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I have a pregame guilty on an unspecified player
I am going to allow the game to play out as normal for a few days to get some associatives from them then we'll Lynch them
I thank you all for your cooperation2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Who are your buddiesIn post 9, Emperor flippyNips wrote:In post 4, RadiantCowbells wrote:I have a pregame guilty on an unspecified player
I am going to allow the game to play out as normal for a few days to get some associatives from them then we'll Lynch them
I thank you all for your cooperation
I don’t know how I feel about this2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Then why not vote lich jw
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Btw Mary
If you play with me engage with me talk to me I won't lynch you early no matter what. I can't promise I won't lunch you eventually but.
If you don't engage with me I'm prolly just gonna assume it's because you're wolf and I won't feel bad if it's wrong.
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No speedlynchIn post 169, Vedith wrote:
\o/In post 167, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Lets speed lynch this!
I'm 99% here to hit on Mary and she hasn't been here yet so2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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NoIn post 213, Dannflor wrote:I don't see #18 as that awkward
You prompted me to look at the timing of the post though, and Lich hops from the DDL wagon from an equal sized wagon on Emperor. I don't see the scum motivation behind doing that and possibly drawing attention to himself, unless DDL/Lich are buddies but I'm not sure that makes sense. Maybe it is just awkward town.
You've convinced me vedith
UNVOTE: Lich
VOTE: Hopkirk
I don't see how Hopkirk expects his vote to help him get a better read on Gamma when he asked Gamma no questions about his actions2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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He's not he's just scumIn post 240, Lovebird wrote:
Idk, he could be lynchbait. No need to rushIn post 236, RadiantCowbells wrote:Stop inviting TL jfc2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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how do you want this game to go?In post 247, Yumeko Jabami wrote:Dann certainly is interesting, I'm all fired up over here. Can you tell? In any case, there's this one other player, they're just so very boring. Honestly, it's a drag. Good chance they're scum too. Hey, we should team up, let's get all the boring out of here. What do you say?
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In post 16, TemporalLich wrote:Gonna have to agree with Dannflor here.In post 38, TemporalLich wrote:I definitely feel DrDolittle is trying to hide something. At least the random voters are honest and true.In post 76, TemporalLich wrote:
Since he said random, then that he wanted to vote someone who hadn't been voted yet, then random again... his vote is baseless and Lovebird is town. That's a complete 360 right there.In post 70, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I'll concede it was basically page 1 (post 26, and the mod took the pagetop) but first you said you wanted to vote someone who hadn't been voted yet, then you said random, so which is it?
Let's get this wagon rolling folks
You know what this means...
VOTE: Emperor flippyNips
I'm not sure about that...In post 71, RadiantCowbells wrote:Flippynips wagon is bad
I'm going to define a new term here because I don't think it's something that's in the popular lexicon and I think it's really important to reading newbies in particular.In post 83, TemporalLich wrote:
If Lovebird turns out to be scumbird then I will be very surprised.In post 79, Dannflor wrote:How the hell do you get Lovebird is town from that
Especially now since there are scumreads floating around and the vote isn't even pretending to be a scumread.
There's a lie detecting tell with people in real life where when they're lying they give extraneous details, overexplain things, etc.
The mafia equivalent which we see in these posts is all this excessive fluff added on to these votes.
I'm gonna call it "scum overwording" and it's one of the most tried and true scumtells when it comes to reading newbies.
Notably I have played with more newbies than anyone else in this game and probably in site history, so that should come up with a lot of force behind it.
Another major thing is the lack of newbie unconfidence with the reads. There's no explanations behind things. He just kinda comes up with reads. SSBM town, no explanation. Lovebird town was complete what the fuck and though that kind of overreading into associatives is reasonably common from newbies the original read that lovebird came from was totally out of nowhere.
this too is inconsistent in and of itself: 'definitely town' but the scumreads aren't implausible. wolfy out the ass.In post 122, TemporalLich wrote:
Definitely just lazy town, though I don't see scumreads as implausible.In post 120, Dannflor wrote:What do you two think about Lovebird's entrance and subsequent wagon hop? Scummy or just lazy town?
this is just a pretty typical scum readslist soooIn post 161, TemporalLich wrote:Emperor, Dannflor, DrDolittle, and Gamma all register as "potentially scum" to me.
yeah
no they're just scum. we can lynch them at any point. i wouldn't mind stalling out the day phase but they're gonna be in antispew indefinitely and if it means that we're even slightly likely to end up not lynching temporallich it's better to just take the scum flip and move on to tomorrow.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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@Vedith i do not read you as scum but if you're going to hard defend a wolf i will probably want you lynched sometime before endgame. nothing personnel, kid, but this is ick.
@Yumeko I do read you as scum. I think that your tone is awful and I see your vote as very likely to have been an outright chainsaw. if that is not the case i strongly advise that you reconsider your current line of play because right now i'm planning to go after you tomorrow. on top of all this if the calling me boring and appealing to mary specifically to vote me wasn't explicitly intended to piss me off then you should be aware that that's going to piss me off2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Since some people are trying to fight the obvscum lynch I guess I'll engage with this
How is assuming that you're going to be the lynch when you're already the largest wagon scummy for me? What's my scum motivation going after you? How does something not being Towny necessarily make me auto scumlock?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Like why does scum me randomly tell you that I'm nightkilling you? How is that possibly a town thought process, RC is scum because when he apologized for having me speedlynched he actually meant that he was going to nightkill me? Thinking that means having a very low opinion of newbies
Also anyone who says that any of my case was on him making 'fluff' misunderstood what I was saying. This is a wolf, it dies. So do vedith and yumeko at this point.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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My case on vedith is you can't let people get away with using completely uncalled for salt and personality grievances to jot vote wolvesIn post 340, xwing wrote:
what's your case on vedith?In post 338, RadiantCowbells wrote:He's just a wolf saying what sounds good
Yumeko and Vedith have to die regardless of their alignments hopefully one of them is a wolf but if not it's still wrong to not kill both of them
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what if rcs are just rightIn post 355, Vedith wrote:
RC being wrong doesn't mean Scum at all.In post 352, TemporalLich wrote:Let's be real here, RC is scum either way. RC doesn't even seem to appear to have any buddies so SK is somewhat more likely than Mafia.
RC being wrong just means RC being wrong and having too much of an ego to understand.
I doubt Scum. I wouldn't even consider SK until evidence.
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all of this fails to recognize that i have a better idea of what newbie town and scum do or do not play like and have a fairly strong track record in not mislynching weaker or unorthodox players
i think yumeko could easily be a buddy trying to keep them afloat. I think that there could be scum on the wagon. who knows. i do know that they're a wolf and i want to lynch the wolf.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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seems our reads are entirely backwardsIn post 410, xwing wrote:
kindly explain why RC?In post 407, RadiantCowbells wrote:my top 2 townreads are lovebird and xwing
i agree with dann on lovebird (intentionally irking vedith with my focus)
seriously though, i do agree with dann that if i were to pick scum on TL wagon, i will focus on sorting lovebird, hence why i digged up her previous posts and asked 379..she's also got a pending question from me regarding her "informed" status..2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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that said
i think the play tomorrow is to lynch like Yumeko
maybe another anti-wagon like Vedith
if it's double town start seriously considering bussers but probably not in the lovebird slot specifically
if you get even one scum you're probably gonna win by lynching everyone not on the wagon.
you feel ridiculously solvey so obvtown imowow really? im surprised..why do you think so?
lovebird i have a strong ability to toneread as mary will attest and is already pretty damn likely to be town
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you aren't obligated to respect or like me but if you're going to towncase someone off of 'hey this other person is stupid arrogant and conceited and their scumread makes them town' then we have a problem
i don't give a fuck what you're like vedith. i don't let people get away with hard defending scum for shit reasons. it raises my overall winrate even if it leads to lynching town on occasion. i warned you that this line of play wasn't going to go anywhere good and you chose to pretend like I made you or that I was intentionally goading you or some shit when i just want to lynch scumOtherwise explain these.
You know exactly what I'm like so either I'm right and you're just trying to bait me into taking flakk or...?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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