Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[MathBlade]

Alban, I'm only lynching between Navy/Mathblade today and my case strongly relies on POE within the cops since I don't think all the doctors are scum.

RC is town. I've read D1 and neither Creature nor Gamma make sense as N1 kills. I was the shot that night. I know and acknowledge he has a good scum game but Agent Sparkles was also very town and the mechanics suggest he's town. RC being town heavily implies he's reading titus correctly and she and grundy are also obvious town. From that alone, there has to be one scum cop from your pov.

Firmly leaving your vote on RC, who's never getting lynched today, isn't helping anyone. Vote Navy if not Mathblade, but an RC vote is not going to do anything when there's 1 day to deadline left.

I will help "bus" Navy. (I am not scum but everyone keeps saying I am scum with Navy when I have been offering to lynch Navy all day *rolls eyes*)

VOTE: Navy

[gigabyteTroubadour]

alban i hope those last two posts from mathblade suffice for a case

[gigabyteTroubadour]

navy if you're town vote mathblade.

[alban]

Alban, I'm only lynching between Navy/Mathblade today and my case strongly relies on POE within the cops since I don't think all the doctors are scum.

I am fine with it.

RC is town. I've read D1 and neither Creature nor Gamma make sense as N1 kills. I was the shot that night. I know and acknowledge he has a good scum game but Agent Sparkles was also very town and the mechanics suggest he's town. RC being town heavily implies he's reading titus correctly and she and grundy are also obvious town. From that alone, there has to be one scum cop from your pov.

One question. If Titus is town coz RC reads her as town, why isn't Math town coz Titus reads them town? Why are you placing RC's scumread of Math above Titus's townread of them? Are you saying Titus is town only/mostly coz RC reads them town?

Firmly leaving your vote on RC, who's never getting lynched today, isn't helping anyone. Vote Navy if not Mathblade, but an RC vote is not going to do anything when there's 1 day to deadline left.

The vote on RC stayed only coz I didn't care to unvote. I know that wagon isn't going anywhere, and also maybe I am wrong coz everyone seems to be townreading him, even people who otherwise come from the opposite ends of the spectrum.
UNVOTE: RC

[gigabyteTroubadour]

One question. If Titus is town coz RC reads her as town, why isn't Math town coz Titus reads them town? Why are you placing RC's scumread of Math above Titus's townread of them? Are you saying Titus is town only/mostly coz RC reads them town?

I guess you're right that it's a double standard but I strongly believe that RC is able to read Titus accurately while Mathblade is generally incomprehensible as either alignment (though I feel like I'm starting to pick up on some of their tells). I don't think Titus has a consistent record of being able to read Mathblade correctly either.

What is your read on Mathblade either way?

[Titus]

Alban, I'd like to hear reads from you.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

[Titus]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Why on Math?

[MathBlade]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

[Titus]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

Can you give me a third scumread if Kelvin is town?

[MathBlade]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

Can you give me a third scumread if Kelvin is town?

In the extreme ridiculous case Kelvin is town Vedith would be scum.

[Titus]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

Can you give me a third scumread if Kelvin is town?

In the extreme ridiculous case Kelvin is town Vedith would be scum.

Math, I know you've been locked onto Kelvin's play being scummy but in the scenario you present, it likely doesn't fit. He'd be creating a setup where the desired lynch is always in his team. Doesn't make sense.

Why would Vedith be scummy?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Why on Math?

I don't think there are three scum doctors. Ergo there's at least 1 scum in {Paul, Gamma, Vedith, Math}

Paul and Gamma are obvtown by meta and just general posting from what i've seen from paul's D1 and Gamma's play since I replaced in.

That leaves Vedith and Math. I was kind of OK with Lunae's posting and thought she was kind of town, while Hellfire Missile's posts seem really off, especially considering his reputation for being the constantly confused newbie. He found his footing too quickly IMO

and math's posts have just been straight up scumclaims so far. no one is insinuating they're bussing navy (yes i teamread them but that's more from POE than interactions) and theyre trying to take responsibility for that lynch while taking none for alban from how they're talking about it - "oh i've been telling you guys to lynch navy so help me 'bus' already"

[Titus]

I don't think saying help me bus is a scumclaim. I'm still investigating some Vedith things.

What I am 100% worried about is something like RC Vedith Paul. :/

[MathBlade]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

Can you give me a third scumread if Kelvin is town?

In the extreme ridiculous case Kelvin is town Vedith would be scum.

Math, I know you've been locked onto Kelvin's play being scummy but in the scenario you present, it likely doesn't fit. He'd be creating a setup where the desired lynch is always in his team. Doesn't make sense.

Why would Vedith be scummy?

It isn't so much Vedith scummy it is I townread everyone else more.

[Titus]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

Can you give me a third scumread if Kelvin is town?

In the extreme ridiculous case Kelvin is town Vedith would be scum.

Math, I know you've been locked onto Kelvin's play being scummy but in the scenario you present, it likely doesn't fit. He'd be creating a setup where the desired lynch is always in his team. Doesn't make sense.

Why would Vedith be scummy?

It isn't so much Vedith scummy it is I townread everyone else more.

Ok, can you say why everyone is town? Particularly RC?

Where do you think cops should investigate?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I don't think saying help me bus is a scumclaim. I'm still investigating some Vedith things.

What I am 100% worried about is something like RC Vedith Paul. :/

i refuse to believe that gamma or creature are killed n1 this game

[Titus]

I don't think saying help me bus is a scumclaim. I'm still investigating some Vedith things.

What I am 100% worried about is something like RC Vedith Paul. :/

i refuse to believe that gamma or creature are killed n1 this game

I think Creature makes the most sense as the N1 kill.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Why...?

[MathBlade]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

Can you give me a third scumread if Kelvin is town?

In the extreme ridiculous case Kelvin is town Vedith would be scum.

Math, I know you've been locked onto Kelvin's play being scummy but in the scenario you present, it likely doesn't fit. He'd be creating a setup where the desired lynch is always in his team. Doesn't make sense.

Why would Vedith be scummy?

It isn't so much Vedith scummy it is I townread everyone else more.

Ok, can you say why everyone is town? Particularly RC?

Where do you think cops should investigate?

Cops should investigate me.

And because RC is being arrogant. In the game I saw him as scum (Civ) he wasn't and tried to control more. Here is arrogant but is trying to work with you.

[Titus]

I don't see that but ok.

[Almost50]

VC 3.15

Mathblade

(4): Kelvin Smith, gigabyteTroubadour, NotTheRealPaul, Gamma Emerald,

Navy

(3): Vedith, Titus, Mathblade,

alban

(1): RadiantCowbells,

Not Voting

(2): Navy, alban,
With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-07-09 21:50:00)

[Kelvin Smith]

...I have been offline and my three are Kelvin Navy Alban.

Just to be clear, the fantasy that you are trying to spin is that all three scum claimed Doctor? And that Mutton, who initially claimed Cop, actually switched his claim to also be Doctor?

The absurdity of this post alone is almost grounds enough for lynching you.

I am not trying to "spin" anything. Those are my scumreads.

Those reads make no sense. Why would Mutton fake to ensure the optimal lynch was always in the scum pool? If Mutton's scum, it makes more sense his buddies are cops than doctors.

This was already asked and answered.

He forgot his fake claim or was playing suboptimally.

People don't always play optimally.

"He forgot"? He forgot what? That the whole scum team agreed that they were going to claim Doctor together?

[Kelvin Smith]

And yeah, I know that both Giga and Gamma are already on the wagon, but maybe they will change their mind once you put together your case. I really want them to go through your reasons on Math being a scum.

There will be no case from me. I've said everything about Math that needs saying. And why would they feel any desire to change their votes when they each independently scumread Math? That doesn't even make sense.

Your choice.
They may change their case since sometimes people go by the reads of their townreads, and they should know how flimsy your arguments are.

I'm going to restrain myself from going off on you for that comment, because I'm really trying not to get into a full-blown fight here. But consider this: perhaps my argument is not flimsy, but rather your reasoning is.

[Titus]

@alban/giga,

How likely do you think it is RC Kelvin and Math are pulling some wierd gambit like 685?