honey i'm homeIn post 678, Sirius9121 wrote:GeorgeBailey has requested replacement. They have been replaced by Battle Mage. Please welcome them!
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hi Datisi! and yup thankfully! i was a bit worried when i saw the votecountIn post 681, Datisi wrote:hi battle mage!! you town?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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what's the long and short of it? how did we end up 28 pages deep with no flip? any claims etc?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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in the meantime i shall venture bravely into the unknown
VOTE: innocent villagerShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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lol does Datisi have a thing with self-voting in this game or what? i saw he did it earlier too.In post 685, Sirius9121 wrote:Official Vote Count
Datisi(2): innocentvillager, Datisi
innocentvillager(2): Staarling, Battle Mage
Battle Mage(2): Gypyx, Iconeum
shellyc(1): Ydrasse
Not Voting(2): MiniMegabyte, shellyc
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2020-11-03 20:10:00)Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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my initial take was Shelly could be scum here - way too eager in the early pages - but nothing solid. we do only have 1.5 days until deadline so probably time to make something happen.In post 686, Datisi wrote:
no claims so far, we barely had wagons go to L-2In post 684, Battle Mage wrote:what's the long and short of it? how did we end up 28 pages deep with no flip? any claims etc?
there's been some pushing between me and shelly and iv, i think at least one of them is scum, skim the past 3-4 pages on why
ico is very town
i have a vague townlean on your slot (please don't make me regret it)
uhh nothing really memorable has actually happened so far
you can ask why, but i wont tell you yet.
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i'd laugh so hard if you were scum with IV and the votecount was continually outting youIn post 688, Datisi wrote:
@mod i'm not self voting pls stopIn post 685, Sirius9121 wrote:Datisi (2): innocentvillager, Datisi
pedit: i haven't self-voted once in this entire game, the vote counter is counting my "vote: iv" as a self vote, and the mod didn't like the solution is presented to him (cough 670)
it doesnt fucking work i did it lol pls make a post that contains vote:ivShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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ill UNVOTE:
VOTE: innocent villager
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what can i say? i'm an excellent player and everyone loves me.In post 693, Datisi wrote:
voting my one scumread and thinking the other one is scum too, ohh i have good feelings for this gameIn post 689, Battle Mage wrote:my initial take was Shelly could be scum here - way too eager in the early pages - but nothing solid. we do only have 1.5 days until deadline so probably time to make something happen.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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man i am not overwhelmed with Ico's iso...so much effort on tunnelling my slot. *shakes head*Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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nope me too buddy, thanks for the welcome and see ya tomorrow!In post 701, Datisi wrote:BM, i'm about to pass out, ya need anything to make yourself at home here before i do that?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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if you're a dad, you'll know...In post 476, Staarling wrote:What does the daddy thing mean?
don't worry, i'm on the case!In post 490, Ydrasse wrote:yeaaaaah mr. bailey’s presence being meager combined with these weird mentions here and there feels off to me but like, i have no read on gb so it’s unfair to run with that until he’s more activeShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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I howled with laughter.In post 324, Iconeum wrote:
holy fuck i'm getting wreckedIn post 320, MiniMegabyte wrote:
Im here just didnt realise the game started lol.In post 257, Iconeum wrote:I see we are still a couple heads down so far
where's Mini and the Bailey?
I feel like you are town and from my understanding you're fairly new to this?
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having played on a scumteam with Ydrasse before, I'd be inclined to agree with Shelly.In post 625, Datisi wrote:
this game is more efforty for ydrasse compared to previous scumgames? i miiiight go check out boardgames if necessary laterIn post 621, shellyc wrote:i wasn't referring to how high effort ydra was between my posts
- ydrasse being really solvey d1 with good tone as well feels like her towngame
- me: ok this is probtown but can ydrascum do that?
- me goes check ydrascum games
- me concludes no.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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some serious backup! hi Pooky!
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lol it's not a thing tbh as I'm town *shrug*In post 813, shellyc wrote:will vote today: gypyx, BM, mini?
gypyx/BM is a thing tbh, gypyx pushing BM but not voting in critical points is pretty tellingShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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i am also a bit wary of Gypyx hesitation, although don't think it implies Gypyx/Shelly is a thing.In post 814, Iconeum wrote:i thought that gypyx/shellyc could be a thing because gypyx didn't mention you in their townreads, but is also unwilling to simply put you at E-1 with only a day left on the clock and with gypyx's townread pushing youShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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also Gypyx is still voting me despite me being a top townread lolShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Ydrasse town, at least 1 town in Ico-Datisi...the Shelly wagon looks ok.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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damnit!! i was just reading the VC - it's a novelty to get an up to date VC these days... lolShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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In post 828, Iconeum wrote:
not without a proper L-1 they're notIn post 824, Battle Mage wrote:you should claim though, I'll be back later
i'm not precious about people only claiming at L-1 - it looked pretty inevitable to me that Shelly was getting run up to L-1 if she didn't claim.In post 829, Datisi wrote:
why not put her on L-1 if you want her to claim?In post 824, Battle Mage wrote:you should claim though, I'll be back later
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In post 832, Iconeum wrote:
this better be a joke...In post 822, Battle Mage wrote:damnit!! i was just reading the VC - it's a novelty to get an up to date VC these days... lol
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im meant to be at work lolIn post 865, shellyc wrote:the gunsmith requires BM to vote gypyx now
can you read that iso and tell me what you think at least
i'll vote gypyx but you better be checking me tonight! i need some of that sweet conftown status
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lol please stop throwing me into your solves for no reason, it instantly makes me disengaged.In post 867, shellyc wrote:
what if gypyx was scum with say, BM, and didn't catchup with the game and didn't have partner to tell them about the gameIn post 863, Iconeum wrote:like, those solves are so out of the blue i don't really see them coming from scum?
the solves seem like 1 minute skimworkShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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true, a clean gunsmith result isn't a complete clear. although it's a 9 player game, so i'd guess mafia doc is fairly unlikely. there are other options though probably.In post 869, Gypyx wrote:Maf doctor might be a thing also, keep in mindShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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ah i hadnt seen this, nice claim. VOTE: minimegabyteIn post 844, Gypyx wrote:
I was townreading staarling since pretty early into the game, apparently i didn't post that so you'll just have to take my word for itIn post 811, Iconeum wrote:You probably just read somewhere that 'straaling' is a uni townread, so you stick to that
You townread Datisi, but are unwilling to vote shellyc and don't see the scumpart in shellyc who shitpushed your number 2 townread?
GB read is fine or whatever
You also don't wanna Exe-1 someone you don't townread (you just gave a top 3 townread, shellyc not in it), who just tried to push one of your main townreads for crap reasons, and retracted everything faster then I could push it, with deadline this close because
'oh no I don't wanna put someone on l-1' is just terrible
And for the rest of the post i was like around half of my catchup, so of course i wasn't aware for your point around datisi and of course i'm not putting shelly at exe-1
Anyways as BM pointed out UNVOTE: finishing this read
Pedit : bruh ok, i'll premtively claim too, i'm VTShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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nah, i just wanna get conftowned because i'm more liable to get dayflipped when i rep in. as noted, i recognise it isn't actual conftown, but depends entirely on what else flips (i.e. if we flip a scum RB or something, less likely to have a scum doctor). but setup spec not my forte. it's WIFOM I guess, but I'm not drawing that much attention to myself as scum doc lol.In post 876, shellyc wrote:
me the legendary gunsmithIn post 871, Battle Mage wrote:
lol please stop throwing me into your solves for no reason, it instantly makes me disengaged.In post 867, shellyc wrote:
what if gypyx was scum with say, BM, and didn't catchup with the game and didn't have partner to tell them about the gameIn post 863, Iconeum wrote:like, those solves are so out of the blue i don't really see them coming from scum?
the solves seem like 1 minute skimwork
protective
VTs
mafia doctor
mafia goon
reasonable actually
is bm just hard claiming scum doc hereShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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i buy the shelly claim based on her over-enthusiastic early play - accords with the zeal of a town PR in a small game.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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*shrug* i instinctively bought the claim. it doesnt feel like this should be a hard game really.In post 887, Datisi wrote:+1 to ico, two claims are probably enough for the day, what's the play with running up a third one?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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i guess we can look at minimegabyte tomorrow - it feels like a good amount of sensible consensus here. im not convinced on the gypyx wagon though - and i'm an expert on reading Gypyx.
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2 for 2 at least - you can be an apprentice i guess, unless you're right here.In post 894, Iconeum wrote:
i'll have you know i am 1 for 1 in catching scumpyxIn post 891, Battle Mage wrote:and i'm an expert on reading Gypyx.
what's your recordShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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yeah i got some thoughts but nothing hot and heavyIn post 892, Datisi wrote:you got thoughts on mini? she's definitely on my list to look into tomorrowShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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from what i remember, gypyx obvscums as scum, i didnt see that here. i'm reasonably happy we have a good townblock here and should win this game by process of elimination, so i'm fairly easygoing today.In post 893, shellyc wrote:whats the rules for reading gypyx and why are you joining despite not being convincedShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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thanks!In post 899, Iconeum wrote:nice statsShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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hey im doing my best, i asked for a cop investigation as an easy solve lolIn post 903, Iconeum wrote:
i'm also considerably happy with the townblock but ehIn post 900, Battle Mage wrote:
from what i remember, gypyx obvscums as scum, i didnt see that here. i'm reasonably happy we have a good townblock here and should win this game by process of elimination, so i'm fairly easygoing today.In post 893, shellyc wrote:whats the rules for reading gypyx and why are you joining despite not being convinced
you ain't in it
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did a quick re-read of IV. given IV loves to distance hard, most likely partners would be Datisi or Gypyx. So a Gypyx scumflip maybe means look at IV before Mini.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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lolIn post 905, Iconeum wrote:well you hard claimed scum doc
i think they are cleared by gunsmiths?
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Pfft I reserve the right to reject your Gunsmith claim if you don't deliver results.In post 910, shellyc wrote:
as the Gunsmith I propose to reject BM's application if he doesn't obvtown soonIn post 908, Iconeum wrote:maybe you can apply for TownBlock tomorrowShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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lol from your perspective it would literally have to be me and Mini? i'd love to see someone case thatIn post 916, Gypyx wrote:
I doubt it honesrly, like if it is congrats but things are rarely this simpleIn post 915, shellyc wrote:tinfoil hat solve: mini/gypyx/BM contains all 2 scum
also Shelly, you gotta give up these solves with me in them. *shakes head*Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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ah come on, you know im capable of flip-flopping as town.In post 914, Gypyx wrote:Bm's flip flopping is kinda weird though, i agree that it's worth keeping an eye onShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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every time you call me scum...it cuts like daggers to the heart.In post 913, Iconeum wrote:
shhh, i'm just playing along with scumBM here so they don't fearkill me over youIn post 910, shellyc wrote:
as the Gunsmith I propose to reject BM's application if he doesn't obvtown soonIn post 908, Iconeum wrote:maybe you can apply for TownBlock tomorrowShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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if Gypyx flips town, Shelly's claim is legit, and I buy Staarling as town (which I slightly do), that leaves 2 scum in:
Iconeum
Datisi
MiniMegabyte
innocentvillager
which probably means the play should be Mini given I don't think Ico is scum with Datisi or IV.
If we flip Mini and are wrong, that clears Ico, and means the solve is Datisi-IV.
Maybe. Of course, if Gypyx flips scum, that probably implicates IV the most, so I'd go there first, although if we hit scum today I think we ought to be home and dry.
It's a small game though, so not much margin for error. Gypyx isn't exactly fighting hard for survival.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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oh I missed Ydrasse out above, but I'm just assuming Ydrasse town is a lock.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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if Shelly is a gunsmith of course, she could pull a good result tonight with quite a small pool to play with. I think if we flip town today, there's a case for massclaiming tomorrow to try and avoid 2 consecutive days of ExLo.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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it's possible we no-elim today if there isn't a hammer before deadline, which worsens the position significantly.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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lol nice selective quoting. that was part of a list of assumptions - none of which relied on each other. I'm feeling better about your flip now.In post 927, Gypyx wrote:
How is my alignement linked to shelly?In post 921, Battle Mage wrote:if Gypyx flips town, Shelly's claim is legitShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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if you were town here Gypyx, I don't understand why you didn't put up more of a fightShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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go back and look at my original post. did you think the other assumption you removed was linked too? You're straw-manning me here. It was a list of unrelated assumptions - on the face of it, I don't believe you could legitimately misinterpret it as you have done.In post 930, Gypyx wrote:
I still don't get that assumption, like why not just "shelly's claim is legit" if that's not linked?In post 928, Battle Mage wrote:
lol nice selective quoting. that was part of a list of assumptions - none of which relied on each other. I'm feeling better about your flip now.In post 927, Gypyx wrote:
How is my alignement linked to shelly?In post 921, Battle Mage wrote:if Gypyx flips town, Shelly's claim is legitShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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who are your scumreads again?In post 931, Gypyx wrote:
I don't think i can sway the votes out of me, and even less on my scumreadsIn post 929, Battle Mage wrote:if you were town here Gypyx, I don't understand why you didn't put up more of a fightShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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im in favour of a hammer now, to get a result and keep the game moving if we are already decided on the flip.
Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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