Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2875 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:00 am

In post 2871, NotTheRealPaul wrote:Giga!!! are u stalking me?

no

- im actually stalking raybells

I'll be on this after work!

Do I need to read all 100 something pages or can someone give me the deets? I'll probably at least read from daystart on tho

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2890 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:33 am

In post 2889, Kelvin Smith wrote:Kelvin Smith: Slot claimed Cop, switched claim to Doctor (Both on Day 2)

Might I ask why...?

And was this between replacements or?

First thing that's jumping at me but thanks for the summary!

literally just stepped inside so i'm taking a look-see at everything rn

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2891 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:48 am

VOTE: Alban

mostly just from wagon composition so far, from speed-ISO skims this is probably town!raybells and i'm OK with Kelvin (mostly townreading the summary here, going to look into the logistics behind the claim swap). alban hasnt really impressed me so far and creature seems like a really weird protect since it seems like he was scumread by most (he was obvtown here but still.......)

i'll try to piece something more substantial in a bit but this is in case i drop down and die right now

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2895 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:15 am

how likely is it we can flashwagon math? havent read any of their posts but if there's a scum!cop it's them since paul is obvtown and i'm like 90% this is town!gamma. don't know if this is the mechanically correct play but it's an option.

from the docs i think kelvin, titus, and raybells are all town (kinda looked into D1 and I liked their predecessors too)

i dont really know how to feel about alban since he always seems off to me. don't really like some things about Cooperative sheep either so far but i remember RC saying something about knowing his main and him doing something out-of-characteristic wrt his scum game. havent read enough of the game to know if it makes sense for an alban/navy dichotomy to happen if theyre both scum here either

rc can you talk to me about why you're voting alban over navy?

my reads are something like

{RC, Titus, Paul}
{kelvin, gamma}
{vedith} - null
{navy, alban}
{mathblade}

pedit: yeah, i definitely agree it was a dumb move that really only makes sense from a town perspective. thanks for pulling that up.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2896 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:15 am

ok i just realized there's 7 doc claims and that's why we're lynching docs :/

miscounted in my notes lol

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2897 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:16 am

and to clarify i

have

read hellfire missile's iso, just not mathblade's

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2900 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:26 am

as scum though i'd be concerned with the outcome

like the only reason i'd see it from scum is if they thought they could pull off a dumbtell like that or something and neither you nor mutton strike me as that type of player

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2903 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:29 am

In post 2901, Kelvin Smith wrote:
In post 2895, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:how likely is it we can flashwagon math?
Paul
RC
You
Me

Those are all of the people we could definitely get to vote Math. alban and Gamma are people I think we could maybe get to vote Math. So it's potentially doable.

ehhhhh

i dont see alban siding with raybells though

i'd like to hear from him though on this

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2906 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:33 am

anyway though

i'm fairly confident on the top 5 ppl in my reads being town so i'm good to end the day i think

i dont think i'm going to get much done in <48 hours, i did some soft reading but it kind of always turns to mush when i do that and i'd rather just talk to people whenever i'm on.

probably would be ready to hammer once everyone posts at least once

pedit: hmm

i actually like that post? i kind of glossed over it while isoing and only his d1 stuff really retained in my head

UNVOTE:

raybells talk to me why alban > navy

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2909 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:40 am

VOTE: mathblade

just in case we get enough people on

otherwise i'll hop back on whichever of navy/alban is bigger in time though

i'm starting to lean closer to navy > alban however

Kelvin Smith wrote:
In post 2906, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i actually like that post? i kind of glossed over it while isoing and only his d1 stuff really retained in my head
The problem with that post is that it only came while he was at L-2 after I heavily criticized him because he was unwilling to work with anybody after claiming that 6 of the 9 remaining players (not including himself, obviously) were scummy. Up until that point, he's basically been able to get away with not taking firm stances on anybody by saying that he wouldn't vote with a given person because he didn't agree with their reasoning, even if he agreed with their conclusion.

oh lmfao

sorry - the deadline's kind of got me flustered and i'm trying to condense as much information as possible (i'm already horrible at doing catch ups which is why i only replace in upon request >_>)

but yeah that does detract from the genuineness of that post

i'll read that area more closely in his iso then

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:41 am

In post 2908, Titus wrote:@K

Everytime I turn around you are talking about how Math and I cannot be together bc you cannot control Math and I. It's an equally valid reason to lynch you and RC. You refuse to let me go through my process, gove reasons beyond strategy, or consider my pov.

Titus, why Navy > Alban?

Why not Mathblade? Just because you think it's more optimal to lynch a doctor claim or because you townread them?

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:54 am

In post 1378, Navy wrote:Hello Splatlock Holmes. D:

Navy, why this reaction to jj's replace in?

and reading the posts around the post you linked, kelvin, i think it's consistent with the way he's viewing the game so it doesn't really change that read. like i'm getting the impression he actually feels victimized and is trying to reach out and be the better person. i dont really know if i agree with his mentality in general this game or if i'm articulating my thoughts correctly but it feels genuine

Titus wrote:
In post 2910, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 2908, Titus wrote:@K

Everytime I turn around you are talking about how Math and I cannot be together bc you cannot control Math and I. It's an equally valid reason to lynch you and RC. You refuse to let me go through my process, gove reasons beyond strategy, or consider my pov.
Titus, why Navy > Alban?

Why not Mathblade? Just because you think it's more optimal to lynch a doctor claim or because you townread them?
Navy is an alt avoiding this thread.
I think doc cops and lynches break the game wide open if not solve it.
I was hard tring Math but Vedith freaked me.

i can definitely see navy lurking out here as town tbh

how would a navy scumflip solve this game?

And what do you mean by "freaked"? And why were you hard townreading math?

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:59 am

VOTE: navy

eh screw it, deadline

math lynch i'm more confident in but the jj kill was probably a fear kill

talk to me though navy my reads are really loose atm and if you're town i'll see it if you help me out.

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:04 pm

In post 1453, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1452, MathBlade wrote:Jjh does not get into a "townblock" with Titus. She tries blocks as either alignment. Vedith sounding Townie is scary I am not used to this.
Why don't I townblock with titus?

You're shaping up to be a great target for me to cop.

lol??

i'd believe it

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:05 pm

ugh no

alban's d1 was bad but his later play is his townplay i think

rc come get navy with me

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:10 pm

VOTE: mathblade

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:35 pm

as a new jerseyian i can tell you that's bruce springsteen's dancing in the dark

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:39 pm

it was a dumb gambit

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:46 pm

In post 2924, Titus wrote:There are several logical anf factual fallacies in your counter but yes it is how I feel.

who is this in response to?

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:46 pm

In post 2925, Titus wrote:I would answer but driving

dont mafia scum and drive

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:53 pm

gamma what do you think of math?

pedit: great minds

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:54 pm

you have less than 48 hours

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2941 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:04 pm

ok this game is on lock

{titus rc gamma paul} never flip scum and i'm like 90% sure kelvin is town too. alban is probably town but dont take my word for it.

my guess for the team is math/navy/vedith in order of certainty but with those lock four as town i dont think we can possibly lose

gamma do you disagree on any of this?

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2942 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:05 pm

In post 2940, Kelvin Smith wrote:Navy is now actively making sure that her slot doesn't contribute, by apparently trying to prevent herself from being replaced while saying nothing of value.

this alone isnt scum motivated from her but it doesnt change her alignment

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2946 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:11 pm

wait you think scum!math's partner is in {titus rc gamma paul}? why...?

like all of them are shitting town sparkles everywhere

Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2941, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:ok this game is on lock

{titus rc gamma paul} never flip scum and i'm like 90% sure kelvin is town too. alban is probably town but dont take my word for it.

my guess for the team is math/navy/vedith in order of certainty but with those lock four as town i dont think we can possibly lose

gamma do you disagree on any of this?
Not sure about including RC or Paul as conftown but you do you
Maybe I should work on making sure I know my reads before going forth with how much has been going on

Agent Sparkles was obvtown imo and i think my slot was the most reasonable nk out of the three possibilities

paul had an obvtown d1 and is voting mathblade. good enough for me at this point

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2948 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:12 pm

i mean that's fine and understandable given no scumflips

but those are my reads

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2951 (isolation #26) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:15 pm

\_O_/

obviously they may not be perfect

i know what im doing lol

pedit: this is assuming scum!titus - why?

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2955 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:18 pm

titus's play was drastically different last game - namely she didn't push the mechanical angle of docs ever

titus is usually annoyingly stubborn and favors using mechanics when possible as town

like this screams her town play

pedit: contrary to me saying my reads are "lock" i have like 0 confidence in them. you'll get used to it

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2961 (isolation #28) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:30 pm

i don't see the point of speculating any of this

can we just focus on lynching scum? do you think math is scum or not gamma and why

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2963 (isolation #29) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:36 pm

i guess?

sorry when there's a <5 day deadline i get kind of testy

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2976 (isolation #30) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:35 pm

2 more votes

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2978 (isolation #31) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:41 pm

there's absolutely no way all 3 scum are in the doctors

creature and gamma are not n1 kills - raybells is the most believable n1 doctor

i think kelvin is town

thus there

has

to be a scum cop which means that pools should be solved as well

is this information mechanically confirmed? probably not

but play strongly supports that this is a valid move for today too.

if you can get a wagon on navy then i will gladly move over but math is at l-2 so i'm not moving my vote until then.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3000 (isolation #32) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:06 pm

yeah two of those are town

navy is bus material anyway

pedit: you have majority atm

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3023 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:50 am

Alban, I'm only lynching between Navy/Mathblade today and my case strongly relies on POE within the cops since I don't think all the doctors are scum.

RC is town. I've read D1 and neither Creature nor Gamma make sense as N1 kills. I was the shot that night. I know and acknowledge he has a good scum game but Agent Sparkles was also very town and the mechanics suggest he's town. RC being town heavily implies he's reading titus correctly and she and grundy are also obvious town. From that alone, there has to be one scum cop from your pov.

Firmly leaving your vote on RC, who's never getting lynched today, isn't helping anyone. Vote Navy if not Mathblade, but an RC vote is not going to do anything when there's 1 day to deadline left.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3026 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:29 am

alban i hope those last two posts from mathblade suffice for a case

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3027 (isolation #35) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:31 am

navy if you're town vote mathblade.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3029 (isolation #36) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:44 am

In post 3028, alban wrote:One question. If Titus is town coz RC reads her as town, why isn't Math town coz Titus reads them town? Why are you placing RC's scumread of Math above Titus's townread of them? Are you saying Titus is town only/mostly coz RC reads them town?

I guess you're right that it's a double standard but I strongly believe that RC is able to read Titus accurately while Mathblade is generally incomprehensible as either alignment (though I feel like I'm starting to pick up on some of their tells). I don't think Titus has a consistent record of being able to read Mathblade correctly either.

What is your read on Mathblade either way?

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3031 (isolation #37) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:50 am

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3037 (isolation #38) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:19 am

In post 3032, Titus wrote:
In post 3031, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)
Why on Math?

I don't think there are three scum doctors. Ergo there's at least 1 scum in {Paul, Gamma, Vedith, Math}

Paul and Gamma are obvtown by meta and just general posting from what i've seen from paul's D1 and Gamma's play since I replaced in.

That leaves Vedith and Math. I was kind of OK with Lunae's posting and thought she was kind of town, while Hellfire Missile's posts seem really off, especially considering his reputation for being the constantly confused newbie. He found his footing too quickly IMO

and math's posts have just been straight up scumclaims so far. no one is insinuating they're bussing navy (yes i teamread them but that's more from POE than interactions) and theyre trying to take responsibility for that lynch while taking none for alban from how they're talking about it - "oh i've been telling you guys to lynch navy so help me 'bus' already"

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3041 (isolation #39) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:39 am

In post 3038, Titus wrote:I don't think saying help me bus is a scumclaim. I'm still investigating some Vedith things.

What I am 100% worried about is something like RC Vedith Paul. :/

i refuse to believe that gamma or creature are killed n1 this game

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3043 (isolation #40) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:49 am

Why...?

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3051 (isolation #41) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:23 am

Not likely?

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3058 (isolation #42) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:13 am

He said an agreement on an unspent Cop, e.g. any cop but mathblade >_>

dont policy lynch kelvin or rc though we actually need to use our mislynches to get scum.

pedit: mathblade isn't an info lynch?? mathblade is scum by play.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3060 (isolation #43) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:35 am

In post 3037, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:I don't think there are three scum doctors. Ergo there's at least 1 scum in {Paul, Gamma, Vedith, Math}

Paul and Gamma are obvtown by meta and just general posting from what i've seen from paul's D1 and Gamma's play since I replaced in.

That leaves Vedith and Math. I was kind of OK with Lunae's posting and thought she was kind of town, while Hellfire Missile's posts seem really off, especially considering his reputation for being the constantly confused newbie. He found his footing too quickly IMO

Hellfire Missile was scummy and Math's posting and POE is not doing them any favors.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3069 (isolation #44) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:56 am

titus why do you always ignore my reasoning for reads

this was the same thing for alban in pyp

zzzzzzzz

pedit: yes it is but it's not the only reasoning to lynch math today.

if i were in this game from the start i'd have a much easier time articulating why math is scum because i'd have more than just "gut" and meta reads but from poe alone our lynch pool should be {navy, math, vedith} and two of those slots are cops. math is the scummiest one by play IMO

and

the extra information is a consolation if wrong.

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:01 am

In post 3070, Titus wrote:The only theoretical scumteam I have with Math includes Vedith and RC or alban.

Why can't it be Mathblade/Navy/Vedith?

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:29 am

i'm fine giving titus control over the cops if it means getting a mathblade vote

though i think math pushing 3 doc theory means that they're trying to break up the townbloc of titus/rc/kelvin from forming and instigating further conflict there

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:36 am

why did rc have to burn his thumb

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:50 am

yeah that was basically the plan i had in my head for copping

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:53 am

asdlhfsadjfasl

i've been skyping rc for the past few hours asking him if he's ok (he injured himself badly the other day) and he hasnt gotten back to meeee

legit worried about him

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:03 am

Mathblade - Lynched
gigabyteTroubadour - Cop
Gamma Emerald - Cop
Vedith - Cop
NotTheRealPaul - Cop

RadiantCowbells
Kelvin Smith
Titus
Navy
alban

After a Mathblade lynch we have 4 living cops and 5 docs.

I think we should do:

Vedith investigates Navy (widely scumread person going for the slot we're lynching anyway more than likely)
Giga investigates Alban
Paul investigates Raybells
Gamma investigates Kelvin

regardless of the flip.

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:05 am

Alternatively we can switch Paul and me.

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:08 am

oh yeah

forgot about lylo

hang on then

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:09 am

that plan was originally for scum!Mathblade

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:09 am

In post 3110, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Mathblade - Lynched
gigabyteTroubadour - Cop
Gamma Emerald - Cop
Vedith - Cop
NotTheRealPaul - Cop

RadiantCowbells
Kelvin Smith
Titus
Navy
alban

After a Mathblade lynch we have 4 living cops and 5 docs.

I think we should do:

Vedith investigates Kelvin

Giga investigates Alban

Paul investigates Navy

Gamma investigates Raybells

^ town!math

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:11 am

In post 3116, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3114, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:that plan was originally for scum!Mathblade
...Except I am Town!Mathblade and I don't like how people are just going "yeah we aren't making a plan for Town Math"

no one is saying this

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:11 am

what's wrong with the town!mathblade plan

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:14 am

Fine, switch RC and Kelvin. I'm fine with that.

pedit: why don't you trust paul?

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:16 am

that seems more like town apathy to me - i'd think that he'd be a bit guarded of a navy lynch if he's unfamiliar with her main and if town since it feels too easy

his early game shat newbtown

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:31 am

i think both you and titus are town so i dont really care if you're not investigated

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:34 am

i thought rc thought you were town?

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:09 pm

:/

/:

man

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:11 pm

i really dont know

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:11 pm

paul

that is hammer.

Kelvin Smith wrote:
In post 3147, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i really dont know
Don't know what?

what to do

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:17 pm

i mean i guess?

sorry

i really feel shitty replacing into the middle of this game i just.......................... guh

i just want to do something about the toxicity but i feel really powerless and wish we could just talk this over but there's so much pressure to get it right and get everyone to agree and just so little time

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:17 pm

a universe where raybells is scum means that creature was nightkilled n1 this game

i refuse to believe that

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:41 pm

in that case i'd be copping alban since i think there's a chance he's town but i'm not positive

if i cop a cop it will always be vedith because gamma and paul are obvtown to me imo

pedit: lol math???????

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3223 (isolation #67) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:06 pm

In post 3218, Vedith wrote:
In post 1711, Navy wrote:Yo.

In post 1716, Navy wrote:The lylo thing is a lie. You couldn't have done that because you were dead before lylo in Spring Fever.

In post 1934, Navy wrote:yo.

In post 2399, Navy wrote:Hello Annie.

In post 2862, Navy wrote:nnhhhhhh
This is what we didn't lynch.

OK? We can just let the slot get replaced.

She's probably scum but you're acting like she wouldn't play like that as either alignment and I'd rather lynch a slot with readable content.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3237 (isolation #68) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:14 pm

@__________________________________@

i'm just going to avoid the thread until a50 flips math

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3301 (isolation #69) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:53 pm

In post 3299, Gamma Emerald wrote:I just want A50 to come by so we can stop circle jerking

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3345 (isolation #70) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:39 pm

is this twilight going to be less toxic now?

if so i'm going to keep an eye out here until i conk out

i still dont think mathblade flips town fwiw

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3347 (isolation #71) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:48 pm

In post 3129, Titus wrote:Town Math

Vedith investigates Kelvin
Giga investigates Alban
Gamma investigates Navy
Paul investigates Raybells

Scum Math

Giga investigates Vedith
Gamma investigates Navy
Paul investigates alban
Vedith investigates me (bring it)

posting so no one misses it

{titus kelvin raybells}
{gamma alban}
{vedith paul}
{navy mathblade}

vedith is my ideal cop no matter the flip but i'm fine being a team player and copping alban

pauls posting felt a bit off during this twilight - i guess i'm kind of shocked he's taking a firm stance wrt the cop plans and it doesnt mesh with anything i know about him as a player. kind of want to relook what made me think he was strongly town from d1

pedit: thanks. i know i can probably do a lot better this game (especially if math is town) but i just am not going to have the motivation to do it if egos are being flung everywhere. i dont think anyones posting is particularly wrong or awful and like i get everyones perspective and see them as all valid which i guess is a shitty stance but i dont know what else to say?? i really wish i was here from the start so id have better context to get everyone to meet in the middle

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3350 (isolation #72) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:59 pm

fwiw i dont know why vedith scumread njac, i thought him and AS were pretty transparently town slots when i read D1

him, as, commknight, creature, sesq, and luneae probably would have been my townreads if i were following from the start but i dont know how much of that is from knowing the flips (besides creature since hes so fucking easy to read lmao)

\_O_/

pedit: then he can think of it as a recommendation. we're not threatening people with policy lynches if tomorrow is mylo and we're lynching Navy if theres no guilty otherwise. we dont have room for error just because we want people to play a certain way. i personally see it better to stick with a plan given by town if you dont have a reason to object to it or dont see a flaw with it but not everyone is the same

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3353 (isolation #73) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:31 pm

math you're trolling and it's getting kind of annoying

kelvin already pointed out the 6 votes on you can you stop

if you're scum just claim and Stop. if you're town idk. i really dont think kelvin/raybells/titus has any scum - and if thats right who do you read as scum?

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3362 (isolation #74) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:25 pm

In post 3355, RadiantCowbells wrote:Giga, do you need me checked before the end of the game to townread me

no

AS's catch up was super obvtown and helped me catch up

and rc was scum in both? rc what are you referring to

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3365 (isolation #75) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:35 pm

no i know but rc said he replaced into a townslot

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3369 (isolation #76) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:41 pm

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3370 (isolation #77) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:41 pm

except when i have work

it's so weird to stay up til 2 some days and then others wake up at 4 and sleep at like 9 or 10

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3377 (isolation #78) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:30 am

Vedith is

town

.

Will probably vote for navy but i'd like to wait for the other cops to out results.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3395 (isolation #79) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:27 am

he's just shitposting

VOTE: navy

cooperative sheep was scummy too imo so this is where i want to start

if i need to case i will but i want to hear from alban mostly

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3397 (isolation #80) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:30 am

why?

i think it's possible he's town - genuine feels and all that that i didnt really get from last game

he also feels less like... tactical? mechanical? than before

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3400 (isolation #81) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:37 am

i've seen rc shitpost before yes

also fairly sure that theres daytalk based on the last two games

pedit: i'll give him a second look but i recall asking for a more in-depth explanation here if you could do that without avoiding outing his alt

gigabyteTroubadour · Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:00 am

In post 3407, alban wrote:My top bet for scum right now will be Kelvin or RC.

Why wouldn't Math want to distance from Navy though? like hard-defending a useless scumpartner looks worse than defending a plausibly town partner in my opinion because there's at least a town reason for misreading a widely townread slot. i'd say ignoring it is actually even worse

and why wouldn't kelvin be cleared for spearheading the mathblade lynch? i would have opted for navy or you had he not pushed it as hard? like math/navy ~ kelvin/math... they're parallels from my vantage point

RC, to me, still has the most logical N1 target too, but I suppose there's an offchance that scum no-killed n1? seems like a waste though to me.

pedit: why do you scumread me

gigabyteTroubadour · Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:27 am

why cant i figure out what alignment alban is?

i dont see why theyre mutually exclusive

gigabyteTroubadour · Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:31 am

oh lol

im genuinely confused though but yeah thats fair

gigabyteTroubadour · Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:50 pm

In post 3129, Titus wrote:Town Math

Vedith investigates Kelvin
Giga investigates Alban
Gamma investigates Navy
Paul investigates Raybells

Scum Math

Giga investigates Vedith
Gamma investigates Navy
Paul investigates alban
Vedith investigates me (bring it)

??????????????????

gigabyteTroubadour · Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:58 pm

v/la until friday, phone broke and it'll be tough to catch up at a normal pace for me - across all games but only posting here

once i go out and get a train ticket i'll be back here. left off at page 139.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3507 (isolation #87) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:29 pm

zzzz back finally

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3509 (isolation #88) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:34 pm

hey

so far the plan sounds good with vedith and kelvin

also alban's reads are still really off if he's doubling down on kelvin/rc scum

he's the kind of scum who does push really weird lynches so i could do that. still though if we're not getting a replacement for navy it might be better to lynch that slot and save the mod the trouble of getting a replace in and cop alban. either way i'm down

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3510 (isolation #89) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:38 pm

In post 3469, Titus wrote:We can play this type of game on that but you know I don't coast.

uhhhhh

you totally coasted the last diffusion of power :/

tbf that was more on the town than not (i was kind of bullied out of my scumread of you by trans (and myself mostly)) but still......

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3512 (isolation #90) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:43 pm

yeah finished catching up

not moving my vote at this point because the game feels mechanical more than read-based now which is fine for me - alban or navy are both perfectly fine lynches and we have n4 prs planned out. cool cool.

basically pending a navy replacement.

{vedith}
{rc, kelvin}
{gamma, titus}
------------------- null
{alban, navy}

game feels basically solved here

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3514 (isolation #91) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:11 pm

uh do we care about a navy replacement

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3562 (isolation #92) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:11 am

Declaring intent

Like I said alban, your thought process in continuing to suspect kelvin as scum seems off and motivated by keeping the lynches you need to win around

Also what hatred? This is the least toxic I've seen this town be.

Will hammer after work, typing on an ancient iPad rn that deleted this entire post twice.

gigabyteTroubadour · Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:52 pm

dunn should have done a soviet hammer

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3641 (isolation #94) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:05 pm

thank you.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #3643 (isolation #95) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:40 pm

so far i dont think a red soviet hammer has failed to help me win

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:15 am

alright so those results

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:15 am

why would you investigate me after the mathblade lynch................................................... :///

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:16 am

?

that's a bad cop imo but not what the fuck worthy

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:17 am

wait wasnt gamma supposed to cop a doctor

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:18 am

In post 3659, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: RadiantCowbells
Because it has to be RC + Navy

why can't it be titus/rc or titus/navy...?

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:28 am

In post 3671, Dunnstral wrote:I'm actually town though

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

what do you think you're doing

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:29 am

gamma can you unvote too until we get vedith's result

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:30 am

In post 3677, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3673, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 3671, Dunnstral wrote:I'm actually town though

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
what do you think you're doing
Scum can't quickhammer unless two Town misvote though

yeah i know thats why dunn's vote is random af

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:39 pm

Dunn, who was the N1 protect?

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:39 pm

good job

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:39 pm

i guess scum just tried to shoot one of their own

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:41 pm

i know his doesnt matter since his slot claimed to protect gamma

i'm trying to think if he thinks njac or creature was killed

i need some baseline to form on dunn

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:44 pm

ok

VOTE: dunn

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:44 pm

jk lol

VOTE: gamma

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:46 pm

i'd rather just lynch the guilty tbh

i guess it's the same either way but still

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:47 pm

yeah thats basically where i'm at

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:51 pm

You're Not_Mafia?

Never in a million years would I have guessed.

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:53 pm

VEDITH

pedit: wouldnt that be hammer

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:54 pm

well he said he's never not mafia so book 'im lads and titus

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:54 pm

*not not mafia

gigabyteTroubadour · Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:55 pm

hey wait i'm conftown

UNVOTE:

i want to hammer this lmfaooo

i'll stop shitposting dw

RadiantCowbells wrote:is there some reason not to hammer?

titus's v/la?

it's the weekend right?

so maybe we should wait a day so that she's back by the start of D6

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gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:23 am

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:45 am

oh man

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:51 am

lol same

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:51 am

anyway i'll read the game for real tomorrow

dunn you better get ready

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:58 am

im kind of personally slighted tho whoever took me to mylo

im a good player i swear

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:06 am

probably not?
i think it's dunn but i dont mind rereading to be sure

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3780, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:anyway i'll read the game for real tomorrow

dunn you better get ready
I'm town

then show me

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:10 am

i townread grundy my first read through and im very confident raybells is town and was the one who protected me

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:18 am

i think everyone kills vedith

and it hurts me

it really does

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:08 am

yeah i recognize that dunnie

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:43 am

In post 3793, Dunnstral wrote:I'm wondering why Titus would kill vedith

Makes me suspect rc a bit

if rc is scum, a widely scumread creature was the n1 kill or there was a no kill

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:11 pm

in what sense

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:13 pm

probably but i dont feel too great rn lmao

gigabyteTroubadour · Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:49 pm

i thought sheep's push on grundy was kind of bs and navy's reaction to jj's replace in was weird

gigabyteTroubadour · Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:49 pm

i think you're both beautiful

how do we feel about hammertesting raybells

gigabyteTroubadour · Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:49 pm

mostly because i dont want to put in the effort of triple checking he's town but if i have to i will

gigabyteTroubadour · Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:19 pm

rc dont scare me like this i hate trying to read you so i just default to townreading you

though sparkles was townie so

gigabyteTroubadour · Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:22 pm

;_;

if you're scum promise to soviet hammer o7

i'm also not hammertesting you until dunn and titus agree

gigabyteTroubadour · Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:24 pm

gotta wait for toitus

gigabyteTroubadour · Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:03 am

dunn

your scumhunting feels really passive and reactive thus far - why did it just now take my argument to stop you from scumreading raybells when i was constantly bringing it up?

raybells has basically covered what else is bothering me about both of you though

gigabyteTroubadour · Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:26 pm

titus, i would like to have your permission to hammertest btw

when i get the chance to reread i need to know if i actually should care about raybells's alignment here

gigabyteTroubadour · Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:46 pm

i dont want the guilt of losing to scum RC to a hammertest when everyone wasnt confident

and i'll explain hang on

gigabyteTroubadour · Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:48 pm

In post 3857, Dunnstral wrote:Right - you're not going to win games just voting anyone who voices suspicion of you. VOTE: RadiantCowbells

like this vote didnt make an iota of sense in context

why vote for raybells when we

just

talked about the no-kill?

and earlier in the game, why give a shitty answer to the "who do you think was killed n1" question rather than look into it?

same w the alban hammer, i feel like you would have at least done some research into the game when just replacing in rather than hammering even if the game felt like it was in autolock if you were town

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3880, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i dont want the guilt of losing to scum RC to a hammertest when everyone wasnt confident

and i'll explain hang on
how about hammertesting me instead

then we can get somewhere

lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

gigabyteTroubadour · Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:51 pm

no, i firmly believe that you're the type of person who would at least read the game before hammering when replacing in

or would at least look into a relevant question asked's context

gigabyteTroubadour · Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:54 pm

ok, fair enough.

i'm going to wait for titus then so i can get the ok for hammertesting and then i'll reread the game

do recall grundy not being as townie as i thought last glance i took so thats good for you

gigabyteTroubadour · Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:55 pm

fwiw most of my ability in reading you (and most specific players i read well

- kraskas the only person i can say i read her midgame best) comes from your earlygame lol

pedit: not really no. my judgement is clouded from PYP with Lyon and Spring Fever

gigabyteTroubadour · Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:01 pm

In post 3890, Dunnstral wrote:We were scum in spring fever

i mean thats part of the point

she hard defended scum via vca in both games - wouldnt call that playing well

i think her insistence on working together/wanting policy lynches/criticizing raybells/kelvin/vedith for inciting discord is townie coming from her

like i would expect scum titus to be more logical and calculating i guess

im not denying it's possible btw it's just i'm like 40% her 60% you

gigabyteTroubadour · Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:04 pm

i'm not hammertesting you.

gigabyteTroubadour · Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:06 pm

think he's sleeping

i'm conking out too tbh

gigabyteTroubadour · Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:47 am

In post 3915, Almost50 wrote:alban protects Creature
Agent Sparkles shoots Creature
Creature investigates NOBODY

i want to die

gigabyteTroubadour · Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:45 am

yeah i agree alban was obvtown and i have no clue why i let myself get bullied out of that read but it happens lmfao

kinda had a feeling something was up with rc not agreeing there but i didnt really pursue it bc by mylo i was just really tired

gigabyteTroubadour · Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:46 pm

i didnt get the connection

and actually the first was pyp with cards lol - werent you the hammeree or was it AA9