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Not sure yet... Why would you think so?In post 40, Dannflor wrote:Also, rosterfoster is town.-
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The answer is in your signature: family time on week-ends. Also the quasi-omnipresent debate of whether or not RVS are relevant was not quite over yet.In post 128, BuJaber wrote:What's sasha's excuse?-
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What do you think is being the cause of your wagon?In post 135, xwing wrote:no questions were thrown my way though..-
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Didn't want to be L-2, now I don't care.
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L-1 in the above, sorry
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The fact that pushing you to L-1 would make you vulnerable to lolhammers and quickhammers. We've only started, I didn't my position was strong enough on you to push this hard, contextually.
Now that your wagon has thinned, I can vote a bit more at peace. I'll reread you in our previous game to see how you compare when I have time though.-
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That didn't happen, that is what I didn't want to happen.In post 211, xwing wrote:i find this a bit contradictory..when you initially voted for me, you said you didnt care (your vote placed me to L-1)..but this statement means you do care..
I see you more towny now, your previous game gives me quite the same vibe for now.
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I don't quite follow your thoughts here. I have an idea, but I'd like you to speak first so I don't put words in your mouth.
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I (didn't) care ... about the L-1 since that was not the case anymore. My vote had less impact (4th I think) instead of sixth. But I was still suspicious of you.In post 220, xwing wrote:what did you mean by "not caring" then?-
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From 156 I thought you were not a meta guy. Your answer surprises me. This is not what I expected.In post 216, Slaxx wrote:Really don’t like the “for now” out
And I also feel like out of all the people to reference Schadds game you fleshed it out the least. Could be because you were last to back off, but then that leads to asking why you were a holdout.
I'd like to answer about the "holdout" but I don't understand the meaning. English is not my first language, sorry-
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Opinions can change, I didn't want people to think I was town!xwing all the way. Different ways of thinking I guess.In post 216, Slaxx wrote:Really don’t like the “for now” out-
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JC: Roleplay made me think that she had nothing to lose so that she leaned town. Not always a tell, but I could fall for it. But it was an early game call, now I've found people more townier.
Egix: While in our previous game he was mostly absent, in this game he is quite on the offensive. First on gamma then on xwing. I have a thought that he might want to make a lot of distance between Gamma and him. His play towards xwing is not quite the same I think. A complicated slot to read right now, I'm not so sure he's town anymore. Could be, but then easily could not too.
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Forgot to answer this one.In post 226, Slaxx wrote:“Last holdout” means the last person arguing for a certain topic or last person to stop defending a certain stance.
I think it's a question of timing, which led to rereading xwing. which led to a bit of sheeping
But his posts really got better in the meantime so I'm ok having my vote off him.-
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1- Both would be scumIn post 230, xwing wrote:got a couple of questions on your egix read..
1) why would you expect egix to distance himself from gamma?
2) what do you mean by his play towards me being different? do you mean compared to his approach with gamma?
2- The angle he used wasn't the same for both people, imo.-
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Tight game, eh?In post 237, Slaxx wrote:I am having a boatload of trouble getting a damn scumread-
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Gamma was approached on the participation side and Xwing on the meta side.In post 263, xwing wrote:@sash, what do you mean by number 2? how was it different?
Might not be a huge tell, but sometimes when scum knows more than it should, it does those little odd things that pile up for me near endgame.-
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I could have voted Bubujaber but I don't have him as a strong scumlean. I vote easier when I'm more convinced. Same for Junko.In post 310, Dannflor wrote:I can't help but notice you're not voting anyone? Why wouldn't you vote one of your "notable suspects" to apply pressure?
What are your thoughts on the Gamma wagon?
The Gamma wagon is unreadable to me, too many people jumping in and out for whatever reasons. I never understood why it began in the first place. I'm keeping clear of this one.-
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I think the bolded parts from your own sentence describe best how I play.In post 312, Dannflor wrote:"I vote easier when I'm more convinced" reads like you just don't want to look suspicious for voting for poor reasons, or you can't find good ones (which again you should be actively looking for those, which you are not).It's early D1, no one's reasons are particularly good. Regardless, your vote is your weapon, use it to find a better place to put it if you must.
No good reasons = usually no vote from me. I don't like pressure just for having pressure somewhere. Making talk is good, too much pressure lead to myslynches imho.-
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In this situation, having someone at L-1 on the second day of the game was weird to me. It's not the look of it, I just thought it would be better if the day was longer.In post 313, Dannflor wrote:
Like, you're justIn post 209, Sashaddin wrote:The fact that pushing you to L-1 would make you vulnerable to lolhammers and quickhammers. We've only started, I didn't my position was strong enough on you to push this hard, contextually.
Now that your wagon has thinned, I can vote a bit more at peace. I'll reread you in our previous game to see how you compare when I have time though.soconscious of how your vote is going to look as opposed to what it actually does and that doesn't feel particularly town. Do you tend to do this in all of your games?
From the games I played in, the L-1 spot is often the most suspicious one. I am giving this point to you, this is not a spot I like to vote in, regardless of my alignment.
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Dannflor, roster undecided. I can see both sides ...In post 312, Dannflor wrote:Myself, roster, Tchill, and Gamma are all missing from your reads lists. Are we all null reads to you?
Tchill and Gamma are null. Gamma is hard to understand this game I think, as her wagon demonstrates.-
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Ok, I lost my train of thought a couple of times when I got to that point, what do you understand from it?In post 312, Dannflor wrote:If the Gamma wagon is so mystifying to you why don't you question it?-
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I reallly liked the posts 239 to 242. really objective and to the point. I also have a hard time imagining 280 coming from scum, especially points 3 and 4.In post 322, Egix96 wrote:Why is Haschel a strong townread for you?-
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1) I usually get people to ask about my reads when I do that, which is more pleasant to me than having to write a wall for every opinion I might have. A bit of laziness and lack of time I guess.In post 328, Dannflor wrote:Except my point is you're not making talk, you posted a generic reads list and aren't really attempting to sort people better or clear up confusing aspects of the game to you. If you aren't using your vote, and you aren't doing that, you're effectively doing nothing.
2) As you might have seen in my meta, I often don't have a vote Day 1. I promise I'll vote within the day, right now I'm taking a break from trying to power on a new compy I just assembled. Bitch won't even POST...-
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In post 328, Dannflor wrote:You town read Haschel for these points and yet you don't townread me for making the exact same points earlier in the game. Why?In post 80, Dannflor wrote:Does town always follow the game 100%?-
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Also, your hammer comes on a player you never ever mentioned once during this game yet. Sheeping for a hammer?In post 339, JunkoChan wrote:Why are you comming with this wagon right when Tchill is about to die makes me go mmhmmm
also, I'm okay with this VOTE: Tchill-
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Ah Roosterswitched votes in-between, that's what got me fooled.In post 345, Sashaddin wrote:4 votes in post 325
Danflor 328 (5)
Roster 334 (6)
(Danflor calls L-1)
Junko 339 (7-hammer), think it's hammer then L-1
Slaxx unvotes 342
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I agree I hate Day 1 as well, I never offer good performances so early. No flips yet makes it all speculation.In post 349, JunkoChan wrote:Also I'm bored and want to end this boring day cuz being town is boring
did I say I was bored yet?
for me it is only entertaining once we reach later days
But, still, I found your move extremely scummy given the context. 348 is not helping your case at all. Let's put my money somewhere...
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Look at what happened: Junko wanted to quickhammer Tchill. Is 209 still that bad now?In post 334, rosterfoster wrote:209 is pretty bad.-
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You can run, but you can't hide.In post 339, JunkoChan wrote:inb4 Junko scum for hammering
The more I think about it... you have had weirdest reaction lately and I don't see it it as good. Especially 249, 260 and the hammer.
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That's coolIn post 381, BuJaber wrote:Sorry I meant sashaddin not slaxx in the above ^
I'm thinking about this wagon and I see no reason for me to get on it. Maybe I'm re-living my previous game, where I couldn't read an (obvious?) scum Day 1.
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I called it!In post 382, Sashaddin wrote:I'm thinking about this wagon and I see no reason for me to get on it. Maybe I'm re-living my previous game, where I couldn't read an (obvious?) scum Day 1-
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I like Egix and Percivul as town. Both make good arguments and reasoning, especially Egix in this game. Haschel had a good rep Day 1 and Flubber has solid points too.In post 410, xwing wrote:@sasha: what are your reads now?
Townleans are Roster(393 is reading good to me) and Xwing.
I think the scum must be in the remaining: {Junko, Danflor, Gamma, Bujaber}-
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Percy, I get. Why Dannflor?In post 413, xwing wrote:im only second guessing myself coz percy and dann (strongest townreads after slaxx) are not with me..-
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So you want me to stop playing?In post 418, JunkoChan wrote:@salsadin shut up please-
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It was because of JunkoChan's move to try to hammer to have no discussions or claims. I found it scummy to try this and she gave a poor excuse to do it.In post 423, Dannflor wrote:Sashaddin MAYBE could've been doing it because of his awkward switch away end of day,-
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No, I don't claim to be a wannabe-bully who tries to make people not enjoy this game.In post 454, JunkoChan wrote:What parts?You think you are Junko the towniest placerand can throw reads without backstory?-
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Your quickhammer was self-explanatory. Those last 3 pages are not, can you summarize them to me please?In post 411, JunkoChan wrote: @xwing Do I have to?.. I believe last 3 pages of fay 1 are very selfexplanatory-
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Am I the best at this game? NoIn post 461, JunkoChan wrote:Tbh you are either really bad or scum, scumreading you is a compliment
Do I like to play? Yes
Do I want to learn? Yes
What does it do if I am the worst on the lineup? It always takes one, doesn't it?
Do I like your attitude towards me? Not at all. You are being rude and insulting for absolutely nothing.-
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What does this mean?In post 475, xwing wrote:spearheads are good.-
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I had a weird feeling from the start of the game, but his iso looks better to me we advance. Maybe I ran over his a little fast last time. Yeah, he looks good.In post 484, xwing wrote:pedit: @sash: tell me how dann's not obvtown from the above posts..
As for the hammer, eh, don't wait for me, go ahead if you want to. I'm waiting for Bujaber to come speak a little.-
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If you think we're scum vs scum, I'll tell you I almost asked to be replaced since 418. I really find her offensive. If I'd been scum I'd probably have played along instead of underlining the situation.In post 489, rosterfoster wrote:Primarily Sash (and I mean hopefully that's the scum team), and Junko rang a few bells-
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I don't know how often, but this time she really got me surprised with the way she had done it.In post 459, Persivul wrote:How often have you seen scum actually quickhammer? Seems like mostly a myth in my experience.
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Junko since Day 1, Bujaber. Flubber a bit less than those two.In post 492, xwing wrote:@sasha: fwiw i dont think you and JC are scum..who's in your scum radar right now?
I townread/townlean pretty much everyone else for now.-
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Nah, I decided I wouldn't be bothered by a 17 year old japanese girl anymore.In post 493, JunkoChan wrote:Sorry for hurting your e-feelings, maybe your replacement will be more interesting-
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How many scums do you think on your wagon right now?In post 501, BuJaber wrote:and I think 1 scum would definitely be on the wagon so I was looking there first.-
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A hammer gives a different kind of pressure to the wagon than an earlier vote. So far, I didn't see the event I was waiting for and you have done a good job of redirecting the attention away from you (on me!) so you're kinda off the hook for me right now.In post 501, BuJaber wrote:This is far too early to even consider ending the day let alone posting intent.-
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You're right I guess. I could see her as town if I really understood how she thinks. But the hammer attempt on day1 is still suspiciously scummy to me.In post 497, Dannflor wrote:Meh. Sashaddin vs. Junko is feeling more town vs. town.
(also you guys scum read each other, it's fine, no need for attacks)-
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I know quickhammers have been done to deny town the opportunity to debate strategy by forcing the day to end abruptly. Not often but I've seen it.In post 508, Dannflor wrote:
Think it through. Why would scum want to do something that draws so much attention? What's Junko's motivation to quick hammer her own buddy before there's even a claim and a chance for him to survive? 9/10 that move comes from frustrated or YOLO!town than scum from my experience.In post 507, Sashaddin wrote:But the hammer attempt on day1 is still suspiciously scummy to me.
Regarding the attention, I survived my last scum game by doing the opposite of what a prudent player would have done so here I was open to anything.-
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There is a bit of translation issue too. I really meant "the last game I was scum in". Dannflor has it right.In post 521, Dannflor wrote:
Meh, that's a real stretch. My last x game just means my most recent game is that alignment. I don't know how else he'd refer to his latest scum game regardless of his alignment this game.In post 517, Egix96 wrote:but I will say that the phrasing "my last scum game" seems just a teeny bit slippy.-
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