Open 662: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

[Rory]

VOTE: Realeo

Saw his name a lot so gud vote.

this is terrible

Eww

[Rory]

Hi Transcend!

For those who don't know, this is a Radja alt! Hi!

[Rory]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Rory]

Chimchar is also a Radja alt, Transcend. FYI.

I have plenty of alts tbh. I like to keep my Survivor characters alive by making them my alts.

[Rory]

VOTE: Realeo

Saw his name a lot so gud vote.

this is terrible

Eww

They didn't bother to read, they just voted the person with the most attention on them.

That doesn't bother me at all tbh. The fact that you're scumreading Io for it does.

[Rory]

Town is hard to spot in this setup. There are two teams so scum can catch other scum too.

I'm not going to townread people for making good cases here. I'm only going to scumread people for bad cases and bad votes.

Io's vote wasn't bad because the game had just started and random wagoning is fine at that point. Your reaction to that vote doesn't make sense to me so that's why I'm voting you.

[Rory]

that's what RVS is.

[Rory]

It was page 4 and Io's first post. Did you see this as a serious vote?

[Rory]

I don't get the Transcend Wagon

[Rory]

I'm not convinced Snarky is scum.

[Rory]

rory u can't be everyone's friend btw

I'm voting scum right now. If Gamma flips scum I'll gladly lynch Realeo.

No idea on 2nd team yet. Probably somewhere in the inactives.

[Rory]

If you're scum, I'm never townreading you again Transcend.

[Rory]

If I read the last few posts right I don't think Gamma can be town

use your vote!

[Rory]

btw gamma is still scum but he can get lynched d2 this time

VOTE: nn30


catch-up was awful

{Io, Not_Mafia}

{Joshz, culted}

{Realeo}

{BK201, PenguinPower, Clemency}

{Rory}

{SnarkySnowman}

{Gamma Emerald, nn30}

smt like this feels a-ok

I'm no orange. I'm green.

[Rory]

why am i being townread i havent done shit itg lmao

this isnt meant to get townread even more, i literally do not get it. i have no confident reads rn so i left my vote on bk but its not strong, and i havent contributed much. this compared to when i get scum read after being active >_>

srsly ppl have no right to keep townreading me!

unvote and VOTE: rory

Where does this vote come from? I wasn't even townreading you, so the point you made was obviously not against me.

[Rory]

why am i being townread i havent done shit itg lmao

this isnt meant to get townread even more, i literally do not get it. i have no confident reads rn so i left my vote on bk but its not strong, and i havent contributed much. this compared to when i get scum read after being active >_>

srsly ppl have no right to keep townreading me!

unvote and VOTE: rory

Where does this vote come from? I wasn't even townreading you, so the point you made was obviously not against me.

Josh if you continue ignoring this I will

nightkill

lynch you!

P-edit dammit Transcend let a guy post

[Rory]

Hi kmd

Thoughts asap plz

Also Rory, u can be green for now. What do u think about the rest of my reads?

Josh dropped a few notches for me, but other than that they look decent to me. nn30 isn't really on my radar yet. I can't really remember what he did.

[Rory]

I don't really see nn30 scum here.

[Rory]

I don't know. He's trying to be helpful and he's not afraid to go into an argument. I think inexperienced scum would have backed off when he didn't.

[Rory]

A feeling I guess?

[Rory]

Backed off from what?

I think he wouldn't have stuck to his guns if he was scum here. I don't know. It was the feeling I had when I was reading his posts.

[Rory]

I don't know. He's trying to be helpful and he's not afraid to go into an argument. I think inexperienced scum would have backed off when he didn't.

i disagree. i dont think experience correlates with how people play as scum, be it aggressive or lurker or what have you.

so you are reading my posts but you have ignored my question twice.

VOTE: Joshz

[Rory]

Bad vote

I don't like it when people keep ignoring my questions. It makes me feel like they're unable to answer.

[Rory]

I don't know. He's trying to be helpful and he's not afraid to go into an argument. I think inexperienced scum would have backed off when he didn't.

i disagree. i dont think experience correlates with how people play as scum, be it aggressive or lurker or what have you.

so you are reading my posts but you have ignored my question twice.

VOTE: Joshz

do u think i have u on ignore or something? lol

it looks like it because you still haven't answered the question.

[Rory]

Rory ISO looks bad.

Great argument.

[Rory]

NN-Rory Team

I almost cried when I read this.

[Rory]

rory defended you without overcommitting in a way thatd automatically pair you, granted in a weird way that scum might not attempt as culted said. see 395 397 and 398. he then votes a person pushing your lynch. hes done very little itg and a very large portion of his content is re: me naked voting him, re: you being townie, and filler.

note: i dont think rory is necessarily your scum partner or necessarily scum. i am just giving an argument that id see for it and am curios if this is what people see or what people agree with. his recent few posts are quite bad though.

you didn't naked vote me. You gave an explanation that did not make sense. I asked you about it and you didn't answer.

[Rory]

why am i being townread i havent done shit itg lmao

this isnt meant to get townread even more, i literally do not get it. i have no confident reads rn so i left my vote on bk but its not strong, and i havent contributed much. this compared to when i get scum read after being active >_>

srsly ppl have no right to keep townreading me!

unvote and VOTE: rory

Where does this vote come from? I wasn't even townreading you, so the point you made was obviously not against me.

There is no explanation here; you didn't townread me and therefore weren't even discussed in the post

so you question people for townreading you and then vote someone completely different for no reason at all? How does that make sense?

[Rory]

nn is at least contributing to town. even IF he is scum, which i still think is a possibility, in this setup id rather he stayed alive and productively helped us lynch the other scum team. id still lynch scum if i was confident but im less confident in my scum read of him than i was and in a setup with competing scum reads i dont feel confident enough to lynch an active poster who is improving in towniness.

unvote and VOTE: rory

his interactions with me have been awful, he hasnt done much else this game. not really being a productive townie either and #563 is also a thing.

omg you have to be joking.

[Rory]

why am i being townread i havent done shit itg lmao

this isnt meant to get townread even more, i literally do not get it. i have no confident reads rn so i left my vote on bk but its not strong, and i havent contributed much. this compared to when i get scum read after being active >_>

srsly ppl have no right to keep townreading me!

unvote and VOTE: rory

Where does this vote come from? I wasn't even townreading you, so the point you made was obviously not against me.

There is no explanation here; you didn't townread me and therefore weren't even discussed in the post

so you question people for townreading you and then vote someone completely different for no reason at all? How does that make sense?

I was doing just that, questioning them. Questioning =/= scumreading, and none of their reactions felt scummy to me. For example, snowman on the last page used nn's read on me as an example of a genuine one, lmao. My vote on you was a vote on a random idler for pressure and your reaction was terrible. It was a naked vote because you hadnt commented on me and we both know that, there was no reason to get that defensive.

a random idler? I was pushing for a Gamma lynch the whole time.

I didn't get defensive. I wanted to know WHY you voted me and you ignored my question at least 3 times.

[Rory]

I'd also like to zone in on 393 and 412. Notice how in 393 rory says I look good while acknowledging my vote on him. Then in 412 he votes me...? The situation was the same in both and you'd already acknowledged I looked good (*flexes*).

It was very obvious I voted you because you ignored my question 3 times. If you're trying to make a case on me do it properly and don't try to hide things.

[Rory]

nn is at least contributing to town. even IF he is scum, which i still think is a possibility, in this setup id rather he stayed alive and productively helped us lynch the other scum team. id still lynch scum if i was confident but im less confident in my scum read of him than i was and in a setup with competing scum reads i dont feel confident enough to lynch an active poster who is improving in towniness.

unvote and VOTE: rory

his interactions with me have been awful, he hasnt done much else this game. not really being a productive townie either and #563 is also a thing.

omg you have to be joking.

This is a really bad post.

Why do you think this is a joke?

Analyze and explain this please - don't just try to laugh it off. You don't have enough 'town' or 'wisdom' cred for people to sheep your opinion here.

He calls my interactions with him awful, while he has been dodging my question the entire time. I mean...seriously??

[Rory]

Bad vote

I don't like it when people keep ignoring my questions. It makes me feel like they're unable to answer.

Did you even read this?

[Rory]

Is that seriously your entire source for your gamma scum read?

yes it is. I don't need anything else.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Rory]

I mean he has been providing reasons for why you are scum which is what you asked him.
Not to mention most of the quotes he is providing are from before you asked said question.

Well if he had given them immediately, I wouldn't have made a big deal out of it. I don't like being ignored.

[Rory]

People miss stuff all the time. If you want your stuff amswered, re post and re ask, don't scum read someone for doing something that could be chalked up to a human error.

@IO - connect those dots for me. I'm not fully understanding the conclusion you want me to draw.

I did re post and re ask, twice.
Then I voted him for not answering.

I never scumread him for not answering. Don't put words in my mouth.

[Rory]

People miss stuff all the time. If you want your stuff amswered, re post and re ask, don't scum read someone for doing something that could be chalked up to a human error.

@IO - connect those dots for me. I'm not fully understanding the conclusion you want me to draw.

I did re post and re ask, twice.

Then I voted him for not answering.

I never scumread him for not answering.

Don't put words in my mouth.

So, you voted me but you didn't scum read me?

You're going to have to do a better job convincing me Gamma is scum than that if you want me to change my vote btw.

Correct. I thought maybe a vote would get your attention. Which it did.

I work with gut feelings a lot. If you don't think Gamma is scum you shouldn't vote him. You're allowed to be wrong

[Rory]

KMD just how do you get to townread someone properly in a multiball game?

[Rory]

VOTE: BK201

I'll try catching up tomorrow. Today is not going to happen.

[Rory]

Christmas sure is a thing.

[Rory]

I'm sorry, my head is not in this game. I think it's better if I replace out.

mod, please replace me.