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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:52 pm

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Sakura Hana.
I started scum reading her very early on when I noticed her tone dramatically shift after her opening posts. In and , her tone is serious and sharp as she comes out with guns blazing by stating that she thinks Creature and Percy are town. In , the same tone is present as she questions LQ's assessment on a question I had asked the mod. However, shortly after, her tone dramatically changes. Compare , , and, to her opening posts. I don't have the words to describe it but there is definitely a tonal shift there. Now why is this of concern and something I made a note of? Well, just take a look at her and . In the first post, she states that she's feeling awkward due to having just come off from a long hiatus. In the second, she's explaining why she jumped on to the M&M wagon. What I see in these posts however is a lot of explaining and justifying that feels forced. It reads like she's trying to sell that awkwardness that she just made known due to the reaction from M&M. I don't buy that she's having such a hard time due to how she opened up the game.

The second reason why I'm scum reading her is because of her read on the E&O slot. She says she town reads them because someone told them in another game that Ari lurks as scum and she's not seeing that here. There's a few problems with this town read. One, she claims someone told her about Ari's meta. Now if she says she was on a long hiatus, why isn't she more concerned that Ari may have drastically changed his game in her absence? Why isn't trying to do her due diligence? The second problem is, the game just started. Who's to say Ari doesn't plan to lurk and coast after Day 1? There just isn't enough of a sample size to determine if Ari is lurking or not. The third problem is, the E&O is a hydra. Ali was fairly inactive during the time of my interactions with Hana. How can she have such a confident read on the slot just based off one head?

E&O.
and why they're scum reading me is my reasons for scum reading Orestes. I can't recall him ever calling me scum with any conviction. All he's saying is that my play is exactly how an SK would play. There are a few problems with this. He's scum reading me for how he thinks serial killers play. He's not going off a trend or established meta, just how he thinks the SK plays. Second, why the emphasis on SK? If you don't think I'm town, just say that then. Every time he mentioned me as possibly being a SK, all I saw in my head was a guy who didn't want to seriously commit to calling me scum and pushing me. My reasons for scum reading Electra come for why he's scum reading and his poor defense of M&M. In , they're scum reading me and vote me for my . The first part of the reasoning given for why he found my scummy is because it is something he sees himself doing as scum. I don't even think I have to explain the problem with that. The second reason is pre-flip associations. Unless the definition of pre-flip associations overnight, I'm definitely not doing that there.

Now the M&M defending. Electra has said a quite a few times now that there is no point in going after M&M because they're likely to give a town response to them being wagoned. This is odd to me considering this is very similar to how Music has been barking that everyone should town read them. It also doesn't make sense because forcing M&M to give a response is how the game is played. We determine if the responses to being wagoned and the cases on them are genuine or not. Why Electra doesn't want to do this is beyond me?

M&M.
I've scum read this slot since the beginning and it is the only slot I really want gone today. As I stated earlier, Music seems more focused on proving people right than actually scum hunting. They seem to be using their anger as a means of control and a way to ware us down as time goes on. Their scum reads, the biggest and most notable in Hawk are based off of NAI reasons and the cases we've asked for, have not been provided.
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:29 pm

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Why have you provided the least amount of reasons for the person you want most gone in the game @Uzi?
I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!

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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:24 pm

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Okay, you all suck at wagoning.
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:28 pm

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First, find a player that's flying under the radar.

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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:29 pm

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Second, vote them.

VOTE: Kop
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:29 pm

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In post 1927, Creature wrote:Okay, you all suck at wagoning.
How come everything you say is so incredibly vague?
I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!

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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:29 pm

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Third, convince some players to join (you can't really convince all scum anyway).

Hey, guys, let's wagon Kop
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:31 pm

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In post 1931, Creature wrote:Third, convince some players to join (you can't really convince all scum anyway).

Hey, guys, let's wagon Kop
Meh, I'm fine voting Kop.

VOTE: Kop

Sakura, want to get in on this great action?
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:47 pm

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In post 1926, LicketyQuickety wrote:Why have you provided the least amount of reasons for the person you want most gone in the game @Uzi?
I provided the same amount. I just didn't quote posts or anything because the play literally speaks for itself.
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:59 pm

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I've scum read this slot since the beginning and it is the only slot I really want gone today. As I stated earlier, Music seems more focused on proving people right than actually scum hunting. They seem to be using their anger as a means of control and a way to ware us down as time goes on. Their scum reads, the biggest and most notable in Hawk are based off of NAI reasons and the cases we've asked for, have not been provided.
Can die regardless of alignment but probscum.
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:01 am

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In post 1934, RadiantCowbells wrote:
I've scum read this slot since the beginning and it is the only slot I really want gone today. As I stated earlier, Music seems more focused on proving people right than actually scum hunting. They seem to be using their anger as a means of control and a way to ware us down as time goes on. Their scum reads, the biggest and most notable in Hawk are based off of NAI reasons and the cases we've asked for, have not been provided.
Can die regardless of alignment but probscum.
Also I honestly don't townread the Aristo hydra but I hate the wagon on them so this is the lynch today.
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:38 am

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In post 1935, Music and Mail wrote:
In post 1934, RadiantCowbells wrote:
I've scum read this slot since the beginning and it is the only slot I really want gone today. As I stated earlier, Music seems more focused on proving people right than actually scum hunting. They seem to be using their anger as a means of control and a way to ware us down as time goes on. Their scum reads, the biggest and most notable in Hawk are based off of NAI reasons and the cases we've asked for, have not been provided.
Can die regardless of alignment but probscum.
Also I honestly don't townread the Aristo hydra but I hate the wagon on them so this is the lynch today.
Why are you stopping your push on Hawk?
I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!

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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:34 am

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In post 1927, Creature wrote:Okay, you all suck at wagoning.
Says the guy on a wagon all alone.
In post 1928, Creature wrote:First, find a player that's flying under the radar.

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Says the guy who doesn't know activity isn't a good alignment indicator.
In post 1929, Creature wrote:Second, vote them.

VOTE: Kop
Says the guy ignoring the two largest wagons.




I have limited game experience with Kop but he has done this in all my games with him. I.e. not post enough.
Kop
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:43 am

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In post 1937, havingfitz wrote:Says the guy on a wagon all alone.
Correction: ...the guy who wants to lynch scum
Says the guy who doesn't know activity isn't a good alignment indicator.
Correction: ...the guy who doesn't ignore someone just because their inactivity is NAI
Says the guy ignoring the two largest wagons.
Correction: ...the guy who thinks the two largest wagons aren't on scum
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:52 am

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In post 1933, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1926, LicketyQuickety wrote:Why have you provided the least amount of reasons for the person you want most gone in the game @Uzi?
I provided the same amount. I just didn't quote posts or anything because the play literally speaks for itself.
I don't like this answer, nope, nope, nope.
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:09 am

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In post 1938, Creature wrote:
In post 1937, havingfitz wrote:Says the guy on a wagon all alone.
Correction: ...the guy who wants to lynch scum
So you think KTS is scum (ex. "you want to lynch scum") but you move to the wagon on the guy with 5 posts. :igmeou:
In post 1938, Creature wrote:
In post 1937, havingfitz wrote:
Says the guy who doesn't know activity isn't a good alignment indicator.
Correction: ...the guy who doesn't ignore someone just because their inactivity is NAI
So you say inactivity is NAI but you move to the guy with 5 posts. Other than activity (cause he isn't active anywhere)...why is Kop scum?
In post 1938, Creature wrote:
In post 1937, havingfitz wrote:
Says the guy ignoring the two largest wagons.
Correction: ...the guy who thinks the two largest wagons aren't on scum
In post 181, Creature wrote:VOTE: Electra and Oreos
In post 236, Creature wrote:VOTE: Electra and Orestes
In post 450, Creature wrote:VOTE: LUV
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:39 am

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Kop needs to post more, KTS idk.

I want him sorted.

Nice, picking votes that aren't even past page 20.
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:41 am

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don;t mind voting KOP but would still prefer an E and O lynch or a LUV lynch. If deadline comes I am willing to compromise but still....
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:15 am

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A pre-emptive prod has been sent for Kop and I also pre-emptively looking for replacement
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:52 am

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Oh nvm, he's being replaced.
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:53 am

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What are we gonna go do now?
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:42 am

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I liked Kop's last post. I'm more concerned with ETL and Fitz.
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:47 am

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In post 1945, Creature wrote:What are we gonna go do now?
Lynch LUV!

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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:49 am

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Can someone give me a reason why they think I'm scum other than lack of engagement and meta?
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:41 am

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In post 1936, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1935, Music and Mail wrote:
In post 1934, RadiantCowbells wrote:
I've scum read this slot since the beginning and it is the only slot I really want gone today. As I stated earlier, Music seems more focused on proving people right than actually scum hunting. They seem to be using their anger as a means of control and a way to ware us down as time goes on. Their scum reads, the biggest and most notable in Hawk are based off of NAI reasons and the cases we've asked for, have not been provided.
Can die regardless of alignment but probscum.
Also I honestly don't townread the Aristo hydra but I hate the wagon on them so this is the lynch today.
Why are you stopping your push on Hawk?
LUV doing absolutely nothing of note besides pushing on me makes me put them as a higher priority lynch than Hawk even though I think Hawk is more likely to be scum.
Also that 'can we just lynch M&M' line is policy lynchable even if I didn't scumread them.

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