Mini Normal 2160 | FIA Group B | Endgame

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you go, norwegianboyee. keep them scums spookied!

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you exposed your heart for too long. my impulse to crush it won out. i'm sorry.

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paraprasing: a wise person i know once said that if sausage is putting his energy into solving the game he's usually town; if he's putting his energy into making people look bad and being harder/more perplexing to read he's usually scum.

his level of involvement here is weakly town indicative but the fact he seems to be solving the game at surface level of a bit of a stronger towntell.

idk probably the secret to reading sausage is to think exactly enough to ~understand~ what he's doing for kicks in the game and not thinking about it any deeper than that

also i'm like somewhere close to rand on reading sausage because i tend to bite too hard on stupid tells/hot meta on him

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SIRIUS ARE YOU THERE

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PLEASE JUST
GIVE ME A READ OR
SOMETHING
I BEG YOU

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I feel like you need to spam your heart out for your alignment to shine through

i like, generally can't be bothered these days.
got two just-finished scumgames if you want links?

One-liners like this don't ~feel~ like town!BuDucky to me.

i'm sorry that ss is town : (

I just don't think it's very reasonable.

i also find that version of reality fairly Improbable

I'm just wondering whether it means something that they used "V/V" instead of "TvT".. Might seem reachy, but I feel like they came up with that conclusion on their own, instead of copying Norwee, if that makes any sense to anyone..

it's common MU/MU-adjacent community lingo hey

I think your vote on Nep at this point of my readthrough is not poorly placed. I just think you could be a bit more energetic and I'd feel better about you.
(Some kind of ObiWan-Luke or BoonBabe-Powercore would be much appreciated.. )

i think i've broken through and no longer feel like if i'm not correctly townread the game suckx. i'm pretty comfortable just following my gut and doing what i do and having a good time and slayin' some scums along the way~! i appreciate that probably makes me harder to read. but atp i'd be compromising my enjoyment to be easier to read which just sounds like a bad time.

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i don't even WANT to be easy to read!! phear me, scum god ducky!!!! rawr

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honestly i don't think una needs to squeeze all that hard to pop these out as scum but i still believe the little gems of cognisance in them enough that i want to call him town

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my soul wants to vote sirius but my brain tells my soul that's a policy elim and that i should stick to my guns

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God reading una is going to be like trying to read Aristophanes isnt it

i'd say una is slightly less friendly, and slightly harder to read

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During this catchup, it has felt more like people are questioning other peoples pushes more than pushing for their own.

y e s ~
for a powerful plist there is a lack of powerful pushes here
except this plist is mostly powerful because it's fun, rather than powerful because we're all 80% winrate mafia gods with massive egos
so idrk what to think about it. damn this fence is getting comfy.

It seems like lilith and Nep are both harping on BuDucky for the same reasons that I haven't been townreading them so far. Not sure if it's just a low-hanging fruit that I also fell for, or actually scum-indicative from the Duckster.

worth noting that i very much felt like nep was standing behind lilith during tis push/engagement

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there's pressuring slots who need pressure which is good and fun and a great time

and then there is pressuring slots who don't need pressure for lazy meme reasons which is very unlikely to actually solve them

what a load of horse shit this post is

eh
there's an element of it that's true
but we have covered the fact i was having a bit of fun @ ur expense yes

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duck, why did you ask me about nepenthes last night?

can't remember, must have seemed important at the time. i'm trying to sort nepenthes. i'm wondering if people are seeing what i'm seeing. i am actively aware that i'm wondering whether you feel pocketed by her. which part makes you curious?

Also did you end up reevaluating your nepenthes read?

i still don't feel wrong but i haven't really deep dived again no

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activity levels

~equal or higher as scum

content

what content???

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there's pressuring slots who need pressure which is good and fun and a great time

and then there is pressuring slots who don't need pressure for lazy meme reasons which is very unlikely to actually solve them

what a load of horse shit this post is

eh
there's an element of it that's true
but we have covered the fact i was having a bit of fun @ ur expense yes

how about I have fun at your expense next

when do you ever not u_u

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Zombie and four are weird posters.

could you talk me through how these two have ended up being in the same tier?
if you have the time i'd appreciate a re-visit of four in particular. they have a posting gimmick, but between the gimmick they have some really interesting content which i think is AI

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timestamps

this is a thing i do sometimes when people have really interesting thoughts very quickly, or have thoughts that feel contemplated sometimes and took Time
i wonder if i accidentally taught IV this trick

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If this is how you're going to read someone like BuDucky or me, you're just never going to townread us. (sorry to bunch you in with me TW, but I feel like correctly reading the both of us has same kind of qualities to them)

it's ok; i was actually thinking that i'm very liable to accidentally slide into your pocket this game. and then realised there's probably a nonzero amount of players on this list who probably feel the same as me.
yay.

This also feels like fence-sitting on purpose. Are you just afraid of being fooled by scum!Ducky?

i think this is a believable anxiety rn yes

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There are some players on this site (I think TW should be included in that list, Boonskiies is one for sure) who I feel like SHOULD always be able to tell when I'm town.

i defend my right to fuck up
pretty sure boon retains a 90%+ read accuracy on me as well. he's been wrong one (1) time

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I’m not sure how to read Lilith, the worst, and something smart. I would pick something smart to be the towniest because he doesn’t seem very “stiff”.

Is that an SS meta read or something else bc lilith and tw dont look stiff either

this kinda reminded me to say something: i agree ss is the towniest in that trio

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can't remember, must have seemed important at the time. i'm trying to sort nepenthes. i'm wondering if people are seeing what i'm seeing. i am actively aware that i'm wondering whether you feel pocketed by her. which part makes you curious?

I’m just like, trying to understand what your motivations and intentions are, in regards to both me and nepenthes

respect and friendship `-`
and getting your alignments correctly

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what content???

I’m too lazy to go through and point out exactly what.
I’m aware this will make me sound scummy and i don’t care.

: )
( :

I've lost track of my gimmick the past few days. Bully

i enjoy it. i also enjoy when u get excited and forget it. keep being you please.

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timestamps

this is a thing i do sometimes when people have really interesting thoughts very quickly, or have thoughts that feel contemplated sometimes and took Time
i wonder if i accidentally taught IV this trick

If that were true, IV's stamps would be upside down!

AUSTRALIA JOKE!

¿sᴉɥʇ pɐǝɹ oʇ ǝɯ ʇɔǝdxǝ noʎ op ʍoɥ ɯɐɟ

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can't remember, must have seemed important at the time. i'm trying to sort nepenthes. i'm wondering if people are seeing what i'm seeing. i am actively aware that i'm wondering whether you feel pocketed by her. which part makes you curious?

I’m just like, trying to understand what your motivations and intentions are, in regards to both me and nepenthes

respect and friendship `-`
and getting your alignments correctly

was asking me about nepenthes more about me or nepenthes?

38% u 62% nep but i can't like, vividly remember

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what reads would you push

I wanted to ask this how many ways are you going to make me hate you

appeals to emotion are only effective against duck, go that way

that was one time....

and i still had the partner NAILED

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duck how are you reading norweej right now?

somewhere eerily close to null

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can't remember, must have seemed important at the time. i'm trying to sort nepenthes. i'm wondering if people are seeing what i'm seeing. i am actively aware that i'm wondering whether you feel pocketed by her. which part makes you curious?

I’m just like, trying to understand what your motivations and intentions are, in regards to both me and nepenthes

respect and friendship `-`
and getting your alignments correctly

was asking me about nepenthes more about me or nepenthes?

38% u 62% nep but i can't like, vividly remember

that’s a very specific percentage.

Did my answer help at all? /what was your reaction to what I said?

i feel slightly warmer about u / i can't remember exactly what posts you're talking about tho

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Tbh Zombie is south of null on votes alone which is likely all theyll be readable by

Tw why do you consider una harder to read than ari

Ari is fun and funny but also plays with his heart on his sleeve; you can taste his earnestness or the faint taste of guilt if you breathe in enough

Una is like on the downlow completely cheeky so mindset tells need to be a bit more drawn out/abstract most of the time

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@duck

Oh yes these made me feel warmer about you.
first one I appreciate cerebrally
second one I gave a little thumbs up to

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Duck do you agree with lilith that norwegian has interacted with other players quite well and did good posting recently?

yeah
I'm finding it hard to scumread him but I enjoyed our interaction and I feel like he has had more good faith interactions than i, kinda expected him to, tbqh

I feel like when he comes back into the thread he's kinda not quite connected in a weird wau though. it's like he's kinda recalibrating for a few posts sometimes.

it's giving me Pause

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if I lynch Nep and she's town I'm gonna be so sad

MOOD

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Ari is fun and funny but also plays with his heart on his sleeve; you can taste his earnestness or the faint taste of guilt if you breathe in enough

Una is like on the downlow completely cheeky so mindset tells need to be a bit more drawn out/abstract most of the time

Im not talking about mindset tells or emotion im talking about their play
I cant read Ari bc of how he approaches solving but una looks readable from here i can see a trajectory
But thats all i wanted to know thanks

I'll circle back to this at a later date.

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You really feel certain about that?
Like something between 75%-100%?

like 73.49%

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???

I baited the wrong person but I'll take it. gottem

I honestly feel like this game has shown me not only the funniest Saudade has had to offer, but also some of the nicest and towniest tones as well.

yeah I agree.

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That last part I bolded...DANGEROUS. I know that feeling, but I do not want you to stay there if you're town.
I already have some murky thoughts about how this game might pan out..

never do

VOTE: Sirius
#siriusvote
#thirdonthewagon
yeeet

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If this is you at your nicest then i feel bad for the players of your previous games

Tw besides the interaction with you what posts of norwee do you like

I'm not keeping a note pt; idk ottomh
sometimes he says thins and I'm like "yeah that's ok" sometimes he says things and I'm like "oh boy". I wouldn't say outside of engagements that he has any Towny Posts ^[TM] in the true meaning of the phrase tbqh

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I reeeally don't want to
this kinda feels like entrapment because I really don't think he has any radiantly Towny posts he's just kind of an acceptable presence sometimes

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Hmmm...not sure if this has any % of loving left in this..

goes without saying that I love you
I'll talk more about something at some point

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18 months ago ..... wild
that was like nearly half my mafia career ago I think
no, I don't feel inclined to towntell the way I did back then

Una should be town here yeah. Lilith has a pretty respectable chance. What's your townfore looking like I'll critique it

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SS you could just like...get a haircut

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I reeeally don't want to
this kinda feels like entrapment because I really don't think he has any radiantly Towny posts he's just kind of an acceptable presence sometimes

Tw i am pushing him and you said you liked his posting ofc im going to ask
smh entrapment
If you think explaining why you find him towny is entrapment then maybe hes not towny

it's almost like I'm near null on him and like some parts of his play and not others and you asked me to explain what I like about the parts I don't like / don't really think much of .... or something crazy like that......

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VOTE: Sirius9121 - scum want this around for lategame way more than town does.
Just get rid of it here, and we can start the game D2.

I think this is town unless Sirius is scum

oh dude this is wild
I wondered whether una would drop Sirius as a scumpartner here and then thought about it and decided maybe not
I enjoy the fact you thought of bussing as well

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duck i’m sad you didn’t tell me if you wanted to hear my secret

oops
I didn't see the question
yes please I love secrets

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Una why do you call the duck BuDucky

My curiosity has gotten the better of me

it's a portmanteau of buddy & Ducky iirc :3
don't ask why I call him Venusaur's Ass

pedit: ah yeah I agree s=>t would be ..... incredibly interesting at that point

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I enjoy the fact you thought of bussing as well

My point was less that bussing was possible (it sure is) and more that that being S -> T was unlikely.

Why is s>t unlikely?

something about "look at all these nuanced productive wagons which may or may not be going places and which I can probably manipulate.......eh I'm gonna vote elimbait" feels pretty counterintuitive to scum!una who is posting very well and probably knows that he can be townread

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duck i’m sad you didn’t tell me if you wanted to hear my secret

oops
I didn't see the question
yes please I love secrets

norweej is the second person I think is buddying me

I can see this.

sorry for answering for SS above btw I'm a bit excited about the call there >_>

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and in the process theoretically making me so worried that he thinks my logic is bad that I forget about trying to read him when he says those things about me

once again
incredibly relatable

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SS was built with a thousand hulls.

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can I get like a sanity check on the norweej thing? like am I just crazy or is that actually possibly what's happening

not at all.

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VOTE: Sirius

I tend to agree with Unah on this issue. I don't think we will ever get content from the slot, so, town or scum, it is a net town benefit to eliminate.

That last part I bolded...DANGEROUS. I know that feeling, but I do not want you to stay there if you're town.
I already have some murky thoughts about how this game might pan out..

never do

VOTE: Sirius
#siriusvote
#thirdonthewagon
yeeet

This is a dumb wagon imo. I've seen a couple slots like this, and they are almost always town. Active lurking is a really risky strategy, so i'm quite worried he might just be an awful newb. And having that as a D1 lynch and it flipping town is... not satisfactory to say the least.

I'm happy with Lilith's vote

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My alts rarely last a day before I alt slip.

I think everyone for whom the alt slip will be meaningful already knows who you are lol

<== Still has no idea but is enjoying the gimmick when it happens

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If I remember correctly, my avatar progression was Saturn -> pixellated map -> Fix-It Felix -> Foo Fighters album cover (gray and yellow with two F's, probably what you were thinking of) -> Saturn again -> Muse album cover (yellow with field-goal thingies) -> Azelf.

hey I know those albums

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* I do not think TW has been pulling the wool over my eyes this game (if you have, kudos to you and FU from Finland with love, as well).

thank u

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IV is slightly on the townier and more active side (I guess?) based on their earlier content, but at the same time it could just be a nervous "noob!scum". Dunno.

IV is absolutely not a noob, just hilarious.

read everything

every. single. word.

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This is a dumb wagon imo. I've seen a couple slots like this, and they are almost always town.

I'll be obnoxious and self-quote something relevant to this I just wrote.

I'd honestly go to LyLo a day earlier because we'd mislynch someone like Sirius who has done literally NOTHING useful, than have that same slot in a 3-player LyLo and basically holding the hammer.

I think saying "sirius is more likely to be town" is a bit of a stretch because they have done NOTHING. Doing NOTHING, vs doing something poorly are two very different things.
They are either scum who don't feel like playing the game, or they are town and don't feel like playing the game. And that's that.
And consider this - no matter their alignment, scum are not going to kill them during a night-phase. Never. Why would they?
So I say we get rid of all the potential WIFOM and paranoia scumgans could use and sow in the later parts of the game NOW, instead of potentially finding us in this same situation a few days later.
In MY experience that's the point where town always loses, because we have "actually scummy" players to lynch, but this one lynchbait-no_use-slot is taking a spot in the upcoming LyLo..

Ty, this is the post I thought but couldn't be bothered typing up

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Please answer me this before I wake up BuDucky - do you still think/agree that Saudade is almost certainly town?

He should be town ya

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And what do you think about their melancholic views of what's to come?

I'm, kind of indifferent, if we're thinking the same thing

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We get innocentvillager AND not_mafia? wild

goodbye sausage </3

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*spits tea*

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do i HAVE to welcome him...

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just kidding - hey pooky.

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this isn't gonna go down like micro 960 right

i think everyone involved learned... an interesting lesson about how sticky games can get when people are incorrectly pushed, and i don't think anybody wants to repeat that experience

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excellent.

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we've all still got the shirt.

Spoiler:

(literally surviving until endgame isn't a necessity)

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hey osuka could we please have a wagon so i can admire how righteous the sirius wagon is?
only if you're free/have the time, no dramas if not

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uh vc* not wagon

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i sincerely think micro 960 was a catastrophe of circumstances and exploded much worse than any of us wanted to.
also very strongly doubt this game will go the same way (and doubly-strongly hope it will not).

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Now I'm just sad and maybe even a little mad.

as long as you're not bad.
if you're bad we'll elim ya.

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VOTE: nor
@osuka can you update it please, the votes changed

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VOTE: sirius gottem

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VOTE: Not_Mafia
Policy lynch.

nor bb you are not the type of player who should be seriously advocating for a policy elim on not_mafia
please resume playing the game

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i love him.

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those are some wise vigs.

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I've been summoned. did someone say garbage~

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1) I fucking love you
2) are you feeling like you have too many parasite-reads and not enough fellow survivors?

I hope you don't mind me bumping ideas of you ducky but I've been thinking about the parasite. If you get it do you think there's any way to remove it? The size of the growth on S_S makes me think it's a death sentence. Even if it is possible to remove it you'd at least be left with some form of scar where it was removed.

I know you're nervous about the lump on SS, but I implore you to consider that it just looks like a pimple. If SS truly had a parasite, I think he would be struggling more with the fluidity of his posting and I'm not sure he picks that moment to antagonise Lilith -- other than the growth, what struck you as parasite-indicative?

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are you 13?

this is offensive to 13 year old mafia players everywhere

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We should vote Nep if we want a serious lynch that'll flip scum imo.
But i'm aware i'm lacking clout so we'll probably end up lynching Sirius for his shit play and he'll flip town.
Sad.

I mean you're not wrrooonnnggfg

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VOTE: norwegian if I’m not already on it

why did you feel strongly compelled to revote here?

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Not_Mafia confirmed their role PM, and replaces LavarManos;

welcome them to the game.

official welcome ilu

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Tw I want to talk about your read on me now and why you have it
If im wrong and it has nothing to do w our mini normal then you can ignore this

Also ya it is still d1 no one should have a complete readlist rn

i almost always have a complete readlist on d1, it's just shitty inaccurate and overblown

yes, you are a stark contrast from our mini normal
there your reads felt insightful and forward-thinking and they were like, little breaths of fresh air and i felt invigorated by your presence.
here it feels like you're constantly on the back foot, your reads feel lukewarm, and i feel like you're pocketing players rather than like. uh. being buddied by me.

what's goin on

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VOTE: foureye

ok i will assume u r right cuz meta

Dude, i was just about to vote Foureyes and justify myself. Now ur making it look like i’m sheeping.
Pooky you big meanie.

1-2 town
@pooks why did u vote foureyes here?

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pooky is town
nor might be town
maybe they're both town
that dialogue is pretty unlikely a scum!nor reaction to a scum!pooky vote

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I do not care if Sirius is conf.town with play like this.
Scum. Will. Not. Kill. Him.
And I do not trust his ability to scumread the correct people -> I do not want Sirius around.

Simple as that.

good post

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We execute Sirius today, and start the "actual gameplay based" executing tomorrow.
We probably lose one day but we have a ton of pages and interactions to analyze, we get rid of a useless slot no matter their alignment, and we'll probably have some night-actions to analyze D2 as well.
If nothing else, then at least one scum-kill / town-save to spice it all up.

Vote Sirius, and don't think about it any longer.
This D1 is already long enough.

VOTE: Sirius

i suddenly feel like aggressively uncomfortable about the sirius elim but also not convinced it's not just scum >_>

pedit: DON'T DEFEND YOURSELF FROM CERTIAN DETATH PLEASE

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Unless lilith and BuDucky stop agreeing with me on this, I'm not moving my vote.
I'm gonna read your arguments against a Sirius-lynch, and if I feel like a good enough point is made, well then fuck it.

Nep or Liverpool are still my top2 candidates for "most scummy" right now - if that means anything to anyone at this point.

all the votes after mine make me feel kinda iffy

VOTE: nepz

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We execute Sirius today, and start the "actual gameplay based" executing tomorrow.
We probably lose one day but we have a ton of pages and interactions to analyze, we get rid of a useless slot no matter their alignment, and we'll probably have some night-actions to analyze D2 as well.
If nothing else, then at least one scum-kill / town-save to spice it all up.

Vote Sirius, and don't think about it any longer.
This D1 is already long enough.

VOTE: Sirius

You think i’m his scum partner.
I would buss the hell out of him if i was FYI. And you know it, you literally stated you would yourself.

No, not his scumpartner.
But scum!Norwegian might play this similarly to how scum!Una would.
And scum!Una would be opposed to a Sirius-lynch based on the very same arguments you have used.

I'd take that baby-Growlithe all the way to LyLo with me and make it an angle for the rest of the game..

ya same it'd be like an emergency d1 elim

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ss do you think we should eliminate sirius or nepenthes or norweej?

Yes.

have i told you today that you're great

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Can you make detective RP again or is that exclusively a scum!Pooky thing?

I only roleplay in games where other people are roleplaying <3

and you aren't a zomie bear why?

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If Foureyes is scum then i think Billy Pilgrim is likely town because he was pushing early and i don't think it would be bussing based on the way he was interacting with him.

interesting take
i have no idea if i agree because my memory is a sieve, but, liek

Huoh.
Once more - these slots aren't refusing to make content.
They have provided, and will assumedly keep providing us with content.

If they are scum, they can't help but to incriminate themselves and their buddies as the game moves forward.
If they are town, they are more valuable to us than scum!Sirius OR town!Sirius.
That's my last line of arguments, and I'm going to bed now.

Lilith has already switched off the wagon, but I'll be watching BuDuckys stance on the matter when I wake up.
I know my vote is too valuable to keep on a slot that is simply not going to be lynched D1, but I still urge people to commit to this cause.
I honestly believe it will be better for us in the long run.

Ugh - peace out.

probably but yolo

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E

he's here.

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Hello the worst

hi hi hi i've missed you

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This seem too easy but on the other hand 1911 is also a really bad post

i feel like Nep has had this fatalist attitude all day, do you think that's scummy? i don't think it's less likely to come from town

i don't agree with this but topically: how many votes is nep on?

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iv - more town than scum bc good solving and he had the opportunity to move onto me and hasnt set himself up to do so but stay on him for more evidence of solving because the more of that there is the more difficult itll be to fake convincingly, if he keeps it up locktown
Four - i dont TR this and he might be buddying me
Sirius - dead slot i dont care about one game of meta
Zombie - null not enough to say for sure
Billy - townish above Zombie
Una - the stand hes taken is on sirius which is a correct option but not very readable. hope youre town
Norwee - scum
tw - our game together just finished and tws approach to me is consistent to the game we just played together. i dont want to locktown him for it but it makes sense that hed be disappointed and gutscumread me when you compare what happened that game to this one. If norwee is scum this is close to locktown. if norwee is town then idk cant help you with the duck
pooky - locktown this was saudade slot
SS - probtown and im trusting lilith also play
NM - close to locktown but if he keeps voting town dont let him get ro endgame
lilith - locktown and towns only hope if una isnt town

#day1reads

one of my brain cells wants to vote four now :0

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VOTE: norwegian if I’m not already on it

why did you feel strongly compelled to revote here?

I didn’t like that he was so adamantly against policy elim on sirius after sirius already showed himself to be a ding dong in this game but wanted to policy elim notmafia without seeing notmafia’s play in this game

does that look bad or is it scummy?

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tw why do you feel uncomfortable if sirius flips town its fine

i don't have words to explain the patterns in my soul

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1-2 town
@pooks why did u vote foureyes here?

1872

valid.

pedit: DON'T DEFEND YOURSELF FROM CERTIAN DETATH PLEASE

I have decided to try posting cute gifs when threatened by imminent death rather than rageposting my emotions directly into the thread

only time will tell if this is a more effective defense strategy

big valid.

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and you aren't a zomie bear why?

I think I just wasn't hugged enough as a child

being brought up in an emotionally abusive household has that effect on people

zombie* oops
i'm sorry about the trauma though :c

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worsty what’s the difference between your scumgame and towngame?

i do a silly cackle every time i get a scum role pm

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I suppose it just looks bad as opposed to actively being scummy. But I still haven’t found a reason to change my read on him.

can you sell me on the wagon pls?

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worsty are you going to answer me seriously or just the meme answer lol

I guess you are saying you enjoy the scum role more?

idk i just returned from hiatus so i'm really out of touch with my ~greater scumrange~
i do enjoy scum more. i also enjoy town.

why are you asking me this, like, i'm just going to give a shitpost answer or outdated meta which makes me look good in this game

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I suppose it just looks bad as opposed to actively being scummy. But I still haven’t found a reason to change my read on him.

can you sell me on the wagon pls?

Which wagon? Norweej?

yes pls

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worsty like I want to strong townread you and sheep your reads like others?

don't do that : [ i'm evil

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@duck

um okay, I think I’m mostly on the same page as you where I read norweej’s posts and half the time I’m just like “meh” and half the time I’m like “???” and 100% of the time I’m at a loss for how to engage with him which I think is independently a bad sign; I haven’t seen anything significantly towny nor have I seen anything outrageously scummy which also puts him at “eerily close to null” for me, and if I go by micro 960 reads and also what seems to be general advice, scum are more likely to be in the nullreads than in the strong townreads or strong scumreads. Now this also applies to nepenthes for me in that I’m not strongly reading her in either direction; but norweej’s posts about me and his intentions towards me seem generally shadier than nepenthes blatantly asking me if she can buddy me

that makes sense, thanks.

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scum = SS/Sausade?

if these two are both scum i will actually consider eating duck postgame.

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pls attack me so I can try to use my adorable puppy defense

how DARE you replace scum!saudade and expose us to yet another

reign of scum!pooky terror

VOTE: pooky no squirming out this time

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i think the Sirius wagon is very reasonable and I am totally fine with it

I hate you:)

i love eating roasted duck
scum = SS/Sausade?

I can’t even blame you it is so good

but a big beautiful duck visited me in my sleep and I got sad and I woke up vegetarian

th- this wasn't me u_u
but welcome to the teamm

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being able to analyse your own reads (incl. nullreads) for how-probably-accurate they are is a really powerful skill i think

pedit: tbh i just think nor is quite hard to talk to sometimes
i'm not really convinced on his alignment, i was trying to get a better sense of why you were voting there. i think it's probably fine.

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scum = SS/Sausade?

if these two are both scum i will actually consider eating duck postgame.

Is it like, such a horrible take that it must come from town? Or is it such an obviously horrible take that scum!sirius attempts to make us think it’s such a horrible take that it must come from town?

oh.. is it a real thought?

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<3 i love it.
VOTE: nepz

did you think it wasn’t?

i have literally no opinion.

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worsty why is Nep scum again? sorry if you’ve said this you can just quote it or whatever

i don't really feel like it rn i'm sorry : (
do you vehemently disagree or just curious

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You haven't earned that nickname tw

i'll call you penth then

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Btw if its not clear im back to thinking iv is close to locktown and you should too
Im not even at E-1 but NM is in this game so hardclaim pr

i'm like, actually worried by the amount of sense iv is making right now.
not worried about his alignment.
worried he might be sick or something.

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you’re good worsty

i think I disagree not sure how strongly though

I did like her reaction to my vote, the first order reasoning being I don’t think scum reversal omguses that blatantly and quickly

hmmmm
VOTE: TheFourEyedDude

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You haven't earned that nickname tw

i'll call you penth then

Okay worse nepz is fine

thanks nepz ^^

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you’re good worsty

i think I disagree not sure how strongly though

I did like her reaction to my vote, the first order reasoning being I don’t think scum reversal omguses that blatantly and quickly

hmmmm
VOTE: TheFourEyedDude

not pr claim related btw

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good to have you back in there.

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*cringe*
yeah

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i'm enjoying the pooky redemption arc!! but i am down sure

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i think he's starting to think you might be town and getting anxious about a deeper wolf.

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hnerejjehfjejfnnmrmmrmmmrmmmmmm
VOTE: nor

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claims for the claim god
i suppose i should have just trusted my intuition on four.

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hnerejjehfjejfnnmrmmrmmmrmmmmmm
VOTE: nor

hello and welcome to the good place

THIS IS THE BAD PLACE. CALLING IT NOW.

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this entire game just reeeeks of the bad place
take off those skinsuits

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hnerejjehfjejfnnmrmmrmmmrmmmmmm
VOTE: nor

hello and welcome to the good place

THIS IS THE BAD PLACE. CALLING IT NOW.

what if I told you I was vicky in a michael suit

you are far too cool to be vicky in a michael suit <3
but i'd buy it.

pedit: feel like it

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i think NM being IC'd is net pro scum but that's just unfortunate, but if anyone wasn't sure, he's entirely off the table

four is... i guess he can still be scum idk that claim is clever to come from a fresh returnee and i don't... know if i really ever thought he was scum i just wanted to see how i felt voting him

nepz should self resolve (and in theory should get easier to sort via wide townrange)

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I've been crumbing a PR quite hard to try to draw the Night Kill and IC Lavar slot, but the plan fails with a hard Pr claim

informed generally doesn't flip with its info

pedit: don't ride around in my pocket, i'm scum irl

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nor wagoning hipster

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he could be informed abt literally anything tho hey

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I feel pretty decently about duck/iv/pooky/nm/four/una/ss/nep town, leaving just: sirius, billy, norweej, zombie as my POE. I feel good about that tbh

i'm a little bit nervous about ss all of a sudden and i can't put my finger on why
nep is town on the proviso she obvtowns or sorts via Dying
i'm town on the proviso i obvtown or sort via Dying

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Good things that are town:
1. Not voting for meats at a butcher
2. Being a duck
3. Washing your hands
4. Brushing your teeth
5. Not being Australian.

First crumb was before Lavar posted using my limited Spanish knowledge

i wish i was smart because this looks like it's great.

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@duck if it helps, I reviewed a couple other SS games to check my read and I still feel okay about my ability to read him

it's ok, i think i'm just nervous out of reverence

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oh i have no opinion on whether it was obvious or not!! just that i missed it, which is more "in character" than anything else : D

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nvm ignore me, foureyes/zombie/una also not mentioned. I was hoping that would just be the solve lmao

This is my first game with N_M so im... excited? *shrugs*

he's an experience

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i don't really know how to describe it. but like. innocentvillager has somehow captured that 'cute newbie smell' and retained it well into his career.

he's not like bumbling/newbish necessarily he's just... fun?

i'm not going to be able to describe this vibe adequately

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i'm probably more interested in why you aren't townreading una if i'm honest, IV

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gotcha, could you talk through what has like impressed you/disinterested you/whatever from una

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i refer the reader to 2162.

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i think he's starting to think you might be town and getting anxious about a deeper wolf.

Let me clarify, you read that the same way I did, that hes thinking I'm town and that someone else is the deeper wolf. Not that hes calling me the deepwolf?

yeah that's how i read it

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hnerejjehfjejfnnmrmmrmmmrmmmmmm
VOTE: nor

Hey ducky, you read una's post the same way that I did. Do you buy that his progression on me is real? Because shortly after that I dropped to one of his top two scumreads. Now Norweej also had some strange progressions wrt my slot so im comfortable voting there, but I'm a bit scared of una at the moment.

sure, i'm actually reading you very similarly.

i think you've asked questions you would as town (i often really struggle to accurately parse your thought process @ sod1 because we approach solving very differently). i also am not surprised in a plist of big!!! noisy!!!!!! players!!!!!!!!! that you've dropped into the poe, and i also don't think you've done anything outside of your ~scumrange~.

the more you post the more i'm like, sure. it wouldn't blow my mind if this is town billy getting started. but i also don't really townread you.

i hope this makes sense, but yeah, i didn't bat an eyelid @ una's progression on you.

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Im not comfortable tring una here at all
He isnt scummy or towny hes just playing good so far

ok this is the kind of shit i've been waiting for.

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gotcha, could you talk through what has like impressed you/disinterested you/whatever from una

Ducky I know my catchup got broken up but what about Una's progression on my slot. You seem to be pushing town!una hard and I had that early, but his flip on my slot didn't seem to be influenced by anything.

his flip on your slot didn't bother me a whole bunch, sorry.

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VOTE: Una

I wanna know how I went from town to one of your top two scumreads without anything you felt a need to comment on. Its like my posts dropped out of your focus, but then I ended up as your top scumread with nep.

i'm really not sure if what you're talking about is a scumtell, but i'm also fine with this vote. i just don't think i'll follow it atm.

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how do i get you to townread me ss?

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for some reason i really can't imagine you townreading me-playing-on-a-secret-alt. i'll try and roll scum better next time.

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how earnest/openminded do you two feel your interactions with each other have been?

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i would like to throw an arm around each of your shoulders and yell "MAY THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP SLAY THE SCUMS".

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i was more asking how earnest/openminded you felt her engagements w u have been
i didn't word the question very well tho, sorry

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i know i'm like 50 pages late to the party but i think lilith is very likely to be town.

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i would be the happiest boy in the world.

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this is perhaps a bit on the personal side for a mafia thread.

Spoiler:

in my head I pictured this magical friendship where we vibe so hard with each other and townblock and kick scumbutts' butts. reality falls short when you don't vibe back and it ruins the image I had of magical vibey friendship, therefore I'm sad.

if it's any comforttttttt i entered the game with the same mental image and then realised i'm extremely easily pocketed/manipulated and got all paranoid and just decided to sort u guys later

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did saudade pay for my entry

you're like, high-probability town yeah
not a clear though because i feel like sausage would love to win a scumgame against this plist

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And I'm sorry that reality has not lived up to your expectation. However, it may still. I don't think that you and I have ever both survived long enough for us to really know how that would play out.

same
just casually including myself in this

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why didn't you vote someone else una >_>

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VOTE: Una

I wanna know how I went from town to one of your top two scumreads without anything you felt a need to comment on. Its like my posts dropped out of your focus, but then I ended up as your top scumread with nep.

i'm really not sure if what you're talking about is a scumtell, but i'm also fine with this vote. i just don't think i'll follow it atm.

Wait, what are YOU doing right now Ducky?
Has everyone lost their minds overnight?

i lost my mind many years ago, dearest.

pedit: this site has this definition of informed?

Yes. Informed means you are given some information. I would be surprised to hear it meaning something else on a different site.

this made me like, actually laugh

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I am glad the Scandnavians are here - I love the Nordic countries. I wish I could live there =)

same here

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don't worry nor he's just scum

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At least Pooky will probably live now, assuming Nep and Foureyes were being honest.
I believe Foureyes claim møre though, because he crumbed it and it was so unique i doubt scum would make it.
Nep’s claim was a bit meh, but i accept that they’ll live for today and just treat them as likely town for the time being.

fwiw i agree strongly

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uh

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are you my dear old friend RoadstarParasite?

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i'm really sorry i actually put like vivid effort into *not* IDing alts so i'm trying my hardest not to think about those clues too hard

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vote count

day 1, weird shitty duck vc

infant arcanine

(4, E-3) - glasses, zombac, nepz, intravenus

tromsø

(2) - chili queen, duck

bilpilz

(1) - infant arcanine

nepz

(1) - azelf

clodpole

(1) - clodpole

venusaur's ass

(1) - bilpilz

Not Voting

(3) - venusaur's ass, tromsø, reformed grizzly bear

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to execute.

The day will end in (expired on 2020-09-06 18:22:00).

i think this is it btw

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1) I fucking love you
2) are you feeling like you have too many parasite-reads and not enough fellow survivors?

1) Love you too
2) If anything it's the opposite.
Town {You, lillith, una, nep, pooky, NM}
Lean town {four, iv}
Null {SS}
Lean scum {BP, norwee}

don't care {Sirius}

ELEPHANTS!!! dude good to see you again ♥
i like this alt's gimmick

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Why have i become a city much longer north in my country where i don’t live.
I live right in the center where the weather can go from 2C° and snowing to 22C° and sunny with a blue sky in the span of about 1-2 hours.

tromsø is the same, except from -2 to -22 and Cold
it reminds me of you because it's very pretty and mysterious, yet cold and distant from me

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i keep telling you all i'm the deepwolf. i don't know how much i have to say it before someone finally votes me.

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vote count

day 1, weird shitty duck vc

infant arcanine

(4, E-3) - glasses, zombac, nepz, intravenus

tromsø

(2) - chili queen, duck

bilpilz

(1) - infant arcanine

nepz

(1) - azelf

clodpole

(1) - clodpole

venusaur's ass

(1) - bilpilz

Not Voting

(3) - venusaur's ass, tromsø, reformed grizzly bear

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to execute.

The day will end in (expired on 2020-09-06 18:22:00).

i think this is it btw

can anyone translate this into humanese?

you are infant arcanime
glasses is foureyed
zombac is a typo for zombap
nepz is nepz
intravenous = IV = innocentvillager
tromsø = NorwegianboyEE
chili queen = Lilith
duck = me hello what's up
bilpilz = bilpilz
azelf = SS (I think you Likely know this)
clodpole = not_mafia, the only non-clodpole on the plist
venusaur's ass = una (with love)
reformed grizzly bear = pooky

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if the poe is teeny tiny and very boring we should probably just pelim Sirius yea

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if

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It’s gone quiet... too quiet.

sausage is gone and everyone is too intimidated by my true identity being revealed

basically yeah

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you drive a bug?? wow I wouldn't have picked that.

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TW is billy just scum here?

m

a

y

b

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~

~

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generally posts have to have content in them which actually engages with the game

can you like, show/tell us what of nor's posting has struck you as towny?

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@sirius, assume i'm an alien who literally has no idea how to play mafia (you would be correct):
how are those posts town indicative for nor?

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what if i told u
nor is a sassy binch as scum too

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i was just starting to get thirsty.

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MASSCLAIM MASSCLAIM

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That K is annoying me. Pretend it's an OK please

K will do

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I wanna see umbreon's plan to end this phase with a redflip

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libel.

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@mod: VLA until 9/6

HYPE GOOD LUCK!!!

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That K is annoying me. Pretend it's an OK please

How come you can’t spell the word “dispenser”?

Looks OK to me?

@osuka

please announce/update this in the op, i am 100% going to forget it happened

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Can someone give me a 100 by 100 pic of a water dispenser?

deceptively fucking difficult


can you try this if you like it?

Yup, replacing into a scumslots is the worst (no offence)

sometimes yeah

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Your blind fate in this slot is almost "too scummy to be scum."

Water seems to be intent on proving his predecessor is town rather than perform as town. I do not like this.

this thing makes sense
not at a literal level (i don't think sirius would bother with this botched attempt again)
but the mindset read checks out

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This is not a valid argument.

write off the point system, analyse mindset

sirius has a "scum need to do things" mindset
sirius has a "town needs to be sincere" mindset
sirius is obviously not very good at sorting players
ergo, on the balance of probabilities him being sincere and garbo is a towntell

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BuDucky wants me to make some sort of a move apparently?
And I almost feel like not doing anything just because of that.

i struggle with taking the initiative u_u

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There's also this one thing I've been intentionally avoiding. A little detail I've made sure not to talk about yet.
I do not necessarily like the fact that people are just fine with Nep claiming "a PR" instead of something concrete.
Now I've been waiting for some of the more experienced players to take at least some stance on it, and maybe demand a more accurate claim.
But no. And I find it weird as all hell, especially since none of lilith/BuDucky/S_S questioned it any further. I must have misjudged their mentalities on the matter.

Anyone and everyone who were voting/willing to vote for Nep before that claim - why are you satisfied with a claim of just "a PR"?
You do realize, that they are not locked into

ANY KIND

of claim right now, and in the scenario of scum!Nep have free reign of planning their role out with their teammate overnight?

I feel like Nep is still scum, but at least one of the vocal pushers is also scum, and were more than happy to unvote and move on.

this is correct but let's not have her fullclaim

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So it's S_S after all who I should trust, and Ducky's the one I should suspect?

OBVIOUSLY

I feel like it's townier to want a more concrete claim, at least the kind that can't be wiggled into pretty much anything in a massclaim.

sure w/e i'm just hoping she's sorted by nk

Fck it, who am I trying to fool here.
I just don't want to lose to a scum!Duck and that feeds into my paranoia for no good reason.

:*

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Billy Pilgrim

show me what ur seeing?

Nepenthes

no

Hasn't the Worst unexpectedly started taking the backseat lately.

14hr workdays yday/today + other hobbies soryey

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So you can't read me. Put me at null. Apply logic= "scum are usually in nullreads" and that's your reason for suspecting me all game?
Pft.

do you think lilith is trying to miselim u or making a mistake? / if latter where is her mistake

I guess this will be a good lesson for you on how to avoid applying your theory incorrectly then.

armchair scumhunting is fine
shitpushing is fine
armchair shitpushing is pretty dull
try again

I don't think you'd keep arguing with me like this if you were scum.
So my read haven't changed much, but i did hope maybe you'd change it a bit.

indeed

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And on the hundredth page, we have an interaction that shows that lilith is consistent with what she's been saying for just about 40 pages?

Good use of most of 25 posts.

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actually the next like 5 posts are hilarious too
quality page

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Somethings gone wrong here, this "universal PoE" or whatever someone called it sucks balls.
Where's the deepwolf :/
Even if it's Billy, who else?

again: where are we wrong?

Maybe the team is something amazingly OP like Worst/S_S/IV or Una.

OH SHIT GUYS

Was going to do a votecount soon but about to get hit by a tornado (maybe) so we'll see

not head-on pls they're meant to Hurt
(be safe)

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i feel like osuka may be somewhat of a revisionist...

The problem is that any scum can just shittily say "I hard claim PR" on day 1 and get away with it for a while. Nep didn’t even specify what they are or make any sort of explanation of how their role will confirm anything.
I might as well just hard claim PR myself.
How about we all hard claim PR.
What’s the difference. You think any scum would say: "i’m vanilla!" and then we’d safely lynch them? I’m actually a bit mad at myself for letting only Una bring this up as a wake up call till now.
Nep’s claim really wasn’t good. There’s no way it confirms anything and i didn’t see anything from their play that made me think: "they might be PR!"
VOTE: Nepenthes

sure, fine
can we kill nep's partners today tho lol

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bear with me

you know i was thinking earlier pooky's deepwolf equity is fairly high

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VOTE: Pooky

I know this is a stretch but bear with me. Saudade was posting good, like real good, and way outside their normal style. But what if they saw this Playlist and decided to actually play? And yeah, that's not a case, but i feel like Pooky had a high shade ratio in their posts and they aren't backing it up with votes. Hell he literally told someone else to case me while he wasn't voting me. That feels scummy.

Also, given that the consensus poe is pretty tight and it has me in it and I know im town, one of these consensus townreads has to be wrong and at the minute my money is on the bear.

now THAT'S a hot take xD

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IDK, as far as saudade slot goes, I am a strong believer that if the predecessor was insanely towny the replacement can scumclaim and I wouldn't believe it. Saudade wasn't just high efforting, I just don't think he's very good at scum compared to how intense he is as town, although that is admittedly from a one game meta

sausage is very good at scum, his scumgame is sometimes sandbagged by lack of free time

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quicksolve billy/norweej/sirius tbh? None of them will vote for each other even though from at least a hypothetical town!billy and town!norweej’s point of view, their best bet for survival is voting someone else in the POE. That leads me to think maybe it’s because they don’t want to vote anyone else in the POE because they’re scum together? maybe?

this would be a great solve
gth i think it's wrong
but it would be amazing

If we’re talking ~paranoia~ in the strong townreads, my best bet is duck

thank you!!!! i keep telling you all i'm the deepwolf and finally someone listened

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i heard that posting too much while v/la is a scumtell that only scum do, because they're scum

Nep mentioned worsty's early handle of the push on her slot but I honestly think scum!worsty is capable of a lot including that especially d1 and I have ~reasons to be scared as fuck

i would absolutely be the same as scum, i might be a little bit more aggressive if i was going for a longterm pocket

oh yeah, norweej’s reasons for townreading duck were really weird

“obvtown”? “posting a lot”? “producing content”?

you know me, sure hate posting as scum
(i agree strongly)

lilith im going to be so upset if you're scum

ditto

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LIBEL AGAIN.

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i think the claim is independently clever and foury is independently increasingly towny.
i think claiming an inno on a scumbuddy is firmly within a returning player's "this is a good idea" range.

also don't think it's a thing, but, there ya go

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oh lavar was towny too