Open 677: See Nayne Ples Ples [THE END]

[Electra and Orestes]

Yes, Electra and Orestes is a hydra of Alisae and Aristophanes.

Oh god I can only imagine what that hydra is gonna be like playing with :/

@Uzi you like that lol. I thought I was clever :p

Like what!
Come on now, that's rude ;~;
-Electra

[Electra and Orestes]

Oh I should probably be attacting my sig to my posts hehe.
Just look there to see who's talking
-Electra

[Electra and Orestes]

I really do not enjoy playing with hydra. I say we lynch Electra and...

If you don't like hydras then you should be voting the hydra if you wanted to lynch it. Put your vote where your mouth is!
Besides that people like to hydra, so you could have avoided the situation all together.
So Policy Lynching a hydra just because you don't like hydras is selfish and bad.
-Electra.

[Electra and Orestes]

What I was trying to say is that you are trying to convince us to not lynch you just because you claim to be a vanilla townie. For all we know you could be lying.

Where was this claim and why is that AI in the slightest?
-Electra

[Electra and Orestes]

Yes, Electra and Orestes is a hydra of Alisae and Aristophanes.

Oh god I can only imagine what that hydra is gonna be like playing with :/

@Uzi you like that lol. I thought I was clever :p

Like what!
Come on now, that's rude ;~;
-Electra

Well I haven't gotten to play with Ari but you're such an active kinda wild all player Ali that it's gonna be an interesting hydra regardless. Am I correct in assuming Electra is Ali?

Well its a pleasure to meet you! It says who is who in our Sig. We're really not gonna be that difficult tho!

I really do not enjoy playing with hydra. I say we lynch Electra and...

I find your immediate discredit of Hydrae disturbing. As Alisae said, why not vote us I'd this is your stance? Are you willing to PL us and Music & Mail to ensure a hydra free game?

[Electra and Orestes]

Ah shit, first post and I'm already forgetting to sign!

57 is me!

- Orestes

[Electra and Orestes]

They'll probably lurk until they're dead or game ends.

Creature, I'm hurt!
Is this really what you think of us??
</3

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

so far I don't like momo, and that's with the consideration that they are a very new player and have no idea what they are doing.

What if you consider them an alt, as they somehow already have anti-Hydra stances and are thus unlikely to be new?
Does that change your reading of them?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

so far I don't like momo, and that's with the consideration that they are a very new player and have no idea what they are doing.

What if you consider them an alt, as they somehow already have anti-Hydra stances and are thus unlikely to be new?
Does that change your reading of them?

- O

No, because then they are playing dumb and I view that as a Scum tell.

Good, we're on the same page!

They are a slot I'd like to run up without a doubt! Join me?

VOTE: Momo

[Electra and Orestes]

(Obviously still Aristes)

[Electra and Orestes]

Did Agent Sparkles ask the mod to confirm him?

Good question.

Why is it a good question?

Because I was wondering the same thing.

People need to read.

At the start of Day 1

,

the moderator of the game will announce you as an Innocent Child

,

confirming you as town.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

I was not being serious at all. Just taking a pill.

(Feel like I need to clarify due to amount of hate).

I was not hating and that was not worded as if to get opinions, but to cast early shade our way.
And nice AtE.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Feeling slight SK vibes from Uzi that I cannot explain. Like they seem to be asking some pretty basic shit, not really doing much and I know Uzi is a pretty proficient player so that has me worried.

SK Hunting already?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Feeling slight SK vibes from Uzi that I cannot explain. Like they seem to be asking some pretty basic shit, not really doing much and I know Uzi is a pretty proficient player so that has me worried.

SK Hunting already?

- O

I am not "hunting" for anything in particular. Just had a feeling.

I know, just playin'

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Feeling slight SK vibes from Uzi that I cannot explain. Like they seem to be asking some pretty basic shit, not really doing much and I know Uzi is a pretty proficient player so that has me worried.

Why are you looking for an SK right now?
-Electra

[Electra and Orestes]

My experience with an SK is that they want to be liked by everyone.
-Electra

[Electra and Orestes]

My experience with an SK is that they want to be liked by everyone.
-Electra

Well idk, i've never played SK before, the only SK i saw wanted to play town vig so xD

These are both literally how I play SK. Absolutely a favourite role of mine!

Feeling slight SK vibes from Uzi that I cannot explain. Like they seem to be asking some pretty basic shit, not really doing much and I know Uzi is a pretty proficient player so that has me worried.

Why are you looking for an SK right now?
-Electra

I already explained this. Its not that I am looking for anything in particular. I am just observing and noting my observations. Its not even a strong point. I just had a feeling - gut.

In sync already? I love it!!

Also, Hi Sakura!! *waves*

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Cool. I still think people should vote for LicketyQuickety.

I don't really feel it but I can see why you want people to follow.

Really? Because I don't.

LUV, can you expand on what you think Momo sees?

Momo, afterwards, can you tell me why LQ is scum?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Hmm, i dont mind you having a feeling, but im wondering why SK feeling in particular instead of groupscum.

Because it looks like trying to play "Null." Asking basic shit that is low risk. SK wants to play null rather than Townie like Mafia because that keeps them alive longer.

If the last few games I've seen of Uzi are any indication this his PR/imma PR hit me first town game. Or at least that's what he says

Can you restate this in proper English please?
You lost me.

What does Uzi say? Why are you gonna hit yourself?
What does any of this have to do with Uzi's meta!?

You legit confused me man.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

I am going to use Kison vote counter. Please be kind that when voting, you uses full username.

Unless I am misunderstanding something this looks like you have to use the full username for the vote to be valid.

I think you are misunderstanding.

Votes and unvotes must be in either bold tags or vote/unvote tags to count. If I reckon it, I reckon it. If I don't, then I don't reckon it until I do

I'd bet Realeo would recon it is a vote.

He'd just have to add it in manually.

Also, LQ, RC, thanks for making a few very painful pages there.

VOTE: Electra and Orestes

I'm proposing an E&O wagon. Anyone up for it?

Why?

They look awkward.

I'd like more words on this. You voted us twice in a row when we haven't said anything for a while.
What makes us feel awkward and why is awkward scum?

- O


I got ninja'd by the mod literally making my point for me!
GG Ari, keepin' it realeo!

[Electra and Orestes]

Even if Sakura is scum I sincerely do not believe that she is lying about not understanding how the vote counter works, nor that she was wifully deceiving anyone via casting a trickvote.

Why not? I don't think it was her intention to not understand but that she knew she wasn't going to keep their vote on you very long so didn't need to know that you had to use the full username, conveniently.

If I was back from a long hiatus I would be damn sure to read every last thing the mod wrote in text.

What's the scum motivation for it? What does she gain from lying about the vote? And also not many people read the rules: I didn't read the rules except the game related ones.

Motivation? Not sure. Looking busy, looking Town? IDK because IDK who is Town and who is Scum, but they could be trying to protect/attack a player/angle that I cannot see and since IDK what the motivation is, it is automatically suspect.

This is stupid. She made a mistake that wasn't even a mistake because of a rule that isn't even in the rules post.

Her reaction to it was genuine AF and I don't think there is any value to an argument that it is AI.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Alright LQ, you are still coming after me when I am clearly town. I have been trying to catch scum while you just try and lynch people purely based on principal. You don't scum read anyone. You just try and get people lynched purely because you disagree with their play style. Please, play for town like you clearly should be.

And E and O, since you are back, feel like voting for someone actually scummy now since it has been established I an town.

For one thing, LQ is pushing people to get reads. If he was trying to just get people lynched based on playstyle his push would be on M&M.

Secondly, you have yet to post a link to EpicMafia. Simply use Game Title and paste the URL after the = sign and insert the title into the obvious spot.

Finally, you are in no way obvtown. Why are you assuming this? I have no intention of moving my vote. Alisae can if he wants, but I see no reason to.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Also, you people really like to hear yourselves talk. There is so little content in the last like 7 pages it's stupid.
Get it together!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

jkfl;ajl;vmijew;u983jfaoicvlkjraifeoiwjsalk

OMG OMG OMG!!!!

Hi Anti!!!! =D

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Creature is null for me but probably town since I think he's trying a bit harder than usual but in a fake way.

What!?

If he's fake and trying too hard, why does that make him town!?!?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Actually, I went from lolvote to willing to vote on Hawk.

What's changed? I don't remember anything new from him.

Don't worry, Creature's just probably scum.
That explains away most of his posts.

Speaking of,
VOTE: Creature

Alisae has more to say on this too, but I totally think he;s playing a scumgame. Albeit a weird game, but scum nonetheless.

- O

Shit!

[Electra and Orestes]

I can!
Now I'm here, and I didn't read Mail v LQ.
AMA
-Electra

[Electra and Orestes]

I didn't read Mail v LQ.

Don't worry, not worth

I think anti's town

I'm probably in, but they just arrived. What makes you think this so quickly?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Regardless even if he wasn't anti's a very easy read.

jeez you don't think i could possibly fake what i posted so far?

fuck

Yeah Sakura, Up the Anti a bit!
He is really fun and can be a great player! What makes yo u think he's so easy to read?

Creature is null for me but probably town since I think he's trying a bit harder than usual but in a fake way.

What!?

If he's fake and trying too hard, why does that make him town!?!?

- O

mmmmmm

p sure there's supposed to be "not in a fake way"

Not what was said, so I wants a clarifications!

hey ari

i don't think there's anything to your mom scumread

I honestly thought this was a your mom joke
Yeah, maybe not. But I'm watching them. Wanna join us on Creature instead?

Also, I totally forgot you were revealed Lmao!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

i am more pathetic than i realized

Nooooo!

You are most enjoyable!
You are awesome fun!
You may be the Antihero to the site, but you are the hero of the game!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Not E&O?

</3

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

who are you townreading so far sakura?

You (duh), creature, maybe persivul, maaaybe M&M.

What gives you Creature and Pers townreads?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Oh yeah i do think you're town too Art.

<3 returned

I wrote some stuff up on Creature in out Hydra PT. Lemme see what you two think of it!

[Electra and Orestes]

He's being vague, not following through with his reads, etc. He voted us for being weird but when asked to explain changed his vote. He has no reasoning on Hawk other than the Iceberg thing which i believe means he thinks there is scummy motivation to the posts but isn't saying what it is or why he thinks it, and he tried to slip our wagon into the arguments there without doing any work and avoided the LQ/RC thing as if to slide by and not ruffle feathers of 2 townies fighting.

That's what I had for Alisae off the top of my head.
I like you two and want to make the most of Conftown Anti while we have you, so please weigh in

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

KTS, where do you stand. Are you hopping on the UZI wagon. What about E and O. Are you guys thinking about the UZI wagon.

An Uzi, do you have any solid opinion on this game.

I might have has you not made this push so icky and useless.

Also, I believe you've avoided some questions by LQ and by myself. Why is that? And could you go back and answer things that were addressed to you please.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

I never saw Aristophanes pretty aggressive and he knows he's pushing blatant NAI shit on me.

LQ should also know about it too.

I tend to be a bit more aggressive in hydrae because I have a head to bounce reads off of making me more confident, and because I don't want to let my hydra partner down.

LQ, that case was on Creature.

Also, apparently my vote didn't count (I mean, it was in my slip so I shouldn't be surprised) so even though Momo is being icky with the LUV wagon, I'm going to place it here.

VOTE: Creature

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Alright LQ, you are still coming after me when I am clearly town. I have been trying to catch scum while you just try and lynch people purely based on principal. You don't scum read anyone. You just try and get people lynched purely because you disagree with their play style. Please, play for town like you clearly should be.

And E and O, since you are back, feel like voting for someone actually scummy now since it has been established I an town.

For one thing, LQ is pushing people to get reads. If he was trying to just get people lynched based on playstyle his push would be on M&M.

Secondly, you have yet to post a link to EpicMafia. Simply use Game Title and paste the URL after the = sign and insert the title into the obvious spot.

Finally, you are in no way obvtown. Why are you assuming this? I have no intention of moving my vote. Alisae can if he wants, but I see no reason to.

- O

Alright LQ, you are still coming after me when I am clearly town. I have been trying to catch scum while you just try and lynch people purely based on principal. You don't scum read anyone. You just try and get people lynched purely because you disagree with their play style. Please, play for town like you clearly should be.

Why are you clearly Town? You have not actually done a whole lot to catch Scum. Why do you think I am just trying to lynch people based on principle? I Scum read lots of people and can see a lot of people being Scum in this game. Nope, I read people based on playstyle, I don't read people because of playstyle. Generic BS.

These stand out on my head because we asked the same question and you didn't even try to answer.

Why are you obvtown? How!?

What about an outside link? I gave you a template and LQ asked for one a whole ago now.

Also, I hate that you're playing the victim with LQ. Like he's a big meanie who is pushing you and pushing you and not letting up when that's clearly not the case. It's a weird narrative you're setting up.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

What case was on creature?

He's being vague, not following through with his reads, etc. He voted us for being weird but when asked to explain changed his vote. He has no reasoning on Hawk other than the Iceberg thing which i believe means he thinks there is scummy motivation to the posts but isn't saying what it is or why he thinks it, and he tried to slip our wagon into the arguments there without doing any work and avoided the LQ/RC thing as if to slide by and not ruffle feathers of 2 townies fighting.

That's what I had for Alisae off the top of my head.
I like you two and want to make the most of Conftown Anti while we have you, so please weigh in

- O

If this is about Creature, this is pretty solid.

Creature has not impressed me so far.

[Electra and Orestes]

As I said earlier, I am new to this site.

So, I have no idea what ISO is.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page. Look under where you can post. select one person form the drop down menu. then hit the little plus icon and it will give another place to select someone. when you have the people you want to ISO, hit the button to ISO.

Or, just click the "ISO" button beside the post number if a post they made.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

I have no motivation for the wagon other than trying to force the hand of and lynch a potential mafia.

Which makes both the wagon and your insistence on getting more votes on it bad.

And stating a wagon is for pressure relieves a lot of the pressure from the votes. You've stated you aren't looking to push a lynch through on him, so why should he worry?

Why do you need more votes than you have to make him feel pressured? L-3 should be enough, no?

- o

[Electra and Orestes]

Yeah, Creature is kinda meh, same as Uzi, same as momo, same as KTS. Lot of people not pulling their weight in this game.

Hmm...the first three are in my red zone...
Maybe I'm reading this all wrong. They are meh but scummy, so any of the three are where I'll vote today. Legit my current voting pool.

KTS just got here, so no read yet.

- O

Ninja'd
I keep forgetting about Hawk...

[Electra and Orestes]

Can I see some direct quotes from either E and O or Hawk that implicate Creature.

I literally just quoted my own post on this. Are you on reading things addressed to you or what??

What case was on creature?

He's being vague, not following through with his reads, etc. He voted us for being weird but when asked to explain changed his vote. He has no reasoning on Hawk other than the Iceberg thing which i believe means he thinks there is scummy motivation to the posts but isn't saying what it is or why he thinks it, and he tried to slip our wagon into the arguments there without doing any work and avoided the LQ/RC thing as if to slide by and not ruffle feathers of 2 townies fighting.

That's what I had for Alisae off the top of my head.
I like you two and want to make the most of Conftown Anti while we have you, so please weigh in

- O

If this is about Creature, this is pretty solid.

Creature has not impressed me so far.

Stop making me quote things I just did. Do some leg work! Why not Iso a player and see why they voted? You now know how to do that. It isolates just that player's posts, so you get a snapshot of the posts and progression, but with only the context of what is said/quoted (the one downside to Isos).

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Momo, I went back and quoted things for you. You ignored them again.

Wtf bro!?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Dude you can't access old games on EpicMafia.

Well thanks for telling me that now, would have been good to know a while ago.

What about you claiming to have become obvtown when you are not at all?
Can you tell me why you think that?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Also not hot on a Sakura wagon. Anyone want to give me a concise case?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Because I have seen by role PM.

And because I am trying to bait out scum.

Well nobody else has, so how is that obvious to anyone!?

I don't see how you're baiting scum either...

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

M and M, why should we vote Hawk. Is this you trying to start a wagon. I am kind of in between with him,(leaning towards scum) but should he really be lynched.

Anyone have a good read on Antihero

.

M and M. Please explain solid reasons on why you would like us to vote Hawk.

I was pretty sure Anti was town too.

And neutral, are you admitting to being the SK.

Tell me again how autocorrect did this.

I'm all ears!

[Electra and Orestes]

(Ari)

[Electra and Orestes]

Anyone have a good read on Antihero

Obvious town read...

Mine.

Also, you people really like to hear yourselves talk don't you!?

I came back to, like 15 new pages! Most of this is useless shit. Honestly, I skimmed the last half do hard I think I skipped a couple entire pages because it was all the same people arguing the same shit not changing anything about the game.

Momo is scum. M&M is prolly town. LQ is Def town. Uzi is seemingly the best 3p candidate, should an SK exist. KTS actually did aight in his entrance. These are mostly reads from this head because Alisae isn't motivated to read a game where literally half the pages are bullshit!

And Uzi, I got mad at Momo because he ignored. I had just posted the info he asked for a page earlier and he couldn't be arsed to check it out. He had been explained to how to Iso but refused to. He was told how to quote from offside but waited until LQ and I asked him like 3-5 times before telling me he couldn't, or even acknowledging I'd asked. I had every right to be peeved!

And his whole thing with somehow fucking up on phrasing with Anti is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever seen!

His read on M&M is shit and he is instigating him while not listening to the fact that this is just RC and not AI in any way.

He is pissing me off and is probably scum.

Also, Inb4 "Ari is angry? That's not his meta at all! Must be scum!"
My response is that it's almost 4am and I just spent at least an hour reading your bullshit pages that left me no further in my understanding of anyone (except KTS who hadn't posted until this juncture).

Creature, feel free to push your vs idea that I'm scum. I saw you allude to it a few times when you did post (I assume I'm the active scum member you mused about). You have no case

and

are wrong, so get better at reading me alright!

I don't remember where my vote is at all after all this, but
VOTE: Momo
This is where our vote is now.
It will not change unless deadline requires it or Alisae comes in with something groundbreaking.
I don't think either will happen.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Oh, and

this hydra is going V/LA until Thursday.

I'm too busy for this shit.
I'll post from class or work if I can.

[Electra and Orestes]

Hey ETL!!!

Yeah, good luck on the read through!
LQ vs RC hurt my head so much I had to take a nap mid read #TrueStory
Then this last chunk with LQ, RC, KTS, and Momo is mind numbing.

So, welcome to the chaos! Enjoy your stay.
And tell me your thoughts on the four I mentioned above. I'd like to know your thoughts. Creature and Uzi are other people of interest atm, but I don't want to ask too much of you right off the bat.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Uzi feels episode if there is one. Creature is so off that it hurts and his half-assed push on us really solidifies it for me!

[Electra and Orestes]

I came in to say that I like ETL and that I like that he recongized that Creature is scum like me and Ari did
I also came in to say that I haven't read the majority of what's going on because people are shitting up the thread and it annoys me. (inb4 I'm lurking and I'm not reading what's going on like I did in Spyro).
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Uzi feels

episode

SK

if there is one.

Creature is so off that it hurts and his half-assed push on us really solidifies it for me!

What?

fixed. I don't know how that happened.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

I voted E&O because Aristophanes is usually more passive as town, don't remember him ever saying things like "this is scum period"

I'm more aggressive in hydrae. That's just how it is.

I'm not interested in speaking with rude people, especially rude people I believe to be scum.

EO

- if you agree with me on Creature, why are you not voting him?

Because this head here has been focused on Momo too much.

VOTE: Creature

I will gladly vote Momo though if that is the day's wagon of choice. Both are in my limited lynch pool.

- O

Hoooooly ninjas!

[Electra and Orestes]

Guys I am telling you that if you investigate me I will come out town. So just wait one game day.

Hey buddy. Help me understand something real quick. A few things for that matter.
A. Why would a cop out an inno on you?
B. Considering the possibility of an SK who decided to chose investigation proof (or GF), why would a cop inno even mean anything?
C. Why would any cop want to make you conftown? I can think of many other people here whom if they got cleared, them being cleared could be put to good use.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Like that's why I fucking hate you and momo it's because you're both so fucking self righteous about being bad at the game. Acting like we should take you seriously or something.
People caring about your reads is a priviledge, not a right, and having the attitude that you should lynch me because I happen to be good at scum even though I'm a billion times better than you at town as well doesn't get you taken seriously. And no my play isn't bad; everyone in this game knows that I'm a better scumhunter than you. fuck off.

*Hugs RC*
Don't let him get to you. This is what he wants!

does everyone want a new IC?

etl's thing is to motivate me so i took that but now i feel like i'm doing something wrong and i don't really know what it is.

*Hugs Anti*
We want you here and love that you are IC! You're doing a fine job, don't worry

Momo, I think we're L-1
VOTE: Momo

If you have a claim to make, do it now.

Every Goddard time there are ninjas!
Oh well, it reminds me to sign at least.
- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Also, I didn't see that this was anger at LQ too, not just Momo...sorry if I just started shit :S

I think both of you are great players who have veeeeery different playstyle a.
Please try to get along?
We don't need anymore pages of useless argumentation!

- O
More ninjas.

[Electra and Orestes]

Ya know what,

*Hugs LQ*

You need one too

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

And here i thought that my 1v1s were heated... now it's kinda awkward to see it from the other side for once.

I only saw you get heated once iirc. Wasn't that bad, though I thought it out of character.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

I mean, if not for the strangulation, I don't think anyone would be opposed.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Welp!
UNVOTE:

Not worth.

Etl, you said you want an invest on Creature possibly. I'd rather we just vote them off.
VOTE: Creature

As I said, Momo and Creature were my two possibilities for today, and this hasn't changed (except for giving Momo a chance).
Any protection should also be on him, not Anti tn. As much as I want IC Anti to live a long game life with us, it's simply not the optimal play here

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

btw Creature's posts lack all sorts of motivation and drive hence why he should be lynched. Here have some meta and just look at these ISOs real quickly.
viewtopic.php?p=8012302&user_select%5B% ... 4#p8012302
viewtopic.php?p=8683233&user_select%5B% ... 4#p8683233

If ya look at Creature's ISO it's the exact same thing: Lack of motivation and drive.
So can we kill it already instead of padding out the thread 20+ pages.
Mail and Mall aren't going to get wagoned and even if they did both Postie and RC are good enough to provide a reaction that people will like, so trying to lynch them right now is just not going to happen. Kay thanks.
-Electra

[Electra and Orestes]

What kind of shit is this?

It's called recongizing good players.
-Ali

[Electra and Orestes]

What kind of shit is this?

It's called recongizing good players.
-Ali

Translation: Protecting a scum buddy.

Your reaction here is noted.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Also, you can compare my post count there.

Unmotivated town!me = Usually high post count
Unmotivated scum!me = Bam, one of the lowest post counts

tbh this kinda looks like townposting. Like I don't expect scum Creature to write this.
VOTE: LUV
1609 is what I say when I'm trying to bus someone. Plus you're using pre-flip associations here and I know you find that scummy.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

I endorse all of what Alisae says. We've been fairly on the same page all game and LUV is a fantastic vote. You guys should all join us!!

LQ, ETL and Anti already mentioned that they are besties. I find it extremely likely that their styles have rubbed off on each other. I also don't get why him making a post in the style of Anti would be voteworthy, nevermind scummy. Can you explain why please?

With this, I might go to bed too, since it's the theme of this page!

[Electra and Orestes]

I endorse all of what Alisae says. We've been fairly on the same page all game and LUV is a fantastic vote. You guys should all join us!!

LQ, ETL and Anti already mentioned that they are besties. I find it extremely likely that their styles have rubbed off on each other. I also don't get why him making a post in the style of Anti would be voteworthy, nevermind scummy. Can you explain why please?

With this, I might go to bed too, since it's the theme of this page!

I am agreeing with Alisae here, so I don't think I have to say it's Ari.
But it is.

[Electra and Orestes]

I don't endorse all of what Alisae says. We have not been on the same page all game and LUV is a horrible vote.

LQ, ETL and Anti already mentioned that they are besties. I find it extremely likely that their styles have rubbed off on each other. I also don't get why him making a post in the style of Anti would be voteworthy, nevermind scummy. Can you explain why please?

With this, I might go to bed too, since it's the theme of this page!

FTFY.

Nice try!

Keep on dreaming though

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

I don't think I even read the majority of this game.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

LQ the problem with that theory is I have scumgames completed now.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70078
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70313

[Electra and Orestes]

^Obv Ali btw^
pedit: What wiki

[Electra and Orestes]

The scumteam is in:
Hawk
Kop
LUV
Fitz

Just based off this sudden flashwagon.

Hawk and Kop are most likely not teamed. I don't think they would vote together in this situation.
Hawk's push on us looks oppertunistic and looks like he's looking for something to push.
Kop's vote is just oppertunistic, but what I find more concerning is that people are voting us over Kop. This is why I think our wagon is scum motivated.
Momo is town.
KTS' vote was actually decent, tho I did do a push on Creature but then back off immediately because I thought Creature wouldn't give the response he gave if he was scum.

That's that.
M&M is most likely town btw.
Fitz is gut tbh.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Oh yeah and LUV's vote is just complete, oppertunistic garbage.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Ari has words to say about this sudden flashwagon which we both agree is scum motivated,
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Ari has words to say about this sudden flashwagon which we both agree is scum motivated,
-Electra (Ali)

not even a flash wagon it's like 2 votes come on now

Spoiler: I counted 5 votes

Official Vote Count

Creature

(1): EspeciallyTheLies,

Music and Mail

(2): Lil Uzi Vert, Hawk

Hawk

(1): Killthestory

momo

(1): Kop

Lil Uzi Vert

(3): Music and Mail, Electra and Orestes, momo

killthestory

(2): Creature, LicketyQuickety

Not Voting

(3): havingfitz, Sakura Hana, Antihero

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-03-11 07:45:21)


Unofficial vote count.

So I'm thinking I may have been wrong giving E&O a townlean.

VOTE: E&O

They're basically sit on Momo all day from the beginning with very little actual reasoning besides he's playing poorly and won't link him to epic mafia etc. etc. nothing actually pushing the game forward in any other meaningful way. While I agreed heavily that I thought creature was playing off and not contributing upon inspection of creatures scum games I'm willing to give him a pass for today. I want to pull up some other conncerning posts by them but I'm at work so I'll go into more detail later.

UNVOTE: Momo

My vote sat there since early game, and sat there when I posted last night, and that was before the claim. I've read through quite a few pages to catch up.

LQ is town, theres no possible way I can see him being scum. Yes he has a lot of content in this thread, but he could be blending in, but I don't see with him being all over the place that will come from scum.

ETL is feeling town, but I have been done by her before because of her gamestyle. I'm relying on others who have a better understanding of her for the read on ETL.

Hana I'm reading as town.

Momo I'm not reading into right now, because I scum read him early on, so I'm going to wait till day 2 to see what he can provide in regards to his claim, if he can't back it up, then I'll be going to revisit this slot again.

Creature he can swing either way.

I would lynch within M n M, Hawk, Uzi, E and O, and Fitz right now.

But Fitz will be last in line for a lynch this day until he posts at least, and gives his views.

I don't think I even read the majority of this game.
-Electra (Ali)

I fail to see the excuse in this post.

VOTE: Electra and Orestes

Early doors I liked, but then the LQ/MnM happened, and reading through there ISO they are strikingly taking stances towards a few things but appear to be leaving themselves on the fence.

LUV, I am just sheeping onto you now but I do suspect that if there is a SK, you might be a possibility. This vote may come back but for now I am switching to E an O. Definitely want them to be brought to around L-3 so that they actually react to something. And not reading the whole thread...is this for real???? I am not SReading them b/c specific posts but because how they are playing the game in general. Unless E and O take this game seriously and show me (not tell me) a good reason for them to make it past the day, my vote will remain on them.

VOTE: E and O

god adMMIT my ISO was deleted

but ok so listen heres why EANDO have a good chance to be mafia. Their entrance was marked with defensiveness over aggression and scu!Ari and scu!Alisae (tho i know them not im assuming they're similar to ari with their passive play in general) would do that. passivity isnt a bad thing but they go out to look for people who are scumreading them instead of people TO scumread. terrible entrance.

lurking and other shit is bad. ari likes playing town im pretty sure so scummy. ari also makes good observations that have absolutely nothing to do with the game? hes not a stupid guy but his scumreads are so illogical and bland it's nothing compared to when ari really makes a push. it isn't aggressive, but it's logical. not feeling the same here. dude is just not doing much i'd expect him to regardless of if he's passive, y'know, and like, i just don't see anything townie there. i mean he points out early on momo might be an alt and that hawk posted some dumb shit, but he never really follows through with it?

alisae's not much better absolutely no pushes really wiht a bunch of questions from the both of them. you'd think a hydra between the two would be good activity but it's not. ai scummy indicative. lots and lots of fluff (lots of words with no content) and the content they bring out is either responses to questions or something vague with no expansion.

scummy VOTE: E&O

VOTE: Electra and Orestes

[Electra and Orestes]

oh i see.

so you're assuming quite literally everyone who voted you is scum very well

Nah you and Momo are town.
Fitz isn't voting me and I think he could be scum.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

I also outlined the one way I am removing my vote.

I'm not going to appease you. Sorry.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

I don't support any votes on EO or MM. Both feel very town to me. I'm good with either LUV or Creature.

VOTE: LUV

My problem with E&O is that Ali usually obvtowns it up to kingdom come and they have hardly posted at all and that has me thinking it could be cuz he's Scum.

Most of the game from what I'm concerned is you going back and forth between RC hydra and yourself and I think that's a TvT so I honestly don't want to read it, and my motivation for this game has been dead dry. Hence why I let Ari did most of the work while I sat in the background chiming in with reads on who could be scum or who is most likely town.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Its kind of like a 5 your old saying Mommy did not give me cake. She is evil....

Please narrow down your reads

Everyone can't be scum...

Though I am kind of suspecting Hawk....

LUV though is probably clear as of now. At least from me...

You're town.
Creature is town.
ETL is town.
Anti is town.
KTS is towm.
M&M is town.
Hana is town.
LQ is town.

That leaves LUV, Fitz, Kop, Hawk.
Why is LUV clear for you?
-Ali

[Electra and Orestes]

explain creature, lq, hana, luv, fitz, kop, and hawk.

luv is clear because he's town. i read his mind.

Creature response to my small push on him is towny.
LQ is obvtown and I'm not explaining this read.
Hana gut.
LUV is being more agreeable then what I expect from him and it's most likely because he's scum.
Fitz is PoE and mostly because we're getting wagoned over him.
Kop same reasoning as Fitz.
Hawk because I explained earlier, their vote on us is like they're looking for something to push.

This is not at all what I expect from Alisae's Town game. Not in the slightest.

VOTE: E&O

The tone is so different; its like its not even the same person.

Hey. Can you not put me at L-1 without Ari getting a chance to talk?
Kay thanks.

ETL is town.

???

I like their posts. To me they look like obvtown.
-Electra (Ali)
pedit: I would really like to post.
pedit2: I would really like to post.
pedit3: I would really like to post. And you put me at L-1 again. I'm at 6 and it takes 7 to lynch.
pedit4: I may replace out.

[Electra and Orestes]

lq i want to see a towngame

Why aren't you asking me for these?
nevertheless getting them for you.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Town:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69849
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69441

My approach to this game is a lot more like my approach to In Memory, just talk mostly in the hoods and occasionally appear in the main thread. Except here my hood is a Hydra PT with Ari.

Scum:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70078
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70313

-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

I can provide more towngames.
-Ali

[Electra and Orestes]

I can provide more towngames.
-Ali

I did a KTS ISO and looked at the first few posts of your ISO for the first Scum game you linked. Want to know the difference between your Town and Scum games?

Did you ISO Frosty Scales first? because I was hydraing before I split the hydra.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Day has ran its course. We need a flip at this point.

This is funny considering the fact that my town flip tells you nothing about the gamestate.
-Ali

[Electra and Orestes]

So I'm thinking I may have been wrong giving E&O a townlean.

VOTE: E&O

They're basically sit on Momo all day from the beginning with very little actual reasoning besides he's playing poorly and won't link him to epic mafia etc. etc. nothing actually pushing the game forward in any other meaningful way. While I agreed heavily that I thought creature was playing off and not contributing upon inspection of creatures scum games I'm willing to give him a pass for today. I want to pull up some other conncerning posts by them but I'm at work so I'll go into more detail later.

We had plenty of reasoning. And seriously, we're not pushing the game forward in a meaningful way!? You're saying this when more than half the game is LQ & RC having fucking NAI ego battles!? Actually ridiculous yo.

I was kinda thinking that E&O kinda got off easy for no real reason other than looking reasonable. I don't mind this vote.

We got off of what a little easily? This doesn't even make sense.

I don't think I even read the majority of this game.
-Electra (Ali)

Why not? You've been here since the beginning so there is really no excuse this time.

I had a tin foil hat theory a while back that Ali isn't posting because that hydra knows Ali is new and hasn't played Scum yet so they would be an easy Scum read.

Yeah...have you never seen my scumgame? If this were the case, I'd be the one lurking it out, because I'm legit one of the easiest people on this site to identify properly as scum.
And Alisae has been quite busy, so I've been updating him and we've bounced a lot of reads and ideas off each other behind the scenes. Who cares if he hasn't read one of the most digression-filled games I've ever seen! He wouldn't have gotten much out of 90% of it anyway!

UNVOTE: Momo

My vote sat there since early game, and sat there when I posted last night, and that was before the claim. I've read through quite a few pages to catch up.

LQ is town, theres no possible way I can see him being scum. Yes he has a lot of content in this thread, but he could be blending in, but I don't see with him being all over the place that will come from scum.

ETL is feeling town, but I have been done by her before because of her gamestyle. I'm relying on others who have a better understanding of her for the read on ETL.

Hana I'm reading as town.

Momo I'm not reading into right now, because I scum read him early on, so I'm going to wait till day 2 to see what he can provide in regards to his claim, if he can't back it up, then I'll be going to revisit this slot again.

Creature he can swing either way.

I would lynch within M n M, Hawk, Uzi, E and O, and Fitz right now.

But Fitz will be last in line for a lynch this day until he posts at least, and gives his views.

I don't think I even read the majority of this game.
-Electra (Ali)

I fail to see the excuse in this post.

VOTE: Electra and Orestes

Early doors I liked, but then the LQ/MnM happened, and reading through there ISO they are strikingly taking stances towards a few things but appear to be leaving themselves on the fence.

I don't have a clue what the last line about doors means.
What is your reason for voting us? Because Alisae hasn't read most of the game? That's a real cop-out reason.

LUV, I am just sheeping onto you now but I do suspect that if there is a SK, you might be a possibility. This vote may come back but for now I am switching to E an O. Definitely want them to be brought to around L-3 so that they actually react to something. And not reading the whole thread...is this for real???? I am not SReading them b/c specific posts but because how they are playing the game in general. Unless E and O take this game seriously and show me (not tell me) a good reason for them to make it past the day, my vote will remain on them.

VOTE: E and O

Momo, just...no. You aren't going to get much of a reaction, and we react to things addressed to us anyway. What about the general way we're playing has you scumreading us? and we have been taking the game seriously. I've been posting, we've been talking to figure reads out, and I've read the whole bloody thing (except the couple pages where I glazed over, as mentioned previously. They had no content anyway, so w/e). Neither of us are going to act any differently with a wagon on us from how we act normally, so you're not accomplishing a thing except running us up here.

I don't support any votes on EO or MM. Both feel very town to me. I'm good with either LUV or Creature.

VOTE: LUV

My problem with E&O is that Ali usually obvtowns it up to kingdom come and they have hardly posted at all and that has me thinking it could be cuz he's Scum.

Or maybe he's just been busy and demotivated from posting because this thread is a shit show that's really not worth reading.

- Here ends Page 69 -

I'll start a new post for whatever comes next.

[Electra and Orestes]

^^^ All Ari.
I'm doing a bit of a catchup.

Aaand Ninja'd!
Nice VC Realeo!

[Electra and Orestes]

Lol at the shit quickwagon. There's scum on that without a doubt!
Probably two realistically.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

god adMMIT my ISO was deleted

but ok so listen heres why EANDO have a good chance to be mafia. Their entrance was marked with defensiveness over aggression and scu!Ari and scu!Alisae (tho i know them not im assuming they're similar to ari with their passive play in general) would do that. passivity isnt a bad thing but they go out to look for people who are scumreading them instead of people TO scumread. terrible entrance.

lurking and other shit is bad. ari likes playing town im pretty sure so scummy. ari also makes good observations that have absolutely nothing to do with the game? hes not a stupid guy but his scumreads are so illogical and bland it's nothing compared to when ari really makes a push. it isn't aggressive, but it's logical. not feeling the same here. dude is just not doing much i'd expect him to regardless of if he's passive, y'know, and like, i just don't see anything townie there. i mean he points out early on momo might be an alt and that hawk posted some dumb shit, but he never really follows through with it?

alisae's not much better absolutely no pushes really wiht a bunch of questions from the both of them. you'd think a hydra between the two would be good activity but it's not. ai scummy indicative. lots and lots of fluff (lots of words with no content) and the content they bring out is either responses to questions or something vague with no expansion.

scummy VOTE: E&O

Okay, so ETL says the opposite. Are you two reading the same game?
And I believe I've been quite logical and at least active enough! Like, read me as you like, but I don't see how you came to these conclusions from our Iso.

VOTE: Electra and Orestes

You must be so proud of yourself. Wanna give a reason or are ya just gonna leave this naked?

@KTS, re: 1769, if your brain says we're scum, and our brain says Creature is scum, do you believe we are scum together?

Its kind of like a 5 your old saying Mommy did not give me cake. She is evil....

Please narrow down your reads

Everyone can't be scum...

Though I am kind of suspecting Hawk....

LUV though is probably clear as of now. At least from me...

You're town.
Creature is town.
ETL is town.
Anti is town.
KTS is towm.
M&M is town.
Hana is town.
LQ is town.

That leaves LUV, Fitz, Kop, Hawk.
Why is LUV clear for you?
-Ali

I'm just quoting this to say that I am totally with this readslist. Creature is more in the null for me than for Alisae, but the point stands, and I'm respecting that read unless I get info to contradict it.

This is not at all what I expect from Alisae's Town game. Not in the slightest.

VOTE: E&O

The tone is so different; its like its not even the same person.

LQ, please. I don't know what to say other than that you're wrong.
And I mean, we both obviously play tonally differently when in a hydra, since we're both apparently weird, not playing like ourselves, and different from our expected metas respectively.
The tone should be null in this case because of the hydra component.

explain creature, lq, hana, luv, fitz, kop, and hawk.

luv is clear because he's town. i read his mind.

Okay, I'm not accepting your townread on LUV without a clear reason if you won't accept our townreads without reason. Hypocrite!

pedit4: I may replace out.

You'd better not!
I need you here to help me figure shit out!!

Day has ran its course. We need a flip at this point.

Umm...no.
This is fucking scummy!

Day has ran its course. We need a flip at this point.

This is funny considering the fact that my town flip tells you nothing about the gamestate.
-Ali

Yeah, this totally looks like a Scum!Ali posts. Too bad you didn't want to know what the diff is between your Town and Scum game or you prolly wouldn't have made this post.

I can totally lynch E&O now, but I want to hear from Anti first.

Everyone wants to hear from Anti, nobody wants to hear from Ari. I see how it is

You're still wrong too, which is saddening to me because you're one of the town players I can see eventually carrying the game!

Oh look, I've gotten to my own posting!
And I've taken this whole pagetop area!!

Sorry about that

Also, I was going to Iso our wagoners, but I ran out of time tn. sorry about that!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

E&O, If you could day vig anyone right now, who would it be?

Either LUV or Kop.

Kop because of PoE and low postcount, so the slot would be an ideal Vig candidate.
LUV because he's scum and should die! But is probably going to be a lynch at some point, and one which gives info (unlike a Kop lurker lynch), so he gets second place.

I would, of course, discuss with Alisae first who we would choose. I'm positive one of these two would be the result though.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

I don't think I even read the majority of this game.
-Electra (Ali)

Why not? You've been here since the beginning so there is really no excuse this time.

I had a tin foil hat theory a while back that Ali isn't posting because that hydra knows Ali is new and hasn't played Scum yet so they would be an easy Scum read.

ragingspammers from spyro would beg to differ viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70313

Can you give me the tl;dr?

From me or from Anti or from RC if he's willing to give one?
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

i grant you the sooper special IC permission to do a tl;dr, ali

Kay.

Well my side of the story of that game is D1 I was wagonned super hard but then Inf replaced in and Inf, RC, and Gin decided to all get into arguements that lead into RC powerlynching obvtown Gin (I lurked during the RC v Inf v Gin TvTvT)

D2 RC just gaveup and was quicklynched.
D3 I played the too scummy to be scum card because I thought I was going to get lynched D3 because I have no confidence in my scumgame, and somehow didn't get lynched that day because no one knew how to lead the town. Lane tried but didn't do a really good job.
D4 Mylo I somehow convince everyone to vote Not_Mafia and scum!Leon hammered him and we just won.
-Ali

[Electra and Orestes]

I mean, Charloux was a nonentity and you're catching up still. That's literally a PoE read.
Notice that you aren't top of the list in any way.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

@Anti, I am not liking Kop either and would be willing to compromise on him but after E and O's blatant disregard of my wishes, they are my #1 vote

What did we not comply with exactly?
You voted us for pressure reactions. We reacted to the votes.

I've expressed my issues with M&M, E&O, and Hana. If you want my reasoning for them again, just ask.

All 3 are town, but please, I'd love to know! Especially the reasons for Sakura and ourselves.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Anyway M&M never replied to my question about the wking and seem to have fallen down into nowhere, im not 100% sure i wanna vote Uzi right now because of that.

That's cute an all.
But it's RC and Postie.
I'm pretty sure they aren't going to get lynched D1 if they're scum regardless.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

I'm not saying they shouldn't answer your question because they definitely should.
I'm just saying they aren't going to get lynched today.

And it's RC and Postie. It'll be way easier to attempt to sort them late game if they're around.
Plus my SRs are Kop, Fitz, Hawk, and LUV and because of that I think M&M is most likely town because I'm confident in my reads.
-Electra (Ali)
pedit: Yes. It is. Good job.
pedit2: They'll most likely generate a towny reaction upon getting wagoned.

[Electra and Orestes]

LQ has no business in saying

Ali has no business saying "because its RC and Potsie" because Ali doesn't have the experience to say such.

because LQ doesn't have the experience to say such.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Also Sakura not all of the scum are going to suddenly decide to gang up on momo.
Just sayin.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

LQ has no business in saying

Ali has no business saying "because its RC and Potsie" because Ali doesn't have the experience to say such.

because LQ doesn't have the experience to say such.
-Electra (Ali)

Point out to me in a game where you have done this kind of snarky comeback as Town.

/me points to Open 677: See Nayne Ples Ples.
Point out to me a game where I have done this kind of snarky comeback as Scum?
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

LQ has no business in saying

Ali has no business saying "because its RC and Potsie" because Ali doesn't have the experience to say such.

because LQ doesn't have the experience to say such.
-Electra (Ali)

Point out to me in a game where you have done this kind of snarky comeback as Town.

/me points to Open 677: See Nayne Ples Ples.
Point out to me a game where I have done this kind of snarky comeback as Scum?
-Electra (Ali)

I don't see how that is a proper argument.

I don't see how that is a proper argument.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

What are we gonna go do now?

Lynch LUV!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

My name is Thor.
And look at my mighty hammer!
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
-Electra

[Electra and Orestes]

My name is Thor.
And look at my mighty hammer!
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
-Electra

This is like a Scum claim. No mention of intent, no claim.

This looks p bad for you Ali.

Says the person who put them at L-1.
They asked for a hammer
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

My name is Thor.
And look at my mighty hammer!
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
-Electra

This is like a Scum claim. No mention of intent, no claim.

This looks p bad for you Ali.

Says the person who put them at L-1.
They asked for a hammer
-Electra (Ali)

I never asked for a hammer, what are you on?

Whatever it is, you should be asking for 1/16th of it.

I'm not claiming shit. Lynch me if y'all want.

-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Alisae is in this game?

Hello RC, how are you today?
-Electra (Alisae)

[Electra and Orestes]

VOTE: Kop

[Electra and Orestes]

Alright stop. I actually think that E&O might be scum. Alisae is playing way closer to their scum meta than their town meta atm.

Alisae, talk to me. What are your reads, who do you think is scum, etc?

Okay RC. TBH I've been really unmotivated this whole game and I've been behind the scenes talking to Ari about reads.
So far me and Ari both agree that scum is in Hawk, Fitz, LUV, Kop.
Ari nullreads Creature while I townread Creature
And everyone else is most likely town.

For LUV, I really do not buy their AtE when they were at L-1.
For Kop, I find it interested that me and Ari suddenly had a flashwagon over Kop, who was basicly doing the exact same thing we were doing.
For Fitz, it's mostly just PoE but I don't like how they are reacting to the Kop wagon.
For Hawk, I find it interesting that they started a flashwagon on me and Ari > Kop.

-Electra

[Electra and Orestes]

There's a bit more about LUV too.
Their sudden scumread on me and Ari is really concerning to me.
They've mostly been really agreeable this game.
Like right now I don't think LUV is town.
-Ali

[Electra and Orestes]

Why are we voting M&M?

We're not voting M&M!

And who is Superhans?

[Electra and Orestes]

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Sorry guys I've been having a hard time really committing time for this game.

Wowie me too!
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

I mean, most of the conversations are pointless and we have no reason to respond to them, and they drown 9ut everything else.

Creature thinking active members are mostly town is a relatively easy stance, but it's not necessarily wrong, and I am more inclined to agree with his reads atm. The active members will die out as the game progresses anyway and those left will be more easily sorted than the quiet ones, so I say leave them be for now. The whole thing about a Doc quickhammer was tangential and really just could have been explained as WIFOM, but whatever.

I'll vote within the pool Alisae and I have agreed upon, and am unlikely to deviate from it.

Not much else to say.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

ETL Scum and Kop Town??

At least our read on LQ was good.

Gotta rethink this game. Why are both Momo and Anti alive??

Why the immediate votes on M&M?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

I saw this claim bullshit and I can say with certainty that KTS is scum now!!!

Let's see, Momo is 1-shot Cop, claimed. KTS directly counterclaimed him, seemingly without knowing there can only be one in the setup. Momo is for sure 1-shot, yes?
LTS claimed he got "Antitown" in purple as an alignment for Hawk, the supposed Doc. Cops get Mafia or Not Mafia, or No Result I guess, as results, not "Antitown" and not usually in purple, especially since mafia have flipped Red.

KTS is either SK making a horrible gambit or scum with a team that isn't very bright/missed the "only one 1-shot cop" possibility for C9++!

VOTE: KTS

This vote is not moving.

Also, KTS should be calling for Momo's head, as a direct counterclaim, and yet isn't? I think he somehow missed that claim and mucked this up really badly for himself!

That's all. I'm out for the night. Will read the rest of the last 5 pages or so later.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Will somebody claim dayvig??

Or was it a serial killer playing a gambit???

By dayvig you mean regular vig, yes?

Momo, are you still claiming 1-shot cop?

[Electra and Orestes]

Will somebody claim dayvig??

Or was it a serial killer playing a gambit???

By dayvig you mean regular vig, yes?

Momo, are you still claiming 1-shot cop?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

That answers my question!

VOTE: Mono

Obviously a Fakeclaim to draw out a counterclaim.
I swear I'm good at this game...

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

That answers my question!

VOTE: Mono

Obviously a Fakeclaim to draw out a counterclaim.
I swear I'm good at this game...

- O

What's that supposed to mean??

Realeo is at another party again so probably not.

how many parties does he go to my god

Oh to be young again!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

RIP KTS!

well done though!

Who is the final scum?

[Electra and Orestes]

RIP KTS!

well done though!

Who is the final scum?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

We've found all of the scum. We're just looking for the SK now.

I forgot about ETL TBH.

I believe we suspected LUV SK since D1 but I want to reread his shit and talk to Alisae first.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

So, I havent done that Iso thing, but have talked to Alisae and we are in full agreement here.

VOTE: LUV

This should just about do it methinks.

[Electra and Orestes]

Hi Alisae, why were you lurking earlier? It felt like you weren't playing this game at all.

I ... have talked to Alisae

Not quite the same person.
He's still just not into the game enough to post really, but is fantastic to bounce thoughts off of!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Also, we have limited PR potential left, but what are people's thoughts on roleclaims for them? We should then be able to either PoE one of the PRs (if there are too many points allotted from the claims) or from the VTs. This makes the hunt a lot easier!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

What do you think about Sakura Hana?

They've seemed towny from what I remember, but like, not really a think to be noted much this game. I think I even Iso'd her before and forget everything she's done. I'll have to do that again I guess.

[Electra and Orestes]

Alright let's play mafia btw someone wanna tell me why the IC isn't dead yet?
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Anyone have anything they want to talk to me about while I'm here?
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

hmmmmmmmmmmm....
I'm debating on pushing Creature for RC since RC died.
Will talk with Ari.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

So, I havent done that Iso thing, but have talked to Alisae and we are in full agreement here.

hmmmmmmmmmmm....
I'm debating on pushing Creature for RC since RC died.
Will talk with Ari.
-Electra (Ali)

well...

this is some hydra dynamic you two got going on here...

I got home and got more into the game.
I told Ari "Fitz or LUV" while I was busy at a really important thing and not thinking about the game.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

How to win a video game.
Step 1. Identify town!RC [×]
Step 2. Identify RC's reads [×]
Step 3. Push and lynch RC's SRs VOTE: Creature [×]
Step 4. Get them lynched. [ ]
Step 5. ??? [ ]
Step 6. Profit. [ ]
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

So, I havent done that Iso thing, but have talked to Alisae and we are in full agreement here.

hmmmmmmmmmmm....
I'm debating on pushing Creature for RC since RC died.
Will talk with Ari.
-Electra (Ali)

well...

this is some hydra dynamic you two got going on here...

I got home and got more into the game.
I told Ari "Fitz or LUV" while I was busy at a really important thing and not thinking about the game.
-Electra (Ali)

But now we are both taking more interest here (I've actually switched to the more busy one I think) so we're honing in far better!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

VOTE: Creature

This guy gets it.
btw Fitz is most likely town.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

anti I'll give you a biscuit if you vote Creature
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Lynch Order should be Creature, NL/LUV.

Not really any other choices.

Fitz is an outside chance, but I only have stale scum meta with him.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Lynch Order should be Creature, NL/LUV.

Error: Mislynch target is too town.

I assume you are implicating yourself as the "too town" "mislynch" here?

_L

[Electra and Orestes]

Lynch Order should be Creature, NL/LUV.

Error: Mislynch target is too town.

I assume you are implicating yourself as the "too town" "mislynch" here?

_L

- O

O clicked wrong buttons...

[Electra and Orestes]

Why am I scum?

RC said so and died.

Plus, you or Luv are really the only two who make any sense!

Plus plus, Alisae and I agree, and we are a pretty sweet duo, so this shit is happening!

I don't feel like making other reasons and whatnot, but I can if you like.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Oh nice, so if I turn out to be town and you're town, will you not just blindly trust RC anymore?

I mean, he's actually pretty reliable in this eay. But I always try to consider his stances befor I sheeple them.

This one is half-decent!

-O

[Electra and Orestes]

prodge.

Such Insight
Very wow

[Electra and Orestes]

We have our lunches, abs SK is hard to hunt. Can we not do this already?

- Drunk O

[Electra and Orestes]

Feeling very meh.
Want a lynch.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Wooooo, , Prods!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

This is a hammer!
VOTE: LUV
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Anti, the set up is CCCTTTM
VOTE: No Lynch

[Electra and Orestes]

I mean like, I can claim VT for you if you want.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Oh wait nvm 2537 I'm bad at this game.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Anti, the set up is CCCTTTM
VOTE: No Lynch

why vote no lynch?

It's mylo, no?
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Yeah, no point in a NL Alisae. We have a 50/50 chance either way!

[Electra and Orestes]

Yeah, no point in a NL Alisae. We have a 50/50 chance either way!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

UNVOTE:
Ah okay.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Me either

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Prodding E&O

Oh hey, that's us.

Immediately...I haven't had time do look at anything yet. Probably by Thursday? Sorry for being shitty and making a sucky MYLO, I'm just too busy to properly sort this game atm.

Also, I can link you to a White Flag game that just ended where Alisae rolled us as a scum hydra if you like. He did most of the talking there and it's drastically different than this from is.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Sigh...
I feel kinda bummed out, i thought the game was in the bag and now i have no idea.

Fucking same yo!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Absolutely!

He was in Siblings Quarrel here

Fun game, but very different Alisae than here.

[Electra and Orestes]

Guyz Ari can self-meta for me
we must be AMAZING at this game.
-Ali

[Electra and Orestes]

You're, like, a day early with these Prods Realeo

I know the thread is somewhat dead and that I am partially to blame. Once I'm done a paper, which will be on Saturday, I can get back here in full force!

Lease forgive my absence until then!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Received.
Walking home at almost 3am and drink atm, but will do shit before I sleep I guess.

Fuck.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Yeah, Alisae and I seem to be in agreement, and reading Isos literlally gave mo nothing but that Fitz has stuck on us most of the game and Sakura stuck to appeasing me for an easy reciprocative townread.
I don't think Sakura is SK though, despite mentioning SK really early in the game. So I thing Fitz is the way to go!

VOTE: Fitz

I'll try to be here more if needed, but I don't have much else to say/

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

idon't really know tbh, but what I do know is that I genuinely buy your apathy. As in it reads genuine to me and it looks like is coming from town so...
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Why are you posturing here? ;~;
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

I feel like Fitz is the SK here but Sakura is showing red flags and it's scaring me. ;~;
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Welp!

Anti, pls.
We just need to make a lynch happen today! The only reason you're being bugged is because you're conftown. I don't think anyone is going to change what they think at this point so there's no point delaying things!

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

Like, I 100% get the frustration and it sucks that we've all placated. But making one more phase isn't going to change that!

[Electra and Orestes]

Vote Fitz with us!
If Sakura doesn't quickhammer, we know she is town and then you only need to sort Fitz and I, and I know that we are town so it's 100% FitzScum for us then.

Thoughts?

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

So did E&O.

yeah, e+o thinks it's fitz after i think it's fitz

ain't that swell?

We thought Fitz a while ago, but it was time for action on it is all.

- O

[Electra and Orestes]

This would've been many times easier if someone was scumreading me for any reason u.u

I mean, we're not 100% on you, but you read genuine.

[Electra and Orestes]

Why are you posturing here? ;~;
-Electra (Ali)

I rather be posturing than vote wrong.
I can't seriously believe how you can vote someone on MyLo and not feel nervous of being wrong.

Fine. I accept this.

And look. It's mylo. Usually I do feel nervous. And I try to look for pairings. And I try to solve that way. But there's a point where you gotta feel confident in your TRs. Like in some lylos I recently came out of, I was super nervous and paranoid and I made a really bad decision and boom! Game loss.
Right now this sorta feels like In Memory. In that game it was a lylo between Jae, me, and dreal and I tr'd Jae so PoE suggested dreal. So I vote dreal. dreal even did a super scummy push that looks like he's pulling out of his ass to push me. It was hilarious. Town won that game.
Also sorta feels like Witch Trial's Lylo. Me, dreal, and Persivul. I TR'd dreal, so Persivul must be scum. But dreal QUICKVOTED me and robbed me of my voice.

I just feel good about my TR in you. That's all.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

legit questions:

what am i supposed to be doing when all you three are doing is lurking?

how am i supposed to tell which two of you are town?

i'm open to any suggestions.

I'm here right now. Talk to us.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

We just need to make a lynch happen today! The only reason you're being bugged is because you're conftown. I don't think anyone is going to change what they think at this point so there's no point delaying things!

well holy fuck i wish i knew what ppl thought

I feel like we both described how we feel about Sakura to make us TR her (BTW love your Avi)
What more do you want from us, god?
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

If Sakura doesn't quickhammer, we know she is town and then you only need to sort Fitz and I, and I know that we are town so it's 100% FitzScum for us then.

sakura has given me no reason to think she's town

Talk to us about Sakura then.
Put your thoughts here!
TALK TO US!
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

(bonus points if you know where the avi's from)

I feel like I should because I recongize it but I don't and now I feel bad.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

UNVOTE:
Talking to Ari
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Me and Ari don't really know where to go, so I don't think we'll be placing a vote today.
I want Anti to get his thoughts out before the day ends.
All of them.
Consider it a last will.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Fitz it's mostly that I'm unsure about things right now and I rather talk to Ari before I feel confident in placing a vote. If that makes sense.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

honestly i'm not even 100% convinced it's not e+o. this hydra dynamic is weird

Talk to me more about this?
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

when is this summitnw ari going to happen...?

?
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

Fitz that appeal comes off as genuine to me.
idunno me and Ari have to think about lots of things. Like right now Ari thinks Sakura's anger doesn't look Genuine but he also doesn't like your push.
-Electra (Ali)

[Electra and Orestes]

We've made decent progress but need to look at more during the night.
Sorry for dragging this out everyone!!!

Inb4 we get nightkilled and this all goes into Anti to figure out :S

- Ari

[Electra and Orestes]

I mean
" - O"

Oh well.