I object to this post on the grounds I am most definitely a nerd! As such I should not be called out separately!
Anyway, I look forward to a fun game with you all.
I object to this post on the grounds I am most definitely a nerd! As such I should not be called out separately!
I haven’t played with UCV in quite a while but he never struck me as the incisive mind typeIn post 39, Noraa wrote:How interesting. UC voyager reminds me of unwnd and he's posted what like 3 posts?
I replaced out of it but I believe I had one game with IVD where he scummed it up pretty bad early as townIn post 46, Noraa wrote:ItalianoVD - seems pretty towny as scum. town behavior I haven't paid much attention to/havent seen. can't remember which.
Fair enoughIn post 66, Noraa wrote:unwnd doesn't either but unwnd has great reads!
as long as UC catches me all the scum idc if his thought process is deep or shallow
idk if I'm as confident as you but kyouko seems a little off so far imoIn post 86, Noraa wrote:I think that the one with the underscore is scum. ss__ that one
um because their posts on page 73 has a weird interaction w/ UC. Post 73 feels super extra.
Can you articulate why? I can see a potential logic to this comment, I wonder if I'm right about it.In post 117, Lukewarm wrote:Do not like this post.In post 113, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think the main thing I wanna address here is the part about directly talking to Noraa
what I see as the core cause of that is that Noraa simply has the most posts so far, by a sizable margin. So it's easiest to interact with her.
VOTE: Gamma
May I speak on this? After OP answers of course, if I have something to add at that pointIn post 133, ItalianoVD wrote:Correction, there were four wagons with 2 votes: Gamma, STD, Max, and VFP. I’m curious why VFP’s stood out to you over the others.In post 123, ItalianoVD wrote:But my thing is why did you single out the VFP voters? Why not the Johnny voters or the Noraa voters. I’m trying to understand your angle here and it’s not making me feel good.
Not to be rude, but I do feel like you've at least had false starts in this regard, times you thought you had it figured out but found your body of work to be off. As such, I'd like some examples of who you've managed to figure out over time.In post 135, Noraa wrote:at least I have never met someone who could trick me once I got their meta nailed down >.<
Well there was also the part about me being chill, which while I could speak on it, my words would be meaninglessIn post 144, Lukewarm wrote:I feel like you approached it defensively, when Noraa was not scum reading you for it, and I when I read through, I did not think twice about it. But for you it was "the main thing you wanna address here"In post 122, Gamma Emerald wrote:Can you articulate why? I can see a potential logic to this comment, I wonder if I'm right about it.In post 117, Lukewarm wrote:Do not like this post.In post 113, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think the main thing I wanna address here is the part about directly talking to Noraa
what I see as the core cause of that is that Noraa simply has the most posts so far, by a sizable margin. So it's easiest to interact with her.
VOTE: Gamma
Felt like you were primed to defend yourself
yeah I thought like this too, it's why I voted VFPIn post 152, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:VFP's actually had movement of people coming on and off, so it stood out to me. I think at the time there had been 3 people, maybe 4 that had voted VFP at some point. 2 RVS votes on the same person does not a wagon make. When votes start going on and off like that though, it piques my interestIn post 133, ItalianoVD wrote:Correction, there were four wagons with 2 votes: Gamma, STD, Max, and VFP. I’m curious why VFP’s stood out to you over the others.In post 123, ItalianoVD wrote:But my thing is why did you single out the VFP voters? Why not the Johnny voters or the Noraa voters. I’m trying to understand your angle here and it’s not making me feel good.
I can think of a purpose behind such a role, but I don’t think it exists as of yet.In post 163, VFP wrote:Wtf, who votes a day 13 IC?
All we have to do is no lim every day, hope something assists in stopping kills and I'm actually confirmed as town or scum by that point.
I’ve played with Dunn quite a bitIn post 174, Lukewarm wrote:Based on?In post 172, Gamma Emerald wrote:Dunnstral kinda seems like scum
Also, have you played with them before?
Luke is townIn post 203, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Willing to vote UC, Kyoko, Ita, Luke today. Anybody else you or they will have to convince me
VOTE: uc[/v]
I can see this, something seems off about that last wallIn post 248, Lukewarm wrote:Literally every stance Kyouko has made feels off to me. Like they are hunting for excuses to scum read people (which scum do), instead of actually reading people (which townies do)
VOTE: Kyouko
That’s not what called for a response in that postIn post 254, Dunnstral wrote:I don't plan on needing a replacement...In post 238, Noraa wrote:my suggestion is to either yeet Andres or Dunn.
It seems stupid to be going and yeeting Ita, VFP, or Mon who are all known to be LHF.
Dunn wagon has a decent amount of resistance. Tbh im really uncertain on Dunn but I do think that if he doesn't start towning up, he maybe should die today because if he is scum and gets replaced, its very damn possible that I'll just let him go and the replacement will slip by for a long time and that's horrible. And Andres dipped off saying he was drunk and still hasn't come back. I have a specific reason why I think Andres is scum which, if he is scum and comes back to the thread, I think I can verify. If he doesn't come back, then he needs to be replaced. However, I do also hope he doesn't rep out cuz my tell won't necessarily work on someone else. I think that if both Dunn and Andres get replaced, we should yeet Andres because im more confident in that being scum(kinda) I dunno im just still very weirded out that I dont have a solid read on Dunn at this point. Normally, like 3 posts in, I should already know exactly what alignment he is!!!!
Voting somewhere else without unvoting still counts IMOIn post 278, ItalianoVD wrote:How did you take him not talking to you about your VFP vote? Also you said there were unvotes when there was one and now it’s been established that it was a joke? What were you seeing?In post 265, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can see this, something seems off about that last wall
Sometimes he is, but when he is it doesn’t look like this IMOIn post 280, ItalianoVD wrote:What about town Dunnstral? From what I remember he was pretty lurky as town as well.In post 176, Gamma Emerald wrote:scumStral has a trend of being lurky.
It does seem different tonally, but why is it indicative of coaching?In post 284, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Anyone else get the feeling this last round of postings from italiano are different somehow? Tone feels completely changed, like he's received coaching. Just woke up and read through it on my phone.
Okay, I don’t have any objection to this thought process.In post 306, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I feel like a person posts how they post and if that changes it can be an indicator that the words are being put in their mouth. It also feels like he was waiting for someone else to vote me first, which I dont think has anything to do with the coaching, but also seems scummyIn post 300, Gamma Emerald wrote:It does seem different tonally, but why is it indicative of coaching?In post 284, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Anyone else get the feeling this last round of postings from italiano are different somehow? Tone feels completely changed, like he's received coaching. Just woke up and read through it on my phone.
I had a thought process to my choiceIn post 315, Dunnstral wrote:Is there a reason this game has devolved into voting for only low content slots? Does that mean we think everybody who is talking is town?
I reread the Kyouko/Luke interaction somewhat and this resembles my current thoughts on itIn post 258, Noraa wrote:Lukewarm and ssb tbh feels TvT but I also SR both of them a little bit. I will go ahead and just mark it TvT and call it a day.
I believe Dunnstral should have at least some genuine effort present if he’s lurky town, or at the very least display a specific behavioral patternIn post 344, ItalianoVD wrote:Look like what? Can you show me what difference you’re seeing?In post 299, Gamma Emerald wrote:Sometimes he is, but when he is it doesn’t look like this IMO
I don’t feel any different about it with the fact it was a follow-up response to a joke claim. My premise was that the wagon not being larger was due to scum stepping off, and honestly I’d put greater suspicion on an unvote that uses a joke claim as its basis.In post 343, ItalianoVD wrote:Of course it does. I’m saying there were not multiple unvotes as you stated in 61. It may seem small but it’s important that information like that is accurate so as not to paint the wrong picture overall.In post 298, Gamma Emerald wrote:Voting somewhere else without unvoting still counts IMO
As for “it was a joke”, I don’t get how that matters to me
I’m asking if you feel differently about the unvote now that it was shown to be a joke to match VFP’s joke claim? And you didn’t answer my first question.
In post 345, ItalianoVD wrote:I hate this post on a lot of levels.In post 291, JohnnyFarrar wrote:In a hypothetical situation where Italy WAS coached, Andres could be that coach. And he's still not in thread. So like.
VOTE: Andres
Not specifically for that, but just. Yknow. In general.
Why are you specifically contrasting these posts?In post 346, ItalianoVD wrote:In contrast this is a good post.In post 301, RLotus wrote:Very strange. Looks like he is grasping for a reason to switch his vote.In post 291, JohnnyFarrar wrote:In a hypothetical situation where Italy WAS coached, Andres could be that coach. And he's still not in thread. So like.
VOTE: Andres
Not specifically for that, but just. Yknow. In general.
Also what happened to this ahaha?In post 203, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Willing to vote UC, Kyoko, Ita, Luke today. Anybody else you or they will have to convince me
VOTE: uc[/v]
It ain't that serious lol. Not like I'm out for your head, but it would really help me if you give a bit more than the last times I played with you. I realized that's a bit hypocritical coming from me at this very moment. I'm just not tryna lose a third time in a row to scum!you.In post 192, Dunnstral wrote:rtlotus pretty much said the same thing but dressed up nicer, right above where he says he needs to policy elim me because he can't read me
Why’d you choose to post this? This is personal curiosity here, I have issue with knowing when to ask questions IRL.In post 352, ItalianoVD wrote:If you wanna know more about this just ask me, don’t assume.
I look forward to your readsIn post 358, MaxTheFox wrote:Not much to solve yet IMO. I'll make a reads list tomorrow (it's late where I live) but I'll say one thing: that post smells town to me.In post 272, Lukewarm wrote:In post 270, MaxTheFox wrote:Any reasons?In post 206, Lukewarm wrote:
These are not ordered inside the tiers, but my current thoughts on the player list
You have not posted anything that makes me feel like you are solving. Only posted content was to TR the most widely TRed player.
Made multiple posts about Kyouko.
RLotus's post 179 caused a gut reaction scum read, and that is all he has posted so far, so there he is
I think we should vote anyone who lurks after a few more pages so more posts come in.
Can you expand on this?In post 361, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Actual scumtell right here.In post 342, ItalianoVD wrote:Yeah apparently we’re partners and you coached me to start posting “differently”. I think it’s more of an insult that if I was scum I’d need coaching.In post 296, Andresvmb wrote:And hahaha the thought that I would say I can’t get on to play but would have the time to coach someone is nothing short of laughable. I don’t have to lie about my activity to win a game as Scum.
In post 370, VFP wrote:There's scum is Lukewarm, Nora, IVD, and Johny.
Okay. Can you say more about this? It’s a pretty general statement.
Actually, now that I consider it, our thinking possibly did differ. I think Kyouko didn’t place as much suspicion on VFP as I did, if any. That’s the logical explanation for why Kyouko acted differently.In post 405, ItalianoVD wrote:Fixed it.
Okay I see what you what you were thinking now.In post 382, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t feel any different about it with the fact it was a follow-up response to a joke claim. My premise was that the wagon not being larger was due to scum stepping off, and honestly I’d put greater suspicion on an unvote that uses a joke claim as its basis.
I don't think it was entirely the same, maybe the initial perception of the wagon was, but the response to it wasn't. You voted for VFP thinking he was scum and his partner was distancing. Kyouko voted for one of the VFP voters thinking they were scum jumping on a town wagon? Obviously I'm biased because he's voting me, but you and Johnny were voting VFP and yet he voted for me under the premise that he didn't like the voters. I could actually see and understand your reasoning and response. Kyouko to me doesn't make sense.In post 382, Gamma Emerald wrote:As for Kyouko not interacting on that point, from what I saw we had practically the same thinking about VFP. If our thought slightly differed I’d have expected interaction, but any interaction in this case would have basically been echoing each other’s thoughts.
What does this even meanIn post 632, Andresvmb wrote:I think Gamma is Town. I see some of that some style posting I’ve seen before, some contrasting to play they’ve observed in the past, and some good observations. Don’t SR it at present.
Ah. I see it now.In post 642, Andresvmb wrote:I don’t know my summary came all convoluted but I wanted to make the point that you’ve given me good vibes. I guess you could summarize it that way.
That is what happened upon me, as well.In post 701, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Luke was pointing right at kyouko most of the day yesterday, that's an obvious nightkill for kyouko scum
YesIn post 744, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Gamma is it true that part of your role is Cop enabler?
Yeah, this is exactly why FMFT’s blind trust of me was concerning.In post 749, MaxTheFox wrote:Cop enabler seems like a good role to put on a mafioso to reduce swing. But that's not hard evidence for Gamma being scum because that might be what the mod wants us to think.
I'd like people who SR me to explain why if it's not a gut read.