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Hey...You're the first one to have recognised my avatar! Congratz!! ...Sorry but I don't recognise yours :$Hello toshiro, what do you think about the game so far.
Ok, well i've read the game (all 9 pages!) and i've formed some views.
I think Omg is town...Quite strongly too, actually. Didn't like the bandwagon on him at all. GW stood up and defended him when he was being bandwagoned hence I think he is town too.
I think XReyoX is probably town, lots of posting, seems genuine.
I'm liking the GSGold wagon. He has largely lurked (I know he's not the only one guilty) and it felt like he was just bandwagoning on Omg trying to get him lynched cos he'd gathered a few votes.
Blazerunner I think is playing consistent with new-player town views.
Friend of Old I'm not sure about. Liked some of his play like trying to get lurkers to come out and talk, though.
Oman i'm not sure about...He seems to be pretty genuine, and seems to believe strongly that Omg is scum...A direct clash of what i've picked up.
dahen - I liked his post 18. I think he is probably town.
Norinel - Another one i'm finding hard to pick up on.
Lalaland - Lurking, bandwagoning, random lynch supporting...Town!! Seriously...I've seen a game she's in on CC. More often than not it's random lynches day 1 there, and i've seen her play like this and come up town. Not that I approve of that at all, lol. Particularly dislike lurking...
Elias - I think is scum. Seems like he's making poor excuses for votes (lalaland) and as i've already said don't like the Omg case. Getting that general scum feel...
Ofcourse, this leaves only 2 people on my current list, and there are 3, so I need to find a 3rd scum somewhere.
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That is what i've picked up.Elias_the_thief wrote:
So youre telling me that pressure wagoning is a bad reason to vote someone? Even when I've jumped off every wagon including that one when it got close to a lynch?Xtoxm wrote: Elias - I think is scum. Seems like he's making poor excuses for votes (lalaland) and as i've already said don't like the Omg case. Getting that general scum feel...Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I know i'm missing one of the scum - Not saying i'm right about them 100% but I like to have the right number of scum in my list. GS has posted sufficiently little that a link between him and Elias could be non-evident.Toshiro: there are only 2 mafia, the other one is a cult leader. I don't see much of a link between elias and GS either.
Up the top - Should have space that out, sorry.Also, where is ghostwriter?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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So in all these 9 pages you haven't picked up a single read on anyone?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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That's out of order. Mental disabilities?! This is a game. Don't start insulting people on a personal level. If you'd said that to me i'd have most probably requested replacement.omg_im_innocent_wtf wrote:no answer?
oman - serious questions. how old are you? do you have any sort of mental disabilities? (this is not meant to offend at all, just so i know what i am dealing with here. simple 16/no would be all i need)Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Don't think it deserves the pressure from GW there but he makes a good point, posts like that are no good.dahen wrote:Prod received! This games moves really fast. Every time I try to catch up there are new pages added. I'll make another attempt tonight or tomorrow.
What are your opinions of everyone?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I think OMG is deft town after that...Ok so perhaps self voting is not a completely pro-town thing to do, that doesn't make him scum.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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There has been much discussion about town power roles...Notice also that the scum have a power role. How about some ideas on that? Is it just a GF, what kind of things might we expect from it?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Think I said yesterday?Battle Mage wrote:
Y?Xtoxm wrote:I think a BM or Oman lynch is the way to go.
Basically I think you are scum.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I am basically continuing on from yesterday. I thought OMG was quite clearly town, and Blazerunner was looking very much like newbie town, which is reasonable for the scum to get rid of early.
Another question to think about - Who is likely to have been a target for the cult's recruit? I think Elias was considered scummy enough for him to be out. I don't think a recruit of a newer player is at all likely. Were I recruiter I know i'd want to go after one of the most experienced players in the game. Our best hope is that the recruiter hit a scum or town power role.
Ofcourse, this question only works perfectly if the cult recruiter is none of us alive. But I think the target would have fallen on one of Oman, BM, XReyoX. Reyo because of the large activity, Oman BM cause they are the pro's around here.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I didn't realise dahen was an experienced player, I was thinking the opposite. That's quite interesting.
Yes, you are right about recruits, now I think about it. And the odds of failure are not bad either.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I didn't realise it was only possible, I checked the first post earlier today and saw the "sample mafia power role" thing and thought that meant there was one.Pink Puppy wrote:
The rules say a mafia power role is POSSIBLE. Not that we definitely have one.Xtoxm wrote:There has been much discussion about town power roles...Notice also that the scum have a power role. How about some ideas on that? Is it just a GF, what kind of things might we expect from it?
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I guess you are right, hadn't thought about that.Norinel wrote:
Do keep in mind that I'm coming off a lengthy hiatus. (This is my first game playing since I think May, though I finished off some stuff I was modding/MishMashing before I declared myself gone)BM wrote:As far as experience goes, Norinel far exceeds either me or Oman. If i recall, so does Dahen.
As far as the mafia power role things goes, don't all the standard ones only mess around with the town power roles anyway? (GF only makes a difference if there's a cop/vig, roleblocker only interferes with power roles, framer makes life harder for the cop) With only a handful of town roles total, and none of them outed yet except the vig, I don't see why speculation does much good. It'd probably just do more to expose the power roles.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I thought it was a good idea.Pink Puppy wrote:Then what was your point in asking? What did you hope to accomplish?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I was going to claim when the day started, then I remember something about mafia have a power role, I checked back the first post and indeed it was there.
I aksed about mafia power roles cause I became worried about the possible prescence of a mafia RB.
But I think the mafia have me figured by now anyways, I stated strong suspicions of Elias I was the only one other than OMG to do so, i'm the vig.
Suspicion is coming my way I figure best to just get the claim out there. Give the mafia a bit of a choice about whether to risk a doctor being in the game to.
Sorry about my seeminly lazy approach, knowing you can clear yourself seems to have that effect. It's a first for me.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Yes.XReyoX wrote:I agree with pinkpuppy that discussing potential Mafia PRs doesn't really benefit the town much. However, I don't see talking about it is much of a scumtell at this point. The best would be to ask people to be more carefull no to drop clues about their roles.
so Xtoxm, you viged elias last night?
And Oman, that's partly why I thought claiming early was a good idea, it means if mafia want to counter me if forces them to out themselves with too many alive for it to be beneficial.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Don't speculate on town's power roles...Think that's a bad idea.Pink Puppy wrote:
Good thinking. Unless we don't have a doc. Is that possible/probable?Oman wrote:Okay, if we look at this at face value (the vig will kill Xtom tonight if he is fakeclaiming) and say that Xtom is a powerrole, he is NOT CULT. This is big, we have one guarenteed non-cultist. Meaning that even though vig is a dicey role in this game (I know I was the vig last game).
I say we are at a very interesting decision here.
let 1 townpowerrole = doc:
Let Xtoxm = Vigilantee -> obviously protecting him from night kills is the best move as we have a confirmed townie with no cult-ableness.
Let Xtoxm = Scum -> obviously the vig will try to kill him, but the doc should protect him (see Xtoxm = vigilantee).
Thus, I think that contrary to standard vig play any vigilantee should counterclaim now, if not, we should accept that Xtoxm IS town.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Ok I am going tovote dahen
I thought he was a new player from the way he played but BM says he's experienced, which makes me suspicious of him.
He has only 9 posts in the whole game. He recently started a promised analysis, did only the first few pages, said he would do more, and has dissappeared since.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Just waiting on GW and dahen if the wish to confess that they are scum.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Feel free to make suggestions, but I will not be basing my kill upon any assigned target by general town consensus.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Are you being silly on purpose?
Lalaland is replaced, OMG, Elias and Blazerunner are dead.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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BM, I don't understand what you mean there, could you try to explain better?
Why to you think Reyo is scum?
I personally find him very town.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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How do you get that line in the page? It looks cool. I must know!!Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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It looks like that is what you are doing to Reyo, and I think his not dismissing of dahen is compeltely warranted.Battle Mage wrote:
Let me tell u a story.Xtoxm wrote:BM, I don't understand what you mean there, could you try to explain better?
Why to you think Reyo is scum?
I personally find him very town.
Player A is protown.
Player A makes an analysis.
Everyone in the town thinks that Player A is probably protown.
Player B is scum.
Player B doesnt especially want to eliminate a potential mislynch, so he argues against the decision of the town.
Its only a scenario, but ive done it on numerous occassions as scum. As such, i consider it a pretty reliable scumtell.
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I'm saying it looks like you are doing what you just accused Reyo of doing, to me.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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My point is/was that are trying to generate suspicion to a player I strongly believe is town, atm.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Cause I think you are scum.
Do you find it scummy that I don't unvote you.
How many players stated they thought dahen was town? 8, 9?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Ok, that's why I said that btw.curiouskarmadog wrote:Deadline: (March 5th 10am EST)Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Anyone other than me Reyo and BM want to express an opinion?
Or vote even?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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0% for me, obv.
For the remaining 8, 2 mafia + 1 CR + 3-5/11 C
So more like 42%.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Ah, didn't count for the fact you were including yourself as innocent.XReyoX wrote:I mean. Viewing from my side or other towns side,
it would be 2mafia +1 CL / 7 ppl = 42%
2 mafia +1CL +1CR/7 ppl = 57%
so i'm just assuming the average of the 2, roughly 50%.
not relevant. But it tells me the reason for the inactivity. The scums are probably doing this deliberately. =_=
I cant really think of more questions to ask anymore. People are away, oman's not posting, norinel said he was going to check in 5 days ago but didn't, dahen said "see you soon" but didn't say how soon, GW still hasn't responded.... thats like half of the players.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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There was no way I was gonna lynch OMG he had me comletely convinced and I voiced strong objections to his lynch.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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He was making false statements about me. I don't like that.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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PP - Just to confirm for you, my vigging had nothing to do with you
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Mm.Pink Puppy wrote:
This is getting really annoying.dahen wrote:I'm here again and will continue my catch up today. From what I scanned through on the last page it seems like interesting things are starting to happen.
He's just ignoring us...And going about this in his own way...Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Oman, you were just convincing me you were town.
Then you go on a 10 day lurk binge.
Save a "I got prodded" post.
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O RLY?XReyoX wrote:Oman has been posting across the site every single day =_=
...I am not impressed.
unvote vote Oman.
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Let's lynch him while he's away.Battle Mage wrote:I'm majorly busy atm, and unable to do anything useful here for now. Dont do anything crazy in my absence please, and ill give this game the attention it deserves, soon.
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Then vote for him.Pink Puppy wrote:I'm starting to think Oman is the play.
L-4 isn't exactly dangerous.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Yes.Battle Mage wrote:lynching Oman is stupid. need i say more?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Oh? You don't think Oman is scum?Pink Puppy wrote:
I'm just thinking of mafia and cult members out there piling on.Xtoxm wrote:
Then vote for him.Pink Puppy wrote:I'm starting to think Oman is the play.
L-4 isn't exactly dangerous.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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We have to start somewhere. Obviously, all the scum in the game will instantly bandwagonly the first townie to get voted by a couple other townies.Pink Puppy wrote:o thats true. but what if i'm wrong?
Frankly that comment makes me quite suspicious of you.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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It's enough for me.
I was suspicious of the way he acted day 1 also, but imo he improved with his early day 2 play...It's the way he's gone from that to uber-lurking that I don't like.
"I forgot about this game" is a pathetic reason, too. I want to see him pressured.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Hmm, maybe. I take your point.Pink Puppy wrote:Wait a second, if I was mafia/cult, I would not be worried about oman being quicklynched. I would welcome it. So don't be that suspicious.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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He's already ignored a prod.Pink Puppy wrote:Mod can we have some Oman prod action?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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We're now 10 days from deadline, doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
How about everyone place their vote, so we can see how opinions lie. (Within reason).Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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