Open 660 - White Flag (Game Over)

[LicketyQuickety]

I got what I wanted

UNVOTE: alban

What exactly did you want? And what did you get?

I wanted to see how you would react when I pissed you off.

Obviously.
Asking you about the conclusions. Not the results.

Your reaction was really very brazen. Its something I have seem a lot in my day. I have a habit of reading people based off the emotions they give. I can tell when someone is Scum and when someone is Town relatively easily when they are put in a situation where emotions run high. It usually take me tunneling them relentlessly for a while for me to get the right reaction. You are Town.

So I have two strong town reads, both starting with As.

[LicketyQuickety]

I got what I wanted

UNVOTE: alban

What exactly did you want? And what did you get?

I wanted to see how you would react when I pissed you off.

btw, if you were interested in my reaction, and assuming you got and saw what you wanted (coz you unvoted me), why did you press Transcend on his unvote?

I asked him.

[alban]

this is the chain of events:
transcend unvoted.
you questioned him.
Keyen unvoted.
You unvoted.
You justifying your vote and subsequent unvote as a sort of a test.
So, 2 questions for you:
1. Why would you question Transcend if it was a test and I passed?
2. Why didn't you unvote me immediately after reading my post if it was indeed a test? Why wait for 2 people to unvote before unvoting yourself?

[alban]

Good for

finding me out so easily.

This was unnecessary and feels a bit self-indulgent.

How is one sentence in the loooong post 'TOO MUCH'?

[LicketyQuickety]

this is the chain of events:
transcend unvoted.
you questioned him.
Keyen unvoted.
You unvoted.
You justifying your vote and subsequent unvote as a sort of a test.
So, 2 questions for you:
1. Why would you question Transcend if it was a test and I passed?
2. Why didn't you unvote me immediately after reading my post if it was indeed a test? Why wait for 2 people to unvote before unvoting yourself?

I wanted to know the motivation for Transcend to unvote. I don't have a read on him.
I wanted to see what would happen with the wagon if I kept my vote on. I had to keep up the act for at least a little while, don't you think?

[alban]

If Gamma were present at the time, I would be at L-1 now.
So, I don't believe for one second your reason for keeping up the act. If you are a town, your playacting would have cost the town an unnecessary casualty.
But let's suppose you are right.
What conclusions have you drawn about the wagon?

[LicketyQuickety]

If Gamma were present at the time, I would be at L-1 now.
So, I don't believe for one second your reason for keeping up the act. If you are a town, your playacting would have cost the town an unnecessary casualty.
But let's suppose you are right.
What conclusions have you drawn about the wagon?

VCA is not my thing at all. I basically just react to things. I just try to get good reads. That's really all I try and do. I am also really really bad at linking people together after flips. I am also really really bad at identifying PRs.

[Aubrey]

Damn. It's like a nuke went down. I'll sort though this in more detail when I get home / later tonight.

[shaddowez]

Deadline added to the bottom of the VC. BTD6 may correct me if this is incorrect.

Day 1 VC 6

PsychoticDave: Toto,
keyenpeydee: ssbm_Kyouko, alban
Lethargy: Aubrey, chilledtea
Alban: Lethargy, Gamma Emerald

Not voting: Cracker, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty, PsychoticDave, Transcend, keyenpeydee, LicketyQuickety

With 13 players, it's 7 to lynch!

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-15 02:30:00)

[ssbm_Kyouko]

tbh I've been watching the way alban has been pushing keyen and that's why I've been so quiet. I didn't have anything further to say about keyen and I wanted to see what alban would do unprompted. When I read the couple pages about Gamma preparing to leave the game last night, before I went to bed, I didn't really have any comment on that since it was resolved that Gamma was staying already. It was a distraction from the game so I didn't want to feed it. First impression upon catching up from last night is that alban's reaction to the votes on him is scum through and through. If I take that into consideration my case on keyen is not as strong because it's pretty much the same as alban's, he just posted his thoughts as I was writing mine up. Surprised at the way Transcend and LQ acted wrt the alban wagon and I think one of them is scum theatering with alban. Not sure which yet.

VOTE: alban

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Leaning towards transcend being the scum though because alban puts him on the town side of his reads list in his obvscum skittles post with all the colors of the rainbow, fwiw. Get back on this LQ don't be fooled by them

[LicketyQuickety]

You think there is a chance they are both Scum?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I think if alban is scum then either you or transcend are scum because something about that wagon stinks to high hell, it looked really contrived and it was gone in an instant, despite how scummy alban was acting throughout. Makes me think the accusation was fake in the first place and alban was putting on a show, but they were too obvious about it. It was either you and alban or Transcend and alban and like I said I think it's more likely to be Transcend.

[LicketyQuickety]

I think if alban is scum then either you or transcend are scum because something about that wagon stinks to high hell, it looked really contrived and it was gone in an instant, despite how scummy alban was acting throughout. Makes me think the accusation was fake in the first place and alban was putting on a show, but they were too obvious about it. It was either you and alban or Transcend and alban and like I said I think it's more likely to be Transcend.

That seems really weak IMO.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

That's just my suspicion on one of you 2 being the second. I mean hell, you even said "I had to keep up the act for at least a little while." I guess maybe that's an indication it wasn't scum theater after all if you admit to it before I even point it out, but it definitely looked like something was disingenuous about how that wagon formed and faded so quickly. So maybe I'm wrong about there being a partner in you and Transcend, but what if Transcend was putting on a show too? Maybe when he said "something's not right" he was referring to your vote (since it was supposedly a reaction test) but he didn't recognize it was a test so he got out of there?

I don't agree with your conclusions on how alban reacted though. That all looked like scum overreacting to being caught.

[LicketyQuickety]

That's just my suspicion on one of you 2 being the second. I mean hell, you even said "I had to keep up the act for at least a little while." I guess maybe that's an indication it wasn't scum theater after all if you admit to it before I even point it out, but it definitely looked like something was disingenuous about how that wagon formed and faded so quickly. So maybe I'm wrong about there being a partner in you and Transcend, but what if Transcend was putting on a show too? Maybe when he said "something's not right" he was referring to your vote (since it was supposedly a reaction test) but he didn't recognize it was a test so he got out of there?

I don't agree with your conclusions on how alban reacted though. That all looked like scum overreacting to being caught.

There is a difference between a Town flipping a gasket and a Scum feeling like they were caught for the wrong reasons. I have insulted enough people with my reasoning that the victim doesn't understand to know the difference.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

ok that's fair. I understand why you're not voting him but I disagree on that conclusion. Gonna dip for a while to give others a chance to respond to this development. Aubrey is still catching up tonight I think.

[Toto]

Hey guys, been busy with life and work but want to catch up tonight.

[Toto]

@gamma I don't think I said anyone was bussing dave. Where did you get the idea I was sure of that?

@Dave, please give me your top 2 reads. In terms of confidence. Scum or town. Doesn't matter.

I misread your post is what happened

Given your attempt to leave later on I'm more willing to buy this. However, can you please explain this a bit more, how did you misread my post?

[Transcend]

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

Seriously, you need to stop doing that.

[Transcend]

Doing what?

Voting scum?

[LicketyQuickety]

Doing what?

Voting scum?

All you have been doing all game is doing naked votes. I don't like it.

[Transcend]

Deal with it

[Toto]

Not sure what to make of Alban's wagon to be honest.

Alban himself says he was joking to lynchbait (that's what I understood at least) but the posts seem like he is genuinely angry. At the same time some of the posts do read like angry town.

Most suspicious participation goes to Dave who threw a shade in the wagon and never voted it. At least we know Dave and Alban are def. not scum buddies.