Mini 559 - Cult Mafia again - Game over

[XReyoX]

Aren't we accepting xtoxm is the vig... and thus NOT scum?

I believe xtoxm is the vig and I believe BM's scumdar is broken.

[Battle Mage]

Aren't we accepting xtoxm is the vig... and thus NOT scum?

I believe xtoxm is the vig and I believe BM's scumdar is broken.

this brings back painful memories. lol

[XReyoX]

BM:
So you are you not accepting xtoxm is the vig?

[Battle Mage]

dont be silly. Of course he's the vig. And i'm the vigmeat. :p

[XReyoX]

i'm the vigmeat. :p

Yummy

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GW:
one more thing.
What made you shift from these:

You have made a total of 9 posts since this game as started. Not a single one has held heavy/deep, unique thought traits, fresh ideas, or anything of that sort. combined, their total is less than 25 lines of posting.

Unvote; Vote dahen

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That wasn't pressure. That was an actual vote. He doing just enough to not be replaced in this game, and nothing more.

To this?

His general inattentiveness makes me believe that he's town.

[Xtoxm]

Anyone other than me Reyo and BM want to express an opinion?

Or vote even?

[XReyoX]

Everyone else has a 50% chance of being scum, I noticed.

[Xtoxm]

Less than that, 6-8/11 chance Cult Recruiter failed.

[XReyoX]

xtoxm, <50% for you.

Not for me, I think you're the vig.

[Xtoxm]

0% for me, obv.

For the remaining 8, 2 mafia + 1 CR + 3-5/11 C

So more like 42%.

[Xtoxm]

Not that any of that is particularly relevent.

[XReyoX]

I mean. Viewing from my side or other towns side,
it would be 2mafia +1 CL / 7 ppl = 42%
2 mafia +1CL +1CR/7 ppl = 57%
so i'm just assuming the average of the 2, roughly 50%.
not relevant. But it tells me the reason for the inactivity. The scums are probably doing this deliberately. =_=
I cant really think of more questions to ask anymore. People are away, oman's not posting, norinel said he was going to check in 5 days ago but didn't, dahen said "see you soon" but didn't say how soon, GW still hasn't responded.... thats like half of the players.

[Pink Puppy]

Well, I'm still here!

The thing that sticks in my head about Norinel is how he said

I suppose he is right that his lynch will give us a place to start tomorrow, but let's not forget that even if he does come up townie, each of the rest of us has just as much of a functioning confirmed pro-town brain as he does.

unvote: GW, vote: OMG makes a hammer.

I did think the last two votes in half an hour was pretty suspicious. But aside from that and the fact that Norinel was hammering, I just don't like how he says "Let's remember that anyone who lynched OMG is probably town because he's acting like this." The fact that he wants to get that in before his vote, it's like he already knows OMG is town... and don't hold him (or other scum) responsible.

And nowhere have I seen Norinel scumhunting hardcore today because "the OMG lynch gave so much info." How much info can it really give if it was townish to vote him?

Anybody else agree?

I also think FOO is maybe scum, but too tired to look back at his posts to say why exactly.

[Battle Mage]

Well, I'm still here!

The thing that sticks in my head about Norinel is how he said

I suppose he is right that his lynch will give us a place to start tomorrow, but let's not forget that even if he does come up townie, each of the rest of us has just as much of a functioning confirmed pro-town brain as he does.

unvote: GW, vote: OMG makes a hammer.

I did think the last two votes in half an hour was pretty suspicious. But aside from that and the fact that Norinel was hammering, I just don't like how he says "Let's remember that anyone who lynched OMG is probably town because he's acting like this." The fact that he wants to get that in before his vote, it's like he already knows OMG is town... and don't hold him (or other scum) responsible.

And nowhere have I seen Norinel scumhunting hardcore today because "the OMG lynch gave so much info." How much info can it really give if it was townish to vote him?

Anybody else agree?

I also think FOO is maybe scum, but too tired to look back at his posts to say why exactly.

:GREAT posting:

FoS: Norinel

[XReyoX]

Pink puppy:

Thanks for bringing this out. I thought of it yesterday (as in Day1) but somehow has forgotten about it.

I'm not sure about FoO. His posts.... I'd say they're well "crafted".... Its a feeling and i don't have anything that is a good indication of he is scum. Its like when you say "hm.... really?", re-read the post then say"hm... he's probably right"...something like that.
So no, I don't think he is scum at the moment, however i think he should post a more detailed case against oman.

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Norinel:
So what information do you think OMG has given us?

[Xtoxm]

I mean. Viewing from my side or other towns side,
it would be 2mafia +1 CL / 7 ppl = 42%
2 mafia +1CL +1CR/7 ppl = 57%
so i'm just assuming the average of the 2, roughly 50%.
not relevant. But it tells me the reason for the inactivity. The scums are probably doing this deliberately. =_=
I cant really think of more questions to ask anymore. People are away, oman's not posting, norinel said he was going to check in 5 days ago but didn't, dahen said "see you soon" but didn't say how soon, GW still hasn't responded.... thats like half of the players.

Ah, didn't count for the fact you were including yourself as innocent.

[XReyoX]

Mod:

Could you do a mass prod please?
There are quite a few questions out there that need to be answered.

[curiouskarmadog]

who needs to be prodded? please bold their names.

[XReyoX]

GhostWriter, oman

, norinel(away),

dahen

[Pink Puppy]

About FOO, I just remember how he had to be pushed to participate early on yesterday, and was like "Hmm I just don't know... we have nothing to go on."

I don't know why, but I always think people who say "Man, I just don't know what's going on!" are scummy. Sort of like scum scared to stick their neck out too far. But I guess it could just be a newbie thing. I mean, in all honesty, I normally do feel lost but I try not to say it because that's unhelpful.

[XReyoX]

Pink puppy:

I don't feel it that way, I think FoO knows what's going on. His posts are more like a recap of what the town is doing, rather than trying to find scum.

FOO reads the thread, put a case together, place his vote, then thats it. He only comes in onces in a while to stay in the game or when someone questioned him. It seems like he lacks the will to interrogate his suspects and that is strange because it means he didn't care whether his suspects are really scum. His OMGUS vote on OMG yesterday adds to that.

[Friend of Old]

My vote was OMGUS? I didn't really think of it that way, I just wanted OMG out really, his attitude was annoying and he had to use several posts instead of poting just one long one. I believe my vote on him was orignally placed after a vote on Oman, was it? I seem to remember that I voted for him for simply voting with no reasons rather than OMGUS, but maybe my memory is faulty.

I guess you guys are right in saying that I've been more of an observer this game. I suppose if you'd like I'll try to be more useful but I feel there is little merit in my posting at the moment, since Xtoxm's Vig claim we seem to have been floundering about doing very little and I find myself with nothing to contribute, again. If you want to know more about why I raised that point on Oman, well, it was just something I picked up yesterday and I wanted to know why he played like that, however he has played rather differently today, there has been a change in attitude I think. I wondered if the catalyst was OMG's lynch and if there was some history behind all of this.

I know that this still is not helpful thus far, so I'm going to go out on a limb here and post a scumdar, maybe a good set of LoS's would be helpful.

Scum

dahen - Pretty much useless, hasn't done much excpet post out of date summaries.
GhostWriter - Has posted little value, seemed to buddy up to OMG at points throughout yesterday. Accused everyone of bad voting as the bandwagoning reasons were weak.
Norinel - Has also posted little of merit, hammered without waiting for town discussion.
Oman - Leaning scum due to inactivity and some fairly useless play mid-day 1 from which my view was tinted slightly scummy.

Town

XReyoX - Consistently active, leaning town, no major scumtells
Battle Mage - Even if his scumdar was a bit skwiffy he has generally scumhinted well and provoked discussion, always good for the town.
Pink Puppy - I think that, especially after you had just replaced in you were a good catalyst for discussion, and I haven't really seen any especially scummy behaviour. Well, none that I can recall right now anyway.
Xtoxm - Undisputed Vig claim.

As for this, general feeling, that some of you are having about my being scum, would you care to elaborate? Nobody has yet faulted what I've said yet you guys simply seem to get the impression that my posts are too, well I guess artificial is the word. Well, I really don't know how I'm supposed to defend myself against that, so I'll just leave that one there.

[XReyoX]

I just wanted OMG out really, his attitude was annoying and he had to use several posts instead of poting just one long one.

Annoying attitude =/= scum
Using several posts instead of one long one =/=scum
Thus your vote is based on OMGUS.

[Battle Mage]

I just wanted OMG out really, his attitude was annoying and he had to use several posts instead of poting just one long one.

Annoying attitude =/= scum
Using several posts instead of one long one =/=scum
Thus your vote is based on OMGUS.

actually i have to concede, your post does not make for a good case validation.
And has anyone else noticed that all Friend of Olds suspects are pretty much based on lurking?

BM

[Pink Puppy]

And has anyone else noticed that all Friend of Olds suspects are pretty much based on lurking?

BM

Also notice his top suspect is dahen.