Mini Normal 2002: The Thaw OVERRRRRRRRR

[CultOfAthena]

Really don't like the timing of Magna's vote on Erika. Hoopla's reaction in 41 also seems like posturing.

Vote: MagnaofIllusion

[CultOfAthena]

Sure I’ll join the wagon. It’s Boon so there is going to be entertainment value there.

VOTE: Flavor

Again I dislike MoI's vote on a "joke" wagon and the timing of it.

Hoopla's reaction in 41 also seems like posturing.

Have you ever played with Hoopla or read any games of hers?

I have not – please, enlighten me.

[CultOfAthena]

VOTE: gamma
These last few posts don't read at all like towngamma.

Explain the meta here? I thought the reaction to Saudade's vote seemed genuine.

[CultOfAthena]

did we seriously just have a page 4 hammer

Flavor is at L-1
I s2g if someone hammers I will turbo policy them d2

This seems relatively subdued as far as reactions to early hammers go?

[CultOfAthena]

CoA and Implo are my locktowns
GreyICE is likely town too
Gamma is likely town too but waffle
Saudade is probs town
Hoopla and Keely give me headaches
Boon can get pl'd honestly its a good pl. Its either scum or does stupid shit like this.
VOTE: MoI

and um I think everyone else is irrelevant.

Can you explain your GreyICE read? I haven't really understood a lot of what he's been saying and I'm not really familiar with him as a player.

You see this is kinda like the reverse trap, you thought you made yourself the "easy" target but in fact
it was ME
who made myself the easy target baiting unsuspecting night killing scumbags like you and others into voting me

The idea of you doing this as a reaction test to get reads on people who vote you rings a little hollow when your only read is still just FL being scum.

[CultOfAthena]

Hoopla and Keely give me headaches

Who is Keely?

Actually lets make my life easier.
If any one of CoA, Implo, and GreyICE has a read on {Hoopla or Cheetory} that can be explained with words please educate me, I will likely sheep right now if it sounds good.
Preferibly all 3 would be nice.

I'm gut scumreading Hoopla but apparently there's meta there that I don't know, waiting to hear from MoI on that. I prefer MoI as a wagon anyways.

[CultOfAthena]

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[CultOfAthena]

Votecount 1.1

Saudade(4)

~ Flavor Leaf(19), MagnaOfIllusion(7), Gamma Emerald(27), Hoopla(15)

Flavor Leaf(3)

~ implosion(18), GreyIce(18), Saudade(22)

MagnaOfIllusion(1)

~ Erika Furudo(24)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ Cheetory6(17)


Not Voting (3): Prism(0), Floosh(0), StefanB(1)

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-18 00:26:59)

MOD REMINDERS

Prism has never posted. Please verify player interest.
Floosh has never posted. Please verify player interest.

[CultOfAthena]

Oops, I forgot to include myself. Let's try that again.

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[CultOfAthena]

Votecount 1.1

Saudade(4)

~ Flavor Leaf(19), MagnaOfIllusion(7), Gamma Emerald(27), Hoopla(15)

Flavor Leaf(3)

~ implosion(18), GreyIce(18), Saudade(22)

MagnaOfIllusion(2)

~ CultOfAthena(9), Erika Furudo(24)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ Cheetory6(17)


Not Voting (3): Prism(0), Floosh(0), StefanB(1)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-18 00:26:59)

MOD REMINDERS

Prism has never posted. Please verify player interest.
Floosh has never posted. Please verify player interest.

[CultOfAthena]

Keely is Cheetory

Current thoughts on Saudade?

[CultOfAthena]

I swear, there must be something about normal games that makes them like this.

[CultOfAthena]

VOTE: Hoopla,

is there any towniepost from her in the whole game?
I also remember where she pulled the "we should no lynch" as scum. (okay marathon)
Funny moment: Erica is laying a trap (her first few posts), Hoopla steps in.

I also don't like MoI at the moment.

Saude is strange, but how much is from meta and the joke (I found it funny), and how much is the read from this game?

Sorry I don't have stronger reads at the moment.

What does the strength of your Hoopla read vs your MoI read look like? Interested to hear why you started the Hoopla wagon as opposed to joining the MoI wagon.

Lols. I was going to so a vote count just now, but thanks for doing my job. I'm good btw in the near future.

Don't consider it me trying to take your job for you or anything, just for whenever I'll need one. Also, you missed my vote in the votecount in 195.

Cult- Hoopla is a very skilled player and all her early game posts are well within her range as both Town or scum. So scum reading that is a big miss in my book.

I have no idea what the relevance of what you're saying here is. What does my early scumlean on Hoopla have to do with her being good at scum? Wouldn't it only make sense to say this to me if I was gut

townreading

Hoopla?

[CultOfAthena]

I get good town feelings from Cheetory in the whole interaction from 198 to 207.

I kinda get townfeels from his posts and I feel like like, if MoI is a wolf then GreyICE is like, definitely town, but yeah I'm liking GreyICE right now.

I still don't really know where you're coming from there if it's a gut read like that. Any chance you could elaborate?


Stopped reading after 220.

[CultOfAthena]

Saudade(4)

~ Flavor Leaf(27), MagnaOfIllusion(11), Gamma Emerald(41), Hoopla(15)

Flavor Leaf(4)

~ implosion(19), GreyIce(20), Saudade(31), Cheetory6(28)

MagnaOfIllusion(2)

~ CultOfAthena(14), Erika Furudo(30)

Hoopla(1)

~ StefanB(5)

Saudade wagon seems kind of transparently scum-driven, at least going off my current reads.

That gives me pause, actually.

[CultOfAthena]

I think Saudade is town :/

(If this is in response to me)

When I say "it gives me pause", I mean more in terms of my scumreads than in terms of my read on Saudade. It seems incredibly unlikely that a team of {GL, MoI, Hoopla} would all vote on the same waogn like that, and even just two of those three being scum seems instinctually unlikely.

[CultOfAthena]

I have not played with Saudade before, kill him.

???

[CultOfAthena]

Won't be available for a bit, will try to catch up when I can.

[CultOfAthena]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This only happens if I’m scum or am getting pushed by stubborn town relentlessly despite the contrary to reasons why I would be mechanically town.

I don’t care if people scum read me, just accept you can be wrong and be willing to at least try to work it out.

It's less about your alignment, and more about avoiding an avalanche of pages pre-flips. I am pretty shamelessly in favour of policy/utility lynching anyone not a town read. Anyway, the wind seems to be blowing in Saudade's direction, so...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Saudade

After sleeping on it, I'm back to preferring Flavor Leaf over Saudade. Too much

"wah wah woe is me"

and

"Ah, but I wouldn't actually play scum that way"

posts, not to mention the weird goading people into attacking him then claiming it was a Trap™. If he's scum, cool, if he's town, no big deal. He'll probably just radiate other flavours of bad plays tomorrow, and then before you know it, he'll be requesting votes and laying traps in LYLO. Alright, maybe that last bit is an exaggeration, but for real, lets just nip it in the bud now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

[CultOfAthena]

I have no idea what the relevance of what you're saying here is. What does my early scumlean on Hoopla have to do with her being good at scum? Wouldn't it only make sense to say this to me if I was gut townreading Hoopla?

It means your read is terrible and you have no clue how to read Hoopla if you think that early game material is scum-lean worthy. My limited experience with you prior to this says you aren’t terrible. So I’m left in a quandary.

In what way? Is this some RaidantCowbells-style "You wouldn't be able to catch me from these posts if I were scum"? Please, explain instead of just calling my read terrible. It doesn't seem unreasonable to me at all to look at what I quoted just above and see scum there.

[CultOfAthena]

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[CultOfAthena]

@StefanB, where are you at in terms of reads? I can't really get a good sense from reading your posts. Also, you never responded to 245.

[CultOfAthena]

Catching up.

[CultOfAthena]

I'm not going to try to make a giant catchup post again – I'll inevitably get sidetracked.

Votecount 1.8

Hoopla(3)

~ Flavor Leaf(110), StefanB(52), Cheetory6(75)

Flavor Leaf(3)

~ Saudade(79), GreyIce(76), Gamma Emerald(83)

StefanB(2)

~ MagnaOfIllusion(36), implosion(55)

implosion(2)

~ Hiraki(28), Prism(19)

Prism(1)

~ Erika Furudo(50)

MagnaOfIllusion(1)

~ CultOfAthena(23)

CultOfAthena(1)

~ Hoopla(35)


Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-18 00:26:59)

[CultOfAthena]

My current reads are that this day needs to end and I'm fine with both of the leading wagons.

Unvote

Vote: Hoopla

[CultOfAthena]

I agree that I'm lurking, yes - I don't believe I've actually seen an explanation as for why it makes me scum, however. At the moment I have real life issues I need to deal with. On that note,

@Mod: I will be VLA until Sunday

noted

[CultOfAthena]

Flavor Leaf's vote is probably the scummiest. We've been scum together before, he knows that my style as scum was more snarky and aggressive and not lurky.

Unvote

Vote: Flavor Leaf

[CultOfAthena]

I have no idea what Gamma is doing with his vote, however.