Open 576.1: The Enemy of my Enemy is my...Enemy? (Game Over)
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In post 10, mastin2 wrote:Aaaaand, you townslipped again. Standard moderating procedure is to allow scum to talk to their scumbuddy during the pregame. (Oh, and the scum obviously had N1 in the original game.)
ive been over this several times
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In post 51, Astinus wrote:1. Math's townslip doesn't seem too suspicious to me.
it is too late for me to even begin
to figure out what this means-
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In post 233, GreyICE wrote:In post 224, guille2015 wrote:In post 216, GreyICE wrote:
So in short, this 100% seems town, and I think the wagon is, again, complete horseshit.
PEdit: I am NOT in any ongoing games with MathDino, he's full of shit. There goes my fucking town read.
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In post 51, Astinus wrote:1. Math's townslip doesn't seem too suspicious to me.
something about this is off
talking about the scumness of a townslip
feels like scum trying to come up with somethin-
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In post 87, GreyICE wrote:Fine.
Post #1: An extremely strong scum tell, in my experience. Saying "X is really good, he totally tricked me!" usually means "X beat me as scum once, and now I'm going to flip the tables".
Post #2: A correction that, as far as I can tell, was 100% wrong. So there's like not even a reason for this post to exist.
Post #3: Shoveling suspicion on someone without, again, really trying to see if it was right.
In post 88, GreyICE wrote:I mean like there's other reasons not to explain your vote.
But that's mafia theory, and I can go into it later.
Suffice to say, I think that voting does not have to be accompanied by reasons, and certainly not by reasons given at the time of the vote.
In post 90, GreyICE wrote:Actually saying that
Ruins the entire thing
Seriously
Predictability is the bane of good town play, that's why meta is so terrible.
greyice radiates sense
there forrest town
Is it just me or did autocorrect go haywire there?Last edited by Voidedmafia on Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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In post 242, GreyICE wrote:would lynch NJAC just to remove a non-contributor who will never be night killed
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im not reading the rest of mstin's post
because i cant get past this
quote="In post 243, mastin2"]We can start with Egg having an immediate townread on me when frankly, I expect most players these days who have played with me within the last year to be scumreading me at gamestart. (Why? Heck if I know! But time and time again, game after freakin' game, it's been happening to me.) Then we can go into how he discredits the townreads, continuing into[/quote]
this is such a bullshit reason-
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In post 257, GreyICE wrote:It may be hard to "do something different", but the argument that dragonspawn is doing ANYTHING is pretty hard to make.
this is a fair point i could get behind
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In post 330, Goblin wrote:Was scum reading Eggbert, Mathdino, and Mastin for wall posting.
i like you
i had a minor town read on fink
im calling you town-
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In post 341, Nova-Radiance wrote:A wall post is just a large post containing lots of information. Really it just shows you give a fuck about the game that you took the time to write a decently thought out post.
so uh
its great that you're passivley refuting goblin hree
what about your opinion on goblin or his reads or
something that will be useful 5 minutes after now-
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In post 239, Mathdino wrote:By PoE the majority of the scum is probably in Fink-or-guille, Riabi, Egg, 2birds, and NJAC's slot.
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In post 360, Teen Girl Squad wrote:I think Fink/Goblin is town because I think the wagon on him is weak and based on reasoning (which was that his vote on you was bad) I don't agree with.
Anyway, we're getting way close to deadline and it's freaking me out, so:
UNVOTE: dragonspawn
VOTE: Egg
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its all meta
its such a backwards way of scumhunting
that it makes me scumread mastin-
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another prod dodge, sorry bout this guys
though the accusation that im hiding behind a not-me lynch is odd
this is multiball
as scum i would have motivation to scumhunt too
the whole point is scums motivations overlap with townies"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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i dont want to but i'll make some posts
going back about ~5 pages
also mastin
for someone whos supposed to be clear
could you talk about something more useful"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 505, Teen Girl Squad wrote:Okay. Trying to gather my thoughts here. I still am extremely doubtful that both scumteams would send their investigation results to townies, and I think this might be a scum gambit. I'm gonna sleep on it tonight and see if I still feel the same way in the morning, but I did a Very Fast Skim of Mathdino/2birds/guille ISO, and 2birds looks more like he could be Dino's partner than Guille - I just notice them having similar reads early in the day, then generally ignoring each other later on. This is all very non-careful reading atm because it's 2am here and i'm tired but I'll keep it in mind when I actually do a closer read later (hopefully tomorrow, as i'm off from work)
just a thought
ifit was a scum gambit, then players claiming reports are fakers, right
the opposite scum team would best know if its a gambit
so if it is, opposite scum would know exactly who to kill"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 507, mastin2 wrote:Also, worth mentioning, I'm kinda inclined to lynch those who have pushed conftown players like droog and Riabi (side of TGS), even though that sounds terrible to say.
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when did i push confirmtown"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 509, Riabi wrote:In post 506, mastin2 wrote:That's an awfully-large gambit.
I don't disagree, but, again, what benefit is there in scum sending their results to apparently random people?
In post 507, mastin2 wrote:Also, worth mentioning, I'm kinda inclined to lynch those who have pushed conftown players like droog and Riabi (side of TGS)...
That's a good p-lynch IMO. But, no one is actually conf-town at this point.
i dont understand this at all
you voted riabi for agreeing with you?
under normal circumstances id be suspecting birds here but
ill content mysel with a light town read on riab instead"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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: |"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 523, mastin2 wrote:
You know, this is actually an EXCELLENT point. (Well, your others were good too, but they're redundant since I'd concluded they were town anyway.In post 519, guille2015 wrote:I don't think Riabi is scum. He has mentioned that in the two previous games he and his scumbuddies (DS and TGS) talked that the ideal scum strategy was to target their buddy. Unless Math or Fink's slot convinced him of not doing this, I would think that his preference would be to target his buddy.)
Honestly, I hate to say it, but I sort-of want to say this game is a little bit of a cruise control. Two dead scum N1 and with the info we have means only so many people can be scum. Throw in reasonable assumptions like the above, and you don't even need interactions from players in order to form a POE lynch pool. And topping that list is Nova.
Realistically, I don't see us lynching anyone else today.
jesus how many wagons have you guys been through
guile to riabi to nova"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
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In post 556, 2birds1stone wrote:Mastin, is replacing out an alignment tell for GreyICE? I know I had him as town for the majority of the game, but the "scum are intentionally stalling the game" theory kinda makes me wonder.
this is what you do with your cleared?"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 583, Heartless wrote:mastin investigate doesn't say much. egg cursed him with his dying breath. mathdino probably wouldn't have done it, so i think the wolf cop suggested it. maybe droog would've done it: viewtopic.php?p=6401430#p6401430
?"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 586, Heartless wrote:he was the only one scumreading mastin at the end of yesterday
im gonna chalk it up to playstyle
i know mastins cleared but
goddamn his last few posts are still useless
and still scream
'lynch me i talk lots and say little lynch me'"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
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"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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Ok tbh
Reread bc of tth
Tth is right myniso looks like bs
Gonna reread a bit further back in exchange"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 132, Mathdino wrote:In post 126, Fink wrote:So do you agree with him that Nova was buddying then? Because it seemed ONE POST AGO that you thought it was as weird as I thought it was, until I pointed it out.
It's not pointing something out if it's bullshit. And the assertion that Guille is scumhunting and I'm not is just...
I think Nova's post was good. I think guille pointing it out was misguided, and it doesn't seem forced (hence just 'bad logic'). I think your logic on guille is fishy and opportunistic, an excuse to jump on the wagon.
In post 128, Fink wrote:Also Dino, I appreciate the 20 minutes you gave my completed game. Sorry I haven't finished a better scumgame, but if you're only looking at things to confirm your belief, rather than looking at how someone plays when you know alignment so you can try to figure them out... that's like the definition of confirmation bias.
I can't use it, that's all I can say. LyLo play is extremely different from D1 play. Meta is shaky enough as it is.
I'm not going to use the meta to validate or invalidate my suspicions. That's not confbias.
Dino hated the fink slot
I don't see them on the same wagon"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 154, Nova-Radiance wrote:I apoligized for not posting for a large period of time after the game had already started. Just trying to show good manners.
Vote:Fink
The first thing that bothered me was him calling Guile's opinion on my post bullshit. The fact that it was part of his reasoning to join the wagon on him makes this suspicious in my eyes.
And how defensive he got about it before anyone even put a vote on him. He seems like he is trying to hard to justify his actions instead of admitting he was wrong. (Though later after pressure he admitted it, but that seemed like Fink was only doing what the crowd wanted)
Also I'm very interested in Mastin's absolute confidence Egg is scum.
This is interesting
I want to check it with skmethkng"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"