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Hi all I will have to read this after work was reading the old thread. *wave*ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Making a reads list and not following through is horrible. Asking if someone is scum and then not sorting them in a potential world is ridiculous. Kindheartedly your reads are shit.I will place a vote here until I figure out if your reads are Town shit or scum shit.
VOTE: CommKnight
Sell me on the current wagons people. Why are they a thing?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Uhm why? On all this?In post 1235, Torque wrote:ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Moving on. Again, Comm Knight scum claims here. Seems like Comm really wants to throw shade onto Epic. On top of that he asks what it could be. It could be anything. No townie post of Comm's I have seen says. "So you don't agree with my posts?" You're scum.In post 1288, CommKnight wrote:Because your reasoning would be shit.
Comm knight has played and seen me enough to know that disagreeing with a reason doesn't justify this.
What has to happen is finding the heart and the intent of people.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Epic Comm Knight fight feels staged.In post 1292, Epic Fial wrote:More later...
The two VCs between the ones I've been discussing are worth looking at...
Townreads on aubrey and flavor leaf on the last page.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Looked at the latest wagons and I can support a flubber lynch.In post 1248, Flubbernugget wrote:
Why is there no wagon on a player trying to promote two back to back no lynchesIn post 1240, Quick wrote:
Great, than you lynched town because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯In post 1231, Flubbernugget wrote:
Hey look at that it's the answers to the questions I didn't answerIn post 1204, Flubbernugget wrote:I wasn't hard sold on lalendra being scum (I listed my scum team later that day too) and compromise lynches are for the sake of flips, making them likely to land on town
This town is very uncooperative with each other. Scum doesn't want that to change, so it's in their interest to kill someone who wasn't changing the state of the game much.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Quick is probably bamboozled Town or Epic is just Town and the Epic comm Knight fight is real.In post 1268, Quick wrote:I am liking Epic a lot more for Town recently.
Of the choices I take flubber.
Not voting there so no quick hammers happen and I can do a thorough read later.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So flubber is confirmed Town.In post 1305, CommKnight wrote:
Do better Math, ISO me and watch my reads evolve. Don't be part of the reason we can't lynch scum. No one believed me that Lale was town and look where that got us. No one would help vote Maki. No one is helping to vote Epic.In post 1299, MathBlade wrote:CommKnight
Making a reads list and not following through is horrible. Asking if someone is scum and then not sorting them in a potential world is ridiculous. Kindheartedly your reads are shit.I will place a vote here until I figure out if your reads are Town shit or scum shit.
VOTE: CommKnight
Sell me on the current wagons people. Why are they a thing?
Instead everyone wants to lynch Flubber who I'm saying is going to flip town.
You watch.
Thanks for that.
So all the wagons suck. Comm + Epic + ???
And on the last page alone there is a contradiction. Let me highlight it for everyone.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 1275, CommKnight wrote:@Flavor, I'm sorta mixed on you. One hand, there's a high likelyhood you're scum(but if Flubber were to flip sucm then I'd reverse that read), but what do you think of Epic? Is he town in your eyes?
So in the case of Flubber flipping town there is still something that would make you change your mind.In post 1278, CommKnight wrote:Well 3 teams I see.
- Maki, Epic, Flavor
- Maki, Epic, Flubber
-Maki, Epic, Chisa
There'll be more time to find the third scum once we eliminate the first two.
Your reads are illogical Comm.
You're just trying to be manipulative and rile people up.
So from this post sequence alone we gain flubber Town flavor Town Chisa Town Epic prob scum by rule of three Maki Town.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Comm and Epic and dunno who the third is.
Either of which is fine by me.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Still the case of Comm trying to manipulate me to not lynch flubber but I doubt that.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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You hate that i team hunt every game and hate my playstyle soooo I am gonna say you hate it?In post 1310, Quick wrote:
Pretty sure you know what I have to say to this Math.In post 1306, MathBlade wrote:Comm + Epic + ???ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Either that or say you think ??? Is FlubberScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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1) I didn't contract myself. I was considering a world and then threw it out.In post 1313, CommKnight wrote:Okay, I've seen bad Math logic. But this is just horrendous even for him.
He even contradicted himself. Is Epic town or is he scum Math?
2) They is my pronoun.
3) I see how it is. Don't address any of the points I have made and just call me horrendous.
4) 75%scum. You're 90%.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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The creds.In post 1315, CommKnight wrote:Besides the fact there is 50 pages worth of content before you replaced in. Yeah, I'm going to have little patience with you when town has been consistently pushing against my preferred lynches and here you are trying to derail town once again. I hate to say it, but we only have one mislynch left before LYLO, so buckle down and give me a bloody chance to lynch scum for once this game without someone pushing the lynch onto yet another townie.
Also either you're not analyzing it or you have an agenda behind the ignorance. But I've been actively saying NO to the Flubber lynch. So if you think he's town, why the hell do you think I'd be scum trying to veer the wagon away from an easy mislynch when we're one lynch away from being put in LYLO?
Want pissed off Comm? You're gonna get pissed off Comm. The one who doesn't put up with bullshit from replacements when I nearly have it figured out.
Going to work.
And no. You really don't.
Then again you never really put first things first anyway. You aren't actually pushing your top scumread you're probably bussing Epic for the creds.
Scum do actually stay off wagons when it suits them. It is a tactic I have used before.
I am just debating if I vote Epic to make your bus easier or if I stay on you.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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And again you don't address my points.
Fun times. Let's lynch Comm KnightScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Then help me lynch Comm. And yeah I was right you hate my playstyle.In post 1317, Quick wrote:
Pre-Flip. It doesn't work.In post 1311, MathBlade wrote:
You hate that i team hunt every game and hate my playstyle soooo I am gonna say you hate it?In post 1310, Quick wrote:
Pretty sure you know what I have to say to this Math.In post 1306, MathBlade wrote:Comm + Epic + ???ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don't give a shit what my predecessor thought.In post 1320, CommKnight wrote:In post 1160, lucca261 wrote:let's talk business:
- paranoia is starting to pile up. seeing more scummy slots join the wagon is expected, but Chisa and Epic with me feel strange.
- another instance of paranoia: when scummy scummy flavor opposes the wagon, I'll never know if it is scum defending his partner/scum gauging up doubt
some final reads for today:
- town: I'm town, quick is 99% town, aubrey is probtown
- townlean: maki and comm
- null: epic and flub
- scumlean: chisa and nk15
- scum: lalendra and flavor, who knows
I was really feeling it earlier D2, couple days passed I'm not sure anymore, so there's that.
^ Your predecessor's reads. I'm beginning to think you do have an objective outside of finding actual scum. I hate to say it, but I'm retracting my read from Lucca's slot solely due to Math's play thus far being rather anti-town.
My brain doesn't work like normal people's. Furthermore the reads are objectively wrong as lalendra flipped Town.
Why would I follow someone whose reads are proven wrong?
Like this is more "Hey don't listen to Math. I don't wanna interact with their points so I am just gonna say they suck"ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Point 1) Your illogical read comment on Flavor which I already bolded.
2) Your fight with Epic feels fake.
3) You're not actively pushing just sitting disengaged and going "waaaah Town sucks" and then actively saying people you townread suck
4) You're not interacting with the points just someone who doesn't do what you want sucks.
You're not helping.
If you genuinely think Flubber is Town point out the townie things Flubber has done.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Comm Epic QuickIn post 1327, Quick wrote:
I was reading Maki as Town early, but I expected them to pick up some better content. I was thinking that they were just feeling things out. That better solvay content never really came, which is a disappointment.In post 1326, CommKnight wrote:2.3-2.4 vote counts do have me on Maki.
In post 1081, Torque wrote: [/color]
VOTE: Maki
YOLO.
Damn was waaay too fast to rule that Quick was Town holy fuck that is a bad post.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Why thank you. So then why is your vote on Maki?In post 1332, Quick wrote:
Game over, Math wins.In post 1329, MathBlade wrote:
Comm Epic QuickIn post 1327, Quick wrote:
I was reading Maki as Town early, but I expected them to pick up some better content. I was thinking that they were just feeling things out. That better solvay content never really came, which is a disappointment.In post 1326, CommKnight wrote:2.3-2.4 vote counts do have me on Maki.
In post 1081, Torque wrote: [/color]
VOTE: Maki
YOLO.
Damn was waaay too fast to rule that Quick was Town holy fuck that is a bad post.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Quick why didn't you push Comm for dodging your question?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Comm you gonna answer this and Quick's question?In post 1328, MathBlade wrote:Point 1) Your illogical read comment on Flavor which I already bolded.
2) Your fight with Epic feels fake.
3) You're not actively pushing just sitting disengaged and going "waaaah Town sucks" and then actively saying people you townread suck
4) You're not interacting with the points just someone who doesn't do what you want sucks.
You're not helping.
If you genuinely think Flubber is Town point out the townie things Flubber has done.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaIn post 1335, CommKnight wrote:@Aubrey and Flubber. Get on Maki today. That will give us 4, then we just need a 5th person to vote. Give me a chance to actually get scum lynched today. You both know I've been constant with my reads throughout the game. ISO me if you have to again and look at my current suspects with who I've read earlier as scum. This is a game where I'm on the mark.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Okay so you didn't push him.In post 1338, Quick wrote:
Because I am sleep deprived and am in too many game atm. Sorry that's the reason.In post 1334, MathBlade wrote:Quick why didn't you push Comm for dodging your question?
This also means you admit it is fishy.
So then why are you voting with him?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Also in your sleep deprivation you aren't putting first things first.
For shame. For shame.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Want to know a secret?In post 1341, Quick wrote:
Want to know a secret?In post 1339, MathBlade wrote:
Okay so you didn't push him.In post 1338, Quick wrote:
Because I am sleep deprived and am in too many game atm. Sorry that's the reason.In post 1334, MathBlade wrote:Quick why didn't you push Comm for dodging your question?
This also means you admit it is fishy.
So then why are you voting with him?
I can see Scum motive in pretty much every post.
That doesn't answer my question.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 1342, CommKnight wrote:1.) Flavor is on the fence for me. If Flubber were to somehow flip scum, based on my CONSISTENT reads this game, I'd townread Flavor. But otherwise, I'd nail Flavor up as scum.
2.) Not much of a fight calling Epic out as scum.
3.) Bullshit. ISO me. I've BEEN pushing people ALL GAME.
4.) Because the points are things you can find for yourself by ISO'ING ME.
Now then, Maki is the push today. Quick agrees. Are you going to call the town players scum for pushing someone who has so much resistance against their wagon? Why don't you scumread Maki, have you even read anything they've said so far? Have you ISO'd them?
Get a grip man. Quick and I have been at each others' throats most of the day D1 and since D2 we've left each other alone as each are TvT with disagreement on who's scum. Now we're both agreeing on Maki. So get the hell on board. The two towniest players this game finally agree on a scum read. That's when you know it's gotta be right.
1) There is a world you posited that disagrees other what you said.
2) Oh no its a fight when you interacted with Epic. Just a bad one.
3) I scumread you Comm Epic and Quick. No room for Maki and how you are pushing them I townread them.
And nah. No way in hell Maki is scum with how you push them with how you're pushed.
Gotta work now.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Nah I would be saving it.In post 1348, CommKnight wrote:@Quick, thank **** we're not in LYLO because Math would've just lose town the game.
I am calling in any towncred my slot had. Were lynching Comm.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Great we're lynching you today. Just a matter of when.In post 1350, CommKnight wrote:Hell, I'll 1v1 Maki. If only for the fact that if town doesn't listen to me today, they sure as hell won't listen to me tomorrow when we will need 3 correct lynches in a row.
Also if this was LYLO Math, with you saying you're off to work, you'd leave a big window open for scum to hammer without much resistance.
Lynch this scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Also RL comes first always.In post 1350, CommKnight wrote:Hell, I'll 1v1 Maki. If only for the fact that if town doesn't listen to me today, they sure as hell won't listen to me tomorrow when we will need 3 correct lynches in a row.
Also if this was LYLO Math, with you saying you're off to work, you'd leave a big window open for scum to hammer without much resistance.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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It is very enjoyable. Please read it first. Summary is Comm Knight can't take being pressured so anyone who pushes Comm Knight "sucks". He gets annoyed by me pointing out contradictions in his "consistency".In post 1356, CommKnight wrote:
It's not enjoyable. Feel free to skip it. Summary is Math makes up bullshit that can be answered if he reads the thread and I get annoyed with it and call him out on it.In post 1355, Aubrey wrote:I came in expecting to read a comment or two on break only to be greeted by pages. Will read in depth later. Scrolling quickly seems to be a Comm and Math bicker battle that I doubt will be overly enjoyable to read.
Vote Maki.
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Reaction testing. I want to see how CommKnight takes this.In post 1358, Quick wrote:
Why are you arguing with your SR?In post 1357, MathBlade wrote:
It is very enjoyable. Please read it first. Summary is Comm Knight can't take being pressured so anyone who pushes Comm Knight "sucks". He gets annoyed by me pointing out contradictions in his "consistency".In post 1356, CommKnight wrote:
It's not enjoyable. Feel free to skip it. Summary is Math makes up bullshit that can be answered if he reads the thread and I get annoyed with it and call him out on it.In post 1355, Aubrey wrote:I came in expecting to read a comment or two on break only to be greeted by pages. Will read in depth later. Scrolling quickly seems to be a Comm and Math bicker battle that I doubt will be overly enjoyable to read.
Vote Maki.
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Comm is voting you buddy? LikeIn post 1359, Maki Harukawa wrote:
Would you really townread someone for this I don't think you would so I'm questioning why you're bringing up this statementIn post 1272, Flavor Leaf wrote:Pretty funny how I’m being ran up now even though I was one of the people most against the Lalendra wagon.
Talk to me on this because I can see flavor and Flub teammates why can't you?In post 1275, CommKnight wrote:@Flavor, I'm sorta mixed on you. One hand, there's a high likelyhood you're scum (but if Flubber were to flip sucm then I'd reverse that read), but what do you think of Epic? Is he town in your eyes?MATHHHHH <3 *Hug* Buddy pal friend
@ComWhy aren't you voting me I see that a lot of people seem to sr me but aren't giving reasons or voting me
Do you think I am right on Comm?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Harsh amiga. Harsh.In post 1362, Maki Harukawa wrote:Also oh great another game I have to read Mathblade inScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Talk with me about why.
I strongly feel like Comm is taunting us.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So? I don't see anything scum wouldn't do. Or that I haven't done as scum.
He is showing emotion. So what?
Telling what you believe to be the truth (or just the truth in the case of scum) is not alignment indicative else every game I have I would be Town.
Help me to see what you see. What this reads as to me is desperate scum and the fact neither of the two were lynched to me is suspicious.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Furthermore the (if I am alive) is rather redundant. Of course if you are dead then you are not pushing anyone. That specific parenthesis was probably added because it feels townie versus is townie.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Comm is more focused on slamming me than he is saving flubber from the lynch. I asked Flubber why and Comm Knight never answered. Comm Knight imho wants us to mislynch flubber.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Ditto for you.In post 1371, Quick wrote:Math is really hit of miss for me.
I find whoever I push you instantly townread then compromise on the person I scumread and then they flip scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Then what am I hit on? What am I miss on?In post 1373, Quick wrote:
I was talking about this game.In post 1372, MathBlade wrote:
Ditto for you.In post 1371, Quick wrote:Math is really hit of miss for me.
I find whoever I push you instantly townread then compromise on the person I scumread and then they flip scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Okay...Let's assume that the consensus is I am a shitty Town player.In post 1375, Quick wrote:
HitIn post 1368, MathBlade wrote:So? I don't see anything scum wouldn't do. Or that I haven't done as scum.
He is showing emotion. So what?
Telling what you believe to be the truth (or just the truth in the case of scum) is not alignment indicative else every game I have I would be Town.
Miss.Help me to see what you see. What this reads as to me is desperate scum and the fact neither of the two were lynched to me is suspicious.
Stuff like that.
Instead of saying "I suck" help me better. Don't just say "Miss" or "Its math" tell me what I can do better. Connect the dots.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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They...If you're gonna insist that I am scum or no longer lock Town simply because I scumread you get my pronoun right.In post 1378, CommKnight wrote:My read on Lucca's slot (Math) is wavering. Lucca was almost lock-town for me. I mean I know Math can tunnel people and push town, he regularly does this. But this just feels fake. It doesn't even seem like he's trying to look at people. There's 3 scum and he's so dead-set on me being scum that he's failing to reason out who would have to be my two partners.
Even in Maki's quote I was looking at Maki and Epic since D1. I'm beginning to see a Maki, Epic, and Math team potential.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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........In post 1379, Quick wrote:
Not true. Hes said it was you me and Epic.In post 1378, CommKnight wrote:My read on Lucca's slot (Math) is wavering. Lucca was almost lock-town for me. I mean I know Math can tunnel people and push town, he regularly does this. But this just feels fake. It doesn't even seem like he's trying to look at people. There's 3 scum and he's so dead-set on me being scum that he's failing to reason out who would have to be my two partners.
Even in Maki's quote I was looking at Maki and Epic since D1. I'm beginning to see a Maki, Epic, and Math team potential.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Tone can't be good or bad. That is emotion. Reasoning far fetched << Why do you think this? If you feel my reasoning is bad tell me why.In post 1377, Quick wrote:
"Help me see what you see." Terrible tone. Far fetched reasoning with more bad tone.In post 1376, MathBlade wrote:
Okay...Let's assume that the consensus is I am a shitty Town player.In post 1375, Quick wrote:
HitIn post 1368, MathBlade wrote:So? I don't see anything scum wouldn't do. Or that I haven't done as scum.
He is showing emotion. So what?
Telling what you believe to be the truth (or just the truth in the case of scum) is not alignment indicative else every game I have I would be Town.
Miss.Help me to see what you see. What this reads as to me is desperate scum and the fact neither of the two were lynched to me is suspicious.
Stuff like that.
Instead of saying "I suck" help me better. Don't just say "Miss" or "Its math" tell me what I can do better. Connect the dots.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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That isn't a logical flaw.In post 1383, Quick wrote:
Lack of doubt.In post 1382, MathBlade wrote:
Tone can't be good or bad. That is emotion. Reasoning far fetched << Why do you think this? If you feel my reasoning is bad tell me why.In post 1377, Quick wrote:
"Help me see what you see." Terrible tone. Far fetched reasoning with more bad tone.In post 1376, MathBlade wrote:
Okay...Let's assume that the consensus is I am a shitty Town player.In post 1375, Quick wrote:
HitIn post 1368, MathBlade wrote:So? I don't see anything scum wouldn't do. Or that I haven't done as scum.
He is showing emotion. So what?
Telling what you believe to be the truth (or just the truth in the case of scum) is not alignment indicative else every game I have I would be Town.
Miss.Help me to see what you see. What this reads as to me is desperate scum and the fact neither of the two were lynched to me is suspicious.
Stuff like that.
Instead of saying "I suck" help me better. Don't just say "Miss" or "Its math" tell me what I can do better. Connect the dots.
It can be argued I am arrogant fine. That doesn't mean wrong or far fetched.
I am damn sure 2+2 is 4.
Should I doubt that?
Get specific.
Tell me what on my read is wrong. Show me whatspecificallyI am doing wrong.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Obviously you disagree with my scumread of you.
Obviously you disagree with my scumread of Comm and still haven't followed up with Comm despite my insistence that you should have with your question. Instead you sheep him. Whatspecificallyin your reads, not math, am I missing? What makes you not push him?
What specifically makes you not talk about Epic?
What specifically is "Miss" about my play/style here?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If you're Town (again I doubt this) you have an opinion on this. Elaborate on your opinion. When I am trying to read you saying it'sIn post 1387, Quick wrote:
I have been pushing him.In post 1386, MathBlade wrote:Obviously you disagree with my scumread of you.
Obviously you disagree with my scumread of Comm and still haven't followed up with Comm despite my insistence that you should have with your question. Instead you sheep him. Whatspecificallyin your reads, not math, am I missing? What makes you not push him?
What specifically makes you not talk about Epic?
What specifically is "Miss" about my play/style here?
He doesn't respond. That is for Town to figure out.Town's problemto read Comm Knight and therefore not yours that is bad. Tell me what YOU think of Comm Knight's play since YOU are sheeping and pushing him two differing reads.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I interact with people in real time. This creates posts.In post 1388, Aubrey wrote:Another page? Lolololol, I’ve been thinking this game needed an energy boost but dear god.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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With a post like that I could compromise on flubber and maybe the epic/comm knight fight was genuine.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Would much rather lynch Comm or Quick though.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Spoiler: From Mastina's VCA Guide
Let's see where this gets us.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 1169, Torque wrote:
Lalendra has been lynched! They are aVanilla Town.
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In post 890, Torque wrote: [/color]ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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We know 100% certain Jamiet was Town.
This means CommKnight was the Counter wagon. The question is whether Comm Knight is scum or not.
Setting my thoughts aside a moment, let's look at each case.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Assume Comm Knight is town. Then there would be a relevant IDGAF which wagon it is.
We know northside, Not 15/Awoo were Town because of the NK. I know I am Town. This means that with the assumption Comm Knight is town that entire wagon on Jaime would be Town.
Now compare to the Comm Knight wagon, Epic Fial, Quick, Maki and Jaime.
Jaime was Town. This would make at most two of Epic, Quick, Maki scum.
But what is odd and counter to that argument is that any scum on the Comm Knight switch to The other lynch to not no lynch. This distribution does not make sense for the assumption Comm knight is town. Therefore it is much more likely comm Knight is scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Unless the team is specifically, flubber, Aubrey, Flavor Leaf. Day two there was no counterwagon to Lalendra lynch.
I could see scum pushing two bad wagons just to make sure no hindrance got to the Lalendra lynch. Let's compare that against today's votes.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Flubber again still on Quick. Aubrey on Flavor Leaf and Flavor Leaf on Epic.In post 1404, Torque wrote:ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Flubber here isn't reading. I townread and scumread Quick with certain people.In post 1403, Flubbernugget wrote:Page 54
The turn of events is interesting. I usually ignore MathBlade when they replace into my games, but I want to see if there's any credence on their notes with comm knight
On the other hand, comm is working to get one of my scum reads lynched (though them town reading quick really sucks)ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 1208, Aubrey wrote:
By defending myself, and stating that scum could be killing a direct threat, OR potentially setting up a frame kill?In post 1206, lucca261 wrote:how quickly he misdirected to Chisa her own suspicion.
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Awoo did a poor job in hiding whether or not she was a mason. Unless scum are dense, that was not a power-role check, but rather an intentional kill with the hope of an after-effect. NK15 only talked about three people (start of day I forgot he went after Chisa). That is not a lot of people, and a relative small pool of info for people to look into.So.... few suspects, short and easy ISO, it isn't shocking why people would quickly assume he was onto something after an early death. Now look at the slots in question, Me, Chisa, and Epic. You have 2 slots who have had a healthy dose of suspicion, and were easy lynch targets going into today, and myself who was highly against the Lalendra slot who has now flipped town.
Pre-night 2: Epic and Chisa are slots who were likely going to face scrutiny going into tomorrow due to poor performance. It doesn't make sense from a scum point of view for them to really kill off someone like NK15 who has only gone after 3 people in order to relieve pressure form their slots. Then you have me and everything I said in Post 1186 who has sat damn pretty this whole game. What's one person (who can't even fight back when questioned) really going to do to me, especially when I'm not even his main target? The night kill just doesn't make a lot of sense for any of us to make to me.In post 1230, Aubrey wrote:So why is Flubber being voted again? This game has a popular trend of unexplained votes/wagons it seems.In post 1270, Aubrey wrote:Logical wagon. I can agree with said wagon. People on it that I like. VOTE: Flavor.
Maki's 1267 is a tad off-putting as well. Why would you try to incriminate whoever lands the hammering blow to the wagon you're advocating for?
Here we see a general agreement with the Flavor Wagon but does very little to actually push it forward. For someone complaining about the lack of gamestate there is no attempts at pushing anyone. For all the "show your work" bits Aubrey is also not showing work.In post 1296, Aubrey wrote:I could buy into being busy in RL for a window in time. I could buy into not being motivated for a window of time. Your window of time though has been a major portion of the game. furthermore, I don't buy that it was a planned decision to actively lurk in order to help you place players through reaction testing. Like the annoying math teachers in my old high school days, you need to show the work, and I'm not seeing it. The only thing I see, is you going after the first person to really call you out on anything for survival. <--- aka this reads more as "Oh shit time to push back on the fly" rather than "I've been collecting data on how people recieve me, and here are my results now that my wagon is generated"
In the rare case of Comm Knight town we're probably looking at Flubber,Flavor, and Aubrey.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
GTKAS -- MathBlade