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I know! He didn't include his vote for you. Tragic.In post 39, Gamma Emerald wrote:And that's terrible.-
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^^^In post 47, keyenpeydee wrote:
We're obviously not gonna go into arguments without any basis or scum reads or whatever. Just let the game flow for a while.In post 45, Eric Rasputin wrote:Alright guys, Instead of dragging this out why don't we all come to an agreement on who should we lynch? Getting 7 votes is hard with a 13 player game.-
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What's your mafia experience? I see you're a newer account here. Basically day 1 starts of with shitty votes and wagons to get the game going initially.In post 49, Eric Rasputin wrote:
Because I want D1 to actually be D1 lol ... Not D20 and nobody has been lynched yetIn post 46, Aubrey wrote:You start. I find it a bit early to propose strong lynch options. You however seem to be wanting to get a move on with it.-
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In post 45, Eric Rasputin wrote:Alright guys, Instead of dragging this out why don't we all come to an agreement on who should we lynch? Getting 7 votes is hard with a 13 player game.
@EricIn post 46, Aubrey wrote:You start. I find it a bit early to propose strong lynch options. You however seem to be wanting to get a move on with it.
You never answered my first question btw. You defended/explained why you proposed this notion in post 49, but never went to act on it yourself. Odd. I don't fully understand why you would say this without a scum read/reads included. While I think you're just newer to mafia, I can't rule out the notion of this being scum trying to seem proactive town.
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And so far you have no reason to vote me. Least you haven't given one.
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Nah. If they want it cool, but it'd only kill the surprise for when I do (or if I am) facing off against scum you. I'm also not that big of a fan for meta reads being the sole reason for which someone reads/votes another. Though I get the odd feeling your town and scum play probably aren't to far off from one another. Or you being one to change up your meta here and there.-
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Congradulations, you still have no reason to think I'm scum. Especially since you are voting me for my RVS entry. Ps: Throwing out three quotes and simply saying "and this is why I'm voting him" isn't presenting a case at all. It's frankly underwhelming.In post 103, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:In post 33, Aubrey wrote:Speedlynch gamma. He clearly doesn't understand what a personal inside joke is.In post 35, Aubrey wrote:Ugh. That was so vague that nobody would have thought anything of it, and was a perfect inside joke till you went and ruined it. Now I'm heart broken, and the only answer is to lynch ya. Gimme a hand here Transcend?
Posts for which I'm voting Aubrey.In post 36, Aubrey wrote:On another note, it's been awhile chilled. How's it going? Lovely weather? You should vote Gamma. For old times sake!
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In post 107, Eric Rasputin wrote:Sorry guys ... Been busy for a while ... I suggested we start collectively lynching because I wanted the game to move forward .... Its no problem if you dont want to do it ... I'm still sticking to Transcend btw ... I dont have any reason as to why... Im voting for him Just Because ...
You are missing my entire point. You can't say, "Hey guys let's start narrowing down some lynch options!" Without bringing forward reads. More importantly you said this at a time in which the game just started, and there was no info on the board to even accomplish it. Even now you're saying, " I have no info to work with, but let's get a move on and narrow down some lynch options!" If you're going to say this then you need to be proactive about it and stop relying on other ppl to do all the work to accomplish this. Further more, there is more to this game than just night kill analysis.
The game has just started, and we are pretty much out of RVS and starting to get info on the board. Your initial comment would be better suited for later in the game if it was clear some people were not coming out of RVS while others were.-
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I assume you're talking about Dave. If so I agree.In post 119, keyenpeydee wrote:tbh i don't find any scummy atm. mostly i read as not serious.-
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GammaIn post 135, Toto wrote:
You are talking of Dave or Eric?In post 133, Aubrey wrote:I think his most recent post is silly seeing as he self hammered as town in a previous game I played with him.-
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How are they scum motivated?In post 139, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
I wouldn't be voting you if I didn't think these posts were scum motivated. I think it is evident from a town pov why I pointed these posts outIn post 117, Aubrey wrote:
Congradulations, you still have no reason to think I'm scum. Especially since you are voting me for my RVS entry. Ps: Throwing out three quotes and simply saying "and this is why I'm voting him" isn't presenting a case at all. It's frankly underwhelming.In post 103, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:In post 33, Aubrey wrote:Speedlynch gamma. He clearly doesn't understand what a personal inside joke is.In post 35, Aubrey wrote:Ugh. That was so vague that nobody would have thought anything of it, and was a perfect inside joke till you went and ruined it. Now I'm heart broken, and the only answer is to lynch ya. Gimme a hand here Transcend?
Posts for which I'm voting Aubrey.In post 36, Aubrey wrote:On another note, it's been awhile chilled. How's it going? Lovely weather? You should vote Gamma. For old times sake!
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^^^^In post 145, Cracker wrote:In post 139, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I wouldn't be voting you if I didn't think these posts were scum motivated. I think it is evident from a town pov why I pointed these posts out
Can you explain this to me? Did you have an issue with the tone of the posts because I thought the quotes you mentioned where just intended to beshit posts that weren't supposed to be taken at face value.-
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:/ your version of quickening the game is not progressive though for the town. You're just mindlessly voting someone "Just because." Your basis is just, lets just lynch someone for little to no reason in order to move onto day 2. Tell me good sir, what do you hope to gain or learn by that? Your play is nothing more than lethargic day one play that is either coming from a lazy townie, a townie who doesn't know how to work from nothing, or scum.
Your not really trying to catch scum. Your not really trying to find likely townies. Your just a blah member right now doing a lot of nothing but complaining about day one, or trying to seem like a progressive townie as scum.
So far I'm not a fan of you or SSBM. I actually have a slight town lean for Dave right now. I like the fact he went after Transcend, and for the reasons provided even if I did not aggree with his suspicions against Transcend.-
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I don't think I need to go in depth regarding how far fetched your claim is ssbm. Maybe try Occam's razor a bit more here? Anywho, now I need to figure out where to place my vote...I'd keep it on Eric, but while his actions are kinda questionable they are no where near damnable. Plus my main issue with him was his lack of effort. Maybe whoever replaces him will do better. I'll re-read the game and consider where to place it either tonight or tomorrow.
Back to my main man Chilled Tea, who never told me how life was treating him (Rude). Why are you voting little lovable me?-
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....not exactly but okay. I don't exactly see the relevance behind this post.In post 188, LicketyQuickety wrote:
newbie spotted.In post 95, Aubrey wrote:Nah. If they want it cool, but it'd only kill the surprise for when I do (or if I am) facing off against scum you. I'm also not that big of a fan for meta reads being the sole reason for which someone reads/votes another. Though I get the odd feeling your town and scum play probably aren't to far off from one another. Or you being one to change up your meta here and there.-
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....well I do have less than 20 games under my belt. New though I think is poor term to use. Young. Now that is better! I have about 10 games completed in total. Moving on.In post 214, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Do you have less than 6 months experience and less that 20 games played? If the answer to these questions is yes, then you are new.In post 210, keyenpeydee wrote:
Sorry but I'm not new, I think? And it's really my playstyle.In post 202, LicketyQuickety wrote:
This is going to sound like a contradiction on my part, but I really really don't like the bold. The rest of the post is fine, but that part about "oh, its my playstyle" I can't say I dislike enough, especially in this game where everyone seems to be new-ish.In post 174, keyenpeydee wrote:
Oh yes, truly right. I let others push someone and I'm supporting the case back.In post 171, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Alban, was just thinking the same (SR) about keyen on the reread. Not sure what you mean by laundering but the posts do look fluffy. I don't think I saw any accusation of his yet either.He's letting others make pushes and is picking ones that look supported to back.I don't like 119 either. I was clearly being serious about my Aubrey read at the time.
VOTE: KeyenIt's because it's my playstyle.I town read everyone by default, And if someone has made accusation, I let myself investigate that person. If I agree on the said scummy person, of course, I would suspect them too. Also, I never said I wasn't reading your posts as serious nor I stated it specifically. I said,mostlyI didn't read them as serious because it was either a joke or a shit post that doesn't need to be taken as serious.
If I'm being so scummy, then lynch me.
P-Edit: I actually agree with Aubre for the most part of that post regarding my slot. I do, however disagree with the Town read on Dave. I think everything Dave has done has been NAI.-
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It was the most suspect thing I saw at the time, and reacted on it. There is nothing wrong with voting someone for suspect behavior while understanding there to be a possible reason for it. Might I add, being newer is not really alignment indicative for the action I called out. That could come from either alignment. Placing my vote on him was a much better vote than my shit vote on Gamma, and the Dave wagon did not interest me as I've said. Sooo what is so bad about that?In post 226, chilledtea wrote:
Why alban?In post 219, Transcend wrote:i
Cause I am town reading him.
Aubrey is my scum read. I didn't like they way he went for eric during dave's wagon, while giving a possibility of eric being newb. His post gave reason as "yes eric can be newb but he could also be scum doing his thing" like that can be said about anything on this planet.
Lick (replacer of eric) is also a town read.
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too kindIn post 246, chilledtea wrote:By the way amongst the player list, aubrey, alban, and transcend are very good scum players and shouldn't be considered as newbies by any means, especially transcend.
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I've basically skimmed the last 3-4 pages. On a skim, I'm much happier with the slot. As I said, my major issue with him was his contraditive attitude. "In post 249, chilledtea wrote:Initially the timing felt as if you were trying to derail the wagon on dave. It could also have been a vote, while not for derailing, for distancing.
Sometimes scum try to stay away from the topic at hand. Even if they don't want to directly influence the said topic.
Do you still find eric's slot scummy?Hey guys lets narrow down some lynch options right out the gate and get a move on, while I go sit in the corner and do nothing but complain!" When BTD said he asked for a replacement, I basically nulled the spot of its ever so light scum lean since it is so early in the game.
Regarding Dave, I just found his early posts playful shitty early day 1 activities. Eh. The argument that town would never vote themselves is farfetched, and a lie. Yea. Not a very interesting wagon in my eyes right out the gate.
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In post 198, LicketyQuickety wrote: Post 157: This is actually not a bad post and I say that as the person being attacked. I agree that my slot hasn't been the pinnacle of good play, but I replaced this slot because I read it as Town and it is. I especially like the last paragraph.
I'm glad you liked my post. I did too. On a serious note I don't exactly have much to say about this. The only thing I see commenting on is you considering Dave's actions being NAI vs. my slight town read, and even then I can't say much because I would have to talk about a game that is still ongoing that I played in with Transcend. Don't want to upset Mr. Gamma man.In post 202, LicketyQuickety wrote: P-Edit: I actually agree with Aubre for the most part of that post regarding my slot. I do, however disagree with the Town read on Dave. I think everything Dave has done has been NAI.
I didn't like being called a noob when I've played for a bit, until I read your criteria. If that is your criteria, then I fit the bill for you. Eh.
this is the contradiction you made that your talking about that I supposedly didn't like right? If it isn't then I must have missed it in my quick skim.
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Oh wait. 658 ended this morning. I can talk about it now. Dave literally pushed Transcend for the exact same reasoning I pushed him in said game. We were both townies in said game as well. While I understand this doesn't mean Dave is town 100% I think it looks good on his part, and it makes me think he is actively trying to place him which seems townie to me. It is a slight town lean mind you. Hence my Deja vu comment.
DONT FUCK IT UP DAVE! xoxoxo with love,
Aubrey.
ps. Dont fuck it up.
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I glanced through Keyen's ISO. I can see where people may consider his posts fluffy, but I'm not exactly seeing this as super scum. I'm also a bit biased since we seem to have similar ideas here and there. He understood my shit posting early on where as others failed to. We have similar thoughts on Dave. We both understand that Transcend is a bit of a wild card at times (well I assume so based on that one game). We clearly had issues with Eric's play for obvious reasons. I don't exactly consider him lurking when we have players like Deer and that hydra account that haven't said much as of recently. The argument of him considering everyone town and working from there doesn't seem all that scummy to me either. I can't say I understand why you would do that, but whatever. I work from null to X, but to each their own.
If I were to bring an argument forward against him, I'd say a good amount of his posts could easily come from either alignment. He however is bringing forward reads with some reasoning which is nice. I do find it interesting that people are shitting on him for some of his fluffy comments, but gamma never got mentioned. A number of his posts are also fluffy. There maybe other players with fluffy posts, but Gamma is the one other person who I distinctly recall having some fluff to his stuff.
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And your case against Keyen or I is that much thicker?In post 267, alban wrote:
Your case against Eric was thin. Which is why I wrote 134.In post 253, Aubrey wrote:
I've basically skimmed the last 3-4 pages. On a skim, I'm much happier with the slot. As I said, my major issue with him was his contraditive attitude. "In post 249, chilledtea wrote:Initially the timing felt as if you were trying to derail the wagon on dave. It could also have been a vote, while not for derailing, for distancing.
Sometimes scum try to stay away from the topic at hand. Even if they don't want to directly influence the said topic.
Do you still find eric's slot scummy?Hey guys lets narrow down some lynch options right out the gate and get a move on, while I go sit in the corner and do nothing but complain!" When BTD said he asked for a replacement, I basically nulled the spot of its ever so light scum lean since it is so early in the game.
Regarding Dave, I just found his early posts playful shitty early day 1 activities. Eh. The argument that town would never vote themselves is farfetched, and a lie. Yea. Not a very interesting wagon in my eyes right out the gate.
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Either what you are saying is true or you are backtracking coz you realised LQ is more active and persistent than Eric.
Also your backtracking and explanation appears defensive, and hence, suspicious.
My argument: X person looks as if they maybe attempting to be faking a proactive town stance.
Your arguments: X person is pushing a thin argument early game. X person is lurky-ish,but I'll ignore other players who are also lurky-ish.
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Explain.In post 275, chilledtea wrote:
I don't like this post at all.In post 274, Aubrey wrote:
And your case against Keyen or I is that much thicker?In post 267, alban wrote:
Your case against Eric was thin. Which is why I wrote 134.In post 253, Aubrey wrote:
I've basically skimmed the last 3-4 pages. On a skim, I'm much happier with the slot. As I said, my major issue with him was his contraditive attitude. "In post 249, chilledtea wrote:Initially the timing felt as if you were trying to derail the wagon on dave. It could also have been a vote, while not for derailing, for distancing.
Sometimes scum try to stay away from the topic at hand. Even if they don't want to directly influence the said topic.
Do you still find eric's slot scummy?Hey guys lets narrow down some lynch options right out the gate and get a move on, while I go sit in the corner and do nothing but complain!" When BTD said he asked for a replacement, I basically nulled the spot of its ever so light scum lean since it is so early in the game.
Regarding Dave, I just found his early posts playful shitty early day 1 activities. Eh. The argument that town would never vote themselves is farfetched, and a lie. Yea. Not a very interesting wagon in my eyes right out the gate.
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Either what you are saying is true or you are backtracking coz you realised LQ is more active and persistent than Eric.
Also your backtracking and explanation appears defensive, and hence, suspicious.
My argument: X person looks as if they maybe attempting to be faking a proactive town stance.
Your arguments: X person is pushing a thin argument early game. X person is lurky-ish,.but I'll ignore other players who are also lurky-ish
This feels very much like scum aubrey vs town alban.-
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I don't know how I feel about Toto. Please explain to me why it is so opportunistic? Like he said wouldn't it be more opportunistic regarding those who jumped on once the wagon began to build? In order...
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Transcend: post 15 (total RVS)
Toto: Post 42 (Basically RVS it seems with like a hint of real questioning. Once he is pushed he says he wasn't fond of the suicidal play in post 125)
Lethargy: post 56 + 57 (continues adding onto the wagon saying he is deflecting and scum with Transcend. Latter part probably being RVS talk.)
Gamma: post 58 and post 61 (says obvious scum for the self vote. Eh. No, not necessarily.)
Dave: himself post 59 (I mean yea it's weird, but seems like playful town who doesn't care about being serious just yet. Seems a bit early for scum to freak out and think, "Oh shit gotta do something crazy to get these peeps off me.")
Ssbm: post 60 who is the final vote on the bandwagon who continued to add onto the wagon because he never addressed toto only to hop off immediately once he realizes the vote count, but was still interested in lynching/pushing the slot based on his comment in post 63.
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So, why is Toto the most likely to be scum (should their be scum) on this wagon based on opportunism? I'd be interested in hearing Transcend chime in on this since he was the first person to argue this in post 97 + 101, but has now moved onto new votes.
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Of course. You are copying his original read, so I'm curious as to what he thinks as well now that time has passed. I thought it was obvious that my original post was directed at you. My apologies for not being so blunt.
My post is a simple outline of the bandwagon that unfolded against Dave, and a question as to why you have picked Toto out of all the votes as being the most opportunistic. followed by interest in hearing Transcends thoughts on the matter since it was his original read on Toto that you are also following. It wouldn't hurt to also know why Transcend found it to be the most opportunistic as well. Take it for what you will. Obviously If i was scum I wouldn't admit "oh yea i wrote that shit up to look like I was trying to figure out the game and was a bunch of filler shit."-
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I dont fully understand what difference it makes what I categorize my post as being. I didn't understand this opportunistic argument you were making (nor did I really understand Transcends original statement, but sadly I think he is full of it sometimes so I ignored it) and I mostly did it for myself and others who may want to reference back to the bandwagon. More importantly, I did it so we all would have an illustration of what occurred for when you and Transcend answered why you thought he was the most opportunistic out of the lot. Which btw, you never did.
Further more, you never addressed why you are not voting him (since you have expressed doubt) but instead are voting an empty slot who has only made one post and clearly isnt here. Your vote, based not the reason you gave, would be better suited if he had made a second post later down the line that held little substance in correlation to his lurativity.
Can we make that a new word here? Lurkativity. Has a nice ring to it.-
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Maybe I don't see it exactly as opportunistic since I assume there was a bit of RVS BS thrown in there, hence why I'm having trouble understanding why you and he feel that way about Toto. When I do try and ignore the RVS BS it just looks like the others are just as guilty about being "opportunistic as he does."
Deer will get his ass prodded sooner or later, and then we will all expect adequate content from them. Hence again why I consider your vote as useful as my non existent vote. That is what I am trying to get at. It's why I'm like "Why isnt he voting Toto then?"
You making a big fuss about what type of post my post is still doesn't make much sense to me. Whatever though...Honestly I'm at the point where I think I can give you a slight town lean for what you're doing even if I don't fully agree with it in some aspects. At least you seem to be trying to force people to be accountable for their actions, considerate, and worried about things that harm the town in general.-
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I don't know how to word it, and I feel as if it is hard to explain. Basically I found his first vote as RVS even though he questioned and wanted to know why Dave un-voted Transcend. It just didnt feel like a question he asked because he really thought Dave was scummy, but rather because RVS expects you to vote someone for little to no reason in order to see how they react. You get a better reaction from some people when votes pile up a bit, and since transcend was voting him why not? That is what I felt like he was doing. Then the whole suicidal fiasco went down, and shit hit the fan.
Some people start RVS by making some stupid comment about someone's avi or name. Some people might have a buddy that they played with and they vote them for some stupid reason. Some people vote others due to something they did. I don't know. Just seems NAI to me.-
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What?In post 368, PsychoticDave wrote:I'm not a fan of how Gamma is wording things...
Making it seem like we're both scum... >.>-
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FUCK, THE GAME ATE MY POST! Ugh. Not going to be as eloquent.
@Keyen
Basically you're not voting anybody, but have said you have 2 scum leans, 1 town read, and everybody else null. One would suspect you would vote one of your scum leans. You don't like them because they are pushing you. It iskindaOMGUS, even if they are not voting you, because you are scum reading them only for their pressuring against you. Minus of course your dissaproval of Ssmb's crappy push against me.-
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