Open 662: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

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VOTE: BK201

Slimy

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Please do

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I forgive

But i never forget

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But i already think you're town

VOTE: Realeo

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Yeah i got lazy with updating my records

Just know that I've lost a fuck ton of games and won a few :/

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Wassup

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VOTE: culted

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Realeo no, RVS is the best part of the game

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That was hammer

Final thoughts?

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Do u kno how nm plays

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I don't see anything wrong with him L-3ing someone on page 2?

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Your voting pattern is very obscure this game.

VOTE: Realeo

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I don't find it genuine that you joined a wagon and evaded it to vote someone who voted on it.

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Wassup

This rope.

Are you an alt of someone that doesn't like me lol

What do you think of the wagon that formed on you?

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Well uh, alright G.

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culted is those "gutsy" vote that you know that your gut can be wrong, but it's bothering you.

N_M was a red flag.

What was "gutsy" about voting culted?

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I don't find it genuine that you joined a wagon and evaded it to vote someone who voted on it.

From the word choice "evaded", I imply Realeo-culted scum team?

No...?

What the fuck... lol

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So then why did you find his evasiveness scum motivated?

Voting pattern doesn't look town motivated like he voted one person sent them to L-4, someone sent them to L-3, and he immediately votes them. It makes no sense.

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culted i feel we're gonna be really good buddies this game

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i dig this wagon quite a bit whooooo whoooooo

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Hey Realeo where'd you go =(

Did u get caught as scum and hide in ur mafia PT to talk to ur buddy =( =(

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So then why did you find his evasiveness scum motivated?

Voting pattern doesn't look town motivated like he voted one person sent them to L-4, someone sent them to L-3, and he immediately votes them. It makes no sense.

Sounds fair.

He's really trying way too hard to twist my reply to BK as scummy don't think that shit usually comes from town at this stage.

Check your logic.

If I'm trying to push culted by "trying way too hard", why I do have to be greedy and hit N_M as well?

One is possible. Two is not.

if this is your rebuttal then meh

but your vote on culted seemed more "gut based"

and your vote on n_m seemed like it was more "logical"

and i don't really buy either of those.

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It's not that I don't believe your gut, it's that I don't buy your TRANSITION being genuine.

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I do not give a flying fuck about your vote on culted

We all voted culted, for probably different reasons. Escalating bandwagons at the early portion of day 1 is good.

BUT your immediate TRANSITION to Not_Mafia is very worrisome and it looks INCREDIBLY not genuine.

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VOTE: Realeo

This is your formal invitation to become powertown with me.

Do you accept?

Select all that apply

[] Yes
[] No
[] Maybe
[] Applesauce

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Nice!!!!

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I can't believe we caught scum already!!!!

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Well after we lynch Realo Gamma's actually scum for making a scum read based solely off of a single RVS vote. Someone's desperate to make a scum read.

YOU AND ME

WE ARE TOWN THIS GAME

WE CAN ACTUALLY GET GAMMA RIGHT NOW IF U WANT

VOTE: Gamma

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probably on separate teams but idk

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Gamma's more scummy than Realeobtw

also Io is town

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I am not confident you are scum, though it is one of my stronger reads atm

Why is Io one of your stronger scum reads?

Because he's just voting the person he noticed while skimming

THAT IS SUCH A REACH BRO

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Gamma's tone also feels eugh here

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VOTE: bk201

Explain this.

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*puppy dog eyes*

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thank u

i think he's town

admittedly that's only based on meta tho

io's still the strongest townread i have.

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tone and progression

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Lmao Joshua

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Yeah because i don't change for a scummy reason

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Trying to make me look scummy by misrepping me is scummy.

VOTE: Josh

Bad vote

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VOTE: Not_Mafia
He's incentivizing unproductivity.

Bad vote

No seriously this is a scumclaim and needs to be incinerated.

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I was talking about the reasoning

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You were talking about my post, not his

Oh i was agreeing with you that his vote was a bad vote

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realeo might be lynchbait

gamma's just scum

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Hi Rory

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I didn't know that! Don't think I've played with you. But I've specced a few of your completed games as host. Well done!

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Nice!

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GURL LOOK AT THAT BACKPEDAL

light can we get some prods on clemency (prob site flaked) and nn30??

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DANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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then vote me????????????//

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yeahum no prob

(btw i won't get lynched today but please continue to make a shitty case on me)

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VOTE: Transcend

my friend

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snarky prob scum just not the same team as gamma since it took gamma voting ME for him to vote ME

pedit: neither

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it was the beginning of the game

i had no scumreads

you WERENT a scumread

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rory u can't be everyone's friend btw

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btw gamma is still scum but he can get lynched d2 this time

VOTE: nn30


catch-up was awful

{Io, Not_Mafia}

{Joshz, culted}

{Realeo}

{BK201, PenguinPower, Clemency}

{Rory}

{SnarkySnowman}

{Gamma Emerald, nn30}

smt like this feels a-ok

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SS could be lynchbait but I've correctly read him as town when that happened. Not feeling it this time.

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Just a weak gut that i don't really want to commit much to

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Scum reading Bk201. They are far too happy to sheep onto wagons for my tastes.

The D1 Culted wagon was definitely sheeped by at least one mafia. Will have to look back at it to theorycraft who. Probs not the first vote though (whoever that was).

Contradiction?

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Like nn30's reads made me cringe the entire time, and to top it off, no vote to follow. Lmao.

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Io come vote scum with me

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Oddmusic and bk did

U got d1ed

Anyways

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Oddmusic and bk did

U got d1ed

Anyways

See the word "we"
And I did my part by scumming it up, making it look like a bus happened.
Moving on.

You did nothing

Bk made it look like a bus due to his devilish night kills

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@Town - If I get lynched in the next ~5 hours, look to Transcend and Culted.

Transcend's rainbow bs read list reeks of trying too hard and his read on me reeks of trying to turn me into lynchbait.

So what about your "meta-dive" on me then

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I mean, I see the fake too. I'm just not sure what to do with you.

For now: VOTE: Transcend

Nice

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Anyways if my reads list is 100% accurate, then there's a faction that has both members on me. So i may need to reassess.

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And last time I called someone out on that early on in this setup, they claimed doc and ended up flipping fire scum. Easy.

I assume you're talking about shotty in beeboy's game

1. He was actually ice scum. I subbed into his partner's slot.

2. He put you down in his tier list before you even spoke. The only person that hasn't spoke is Clemency and he's in my null tier.

3. I assume you don't like yourself being so low because we both agree on Gamma and he's at the dead bottom of my list.

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Define opaque lol

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Hi kmd

Thoughts asap plz

Also Rory, u can be green for now. What do u think about the rest of my reads?

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Define opaque lol

nn30 please

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Lynch on this guy is p solid btw

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lynch the die

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Your meta dive on me sucks because i tryhard infinitely harder as scum.

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Lol

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I think

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Realeo is a mislynch

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Pree sure Joshz is town

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Lol

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Culted is obvtown

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Cuz i said so

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Bad vote

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I am

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Can the die die

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I have no idea what he's doing

But it's objectively not pro-town

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I don't like excuses

You won the game

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K but still

I don't like the excuse given for your bad play this game

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Should i order pizza

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Fucking keep scum claiming dude lol

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Not a big fan

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@Town - vote me if you need to. When I flip town, look to Transcend.

There's no point in making this post

You're soaked.

Both factions are gonna kill me tonight along with doc saving me

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The thing about nn's push on me is, it's one of those pushes that feels more like him looking for someone to push, if that makes sense. And his boring leading questions reflect that well.
Plus his last vote there seems to be scum just throwing whatever's gonna stick and kinda feels like scum giving up tbh.

Did u kno he acquiesced to the second strongest wagon besides him for pitiful reasons?

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Course not.

You prefer living.

P-edit: wrong, fam.

Pp-edit: lol why would both factions target you? Hold on... maybe I need to be wearing a tin foil hat to be on the same page as you...

Bc I'm the king

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These pushes on me are so bad out of both Transcend and Culted.

And assess your tunnel on me

I don't buy you u using the VI card as an excuse for your shitty play

You omgus me immediately?

I have the 2nd most amount of votes?

Lol.

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Anyways i have one fire, one ice, and one idiot on my lynch right now.

I don't see one faction putting all their eggs on my lynch this early.

G2H SnarkySnowman is the idiot

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NN-Rory Team

Not so sure. Defense was awkward but seems bold for buds.

Great minds think alike, my friend

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1. Skimmed it
2. K
3. Bs

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Firebringer bussed his partner in the FNI i hosted.

He won.

However, i wouldn't bus my partner either. At least, this early.

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Oh he bussed day 1.

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Course i did bus the mod in this game on day 1 but she got dayvigged. I was planning to unvote. ;-;

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Firebringer bussed his partner in the FNI i hosted.

He won.

However, i wouldn't bus my partner either. At least, this early.

He's lucky the other mafia didn't get a lucky NK on him, or get lynched since you're not conf town for bussing your partner in this set-up.

Ice tried to kill him

But a certain cow in this game saved his life!

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1. Skimmed it
2. K
3. Bs

See? Willful ignorance.

You're scum or town with conf bias goggles on.

Which is it?

I guess I'm scum because I'm not confbiasing you.

I've tried to see you as town, i really have.

It's just not happening.

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Course i did bus the mod in this game on day 1 but she got dayvigged. I was planning to unvote. ;-;

You know that makes zero sense, let's stay on topic. NN is scum. Rory possible partner. I think Rory is scummy even without looking for connections to NN.

Agree

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Errrr you sound upset that i fos you

Yet you're voting me and your death wish is for me to get lynched

Why does me voting you upset you

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Because I'm town.

And town getting mislynched goes against our win con.

Your push on me dismisses my defense as BS.

My final wish is that you get lynched because I think you're scum pushing on me.

The 'I've done all I can to convince you' line should have been explicitly directed at town rather than you.

And what exactly made you think i was scum before i voted you?

You said in your catch up you had me as a town lean solely due to a meta dive.

And no that comment was directed at me. No one else is even talking with you right now. You sound upset I'm voting you.

Pedit: wot

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@Transcend - if you want, I can point to particular posts from the recently completed mini-normal which mirror my behavior here. Maybe that'll beef up my defense in your eyes.

Go ahead and do that bc i only skimmed that. I didn't read any of those walls.

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*not really relevant as of now* if ice and mafia shooters both hit each other how does that work on ms? both die, neither, some weird priority? if ice shoots fire who shoots town does town die or n (guessing n)

If they crosskill they both die in p sure.

If ice shoots fire who shoots town, both fire and town die

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And what exactly made you think i was scum before i voted you?

Your refusal to take the game you just read into account in your read on me. It read as scum trying to push a mislynch despite sufficient contradictory information. On second thought, it could just be lazy town. Or paranoid town. Or conf biased town.

I didn't read it

I just skimmed it

Looks like you, prism, and blackvoid gave it your all so i applauded the three of you

Was hella intense

Can i have those posts tho

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Can you quote them here

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gamma

Botd for now

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I really still think you can be scum but i want to see how you play without pressure on you.

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Look bud, lynch hopping with little to no reasoning isn't going to make me want to change my mind.

Why culted?

What do you think of the people not on your lynch right now (besides me)?

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NO WHAT

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I think culted's progression through the game is genuine.

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Just a gut honestly

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why're you playing so cautiously

speak your mind bub

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errrr alrighty then

agree with josh

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sorry i just like to know what everyone is thinking always

that's why i post reads lists often and that's why i determine if people's reads are legit or not.

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Oh shit prodge

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The fuck

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Could vote Rory but i also dig a gamma lynch.

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Opportunistic

Not genuinely advancing through the game

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Lol

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You're fucking awful

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VOTE: nn

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np

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oh no

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TTYL

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Oh, that doesn't stand for talk to you later

It stands for twilight trolling you lost.

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Same

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anyways, me and both factions know that i got night killed by both of them so nice try fuckers

yes nn was most likely a mislynch and the suckitude of his wagon was really high, but i will rarely resist a lolhammer

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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no they both targeted me

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no one else in this table is worthy of a night 1 kill by both factions except for me.

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why is SS scum?

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why is SS scum?

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sigh

if it were anyone but snarky

but it's snarky

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VOTE: Rory

pedit: agree. i haven't seen scum!ss before, only lynchbaittown!ss. i don't rely on meta too much though.

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You 2 can stop your dick measuring contest of which of you has the better reads because face it you both were trash yesterday with you reads.

okay then, what are your reads?

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VOTE: bk201

i don't exactly know the odds of this being a hit or not but eh i haven't been wowed by this slot's performance this game.

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KMDnumbers is someone i wanna reread but not right now since he walled a lot. IIRC though i found him a little bit fishy.

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lol why would scum kill you

even if you're doctor you'd save one of them

;D

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VOTE: Kmd4390

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Holt cow si many wirds

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Snurkey snowmen mebe town guys idk

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Iwill check tge wiki when imsobrr i pronis3 im town okplease

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Did u kno he world was sippod ed d to end 4y ears agi today???

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Apologies

Was drunk. I'll look this over later lol.

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Vote hopping is an alignment tell for you?

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Vote hopping is an alignment tell for you?

who is this @

It was towards bk.

And me personally, i don't feel vote hopping is alignment indicative for anyone unless it's closer to lylo. By then you should be somewhat confident that you've solved the game. Day 1 vote hopping is usually completely NAI.

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hope all goes well for you io.

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VOTE: LightGangski

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I don't know where to go with this.

I'm gonna safely only hard town read Josh for now.

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P

R

O

D

G

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Merry Christmas Eve, everyone.

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He forgives the mafia too

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Merry Christmas

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Lel

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VOTE: Rory

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UNVOTE:

what is it with fire and ice games and a massive amounto f replace outs. pretty much every slot in my game had more than 1 person in it.

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sucks that you got a scumslot man

but hey you're welcome to change my mind

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hey culted

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hey kuroi did you know that nn30 got d1'd

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hey kuroi did you know that nn30 got d1'd

I did, but I forgot.
At least my read was right about him.

VOTE: KuroiXHF

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ouch

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how often do you get mislynched btw

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how often do you get mislynched btw

All the fucking time.

UNVOTE:

then i'll give you botd because i'vescumread you in like every single game i've played with you and been wrong every time.

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why is io/fitz scum?

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Lol

So i vote you, you make a big stink about it

I unvote you, you make a big stink about it

Idgi

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Why did you make no comment on my lol hammer on nn30

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Btw i have a feeling SnarkySnowman is going to be a mislynch

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Hell yeah i did. Lolhammer is my specialty.

Pedit: the catch up was okay but yeah i feel like you could've commented on more, but it's good you're all caught up.

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What is so scummy about Snarky? I bet he plays this way as either alignment, just like NM. They are anti-town lynch-bait. Not saying they aren't scum, but we have better choices.

And I don't see Transcend as scum, he's null to town. His interaction with you (Kuroi) is odd but that's not enough for me to lynch him.

If I keep Transcend here, it's either because he's too special to die or I can't resist that puppy.

Woof woof

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Your message contains too few characters.

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Tbh it's visible on mobile

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I'm not a troll

I'm gonna solve this game and get myself a Scooby Snack

That's a face

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Fact*

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I'm ready and I'm willing

You can count on me

We're gonna catch those villains

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Ruh roh!

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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Gamma's just shadethrowing at this point lol

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Three 17 hour shifts? Do you know how to love yourself?

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My mistake. 16 1/2.

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VOTE: SS

OVERKILL BABY

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tbh if nm didn't do it was gonna do it

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n_m we should hydra and make our name Lean n Mean Lolhammering Machines.

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helll yea

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lmfao

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Happy birthday Aris!

Before he locks the thread.

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Hey like can you guys start cross killing now

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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Not me. All i knew was that he was town.

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Uggv w really needs to kill one mafia it dhoukdbt br t g s6 hsrd

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BUMP

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Doc target is useless

Scum can be saved

Scum crossed d1 as well

Also I'm no longer trusting you

Ever

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Oh yeah i meant n1 lol

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Will rr io i may have been wrong there

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Fuck i read the first 4 posts, why did i town read this?

VOTE: Fitz

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Okay finished the Io iso.

This slot is scum imo.

Gamma is still scum too.

As for the other two idk.

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I'm not too sure about Kuroi being a scum flip anymore. Time will tell.

Pretty sure BK and Joshz are town here.

No idea how to read NM. Is he town? Guys?

Realeo could be scum too. The beginning of his game was a giant wtf.

Kmd for fourth scum? I remember him being pretty towny.

Aristo? I haven't made apples and oranges of him yet.

Blurgh.