scrambles wrote:
In post 1115, Riddleton wrote:The only qualm I have with AFF is I
still
don't believe she's a newbie.

She's not. I believe she said so previously.

You may have but I have yet to see your evidence AFF is not new.

Meanwhile, I posted two posts that strongly imply you are not new. Plus our discussion of your homesite implies you are not new.

Titus · Post Post #1136 (isolation #33) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:48 am

How would you even have a read on a player's newness if you are a newbie?

Titus · Post Post #1146 (isolation #34) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:59 am

In post 1137, scrambles wrote:
In post 1134, Titus wrote:
In post 1129, scrambles wrote:
In post 1115, Riddleton wrote:The only qualm I have with AFF is I
still
don't believe she's a newbie.

She's not. I believe she said so previously.

You may have but I have yet to see your evidence AFF is not new.

Meanwhile, I posted two posts that strongly imply you are not new. Plus our discussion of your homesite implies you are not new.

Where did I saay I was new.
Please Titus, enlighten me on your inability to read posts.

You said you had one completed game and it wrapped on Tuesday.

Titus · Post Post #1149 (isolation #35) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:00 am

God, I love nailing the scumteam when I sub in.

Titus · Post Post #1157 (isolation #36) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:10 am

Forgot about that Riddleton. I was looking through his ISO that pinged me too. I already did respond but yeah I can go back.

Titus · Post Post #1162 (isolation #37) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:13 am

In post 232, scrambles wrote:Hello everyone. This is my second game. So excited!
Catching up now.

In post 1023, scrambles wrote:
In post 962, Titus wrote:Scarmbles, random question. Can you link me to all finished games you have and include the proximate timeframe.

I actually have no finished games on mafiascum.
I just finished one on a different site and im currently modding a game.

In post 1040, scrambles wrote:
In post 1038, Titus wrote:
In post 1031, scrambles wrote:I have massive arguments with players all the time. On my other site, im kinda known for it, and a lot of people call it detrimental.
however, normally in an argument like this I would say amy is town. Scum just dont argue this much or with such fervor.

Remind me to go to your home site and show them how to play scum.

I would love do you to join us sometime.
also my game ended on Tuesday.

There you go.

You say things like "in my experience" and have reads on whether or not players are new and then this shit.

Titus · Post Post #1167 (isolation #38) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:21 am

@scrambles, I have like five hydras...which one?

@acryon, ignoring my analysis does not make it go away.

Titus · Post Post #1199 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:49 am

Wow. Most of my townreads in this game haven't bern naked at all.

Y'all should realize acryonis very defensive for a guy with zero votes.

Titus · Post Post #1216 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:02 am

In post 1208, acryon wrote:
In post 1205, Green Crayons wrote:Most people don't go out of their way to make a big spiel about why they are town reading another player. That's one of the problems I had with Riddle's case against CDK: Riddle was comparing CDK's in-depth scum cases with CDK's less-in-depth town reads. Apples and oranges.

For a minimalist playstile like Titus has, it's not uncommon to see "<other player> is town" and not much else. So what? Who cares? If that other player flips scum, then it becomes relevant as to why Titus was reading that other player as town. If Titus later decides that that other player is scum, then it becomes relevant as to why Titus was previously reading that other player as town and why the switch. Until either of those events happen, though, a naked town call is null.

But it wasn't just her town-reads. She wasn't providing anything for her scum-reads either. It's just that her town-reads were
so
prevalent and never had even a single reason behind them.

I have been providing them.

Look at my iso. You can literally read a chain of thought. But hey keep selling the useless discredit.

Titus · Post Post #1259 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:54 pm

Alright scrambles, just how experienced are you? I need to know this in order to know how to exactly read you. What is the name of your homesite?

Titus · Post Post #1264 (isolation #42) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:20 am

CDB scumhunting in his spot was why he isconftown to me. Yhat post alone looks like I say the opposite. Sorry for the confudion Farside.

Titus · Post Post #1266 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:44 am

In post 1263, acryon wrote:
In post 1262, farside22 wrote:

@Acryon can you please explain why you went from not seeing titus scummy to calling him out today? Yes I saw post 1099, just wondering why you called it out today and saw nothing wrong day 2.

Sure thing. At the point that day 2 ended, Titus only had 8 posts, so it wouldn't make any sense to have a problem with her posting at that point, but she has posted 30+ times since then. Once she started posting more day 3 is when I recognized what I did as a pattern.

You mean a pattern of hunting you and scrambles? Your post deliberately leaves out what this pattern is making it vague and worthless. It also encourages the reader to fill ina hypothetical pattern and you could agree to anything.

Titus · Post Post #1296 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:41 pm

Scrambles and acryon are still scum.

Titus · Post Post #1307 (isolation #45) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:22 am

Acryon, walling tends to turn people off. Your attacking on me began after I called scrambles on his experience obfuscation. You both have just repeated the same questions over and over, even after I'm done answering them. I may find walling uneffective but I rarely naked vote. I'm relatively confident you both are scum.

@Channel, join us on scrambles. We can do Acryon tomorrow. We cannot lynch both scum in a single day.

Titus · Post Post #1334 (isolation #46) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:39 pm

In post 1333, Nashville Dreams wrote:@Riddleton, can you just lynch Scrambles and let us argue over CKB/acryon tomorrow?

That was me. Sorry for hydra leak.

Titus · Post Post #1365 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:52 am

While I am scumreading Scrambles, I'm behind on things I wanted to get done and I haven't been posting as much. If he hasn't come back by the time I'm done with a VCA here, then hold it against him.

Titus · Post Post #1411 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:25 am

In post 1406, Kalimar wrote:Hi.

Hey Kalimar, you replaced into a town slot. The scumteam is scrambles and acyron. Help us lynch please

Titus · Post Post #1467 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:14 am

@Kalimar, time since registration is just a number. I had a year on my belt. You're making things too complicated. Sometimes the most experienced player can be just getting in the way.

Scrambles play has been all about obfuscation rather than clarity. I call out Scrambles. Acyron starts chainsawing on his behalf while being waffley about his read on Scrambles. Acryon telegraphed an about face from the end of the day yesterday to today.

GG. Scum caught.

Titus · Post Post #1470 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:18 am

In post 1467, Titus wrote:@Kalimar, time since registration is just a number. I had a year on my belt. You're making things too complicated. Sometimes the most experienced player can be just getting in the way.

Scrambles play has been all about obfuscation rather than clarity. I call out Scrambles. Acyron starts chainsawing on his behalf while being waffley about his read on Scrambles. Acryon telegraphed an about face from the end of the day yesterday to today.

GG. Scum caught.

For clarity Acryon's about face was on me not Scrambles.

Titus · Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:14 am

In post 1473, acryon wrote:
In post 1470, Titus wrote:
In post 1467, Titus wrote:@Kalimar, time since registration is just a number. I had a year on my belt. You're making things too complicated. Sometimes the most experienced player can be just getting in the way.

Scrambles play has been all about obfuscation rather than clarity. I call out Scrambles. Acyron starts chainsawing on his behalf while being waffley about his read on Scrambles. Acryon telegraphed an about face from the end of the day yesterday to today.

GG. Scum caught.

For clarity Acryon's about face was on me not Scrambles.

I don't know what game some of you are playing. When did this happen?

The end of yesterday, you stated that you didn't have much of a problem with the Beli hammer. Today, you gradually started shifting over towards your vote. You were even called on this and discussed it. Now, you've forgot? Generally, town players remember when players attack them and for what.

Titus · Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:15 am

In post 1517, acryon wrote:
In post 1514, scrambles wrote:acryon why are you defending me.

Because I don't think you're scum, and I think the case isn't very good.

Why don't you make a towncase on your buddy?

Titus · Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:54 am

CDB, if you are concerned about utility, I am only voting acyron or scrambles sooooo

Titus · Post Post #1576 (isolation #54) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:06 am

Acryon, your discredit train is not in full working order I see. In order to effectively discredit me, you need to put out more than I suck. You know, meat on the bones. I don't feel the need to write 200 words to say the same thing.

My trajectory has been clear. Dual wagons for VCA. Do VCA. Stick with results of VCA. Note that scumget bitchy and say I suck while not saying why. Repeat.

Crayons, scrambles is wifoming. If he was scum, he cannot perform the action sll scum do.

Titus · Post Post #1597 (isolation #55) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:42 am

I forgot to fucking post my VCA. LOL! Excuse me for being a dumb ass there.

My vote is on scrambles for WiFOM, piss poor voting/interactions and OMGUS. Scrambles hasn't voted or pushed anyone since it's become apparent I am not going to be the lynch today.

1.02 scrambles wagoned alongside farside who looks pretty obviously town from his play and reaction to Beli's lynch and the start of today. Beli attacked Farside pretty hard for his vote on Scramble's current slot (I know I've mentioned at least this before).
1.03 Beli and Chaoslord (now CDB) are wagoned. Both scrambles and acryon's slots are on the counterwagon to known scum. CDB being Beli's counterwagon is also less likely to be scum.
1.04 The wagon on Beli has essential degraded. AFF has been parked on Beli since the start. That eliminates AFF as likely scum in my book separate from her posting. Farside22's wagon also has CDB and Beli on it. Given scum tend not to quick vote to start a counterwagon (unless it's a scumwagon they are countering), this is strong evidence that CDB is town.

Skip a few to end of D 1 wagons
1.09 This is the best proscrambles thing in 1.09 he's third on the wagon for Beli, but that's also a prime scum bus slot. Scrambles hadn't been voting since unvoting in VC 1.07. This gives him greater flexibility to bus if necessary. Acryon is still on TobyLoby by himself.
1.10 Scrambles and Acryon take the same positions.
1.11 Scrambles and Acryon are still on the same spots.
1.12 Acryon jumps on Beli. This vote screams BUS. None of the town were making a decision and Acryon didn't want to get caught being the tipping point to where he caused the townie to get lynched.
1.13 CDB votes Skelda, thus giving that wagon momentum. Acryon immediately moves over. Thus forcing a Skelda lynch.

Day 2

If Scrambles was so confident, Beli was scum, we would expect him to open with a vote on Beli. He does not. AFF immediately votes Beli within the opening VCA. Rather, the scumteam decided to frontload the bus after it was obvious. Farside, given her tunnelling of CDB would be reliable to attempt to persuade onto a derp wagon. So that's precisely what they did. Vote, lurk, pray for the other wagon to take off.

Day 3

Day 3 focuses on CDB and AFF I've been no so subtly shooting these wagons down due to my day 1 analysis (which I thought I had posted but hadn't whoops). They've been obvious town based on their play and their voting.

Titus · Post Post #1598 (isolation #56) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:43 am

In post 1592, Green Crayons wrote:When people say they're doing a VCA, they quote which votecounts they are looking at in particular (as bandwagons grow and diminish), and usually plug in red and green coloring for flipped players to help us layfolk understand. They then state their conclusions deriving from such votecounts, which usually consists of "because X did Y on Z bandwagon, in the context of everything else, possibly scum."

Also, because Titus has claimed that VCA is her "thing," I would expect her to actually do a full fledged VCA, and not simply allude to the fact that has done some VCA.

VOTE: CDB

CDB's case on acryon didn't convince me. farside's case on acryon didn't convince me. I don't have particularly solid town feelings about acryon, but he's far from looking like a good lynch at this point.

Stop, I just posted my notes on the VCA that I've had. CDB is a mistake wagon.

Titus · Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:16 pm

In post 1602, scrambles wrote:1.04 The wagon on Beli has essential degraded. AFF has been parked on Beli since the start. That eliminates AFF as likely scum in my book separate from her posting. Farside22's wagon also has CDB and Beli on it. Given scum tend not to quick vote to start a counterwagon (unless it's a scumwagon they are countering), this is strong evidence that CDB is town.

Aside from her posting? You mean like, how you went after her and called her possible scum?
"Day 3 focuses on CDB and AFF I've been no so subtly shooting these wagons down "
And when I quoted you in 1106 and asked you if your post about amy was serious you said you had two modes: serious and deadly serious or something asinine like that...

What about my lying about experience? Is that suddenly not part of your reasoning?
"My vote is on scrambles for WiFOM, piss poor voting/interactions and OMGUS."

By WIFOM, you mean the wifom you accused me of in the very last post you made before this one?
Or the OMGUS that Riddle (not you) accused me of only a couple pages ago?
Or the piss poor voting interactions that you never suspected me of?

Those were the reasons you voted for me? Ah, ok makes perfect sense now.

vote Titus

I was calling Acryon probably scum. Not Amy. Stretch more.
By wifom and obfuscation I mean the shit dripping in your posts about the newness that was vauge as shit, the wifom about what scum would do while directly PR hunting.
By OMGUS, I mean every vote you've practically placed but for your bus on Belo.
By voting interactions, I mean the cases made by others, that I agree with and the VCA I have done.

gtg for now

Titus · Post Post #1656 (isolation #58) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:22 am

VOTE: Acryon

Why are you so sure?

Titus · Post Post #1657 (isolation #59) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:23 am

That's at Riddleton regarding the last page.

Titus · Post Post #1660 (isolation #60) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:01 am

Green Crayons agree with all but Acryon and Farside. Acryon's shift on me as I started voting scrambles reflects more psnicked scum. Realize no town got on my wagon but they both pushed it heavily. This sends me back to Inuyasha mafia. I was the Birds of Prey hydra. We had all the scum on Day 5. They rapid fire voted us and parked. Same situation here.

As for Farside, Beli attacked them had day 1 for going after the scrambles slot.

Titus · Post Post #1661 (isolation #61) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:03 am

Riddleton is likely town...solid is a little strong but do not want them dead today.

Titus · Post Post #1663 (isolation #62) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:17 am

In post 1662, Riddleton wrote:
In post 1652, Green Crayons wrote:
@Riddle:
what's the difference between CKD defending Beli-scum and acryon defending scrambles-scum?

Mainly gut, but Acryon's defense reads as more sincere newbie to me. Although he was wrong, I could understand his POV with regards to the fact he could just be an 'accidental liar'. CKD's defense reads as more desperate to me.

Very buzzwordy. Support needed.

Titus · Post Post #1667 (isolation #63) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:43 am

In post 1664, Riddleton wrote:
In post 1643, Baezu wrote:

Vote Count 3.12Titus: (2) acryon,
scrambles

ChannelDelibird: (2) Curiouskarmadog , Amy Farrah Fowler

scrambles
: (6) Titus, Riddleton, ChannelDelibird, Green Crayons, Farside22,
Kalimar

I just don't buy the fact that here, the last two scum (hypothetically acryon & scrambles) pile on to the Titus wagon for seemingly arbituary reasons about her playstyle. Most newbie scum like to distance away from each other due to feeling a little more "self-conscious" about their playstyle. I can't understand how Acryon-scum and Scrambles-scum would both vote Titus as they have in this VC.

Scrambles and acryon are not newbies.

Titus · Post Post #1668 (isolation #64) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:44 am

In post 1666, acryon wrote:
In post 1660, Titus wrote:Green Crayons agree with all but Acryon and Farside. Acryon's shift on me as I started voting scrambles reflects more psnicked scum. Realize no town got on my wagon but they both pushed it heavily. This sends me back to Inuyasha mafia. I was the Birds of Prey hydra. We had all the scum on Day 5. They rapid fire voted us and parked. Same situation here.

To be fair, I first commented on you doing things that were stupid before you voted scrambles. And I didn't switch to you directly after your vote on scrambles... You continued to post naked reads left and right, and eventually I recognized this pattern. You can keep trying to associate my case on you with the fact that you voted scrambles to try and make my case look bad, but it isn't going to work.[/quote]

The naked reads bullshit was already torn to shreds.

Titus · Post Post #1672 (isolation #65) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:53 am

Because you and scrambles were desperate scum.

Titus · Post Post #1673 (isolation #66) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:54 am

In post 1671, Riddleton wrote:Acryon, enough with the Titus wagon. He's town.

He's got one or two MLs in him at best. Tunnelling me is the only way to make a third.

Titus · Post Post #1678 (isolation #67) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:59 am

Well. I could supplement with your delayed OMGUS on Toby day 1.

Titus · Post Post #1680 (isolation #68) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:00 am

Or acryon you could try to prove me wrong. You won't bc you cannot prove something untrue.

Titus · Post Post #1681 (isolation #69) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:01 am

In post 1679, acryon wrote:
In post 1678, Titus wrote:Well. I could supplement with your delayed OMGUS on Toby day 1.

Because that's a brilliant piece of information...

And your first impulse is sarcastic discredit. This is why you are scum.

Titus · Post Post #1684 (isolation #70) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:06 am

Yes. You really do. You refused to explain why scrambles is town bc my case sucked. He was not town. People are townreading you bc too close/scummy to br scum. VCA is a big neon sign you are scum here. Discrediting me is likely to get you nowhere.

If I am wrong, make a good case on yhe real scum.

Titus · Post Post #1685 (isolation #71) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:07 am

In post 1683, acryon wrote:I don't care that anyone thinks my reasons for disliking the case on scrambles were bad. While I disagree, I can obviously understand that, given his flip. I also don't particularly care that you think I am scum other than the fact that it takes away from us actually being able to find the last scum.

Wrong. Having an opinion you are scum doesn't detract from you scumhunting. Your scum PM does.

Titus · Post Post #1688 (isolation #72) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:13 am

Wow.. that's obviously ignoring the chainsaw I talked about and the analysis I have already done.

If you want me to think you are town, you have to scumhunt. No amount of selective discrediting is going to get you there.

CDB and I are both town. So is farside. CKD might be scum but that's a hell of a stretch. You are welcome to try.

Titus · Post Post #1756 (isolation #73) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:38 am

Work taking longer than expected. VCA notes at home. Will type tonight.

Acryon still scum.

Titus · Post Post #1837 (isolation #74) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:28 am

#1820 two final scums...

We lynching Acryon yet?

@GC what posts in 1824 do you want my thoughts on?

Titus · Post Post #1839 (isolation #75) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:36 am

Titus makes point on why Acryon or Scrambles is scum.

Acryon discredits.

Repeat until Titus lynches you both.

I can go with this plan.

Titus · Post Post #1842 (isolation #76) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:41 am

So... why hasn't he stopped a kill?

Acryon, not claiming it's a slip but an act of self-preservation.

Titus · Post Post #1843 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:42 am

Doctor plus Jailkeep really? OP circle. Just no.

Titus · Post Post #1845 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:46 am

Funny, most would consider that I would be likely to be attacked if town given I essentially forced through a scrambles lynch. Yet you didn't consider scum attacking me. Sounds like you just made this up.

Titus · Post Post #1847 (isolation #79) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:50 am

That is exactly what I would say to you.

You called my play yesterday was bad when it lead to lynching scum. After scrambles flip, we should have seen a reread in light of that. You kept on bc your reads are about lynchability.

You should have pucked CKD over Channel though.

Titus · Post Post #1851 (isolation #80) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:00 am

Acryon how was getting dead scum dead bad play?

CDB yeah....forgot it was... I would hope the doctor CCs so we can end this shit tiday.

Titus · Post Post #1856 (isolation #81) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:03 am

They should CC. It is an open setup. Only one scum left. A CC is autowin for town. So just do it already.

Titus · Post Post #1858 (isolation #82) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:07 am

I am waiting til everyone refuses to CC.

Acryon is scum's best friend.

Titus · Post Post #1861 (isolation #83) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:13 am

In post 1860, ChannelDelibird wrote:Look, I was in that position yesterday. I empathise with you that acryon is hard to believe as town. But it is downright anti-town for you to continue to push acryon as scum in this situation. If he has been a gigantic idiot, then
we will find out soon enough
, but the pro-town thing to do is to assume that he is telling the truth and work towards finding the real scum.

Protown is to lynch scum. Acryon is scum. I will see that CC. If not then I will move.

Titus · Post Post #1862 (isolation #84) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:13 am

In post 1859, acryon wrote:
In post 1858, Titus wrote:I am waiting til everyone refuses to CC.

Acryon is scum's best friend.

*Sigh* You really think I am scum that claimed doc with the hope that the one person who does happen to be doc would never show up again for the rest of the game (including replacements) so I could never be CC'd?

You would recant tomorrow after I am dead.

Titus · Post Post #1864 (isolation #85) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:20 am

I have pulled off worse. Until everyone says not the doctor my vote stays. The doctor claim is the only thing saving you atm.

There's only two others who can be scum if you are town but I will play that close to the vest ATM so scum might kill one.

Titus · Post Post #1865 (isolation #86) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:25 am

Here's how...

I am sorry for my bullshit doctor claim. Titus was so wrong so I lied to live. Do I regret it? Sure. Blah blah blah.

Titus · Post Post #1867 (isolation #87) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:51 am

I have lived while doing worse. Until everyone says not doc my vote stays.

Titus · Post Post #1879 (isolation #88) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:09 am

VOTE: CKD

Both wagons suck. Acryon syart playong for town please.

Titus · Post Post #1881 (isolation #89) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:44 am

It's a hell of a stretch you are doctor. Rolling with that though, CKD and GC are the only possibles. All others are VCA cleared.

Titus · Post Post #1883 (isolation #90) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:54 am

He's the least town looking of the two. Hunting scum has been less than perfect. Clearing town it has not faulted me.

Titus · Post Post #1884 (isolation #91) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:55 am

Revolution, Harry Potter, InuYasha...all my conftowns were town. Reading votes is easy for me. Reading play is hard.

Titus · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:03 am

It did. I highlighted how Channel is the cw of choice. AF hard bussed scrambles. Farside and Beli's fight over Farside voting scrambles slot was not likely scum theatre.

You should try reading before discrediting.

Titus · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:04 am

AF hardbussed scrambles is remote I mean.

Titus · Post Post #1912 (isolation #94) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:38 pm

Acryon, my reads need little adjusting. Scum and townbears come up the same in VCS.

Titus · Post Post #1916 (isolation #95) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:59 am

I did do a complete VCA. Just because you refuse to read doesn't make it incomplete.

Titus · Post Post #1917 (isolation #96) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:01 am

In post 1643, Baezu wrote:

Vote Count 3.12Titus: (2) acryon, scrambles
ChannelDelibird: (2) Curiouskarmadog , Amy Farrah Fowler

(LYNCH!)
scrambles: (6) Titus, Riddleton, ChannelDelibird, Green Crayons, Farside22, Kalimar

Not Voting:

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-18 20:47:00)

Mod Notes:
None

[/area]

Just in case...look at CKD trying to counterwagon scrambles.

Titus · Post Post #1918 (isolation #97) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:05 am

In post 1047, Titus wrote:
In post 1046, ChannelDelibird wrote:UNVOTE: Amy

Nonetheless, going to rethink. I want people to propose alternatives; even if I'm right, Belisarius had two buddies.

Conftown. Amy is town too most likely.

In post 1597, Titus wrote:I forgot to fucking post my VCA. LOL! Excuse me for being a dumb ass there.

My vote is on scrambles for WiFOM, piss poor voting/interactions and OMGUS. Scrambles hasn't voted or pushed anyone since it's become apparent I am not going to be the lynch today.

1.02 scrambles wagoned alongside farside who looks pretty obviously town from his play and reaction to Beli's lynch and the start of today.
Beli attacked Farside pretty hard for his vote on Scramble's current slot (I know I've mentioned at least this before).

1.03
Beli and Chaoslord (now CDB) are wagoned.
Both scrambles and acryon's slots are on the counterwagon to known scum. CDB being Beli's counterwagon is also less likely to be scum.
1.04 The wagon on Beli has essential degraded. AFF has been parked on Beli since the start. That eliminates AFF as likely scum in my book separate from her posting. Farside22's wagon also has CDB and Beli on it. Given scum tend not to quick vote to start a counterwagon (unless it's a scumwagon they are countering), this is strong evidence that CDB is town.

Skip a few to end of D 1 wagons
1.09 This is the best proscrambles thing in 1.09 he's third on the wagon for Beli, but that's also a prime scum bus slot. Scrambles hadn't been voting since unvoting in VC 1.07. This gives him greater flexibility to bus if necessary. Acryon is still on TobyLoby by himself.
1.10 Scrambles and Acryon take the same positions.
1.11 Scrambles and Acryon are still on the same spots.
1.12 Acryon jumps on Beli. This vote screams BUS. None of the town were making a decision and Acryon didn't want to get caught being the tipping point to where he caused the townie to get lynched.
1.13 CDB votes Skelda, thus giving that wagon momentum. Acryon immediately moves over. Thus forcing a Skelda lynch.

Day 2

If Scrambles was so confident, Beli was scum, we would expect him to open with a vote on Beli. He does not. AFF immediately votes Beli within the opening VCA. Rather, the scumteam decided to frontload the bus after it was obvious. Farside, given her tunnelling of CDB would be reliable to attempt to persuade onto a derp wagon. So that's precisely what they did. Vote, lurk, pray for the other wagon to take off.

Day 3

Day 3 focuses on CDB and AFF I've been no so subtly shooting these wagons down due to my day 1 analysis (which I thought I had posted but hadn't whoops). They've been obvious town based on their play and their voting.

There.

Riddleton is likely town bc yesterday.

That leaves GC and CKD.

Titus · Post Post #1919 (isolation #98) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:07 am

If you want me to, I can retype that and waste my time.

Titus · Post Post #1921 (isolation #99) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:24 am

Acryon my lynchpins are conftowns and work outwards. I put it in chronological order for understanding. I bolded the parts that make people conftown.

Farside- Fight with Beli over Scrambles vote
AFF - Tunnel on Beli
CDB - Always the counterwagon.
Riddleton - Strong lean town based on yesterday's vote pattern.

My history with VCA is my conftowns are not wrong. Occassionally I document the townbeard as scum though.

Harry Potter Large Theme is the best example.

Malakittens tunnelled scum. Last scum tried to takecredit. My analysis had two scums because one guy went eight days and never voted scum. He was the townbeard.

Titus · Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:31 am

Dryfit could have been kilked because the scumteam PR hunted him. Beli casting doubt on CDB is good for him bc he needed the towncred. NK analysis is prone to seeing what you want to see.

Titus · Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:40 am

The last two scum do not hard defend each other.

Stop. Use logic.

You are trying to force a square peg into a round hole rather than voting those who can be scum.

Titus · Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:56 am

That post us the first decent bit of analysis you have done in awhile. I admit it is possible CKD is another townbeard. I just find it less likely.

Titus · Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:29 am

I don't need angles or anything sinister like that.

AFF CDB Farside and Acryon (only bc no cc).

Scum must be in you GC or Riddleton. Riddleton and GC are unlikely due to play.

Titus · Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:20 pm

Riddleton, why the CKD wagon?

Titus · Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:26 am

I want to know Riddleton's reasoning. Given where group suspicions lie scum benefit from sheeping me if I am wrong.

Titus · Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:07 am

In post 1965, curiouskarmadog wrote:well luckily today you got in the "yeah he might be town" post.

so then the plan is tomorrow, to hang AFF?

Never hang AFF Farside or CDB unless those are the only choices.

Titus · Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:11 am

VLA 5th through 10th

Titus · Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:04 am

In post 1992, acryon wrote:GC and CKD would both be
terrible
lynches. I would be ok with CDB, Titus, or possibly Farside as a very last resort.

You have this game backwards. Those two plus Riddleton are the only acceptable lynches

Titus · Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:10 am

Look at Harry Potter (Large Theme), Revolution Mafia, InuYasha Mafia, a confirmed clear of mine has never been wrong on VCA.

Farside scumreaders - Farside votes scrambles scum early and has a long fight with Beli over it? Do all three scum have such a protracted fight early? No. They do not.

CDB - He countered scumwagons twice. He ain't scum.

Titus · Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:33 am

@Riddleton bc you are not clear.

@acryon, nope it is pretty universal. Players like Gammagooey and the others are not one dimensional. You are going to just discredit Titus mode. Stahp it.

Titus · Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:31 am

Acryon NL strategically should be used at mylo. Not before. Force scums to give info.

Titus · Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:34 am

In post 1998, acryon wrote:I hope I'm not the only one uncomfortable with putting the weight of this game on the VCA of one person, especially a person who kept her vote on a confirmed town long after it was clear that no scum would ever fake-claim in that spot. VCA is great, but even at its greatest, it is far from infallible, and for you to think otherwise is foolish.

Waaaaah...discredit.

I have always said my clears are infalliable. For instance, Revolution. Had 2 scum in 3 players...picked the townie as scum. It had happened. My conf clears are never wrong. Once the guy I thought was scum got out of his own way, we swept flawlessly.

Titus · Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:42 am

We have an acceptable lynch in CKD as the largest wagon.

Titus · Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:02 pm

Amy is obvious town.

GC your analysis completely ignored riddleton.

Titus · Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:33 am

GC, I am not lynching farside either. I doubt Day 1 was all scum bickering over lynching themselves.

I will only vote GC Riddleton or CKD. Now if you had listened to me, we would have a conftown alive.

Titus · Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:34 am

In post 2102, Riddleton wrote:The last thing I want is Riddle-GC-CKD LyLo.

Agreed as that would mean after the big deal my vca was and my conftowns are never wrong, I was ignored again today.

Titus · Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:36 am

VOTE: Green Crayons

Titus · Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:03 am

VOTE: Riddleton

Don't really feel like lynching CKD anymore.

Titus · Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:04 am

CKD, sheep me. We can be inthread masons.

Titus · Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:10 am

In post 2163, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 2161, Titus wrote:VOTE: Riddleton

Don't really feel like lynching CKD anymore.

ONLY SCUM WANTS TO KEEP ME ALIVE UNTIL LYLO....

just an fyi.

Nah. One of GC or Riddleton is the scum. I may need both to find which one.

Titus · Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:11 am

In post 2166, Riddleton wrote:Don't be silly Titus, you should use your vote on scum, just saying.

Why do you suspect me?

Every other post is buddying me.

Titus · Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:36 pm

Farside, you ignored it. It cleared Amy. It clears you. It clears CDB.

My stance flip is exactly why I said. Riddleton was not clear and is buddying the fuck out of me.

Titus · Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:38 pm

In post 1597, Titus wrote:I forgot to fucking post my VCA. LOL! Excuse me for being a dumb ass there.

My vote is on scrambles for WiFOM, piss poor voting/interactions and OMGUS. Scrambles hasn't voted or pushed anyone since it's become apparent I am not going to be the lynch today.

1.02 scrambles wagoned alongside farside who looks pretty obviously town from his play and reaction to Beli's lynch and the start of today. Beli attacked Farside pretty hard for his vote on Scramble's current slot (I know I've mentioned at least this before).
1.03 Beli and Chaoslord (now CDB) are wagoned. Both scrambles and acryon's slots are on the counterwagon to known scum. CDB being Beli's counterwagon is also less likely to be scum.
1.04 The wagon on Beli has essential degraded. AFF has been parked on Beli since the start. That eliminates AFF as likely scum in my book separate from her posting. Farside22's wagon also has CDB and Beli on it. Given scum tend not to quick vote to start a counterwagon (unless it's a scumwagon they are countering), this is strong evidence that CDB is town.

Skip a few to end of D 1 wagons
1.09 This is the best proscrambles thing in 1.09 he's third on the wagon for Beli, but that's also a prime scum bus slot. Scrambles hadn't been voting since unvoting in VC 1.07. This gives him greater flexibility to bus if necessary. Acryon is still on TobyLoby by himself.
1.10 Scrambles and Acryon take the same positions.
1.11 Scrambles and Acryon are still on the same spots.
1.12 Acryon jumps on Beli. This vote screams BUS. None of the town were making a decision and Acryon didn't want to get caught being the tipping point to where he caused the townie to get lynched.
1.13 CDB votes Skelda, thus giving that wagon momentum. Acryon immediately moves over. Thus forcing a Skelda lynch.

Day 2

If Scrambles was so confident, Beli was scum, we would expect him to open with a vote on Beli. He does not. AFF immediately votes Beli within the opening VCA. Rather, the scumteam decided to frontload the bus after it was obvious. Farside, given her tunnelling of CDB would be reliable to attempt to persuade onto a derp wagon. So that's precisely what they did. Vote, lurk, pray for the other wagon to take off.

Day 3

Day 3 focuses on CDB and AFF I've been no so subtly shooting these wagons down due to my day 1 analysis (which I thought I had posted but hadn't whoops). They've been obvious town based on their play and their voting.

In post 1918, Titus wrote:
In post 1047, Titus wrote:
In post 1046, ChannelDelibird wrote:UNVOTE: Amy

Nonetheless, going to rethink. I want people to propose alternatives; even if I'm right, Belisarius had two buddies.

Conftown. Amy is town too most likely.

In post 1597, Titus wrote:I forgot to fucking post my VCA. LOL! Excuse me for being a dumb ass there.

My vote is on scrambles for WiFOM, piss poor voting/interactions and OMGUS. Scrambles hasn't voted or pushed anyone since it's become apparent I am not going to be the lynch today.

1.02 scrambles wagoned alongside farside who looks pretty obviously town from his play and reaction to Beli's lynch and the start of today.
Beli attacked Farside pretty hard for his vote on Scramble's current slot (I know I've mentioned at least this before).

1.03
Beli and Chaoslord (now CDB) are wagoned.
Both scrambles and acryon's slots are on the counterwagon to known scum. CDB being Beli's counterwagon is also less likely to be scum.
1.04 The wagon on Beli has essential degraded. AFF has been parked on Beli since the start. That eliminates AFF as likely scum in my book separate from her posting. Farside22's wagon also has CDB and Beli on it. Given scum tend not to quick vote to start a counterwagon (unless it's a scumwagon they are countering), this is strong evidence that CDB is town.

Skip a few to end of D 1 wagons
1.09 This is the best proscrambles thing in 1.09 he's third on the wagon for Beli, but that's also a prime scum bus slot. Scrambles hadn't been voting since unvoting in VC 1.07. This gives him greater flexibility to bus if necessary. Acryon is still on TobyLoby by himself.
1.10 Scrambles and Acryon take the same positions.
1.11 Scrambles and Acryon are still on the same spots.
1.12 Acryon jumps on Beli. This vote screams BUS. None of the town were making a decision and Acryon didn't want to get caught being the tipping point to where he caused the townie to get lynched.
1.13 CDB votes Skelda, thus giving that wagon momentum. Acryon immediately moves over. Thus forcing a Skelda lynch.

Day 2

If Scrambles was so confident, Beli was scum, we would expect him to open with a vote on Beli. He does not. AFF immediately votes Beli within the opening VCA. Rather, the scumteam decided to frontload the bus after it was obvious. Farside, given her tunnelling of CDB would be reliable to attempt to persuade onto a derp wagon. So that's precisely what they did. Vote, lurk, pray for the other wagon to take off.

Day 3

Day 3 focuses on CDB and AFF I've been no so subtly shooting these wagons down due to my day 1 analysis (which I thought I had posted but hadn't whoops). They've been obvious town based on their play and their voting.

There.

Riddleton is likely town bc yesterday.

That leaves GC and CKD.

In post 1921, Titus wrote:Acryon my lynchpins are conftowns and work outwards. I put it in chronological order for understanding. I bolded the parts that make people conftown.

Farside- Fight with Beli over Scrambles vote
AFF - Tunnel on Beli
CDB - Always the counterwagon.
Riddleton - Strong lean town based on yesterday's vote pattern.

My history with VCA is my conftowns are not wrong. Occassionally I document the townbeard as scum though.

Harry Potter Large Theme is the best example.

Malakittens tunnelled scum. Last scum tried to takecredit. My analysis had two scums because one guy went eight days and never voted scum. He was the townbeard.

In post 1994, Titus wrote:Look at Harry Potter (Large Theme), Revolution Mafia, InuYasha Mafia, a confirmed clear of mine has never been wrong on VCA.

Farside scumreaders - Farside votes scrambles scum early and has a long fight with Beli over it? Do all three scum have such a protracted fight early? No. They do not.

CDB - He countered scumwagons twice. He ain't scum.

Refresher.

Titus · Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:13 pm

In post 2173, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 2137, Titus wrote:GC, I am not lynching farside either. I doubt Day 1 was all scum bickering over lynching themselves.

In post 2161, Titus wrote:VOTE: Riddleton

lol

Refusing to believe that scum would bicker between themselves on D1 as a distancing tactic, but all-in on believing that Riddle-scum bussed both of his scum buddies (4th on D2 Beli-wagon; 2nd on D3 scrambles-wagon).

That makes all sense in the world.

Also, I just ISOed you Titus. You went from repeatedly stating that Riddle was very likely town to saying that Riddle was one of two or three scum candidates without any actual explanation of the change in stance.

You act as if that is mutually exclusive. My townread has softened but my read on him because of his play.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:09 am

Can we get more Riddleton votes? Thank you.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:11 am

In post 2211, farside22 wrote:I feel like no one is even thinking of titus this game.
She didn't interact with anyone. Used a mysterious VCA for reasoning on scrambles and no riddle that makes no fucking sense.
Shit all she has to do is keep using the same fucking logic and people just turn a blind eye.

Am I just crazy?

*smack*

What do you call bullying through the scrambles lynch if not interacting?

Using the same logic is gamebreaking. It nets us you me and CDB as conftown in a 6 player game.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:39 am

In post 2221, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 2173, Green Crayons wrote:Also, I just ISOed you Titus. You went from repeatedly stating that Riddle was very likely town to saying that Riddle was one of two or three scum candidates without any actual explanation of the change in stance.

In post 2183, Green Crayons wrote:Also, Titus, although you didn't directly answer my question about why you shifted your position on Riddle, is it that process of elimination outweighs his play that you repeatedly recognized as fairly protown?

I did. Riddle's buddying of me eviscerated the townread.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:20 am

Lol. I did not say sheeping. I said buddying.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:23 am

In post 2160, Riddleton wrote:
In post 2154, curiouskarmadog wrote:oh shit...forgot about CDB.

CDB is town due to VCA reasons myself & Titus brought up.

-CDB is always a scum counter wagon, as said by Titus somewhere.
-It's my theory that both scum wouldn't hop on Beli, since they can easily explain their absense on the wagon as "Beli was being lolzy town".

In post 2214, Riddleton wrote:Farside:
Do you think Titus' slot would go and bus both her partners, Beli and Scrambles? I don't see how that is a plausible scum move, in my opinion.

In post 2167, Riddleton wrote:
In post 2163, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 2161, Titus wrote:VOTE: Riddleton

Don't really feel like lynching CKD anymore.

ONLY SCUM WANTS TO KEEP ME ALIVE UNTIL LYLO....

just an fyi.

It can't be Titus. I doubt scum would double-bus in a game with only 3 scum.

In post 2166, Riddleton wrote:Don't be silly Titus, you should use your vote on scum, just saying.

Why do you suspect me?

In post 2141, Riddleton wrote:
Titus
would rathr lynch CKD today.

In post 2134, Riddleton wrote:You think she is?

In post 2131, Riddleton wrote:I feel like I'm a stuck record, but we're not lynching Farside today. She's not a likely scum candidate. Most importantly, she's not active lurking or strategically V/LAing.

In post 2130, Riddleton wrote:I like the fact she makes natural-looking posts. They don't feel forced or meticulously constructed in any way. Although I don't agree with her conclusions, I can understand her thought process & logic. I also think her reaction to your case against her is town-like, too.

In post 2123, Riddleton wrote:Titus is probably town for the double bus.

In post 2224, Riddleton wrote:
In post 2215, farside22 wrote:
In post 2214, Riddleton wrote:Farside:
Do you think Titus' slot would go and bus both her partners, Beli and Scrambles? I don't see how that is a plausible scum move, in my opinion.

I've done it in the past.

Sure, I've done it too. The point here is 'plausible'. I think it's more likely for CKD to be scum rather than scum such as Titus double-bussing. We should consider the most likely options first.

This is what creeped me out.

I am the only player suspecting him and this over the top response feels wrong.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:59 am

Wow. Scum and townbeard in unison.

Anytime we try to vote anyone other than CKD. Riddleton defends them. When CKD flips town, Riddleton fakes a reset and just votes whoever is most suspicious to the group. It is so badly telegraphed.

He cannot push for GC lynch if scum bc he will know I will tunnel him.

GC is in the same scenario and defending Riddleton.

Just ugh.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:00 am

Riddleton's buddying is over the top. He merely dismisses and gets ppl to like him by calling them town when under little pressure or case.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:01 am

With Riddleton not willing to vote my conftowns and me not willing to, they are in zero danger of getting lynched. Yet Riddleton over defends.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:38 am

Why is Riddle town? All I see is buddying.

If you believe I am town, you believe farside and CDB are town.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:54 am

In post 2237, Riddleton wrote:
When CKD flips town, Riddleton fakes a reset and just votes whoever is most suspicious to the group. It is so badly telegraphed.

Are you implying I'll just quickly derpvote on LyLo? Really?

I am stating you will scumread whoever is the popular scum suspect.

We are lynching Riddleton or GC.

Game is broke.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:56 am

In post 2238, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 2234, Titus wrote:Why is Riddle town? All I see is buddying.

If you believe I am town, you believe farside and CDB are town.

Riddle has provided competent analysis, while also being a steady scrambles vote that would be an unnecessary bus.

If I believe that you are town, all I believe is that you are town. Not that you are correct on your town reads.

Your only basis for holding farside to be town is that you don't think Beli-scum would have attacked farside-scum for voting scrambles-scum on D1. I've explained repeatedly why I actually think that was a solid distinacing tactic by our three scum.

You have just said distancing. My vca has never been wrong on conftown. Farside is town.

Riddleton has not provided analysis. Saying xyz is town is not analysis. Buddying is not analysis.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:58 am

In post 2241, farside22 wrote:
In post 2235, Riddleton wrote:You should all vote CKD, trust me on this. For one, we're not leaving him to LyLo (easy mislynch) and for two, he's the most likely scum contender.

It's not worthwhile to think about who else you think is scum at this stage. Don't worry about it. Don't forget, if CKD flips town, 2 more people as well as CKD will die before LyLo so additional time spent quabbling about whether you think Farside, CDB etc is scum is wasted.

a) If you think CDB is scum, vote CKD
b) If you think GC is scum, vote CKD
c) If you think Farside is scum, vote CKD
d) If you think I am scum, vote CKD
e) If you think Titus is scum, vote CKD
f) If you think CKD is scum, vote CKD

I get where you are going with this. It goes against my whole grain to vote someone I don't scum read, unless it's deadline and a lynch needs to happen.

If you think someonr is scum, you vote scum not town.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:00 am

In post 2243, Riddleton wrote:
Let's theorize for a moment. We both know scum bus. How often do you see scum defend not just one but both buddies

Once, and it was a similar situation. An experienced player as scum gambiting the whole "oh god my reads suck" stance.

I will concede it's rare though, as you're right in that scum bus most of the time.

Defending both scum is a hallmark of scum Titus.

The vca is in and conclusive. CKD Riddleton and GC are only possible scum. We aren't touching anyone else.

We are not touching CKD because he has been bleeding town the past couple days.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:01 am

In post 2247, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 2242, Titus wrote:Riddleton has not provided analysis. Saying xyz is town is not analysis. Buddying is not analysis.

This is literally the case acryon made against you back on D3.

And his case was a lie. My VCA cleared them. And you lynched Amy anyway.

Titus · Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:15 am

Pretty sure I did not state QED as I do not know what that stands for.

Scum just do not engage in that type of behavior. I haven't seen it once. Therefore Farside is town. Beli did it without arguing Scrambles slot was town. If it was tri theatre, arguing town is more effective. Still it has never hapoened and it is implausible.

Stop trying to add suspects. It won't happen. I don't care if Farside tunnels my ass.

Titus · Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:34 am

Sorry.. work has been bitchy.

We are still lynching Riddleton or GC.

Titus · Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:38 am

In post 2362, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 2359, Riddleton wrote:
In post 2347, curiouskarmadog wrote:
unvote.

What happened to this 'I'm a threat in LyLo' stance?

are you against titus and CDB contributing before I go?

Stop this fucking nonsense now.

Titus · Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:40 am

CKD, your setup sucks. Farside scum likely keeps me alive bc I have zero intent of voting her and she has painted me incorrectly as scum Tevisit.