Mini Normal 2002: The Thaw OVERRRRRRRRR

[MagnaofIllusion]

The thing about that I find most puzzlesome is that you think I’m really pushing to any significant degree. This is me being really laid back.

[StefanB]

I think the second one was an invitation to vote her, so yep I call that a trap, exspecially if the slot is an experienced player.
You don't think she exspected to get votes after that post?
So a trap that catches eager players.

[Gamma Emerald]

MoI I think that's keely's whole point

[Cheetory6]

Okay, it's not really pushes, but moreso the angles?

I mean ... the whole "Oops wrong thread" play is so cheeky scum.

This in particular just felt like the same sort of thing you used to get the ball rolling as scum while trying to justify a vote.

Something about the approach feels off?
[Which I will admit is pretty nebulous, but there's also that I'm not really getting townvibes from other things that you're doing, so that doesn't help either ]

[MagnaofIllusion]

The she’s way off base - this game is way different than Biochem. Of course feel free to judge for yourself it is in the Completed Large area.

[Cheetory6]

I think it's kind of misreppy to imply that I'm saying every aspect of your play here is the same as there. I just think there's elements of your play so far that strike me as pretty similar to there and that gutfeel is the second best thing I have in my hand in terms of reads right now.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Yeah I don’t know what to tell you Cheet ... if you are expecting tons of frothing invectives and yelling for people’s necks you are always going to be disappointed with my play. That chapter of MoI is done.

[Cheetory6]

I mean, if you think I'm urgently requesting that you start acting town posthaste before I murder you to death with a wagon then you're clearly misreading how confident I feel/how interested I am in hardpushing you.

[Erika Furudo]

Prism replaces WhyMafia

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Bet I made it really easy for you guys to make a "case" on me to vote me collectively

This is town.

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CoA and Implo are my locktowns
GreyICE is likely town too
Gamma is likely town too but waffle
Saudade is probs town
Hoopla and Keely give me headaches
Boon can get pl'd honestly its a good pl. Its either scum or does stupid shit like this.
VOTE: MoI

and um I think everyone else is irrelevant.

Can you explain your GreyICE read? I haven't really understood a lot of what he's been saying and I'm not really familiar with him as a player.

You see this is kinda like the reverse trap, you thought you made yourself the "easy" target but in fact
it was ME
who made myself the easy target baiting unsuspecting night killing scumbags like you and others into voting me

The idea of you doing this as a reaction test to get reads on people who vote you rings a little hollow when your only read is still just FL being scum.

I kinda get townfeels from his posts and I feel like like, if MoI is a wolf then GreyICE is like, definitely town, but yeah I'm liking GreyICE right now.

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VOTE: Hoopla,

is there any towniepost from her in the whole game?
I also remember where she pulled the "we should no lynch" as scum. (okay marathon)
Funny moment: Erica is laying a trap (her first few posts), Hoopla steps in.

I also don't like MoI at the moment.

Saude is strange, but how much is from meta and the joke (I found it funny), and how much is the read from this game?

Sorry I don't have stronger reads at the moment.

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Actually lets make my life easier.
If any one of CoA, Implo, and GreyICE has a read on {Hoopla or Cheetory} that can be explained with words please educate me, I will likely sheep right now if it sounds good.
Preferibly all 3 would be nice.

I don't know if I will figure out how to read Hoopla. This is pretty much what I expected from her as either alignment, though I haven't played with her in 6.5 years.

Cheetory is p much his town self so far. Though not strongly so. There is some merit to what Grey said.

ty me sheep keely read.

[Saudade]

Gamma the only surface player right now in here is you

[Cheetory6]

owch

[Erika Furudo]

Phone post so now beautiful quoting for you all.

Implosion - don’t be a slug take 10 minutes and read Saud’s ISO from that completed game. Cheeky and also blatantly anti-Town posts are well within the range of his scum game. And posts like 171 are straight out of the “lost and confuse newb” strategy he employed in his scum win. He’s clearly more capable than he presents as that game demonstrated.

I also disagree with 142 - I’ve seen Boon pull these exact moves as Town and he believes in his approach regardless of how many people tell him it is bad.

Grey - please translate 115 here or in the Mason PT cause you lost me.

Cult- Hoopla is a very skilled player and all her early game posts are well within her range as both Town or scum. So scum reading that is a big miss in my book.

Cheetory - I remind you of Biochem not Defcon4?

Stephan - you seriously are suggesting Erika’s early game posting was a Trap?

I read 171 and I can create multiple interpretations. One of them is not Lost and Confused.

[Erika Furudo]

I think the second one was an invitation to vote her, so yep I call that a trap, exspecially if the slot is an experienced player.
You don't think she exspected to get votes after that post?
So a trap that catches eager players.

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Okay, it's not really pushes, but moreso the angles?

I mean ... the whole "Oops wrong thread" play is so cheeky scum.

This in particular just felt like the same sort of thing you used to get the ball rolling as scum while trying to justify a vote.

Something about the approach feels off?
[Which I will admit is pretty nebulous, but there's also that I'm not really getting townvibes from other things that you're doing, so that doesn't help either ]

ok yeah Keely's posts are getting better he can get thrown in the locktown pool now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma the only surface player right now in here is you

You legit cannot say this when you're arguing shit like "all self-voters are scum". Would love to see what you think is surface level of mine though.

[Cheetory6]

Okay, so, let's play a game!

It's called, "someone explain to me what Flavor has done so far that's outside his scumrange"- the game!!!!!!!!!

In particular, I'm curious why people think that scumFlavor wouldn't do gambitty stuff like a self-vote fake L-1 and why people think that scumFlavor wouldn't drop a fakeclaim to deter the wagon on himself. Because I personally think both of those things are more likely to come from scumHim than townHim [or at least the way he used it as an excuse to pivot momentum back onto Saudade reads theatrical in a way that I strongly associate with scumFlavor]

I also think the Saudade "paranoia" from Flavor looks a lot more like an excuse to build up a push than a genuine interest in trying to parse him and I 100% want the specific reasons why Flavor thinks Saudade should know that Flavor would selfvote as either alignment, and until that's been explained I don't know why anyone is taking his word that Saudade should know better.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think Flavor is completely out of his scum range
in fact there's the possibility I might end up suspecting him if something doesn't turn up right
I am in particular agreement with that last paragraph of yours keely, and I'm definitely not happy with myself for just sheeping with 0 fact-checking

[Saudade]

Gamma the only surface player right now in here is you

You legit cannot say this when you're arguing shit like "all self-voters are scum". Would love to see what you think is surface level of mine though.

I'm voting mafia and you're voting town, that's all there is to it really.

[Saudade]

Gamma the only surface player right now in here is you

You legit cannot say this when you're arguing shit like "all self-voters are scum". Would love to see what you think is surface level of mine though.

Also lets get things straight I can say whatever the hell I want

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma the only surface player right now in here is you

You legit cannot say this when you're arguing shit like "all self-voters are scum". Would love to see what you think is surface level of mine though.

I'm voting mafia and you're voting town, that's all there is to it really.

This isn't surface level in the slightest from me, but it's super surface level from you to think that logic holds any water
and sure you can say what you want but you're also fucking wrong

[Cheetory6]

I was wrong gamma is town
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[Saudade]

Gamma the only surface player right now in here is you

You legit cannot say this when you're arguing shit like "all self-voters are scum". Would love to see what you think is surface level of mine though.

I'm voting mafia and you're voting town, that's all there is to it really.

This isn't surface level in the slightest from me, but it's super surface level from you to think that logic holds any water
and sure you can say what you want but you're also fucking wrong

I may be wrong but you're most one hundred percent wrong, therefore I win.

[Saudade]

I think this interaction played itself out to its fullest at the moment let us move on to bigger greater things

[Gamma Emerald]

Wow what a fucking bitch you are, trying to end it before I get my chance to roast you
first off you having to call me "most 100% wrong" is fucking childish. Second you still haven't demonstrated in the slightest how what I'm doing is wrong.
Now I don't care if we end it, you've already made yourself look like a bitch

[Flavor Leaf]

Lol, just lynch me. Idk how to defend myself here. I’ve done too much stupid stuff.

Imma flip VT, not a PR. It’s fine.

[Flavor Leaf]

Plus, it’s kind of humorous to quicklynch me Day 1.