Open 675: Pick Your Power X/Y (Game Over!)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wait lemme aestheticify that

[gigabyteTroubadour]

this was a lot funnier in my head

[gigabyteTroubadour]

asdfsajdkfhsadkf

[gigabyteTroubadour]

penguins are amphibians!!

they live both in and out of water

guys!!!!!

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i figured as much dave so my answer is the same as before

[gigabyteTroubadour]

lynching the guilty means we avoid the possibility of a non-rb'd 1-shot vig and KTS shooting wrong

i'm also pretty sure i know who the guilty is on too

[gigabyteTroubadour]

1) his guilty was obviously on nancy
2) you wouldn't have been nightkilled if you shut up and let us lynch Penguin

yeah this :/

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wow

the scum i've been trying to lynch since D1

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Titus (5): PenguinPower, Prince Lyon, Transcend, Persivul, gigabyteTroubadour
Spade Ace (4): Killthestory, schadd_, Titus, WhemePlay
alban (1): bangthemafia
bangthemafia (1): Dunnstral

Not Voting (3): alban, davesaz, Spade_Ace,

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day ends in (expired on 2017-03-04 02:03:00).

alban is on V/LA until 2/23.


In post 451, aronagrundy wrote:
Vote Count 1.5
Titus (5): PenguinPower, Prince Lyon, Persivul, gigabyteTroubadour, davesaz
Spade Ace (3): schadd_, Titus, WhemePlay
alban (1): bangthemafia
bangthemafia (1): Dunnstral
davesaz (1): Transcend

Not Voting (3): alban, Spade_Ace, Killthestory

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day ends in (expired on 2017-03-04 02:03:00).

alban is on V/LA until 2/23.


In post 503, aronagrundy wrote:
Vote Count 1.6
Titus (5): PenguinPower, Prince Lyon, gigabyteTroubadour, davesaz, WhemePlay
davesaz (2): Transcend, bangthemafia
Spade Ace (2): schadd_, Titus
bangthemafia (1): Dunnstral

Not Voting (4): alban, Spade_Ace, Killthestory, Persivul

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day ends in (expired on 2017-03-04 02:03:00).

alban is on V/LA until 2/23.


There's literally zero chance of Titus being scum just based on this.

titus and nancy working so hard to hard-clear each other....

uzi calling us out for "hating on alban's playstyle"

is it SvS? i'm still leaning yes but i know you think nancy was bussing kts here so let's start here lyon

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Scum pool
Lyon > Spade > Giga > KTS

yeah i want to say this is all town too

If Titus is scum she's not the roleblocker and scum has a confirmed roleblocker. There's no reason to lynch Titus without a scum roleblocker flip.

no i agree 100% it's kts i'm worried about here

[gigabyteTroubadour]

honestly that nancy/kts interaction was fake af

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I'm here you know

lyon is the one who thinks it's kts over titus

[gigabyteTroubadour]

yeah nancy has to be the rb here

nancy and penguin are both disposable to the team (nancy was widely suspected, penguin was a cw to town during deadline and widely suspected too)

penguin as the rb just shoots schadd and titus claims a guilty on him

nancy replaced alban right?

yes

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh hey i get to be hardcleared from this flip basically too

that's nice

[gigabyteTroubadour]

lyon is blatant town penguin

i want nancy today

VOTE: nancy

[gigabyteTroubadour]

nancy isn't the roleblocker though. nancy killed schadd. do you think that scum would have sent their roleblocker to kill the likely watch target?
also do you think that scum went neighbourizer first pick and roleblocker second pick?

for the first point yes, there's nothing worth roleblocking

second maybe

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh kts nvm

UNVOTE:

[gigabyteTroubadour]

nancy isn't the roleblocker though. nancy killed schadd. do you think that scum would have sent their roleblocker to kill the likely watch target?
also do you think that scum went neighbourizer first pick and roleblocker second pick?

@cloud? ^

[gigabyteTroubadour]

3770 being true also heavily implies kts is town

[gigabyteTroubadour]

no

[gigabyteTroubadour]

nancy/pp are the only choices today

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i'm like

almost 100% sure it's titus/nancy/pp

[gigabyteTroubadour]

pp what do you think then

who are nancy's partners

nancy isn't the roleblocker though. nancy killed schadd. do you think that scum would have sent their roleblocker to kill the likely watch target?
also do you think that scum went neighbourizer first pick and roleblocker second pick?

@cloud? ^

i thought about this and it was also my first impression, at this point i prefer to go for a conf mefia than presumed rb

i'm trying to decide though if the risk in lynching a non-rb is worth it though because i don't want to NL

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I think we shouldn't lynch pp today.

On the off chance he's town, we have kts with a vig shot, titus to track penguinpower, and penguinpower to neighborize. Bang is the right lynch choich. or nancy.

what if bang is town

the roleblocker makes that useless

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also just because davesaz has a guilty doesn't mean he's dying 100% of the time

{giga, lyon, cloud, dunn, dave} townbloc is literally impossible to break here and there's no way there's scum in there

the roleblocker makes that useless

makes what useless? all of it at the same time? no....

if they block penguin again we get kts to shoot where we want

oh true

[gigabyteTroubadour]

the roleblocker makes that useless

makes what useless? all of it at the same time? no....

if they block penguin again we get kts to shoot where we want

^ lyon thoughts?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i like nancy too but she's scum and it felt fake idk what to tell you bruh

obviously nancy's stuff was way more likely faked/scummy/forced/over-the-top but

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Penguin isn't getting blocked. we lynch nancy we lose a mislynch and probably end up in a PP/KTS 1v1

right but titus has to claim a track, therefore verifying pp not going anywhere

we can handle a 1v1 situation with a ml

[gigabyteTroubadour]

right but titus has to claim a track, therefore verifying pp not going anywhere

hold on this isn't as dumb as it sounds

[gigabyteTroubadour]

right but titus has to claim a track, therefore verifying pp not going anywhere

hold on this isn't as dumb as it sounds

actually it is nvm

VOTE: penguin

i was going to argue that titus would have had to commit the kill and lie about tracking but that doesn't make sense

[gigabyteTroubadour]

yeah i just realized lyon

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Probs Titus...nancy/bang...and PL.

nancy is confscum

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Prince looks suspicious (page1-2)
Keep transcend in the game. No PL. He is useful in later rounds.

VOTE: Alban

Reads seem forced. I don't understand how they came to a scumread on me?

Omgus vote.

Lyon, I never actually said you are scummy. I said your posts were over the top and suspicious. They don't mean the same thing.

Giga, if you are talking about 181, I did not imply A. B, yes. It is totally an omgus vote. But that doesn't necessarily have to come from a scum.

I think both of you are trying hard to read and see what's not there. Also there's some kind of imitation going on, though i am not sure who is following whom. Your reasons for scumreading me are the exact same.

Pedit: will get back

If you're going to refuse to engage with us and cite disliking our style then we will just lynch you.

Well, that may very well be so, but PL of any sort is anti town. I am assuming that was a joke.

If you're going to refuse to engage with us and cite disliking our style then we will just lynch you.

Well, that may very well be so, but PL of any sort is anti town. I am assuming that was a joke.

It was not at all a joke? You are refusing to engage with us and refusing to give a reason besides that you dislike my play. That's insanely anti-town and if you continue being anti-town to make it harder for us to read you then yes I will policy lynch you regardless of my read on you; which already happens to be scum.

You started to tunnel, so I ignored. Stop spinning it around and making it my fault. Just as you get frustrated with wagons, i get annoyed with threats.

Giga, i will get back to your question later in the day. Abt language, english isn't my first language officially given the country i reside in, but for all practical purposes, i have no problem in communicating in English.

Okay, fair enough.
Titus vanishing for 48H and Alban not talking to me is really dumb and I feel like it was a strategic move to lurk out the game.

I think we mostly agree reads wise except that I'd put KTS/BTM lower and Dunn/Davesaz higher.

Can you go more into detail on BTM?

Lyon, I can't get clearer than this: I am telling you point blank that I am ignoring you due to your and Giga's combative posts. Giga dialled it down. If you want to have a meaningful dialogue, I suggest you do the same. Calling it dumb is fine; that's your opinion, but don't create a conjecture about the lurking part. Spade floated that idea earlier too, and it's not factual.

Giga, unfortunately I didn't have time yesterday to respond to you. Today, I have a talk. I will get back to the game after that.

Though I don't agree with parts of Bang's assessment of my playing style (that I get frustrated easily), he can confirm about my busy schedule. And I am still posting more in my VLA and trying to stay active than many others who aren't in VLA. So this has nothing to do with lurking.

^^ pp i highly doubt this is SvS

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ok so

titus/pp/bang/kts

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titus+pp is highly likely but my only doubt it is how hard pp jumped onto titus's light push of me EoD1

titus+bang never happens

pp+kts makes sense really only mechanically to me but i guess

so what jumps out about:

• titus+kts
  pp+bang
  bang+kts

?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

titus+bang never happens

What

titus's push on bang literally all game isn't a titusbus

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also would my reads still suck shit if you were higher and spade lower?

Yup, alban is at the bottom too. You are TRing everyone talking, rather than pushing critical thinking. Your gut says certain things are off but you're giving TRs for posting.

going through titus's iso but this is such a fucking scum discredit

[gigabyteTroubadour]

2 schadd_

4 WhemePlay
5 Titus Lil Uzi Vert
7 Spade_Ace
16 Persivul

3 PenguinPower

3 bangthemafia

10 gigabyteTroubadour

10 alban

1 Prince Lyon

1 Dunnstral

1 Transcend

1 davesaz

1 killthestory

hmm

i only colored in the townreads i'm very confident in atm - left alone any scumreads or weaker townreads that would overbias this

but i think scum did in fact win the draft for the most part - 2 above me 1 below me's my guess or all 3 above me if that's wrong

this probably isn't a stunning revelation but i want to look back at this after flips. confident there's no duplication of numbers between scum though now

like i thought of this bc schadd_ was talking about how people high in the draft should be obvtowning and he's the only one who's really anywhere near obvtown and above me (penguinpower i guess but he's not OBVtown in that he's too lurky to become a universal townread)

I like your TRs. Add me and alban and you're at mine for the most part.

i'm thinking that this was caused by me townreading penguin

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I think your jump off wheme sucked but I townread you for unrelated things. And no and that's a shitty way to look at it; I have scumread KTS since long before he voted me.

The only way you are lynching kts is over my objection or over my dead body.

ok maybe it's kts

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I think your jump off wheme sucked but I townread you for unrelated things. And no and that's a shitty way to look at it; I have scumread KTS since long before he voted me.

The only way you are lynching kts is over my objection or over my dead body.

ok maybe it's kts

wait lol that would just mean titus is wrong town

[gigabyteTroubadour]

but yeah the way titus emptily pushes on bang is like normally a bussy-thing but with titus i feel like she pushes on town like that more often than scum

just ctrl-f "bang" in her iso tbh

I think Titus has just been having a rough game

i guess but

holy shit

[gigabyteTroubadour]

titus+kts
pp+bang
bang+kts

i'm more curious to see how you all feel about these possibilities

pp and kts currently have the most team possibilities so pp is lynch #1 here for sure, but titus and bang have less options since they have strong negative associations

pp/nancy/KTS feels right to me.

it's literally that one interaction at EoD1 that makes me think it's not PP/Titus and bang+pp i don't really see as much because i don't think bang is partnered with alban anyway

[gigabyteTroubadour]

nancy/titus/rc is my paranoia team

lyon is town

like i'm absolutely sure of this read unless he deliberately came into this game to hard-pocket me if i was close to finding the scumteam early on

we've been so in fucking sync that i absolutely cannot see him as scum here and like i can't point to anything that's scum motivated while in the past when he's rolled scum vs. me he's done scummy shit but i'd shrug it off thinking it was deliberate or rc's townplay is just too esoteric for me to understand

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Am I at L-1 yet?

yes

[gigabyteTroubadour]

me+lyon+cloud+dunn+davesaz+kts

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I'm trying to figure out how n3 vig falls all the way to the bottom of the order. TBH I was floored to get watcher so low and I find it hard to believe that 2 PRs ended up at the bottom.

no one picked watcher last game

vengeful was a bottom pick last game

people prefer flashy stuff and i think there were a lot of cop picks up top

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i guess but

holy shit

do you remember why I said "let's kill titus" in double deck

yes i got that and at the time it made sense but she was actually towntelling and making sense there

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Am I at L-1 yet?

yes

I don't think you're right.

you're right

i'm left

(communist joke ☭)

no but i'm correct about the wagon

I'm trying to figure out how n3 vig falls all the way to the bottom of the order. TBH I was floored to get watcher so low and I find it hard to believe that 2 PRs ended up at the bottom.

actually, thinking about it, that's kind of towny to go for that so low in the draft

?

zach picked that slot pretty low in the draft too tho

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i think there were a lot of cop picks up top

last game bottom pick got cop

first pick got it here and spade took it

would not shock me if others did too

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Cool.

Intent to Hammer

15 minutes.

10 minutes

[gigabyteTroubadour]

[quote="In post 3880, CloudKicker"][/quote]

it's not going away and you're not getting nk'd no worries here

[gigabyteTroubadour]

why did that quote break lol

[gigabyteTroubadour]

those quotes could easily be a bus imo

[gigabyteTroubadour]

kts you already voted lol

[gigabyteTroubadour]

VOTE: KTS

Right now you're a headache I don't have time for.

PP is town feeling like he is not allowed to have an opinion. Been there.

i dont get this?

i thought it made sense at first because he's pushing me and thats going against consensus but i cant really find emotional engagement that suggests he feels shut down?

also is your vote on kts policy or a scumread? last few posts before it make it unclear

Policy for now.

I will grab posts hold on.

also i want to clear kts/titus as a team from this ^

[gigabyteTroubadour]

like the progression to hard tr to policy lynch on a buddy makes zero sense

[gigabyteTroubadour]

possible teams so far

• titus/pp
  
  titus/bang
  titus/kts
  
  pp/bang
  pp/kts
  bang/kts

[gigabyteTroubadour]

titus is objectively the worst lynch today from the scumpool dunn

[gigabyteTroubadour]

fucking a i wanted you to fake-self :/

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i feel like i got enough of a reaction to gauge via meta

but even pseudo-mechanically (going to refer to POE-ing possible teams as this so ppl don't get confused when i just call it mechanically) you're the best lynch for today

pp do you think nancy/bang/kts makes sense as a team

Well...I did say 15min. Anyone else have anything pressing to say?

no

[gigabyteTroubadour]

anything you could point to so that scum don't try to break the townbloc tomorrow if you're town?

Can I self-hammer now? We good on the questions?

we'll have twilight so

[gigabyteTroubadour]

whenever you're ready

My biggest issue with bang as scum is I don't see why 2 scum would take the same number. Maybe it was a crazy wifom play but I really doubt it atm.

shit i forgot about that

is that enough to eliminate bang/pp though?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

YOOOOO i made JOAT guys!!

[gigabyteTroubadour]

yeah me too nance

[gigabyteTroubadour]

maybe if we keep discussing we'll just get lost in circles

My biggest issue with bang as scum is I don't see why 2 scum would take the same number. Maybe it was a crazy wifom play but I really doubt it atm.

huh

bang would be scum rather than penguin - and if bang is town penguin still gets a night to neighborize if he is that

if kts gets blocked, he still potentially learn if titus is tracker and if penguinpower is neighborizor

bang/titus doesn't make sense
bang/pp picked the same number

so most likely bang is only scum with kts...?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

nancy did not hammer!

[gigabyteTroubadour]

UNVOTE:



i actually lied about the vc to see if penguin would selfhammer but nancy not hammering is very interesting

[gigabyteTroubadour]

no he's at L-2 lol

[gigabyteTroubadour]

that was so fake btw

guys at least give me brownie points for creativity

[gigabyteTroubadour]

still i took the hammer away from scum i think that's something

[gigabyteTroubadour]

so like

no one believed it? /:

[gigabyteTroubadour]

well letting it roll while penguin seemed to buy it was at least helpful

fairly confident pp is scum as a result

I think you misunderstand, I thought it was a good idea and it did seem to bear fruit.

oh ok

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh noessssssssssssssss nancy didnot hammerw hyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

yeah i kind of figured nancy didnt buy it with this post which is why i rescinded then

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i want to hammer though

this game needs a soft-communist hammer

[gigabyteTroubadour]

so when do we hammer btw

can we hammer it? i think we discussed enough

kinda want titus to react tbh

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wait i have to make the hammering post

[gigabyteTroubadour]

aw darn grundy isnt one of those ppl who requires a game-advancing post to reset a prod :/

[gigabyteTroubadour]

he's at l-2

[gigabyteTroubadour]

PenguinPower (5): Prince Lyon, Killthestory, Cloudkicker, nancy, dunn
nancy (1): PenguinPower

Not Voting (4): bangthemafia, davesaz, Titus, gigglebyteTroubadouba

[gigabyteTroubadour]

davesaz has to vote him basically

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i can't hammer now





he's at l-2

[gigabyteTroubadour]

PenguinPower (5): Prince Lyon, Killthestory, Cloudkicker, nancy, dunn
nancy (1): PenguinPower

Not Voting (4): bangthemafia, davesaz, Titus, gigglebyteTroubadouba

this is an actually accurate vc if dunn votes pp

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh dunn is voting titus w/e

[gigabyteTroubadour]

dunn here's your cue

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i made a half-assed hammer but i could probably find a better quote for it i just reused the first one

[gigabyteTroubadour]

dunn needs to vote

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i think dunn making weird votes at key points in the gamestate is a towntell for him tbh

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I'm kinda interested in Dunn now.
I still think if PP flips scum like we

hope

expect then kts should consider shooting someone else in order to possibly end it right there by leaving us with an obvious lynch tomorrow.

nope nope nope nope nope. KTS is shooting nancy or scumclaiming

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Why isn't it better to eliminate an unknown possible scum + an actual scum, vs. vigging the actual scum and leaving us with no clue tomorrow who to lynch?

pp flipping town basically clears titus

[gigabyteTroubadour]

would kts vig his own partner

[gigabyteTroubadour]

would kts vig his own partner

yeah i guess he's gt if it's not

[gigabyteTroubadour]

is dunn offline

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I proved ages ago that PP flip says nothing about Titus, because Titus could still be the rb even if PP is the neighborizer.

i'm talking interactions

titus/bang makes zero sense, titus/kts is highly unlikely

titus/pp makes some sense

everyone outside of that is in the townbloc and also makes little sense as a titus partner (except maybe lyon since they'd be able to fake interactions i guess but i highly highly HIGHLY doubt this)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

and titus cannot be the rb

[gigabyteTroubadour]

this thread is now about walmart

completely evils or just SLIGHTLY evils!?!?!?!

completely evil

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I've personally seen RC and Titus break every "rule" there is about svs, because I was scum with them in a large where they pulled a giant 1v1.

You can't rule out Titus + anyone on interactions alone

. Or RC for that matter.

was this the answer to that question i asked way back btw

if you dont remember i'll pull it up but

rc/titus you have a fair point but i'm skeptical about the other two

bang/titus doesn't make sense from either side though i don't think bang has the experience to break the rules that much in terms of interactions

[gigabyteTroubadour]

can u vote

[gigabyteTroubadour]

you're putting him at l-1 and we want to hammer

[gigabyteTroubadour]

He's at l-1 right now

she's not

i'm not voting

[gigabyteTroubadour]

PenguinPower (5): Prince Lyon, Killthestory, Cloudkicker, nancy, davesaz
nancy (1): PenguinPower
titus (1): dunn

Not Voting (3): bangthemafia, Titus, gigglebyteTroubadouba

this is an actually accurate vc if dunn votes pp

i just changed ur name to dave this is the vc

[gigabyteTroubadour]

town wants to hammer and i'm ok with it i'm not sure what else there is to discuss

[gigabyteTroubadour]

why did i call penguin a she lol

[gigabyteTroubadour]

dunn ya killin me here bruh i just want to post this hammer

[gigabyteTroubadour]

fuk u too nancy

[gigabyteTroubadour]

>when it's 6 to lynch

[gigabyteTroubadour]

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pretend that was the real hammer

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nancy i faked the vc do you really want to LAL me

[gigabyteTroubadour]

guys it's recycled from last game smdh

[gigabyteTroubadour]

guys it's recycled from last game smdh

Spoiler: although last time it was a game winning move because mathblade's reaction to it was terrible

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Good game guys

post game thoughts after school!!

although making it on mobile fucked up the formatting lmao

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also no one has ever called out that luxemburg is german not russian lol

i still go with it because of my avatar and the aesthetic so

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don't you mean defending pp

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still cracking up tho

that game was fun because of how stupidly easy it was

i felt bad though for the scumteam

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i know it probably would have been way less of a clusterfuck too

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tbf i think that scum still thought hawk was a mason at that time

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poor math is getting roasted

math ilu if ur watching </3

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wait, bang/penguin have the same number

yeah i literally told you this

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titus makes sense given how fucking tight {nancy/titus}'s slots have been with each other and that literally anything town motivated this game has been strongarmed by something stupid (momo lynch, spade lynch, LACK OF AN ALBAN LYNCH UNTIL NOW) so scum are probably just townreading each other and doing dumb shit and getting away with it

but if lyon is right and titus starts to towntell when she actually re-evaluates with nancy/alban scum in mind then maybe it's kts

highly doubt cloud is scum any time here

We should just lynch nancy and let my track sort shit out. I am prod dodging until that happens or doesn't.

we already lynched pp

your track isn't getting roleblocked unless nancy is the rb and pp is a neighborizer

but then that begs the question of why do scum take neighborizer before rb

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If they flip goon, the flip's informationless

cloud is probably scum in that case...?

he claimed vt with neighborizer

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^

i miscounted the votes

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oh not pp? ok

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unless nancy and KTS are both scum with both vig roles it's not a big deal

wait

uh

this is a scenario that can realistically happen

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nvm no it's not

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transcend was obvtown

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transcend doesnt replace out as scum here imo

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yeah but

he doesn't

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you guys should stop lessen your read just because time passed, ive saw that behavior quite often on this site

i dont do that

you made me worried for a bit but it was by play not time

also this is my longest iso to date

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GUYS I AM VT.

IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME INVESTIGATE ME TONIGHT!!!!

rolecop only gets "vanilla" so you could be a goon

and a cop has a lot of better targets

so uh

can you go into why you think it's kts/alban/lyon

momo was close probably guys

[gigabyteTroubadour]

the non-argument "i'm town" is in vogue lately, which is shite

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i miss schadd even though he was kind of part of the scumbloc

[gigabyteTroubadour]

spade was his top sr

i was scummy to him

i think he did fos kts though but i'm not sure

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i think he did fos kts though but i'm not sure

nope

man how many ppl i think highly of had really off games if town :/

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my gut says that at some point during this game there may have ever been a time where a town player did something ill-advised. i'm not certain of this, though

ha

schadd's gut was right

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i feel bad roasting the dead but this is kind of important to look at

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i think i played well here and honestly that's all that counts because i had a string of bad games recently

maybe i could have pushed alban harder D1 but i was scumread by town for no reason and momo's reads didnt feel genuine

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i thought that was some random poster

hi dave

yas giga u playd vry well and u and lyon CARrried me evne tho i didnt believe in my lord and savior lyon for am omen

but i ma back on the path now at 11:19 pm. at night

bruh

why do i feel like we're about to get double vigged by nancy+kts even though that's impossible

i think i played well here and honestly that's all that counts because i had a string of bad games recently

maybe i could have pushed alban harder D1 but i was scumread by town for no reason and momo's reads didnt feel genuine

I tried to lynch Alban D1 too but there were so many people defending him. Worst part is most of them are flipped town.

i'm trying to think of a wagon composition that could have lynched him D1 but i can't

the current townbloc (me, you, dunn, davesaz, transcend) for sure, maybe spade, momo? but that's 7 out of 8.

wooooo
living off energy drinks
wooooo
yeah we're living off our energy drinks
take my hand
and we'll drink our juice
whooooo
living off energy drinks

all-nighter?

if you're doing one i'd probably get off of here man :c

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i think i played well here and honestly that's all that counts because i had a string of bad games recently

maybe i could have pushed alban harder D1 but i was scumread by town for no reason and momo's reads didnt feel genuine

I tried to lynch Alban D1 too but there were so many people defending him. Worst part is most of them are flipped town.

Yeah, by yelling at us.

titus i really wanted to know why a wagon stalling in rvs was alignment indicative at all

it's rvs

scum aren't going to interact with the wagon as though it's serious - it's rvs

like if we had engaged there i think we could have been way more productive

[gigabyteTroubadour]

gigabait?

oh man

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lmao

also i thought my case on alban was rock solid like

he misrepped and watered down my reasoning for suspecting him in a slimy way, he called lyon scumreading him omgus when that made no sense, and he just reacted scummily to pressure

it's not like i didnt point this out multiple times

serious question am i a player people just naturally discredit?

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You guys know the game isn't over

I'm feeling really good about a scumflip here and I trust you guys to win the game if I get nightkilled. *shrug*
Just don't be morons and lynch Titus tomorrow regardless of your read on her. If you have to lynch her do so in 5 way after she clears someone. I don't think she's scum but.

honestly

i'm scumreading kts in twilight

so

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davesaz doesnt have a big ego but yeah thats true

lmao

also i thought my case on alban was rock solid like

he misrepped and watered down my reasoning for suspecting him in a slimy way, he called lyon scumreading him omgus when that made no sense, and he just reacted scummily to pressure

it's not like i didnt point this out multiple times

serious question am i a player people just naturally discredit?

not really. I said the exact same things and I even take the time to make like 5 wallposts about why they were obvscum on day 1.

Everyone was deathtunneling people like momo for being derps instead of scummy people for being scum I guess and it doesn't help that Schadd refused to vote anyone I wanted lynched the entire game, which is pretty gross. Like idk, if everyone else in the game disagrees with you you can at least not derail scum lynches because I support them.

hghg

i hope this post game isnt toxic i really want everyone to learn something here

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and by everyone i do mean myself, you (lyon), etc too

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lyon this is the one game i actually had a genuine hardtownread on you

like when you rolled scum vs me all three times i townread you at first to avoid pressure i wouldnt react well to which then mutated into a real tr

idk if it's the alt but if your townplay always feels like this then it's really different

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not always

there have been games as town ive struggled to towntell in

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I think that a lot of my scumreads in the games that you've played with me have been really shallow? like especially that first newbie.

it's funny because i literally picked up on this, i think i prodded you on it and u gave a totally bs answer and i just bought it lmao

you dont have to nk me unless i actually can reliably read you tbh i've only ever been nk'd the night before the final day and thats basically everything you need to know about me as a player

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guys please help my crayons spilt everywhere and they're all over the floor and i m getting FINGER CRAMPS and theres NO MOJRE ENERGY JUICES

same

[gigabyteTroubadour]

lmfaooooo

i wonder if i'll ever be ml'd again

[gigabyteTroubadour]

pp can you tell us your flip

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so you do flip scum?

mod is going to be online soon i think

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ok

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i would have had schadd shot N1 imo, have the rb (i guess you) claim rb'd doc and vote whemeplay, and then rb whemeplay who will cc

like rb being confirmed in the set up makes it really wonky where i'd bus it asap if i can be sure the cop is neutralized

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i guess you could shoot lyon rb schadd but you risk conftown Wheme getting a result

higher risk and reward

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im not sure what i expected as an answer

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no salt here

you being town locks in nancy/kts as teammates and i suppose bang is the third? poor dude is always poe scum

you being scum is just you being scum

[gigabyteTroubadour]

so either i'm wrong about a townread or it's bang+kts

nancy is the lynch today but i'm not sure about bang/kts

[gigabyteTroubadour]

titus doesnt have a logical third team member

[gigabyteTroubadour]

2 schadd_

- Cop

4 WhemePlay

- Tracker
5 Titus Lil Uzi Vert - UB/Rolecop

7 Spade_Ace

- Cop

16 momo/Persivul

- UB/Rolecop

3 PenguinPower

- Neighborizer
3 bangthemafia
10 gigabyteTroubadour

10 nancy alban

1 Prince Lyon
1 Dunnstral
1 Cloudkicker Transcend - Neighborizer

1 davesaz

- OS Watcher
1 killthestory - N3 Vig/Vengeful

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if nancy is the roleblocker then if there's a OS-vig i want them to shoot kts here i think

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don't ask me man

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Did dave actually have a guilty or was he lying?

Dunn visited no one.

why would dave lie about having a guilty

he watched schadd and nancy visited, nancy has been playing like guiltied scum since

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it's fine titus we can take our time

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wait titus do you think lyon is scum?

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Pretty sure town lost this game when they lynched spade_ace

yeah

I know I told you a few days ago but why did you track me

Anyway we pretty much need to kill nancy here - I have doubts on Titus, I think bang is probably mafia by poe though

titus doesnt have any partners that make sense

agree about bang but idk i don't really have any solid reasoning to call him scum still besides everyone else being obvious town

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titus doesnt have any partners that make sense

nancy

#3?

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i don't think from interactions titus and bang are partners

she's been calling him scum all game in a really empty way that if she's scum it's like how she was trying to lynch me in chilledtea's normal

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it's titus though

when has she ever bussed or not hard-buddied her partners

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ok ranger in street fighter mafia i guess

look i'm trusting lyon on this one

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Why did i get a result?

either to make kts look like he was rb'd or because he was rb'd

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i.e. your target probably should have been who you think is the rb if kts is town

also dunn honestly i dont think town!Titus has any clue whats been going on this game so the weird night action doesnt phase me that much?

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*faze

not really though

nancy is the one making kills if titus is town and town has no way to block it

?

it's not about blocking it it's about making sure kts doesnt shoot nancy

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wait, she can still catch the rb

yeah that's what i was saying

but rb doesn't act if kts is scum

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yeah that doesn't contradict what i was saying

titus can catch the rb

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2 schadd_

- Cop

4 WhemePlay

- Tracker
5 Titus Lil Uzi Vert - UB/Rolecop

7 Spade_Ace

- Cop

16 momo/Persivul

- UB/Rolecop

3 PenguinPower

- Neighborizer
3 bangthemafia
10 gigabyteTroubadour

10 nancy alban

1 Prince Lyon
1 Dunnstral
1 Cloudkicker Transcend - Neighborizer

1 davesaz

- OS Watcher
1 killthestory - N3 Vig/Vengeful

you're first dunn

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fsdafsdafsdaf was that a crumb

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2 schadd_

- Cop

4 WhemePlay

- Tracker
5 Titus Lil Uzi Vert - UB/Rolecop

7 Spade_Ace

- Cop

16 momo/Persivul

- UB/Rolecop

3 PenguinPower

- Neighborizer
3 bangthemafia
10 gigabyteTroubadour

10 nancy alban

1 Prince Lyon
1 Dunnstral - Cop
1 Cloudkicker Transcend - Neighborizer

1 davesaz

- OS Watcher
1 killthestory - N3 Vig/Vengeful

you're first dunn

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*lyon is next

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page 51 makes me think it's nancy/bang more strongly and not titus

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{lyon, dunn} - 99.9% town
{trans, kts} - town
{spade, schadd_, pp} - town
{persivul, davesaz} - townlean
-----null line----
{bang} - this is a lightish sr but i'd prefer the others first still. will only vote here at gunpoint or deadline
{titus, alban, whemeplay} - comfortable lynching here today

why do my reads get progressively worse

like besides kts town this is a good readlist

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no votes. I'm fairly sure I solved the game. later.

can you claim before you go?

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wait, she can still catch the rb

yeah that's what i was saying

but rb doesn't act if kts is scum

?

I am lost there.

The roleblocker has more reasons to not act (to prevent being tracked) than they do to act (to hopefully roleblock a 1-shot vig who's probably not shooting anyway) if kts is scum (since he's the n3 vig and was to shoot nancy last night)

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who picked...?

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2 schadd_

- Cop

4 WhemePlay

- Tracker
5 Titus Lil Uzi Vert - UB/Rolecop

7 Spade_Ace

- Cop

16 momo/Persivul

- UB/Rolecop

3 PenguinPower

- Neighborizer
3 bangthemafia
10 gigabyteTroubadour - Cop

10 nancy alban

1 Prince Lyon - UB/RC
1 Dunnstral - Cop
1 Cloudkicker Transcend - Neighborizer

1 davesaz

- OS Watcher
1 killthestory - N3 Vig/Vengeful

all we need is bang's claim

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smh you went for cop too

I'd say "I should have went for oneshot watcher" and I probably should have but it got used to good effect

same but with vig

alban would have died n1 >_>

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also lowkey feel like dave should have watched penguin

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh?

also

Spoiler: large image

[gigabyteTroubadour]

fuck that's too big

@mod can you spoiler that for me thank you

it's for dunn

[gigabyteTroubadour]

he's my second biggest townread after you.

^ thought this was directed at you?

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Never talks about his read on the slot, just labels him town. This is the first time that he's mentioned him.

havent read the case but he's talking about jackal not alban lmao

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honestly




i'm meh on it

i don't think alban mentioned dunn once though that's interesting

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why was i townreading dunn again though that's the real question

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why was i townreading dunn again though that's the real question

gut

no

[gigabyteTroubadour]

"he was town"

jackal was town not alban

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actually yeah whatever happened to not wanting to lynch alban again

[gigabyteTroubadour]

"he was town"

jackal was town not alban

wasn't jackal in double deck

yes

i quoted you from double deck talking about jackal as a reference to alban

were you actually referring to alban

actually yeah whatever happened to not wanting to lynch alban again

I just didn't see a reason to lynch alban

looked like a counterwagon to what I thought was mafia at the time

what about the case i kept repeating all of d1 :////////////////////////

and also it was being pushed exclusively by your townreads wouldnt that make you react differently

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i'm going to reread but based on dunn's current posting it feels right

I am calling this an outright slip.

I only get called out on slips when I'm

town

oh man

[gigabyteTroubadour]

no i know it's true




so far

(i don't think it's a slip but that doesn't make it alignment indicative - meaning you can still be scum)

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i see what you mean and agree i just dont believe in scumslips

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Y'all just don't like alban's play style.

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see 4353 is really scummy



sus

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ctrl + f alban on bang gives 80 results

That's a lot

wow it's almost like they're friends???

ctrl + f alban on bang gives 80 results

That's a lot

Because Bang spent a lot of time trying to phrase their townread on Alban. It felt and still feels genuine.

this too ^^

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the dead thread is either cheering that we just 360'd hard or really fucking pissed at us




oh man