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[innocentvillager]

another pagetop for daddy

[innocentvillager]

innocent villager seemed excited to play with Datisi at the start of this so i don't get why he looks unhappy to play with him now

I'm not unhappy to play with him, i think it's just kind of how the gamestate evolved. mafia is a game of argument and sometimes it gets heated. the day the argument started i also happened to go through some RL stuff.

daddisi still <3 you as mod or player.

[MiniMegabyte]

I’m on mobile right now and most of what I can see are pretty long posts so I’ll catch this game up when I get home

[Sirius9121]

GeorgeBailey has requested replacement. They have been replaced by Battle Mage. Please welcome them!

[Battle Mage]

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honey i'm home

[Datisi]

ico posted this meme in response to shelly calling him lamisty. From what I understand one of saudade's big tells early game at least from the two games i played with town!him is that when people are deflectiony to these early accusations in an attempt to seem like they don't care. I felt that this reaction somewhat fell into that category. You modded 2163 and saw how he used it to catch Kerset early. He caught me early as scum in 2160 with this tell as well, so I've seen a 2/2 success rate for finding scum with this tell which is incredibly high even with small sample size given the base rate should be 25%.

i don't think that's what happened in 2163. saudade caught kerset because their second vote was also non-serious, which he took as a sign of lack of scumhunting or whatever. unless i'm forgetting the early game there but i can't be fucked to go check that right now. anyway, i can see this coming from town!you but it's also relatively easily fakeable. NAI.

i think we agreed that gypyx's 60 tonally seemed somewhat towny and after questioning him I got a better sense of his thought process on those reads. i remember having him as like "null but watch this slot" which, ironically I didn't really end up doing much of between skimming catchups and shitfighting with you. i also felt that there wasn't much more to be gained from that specific interaction, it had run its course by then, so i didn't see a strong reason to keep pushing it

the interaction running its course is "fine", the first part is meh, you were just talking about giving someone breathing room when there's heat on them to be a wasted oportunity, and i'd need to see a bit more why you thought he was back to null for you, so like vaguely slightly +scum pending that response?

there, that's what i got from those two responses.

[Datisi]

hi battle mage!! you town?

[Battle Mage]

hi battle mage!! you town?

hi Datisi! and yup thankfully! i was a bit worried when i saw the votecount

[Battle Mage]

what's the long and short of it? how did we end up 28 pages deep with no flip? any claims etc?

[Battle Mage]

in the meantime i shall venture bravely into the unknown

VOTE: innocent villager

[Sirius9121]

Official Vote Count

Datisi

(1): innocentvillager

innocentvillager

(3): Staarling, Battle Mage, Datisi

Battle Mage

(2): Gypyx, Iconeum

shellyc

(1): Ydrasse

Not Voting

(2): MiniMegabyte, shellyc

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-11-03 20:10:00)

[Datisi]

what's the long and short of it? how did we end up 28 pages deep with no flip? any claims etc?

no claims so far, we barely had wagons go to L-2

there's been some pushing between me and shelly and iv, i think at least one of them is scum, skim the past 3-4 pages on why
ico is very town
i have a vague townlean on your slot (please don't make me regret it)

uhh nothing really memorable has actually happened so far

pedit: oooh
may i ask why?

[Battle Mage]

Official Vote Count

Datisi

(2): innocentvillager, Datisi

innocentvillager

(2): Staarling, Battle Mage

Battle Mage

(2): Gypyx, Iconeum

shellyc

(1): Ydrasse

Not Voting

(2): MiniMegabyte, shellyc

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-11-03 20:10:00)

lol does Datisi have a thing with self-voting in this game or what? i saw he did it earlier too.

[Datisi]

Datisi (2): innocentvillager, Datisi

@mod i'm not self voting pls stop

pedit: i haven't self-voted once in this entire game, the vote counter is counting my "vote: iv" as a self vote, and the mod didn't like the solution is presented to him (cough 670)

it doesnt fucking work i did it lol pls make a post that contains vote:iv

[Battle Mage]

what's the long and short of it? how did we end up 28 pages deep with no flip? any claims etc?

no claims so far, we barely had wagons go to L-2

there's been some pushing between me and shelly and iv, i think at least one of them is scum, skim the past 3-4 pages on why
ico is very town
i have a vague townlean on your slot (please don't make me regret it)

uhh nothing really memorable has actually happened so far

my initial take was Shelly could be scum here - way too eager in the early pages - but nothing solid. we do only have 1.5 days until deadline so probably time to make something happen.

pedit: oooh
may i ask why?

you can ask why, but i wont tell you yet.

[Battle Mage]

Datisi (2): innocentvillager, Datisi

@mod i'm not self voting pls stop

pedit: i haven't self-voted once in this entire game, the vote counter is counting my "vote: iv" as a self vote, and the mod didn't like the solution is presented to him (cough 670)

it doesnt fucking work i did it lol pls make a post that contains vote:iv

i'd laugh so hard if you were scum with IV and the votecount was continually outting you

[Datisi]

it doesnt fucking work i did it lol pls make a post that contains vote:iv

well then edit it into my earlier post because now the order of the votes on the wagon is wrong goddammit

[Battle Mage]

im already enjoying this game

[Datisi]

my initial take was Shelly could be scum here - way too eager in the early pages - but nothing solid. we do only have 1.5 days until deadline so probably time to make something happen.

voting my one scumread and thinking the other one is scum too, ohh i have good feelings for this game

[Battle Mage]

ill UNVOTE:

VOTE: innocent villager

just to fix the vote order

[Battle Mage]

my initial take was Shelly could be scum here - way too eager in the early pages - but nothing solid. we do only have 1.5 days until deadline so probably time to make something happen.

voting my one scumread and thinking the other one is scum too, ohh i have good feelings for this game

what can i say? i'm an excellent player and everyone loves me.

[Battle Mage]

why is Ico-town voting for me??

[Datisi]

sure, maybe those questions make more sense "to you", but it's not just about the reads you formed or didn't form in that moment, it's about looking at your reads across the game. (and i kinda wrote about it in the above posts, but it's because you were gone for a while so i'd expect you to have Actual Thoughts on things that are happening, and having just one random townread on a person who isn't posting is lowkey lazy, not wanting to go against anyone, *and* easy to walk back from, which is behaviour often seen in scum!)

of the "reasons" you said you gave in respond to my wall I really only saw this? which you've already said you had reservations about long before my wallpost, which was still when you were "null" on me

reasons in my posts because of which i dislike your wall:
653 - you're saying that you have enough content for me to have at least some sorta opinion on you, implying that i haven't tried to form one. i'm showing that i very well have (while also pointing out that the amount of content you had produced is really not *that much*)
654 - you're saying that i'm not trying to sort you while *also* saying i'm shading you when talking to ico - my "shade" is a take (a sort?) that i have on you.
655 - you're pre-emptively saying that you don't think my questions would actually be useful for me in sorting you, that i'm faking it, while not even bothering to test that thought

and i had two townreads not one from my brief skim, the other was ydrasse but honestly still weird that you're pushing a one sentence catchup post where i say two townreads

i'm not exactly counting ydrasse townread as much becuase saying "x is town" especially when that's consensus-y is not like... a big play.

also i've said why i keep pushing that post so like

and also, I have a hard time believing you think I, of all people in this game, am scum for "not wanting to go against anyone". Am i being lazy this game? yeah, i am, is that scum indicative for me, maybe. and I really should stop responding to your walls and iso some other players but like... idk we keep getting into discussions and i currently feel the least good about you anyway.

why should i not be thinking that? like "not wanting to step on toes" is some of textbook scum behaviour... also yeah maybe you should, considering you apparently don't have a read on one third of the game so far (:

[Battle Mage]

looks like Gypyx vote on me is just RVS

[Battle Mage]

man i am not overwhelmed with Ico's iso...so much effort on tunnelling my slot. *shakes head*