Mini Normal 2223 | Town Wins!

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VOTE: MaxTheFox

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I should be looking after my godchild but I am posting instead.

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Hydra with your godchild

Far too young to do that with. I want them to think most people are good when they grow up.

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VOTE: Titus

Serial killer hero solve.

Nope. I will win with my mason buddies again, just you watch.

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To be fair, you didn't throw. Almost everyone else did.

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The kid was cuter

All the kids are mine.

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VOTE: looker

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Life is getting complicated. I'll try to be here.

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We can't say

lynch

; it's forbidden.

Also, Titus and ssbm_Kyouko are dating. Congrats!

My boyfriend is going to find this awkward.

I keep telling him I have to spend time with my godchild.

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Hi I'm a miller

Would you happen to be...Informed?

informed of DN

What is DN?

Oh no.

I'm not sure what DN is but why do I feel a sinking feeling shit's going sideways?

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But yeah it feels like RVS is going on a bit too long.

Agreed.

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Hi elo buddy!

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Catching up tomorrow.

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Catching up now.

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Titus I need some

hot opinions

My AC is great in my living room but bad in my bedroom.

Will hopefully do when caught up.

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Weird bc I've been doing more discussion than you have. Sounds like youre your own obstacle to getting into discussion and you're projecting that onto me

Also what you claim isnt proof that is my intent nor does your analysis look at intent. Happy to dunk you if you keep this up.

What discussion have you been doing until page 10? Most of your posts up to that point were, as I said, question-dodges. What town intent could this possibly have? But honestly it's early and I'm not locking onto you yet. Do better.

Reads:

TOWN BIN

MaxTheFox - I'm town.
Salsabil - good tone and trying to solve the game early = town in my eyes.

TOWN LEAN

Saudade - at first I didn't like their tone but I don't really see scum being likely to be so nonchalant, if that's the right word.
Manatee - gut read. Trust me on this.
Not_Mafia - yes he is a troll but at the same time it looks like he's actually contributing and trying to solve. Unlike the other Miltank avatar in the game...

NULL

Everyone else, expect another list later in day 1 when there is more content.

SCUM LEAN

omo - trolled in an useless way, dodged questions, picked up the slack in the last page which is why I'm not binning them as scum,
DGB (Looker) - another gut read. I'll let DGB post before voting them though.

SCUM BIN

Nobody yet.

Not scumreading this but I'm shocked someone could get opinions at this point. I'd say town for getting things going.

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At bottom of page 11. Kyko and manatee likely town.

I'm not sure if Rodan is scum. Leaning against it.

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VOTE: Roden

i think ur getting way too defensive considering the people calling u out r not even full on saying ur wolfy

Is this "caught for the wrong reasons?"

That's the question.

Like DGB as town. Mindmeld.

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Side note but I'd rather avoid the song and dance of taking me to E-1 to get me to claim. I'm telling you now that it's a waste of time and that I don't really want to bother defending myself for the next few days over literally nothing. So if y'all want me to claim now just say the word.

The fuck??

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VOTE: ManateeDude

So you're saying you're not paying attention and just sheeping the first player to make a detailed scum read? And your own justification for voting me is that I'm "defensive"? You might as well be scum claiming tbh.

Why does your tone sound different than the last time we played together?

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Votecount:

• omo (4): MaxTheFox, Salsabil Faria, DrippingGoofball, Saudade
  Roden (4): ssbm_Kyouko, omo, Dwlee99, ManateeDude
  DrippingGoofball (2): marcistar, Titus
  Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
  Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia
  ManateeDude (1): Roden

Spoiler: Votes Since Last Votecount

VOTE: dwlee99
why'd you sheepe me bro

Also, VOTE: owo - she's pocketing Not_Mafia, and her and marcistar are being cliquey. Fight the power. End the oppressive regime.

Everything up to 172 is RVS, but in no way does it try to get out of RVS

Hi I'm a miller

Would you happen to be...Informed?

informed of DN

What is DN?

Oh no.

I'm not sure what DN is but why do I feel a sinking feeling shit's going sideways?

A Death Neighborizer!?

Deez Nuts

But yeah it feels like RVS is going on a bit too long.

I think scum's getting restless with RVS and is waiting for someone to make a move they can pounce on

general consensus seems to be a dislike of their entry which i think is pretty nai

translation: stop wagoning my partner for wrong reasons

Hero solve: Max + Manatee + Marci

How serious is this?

Here there is a believable attempt to start solving, but since then, feels like a good amount has happened that Roden could be commenting on, especially given they feel RVS is going on too long

general consensus seems to be a dislike of their entry which i think is pretty nai

translation: stop wagoning my partner for wrong reasons

Hero solve: Max + Manatee + Marci

How serious is this?

Didn't get an answer to this.

But instead of continuing to look for solving info they're making a busy post.

VOTE: Roden

The way Marci reacted to me pushing on them feels towny in retrospect, I was just a bit taken aback at the time when they were not suspicious of me which made me feel like there was TMI at play but at the end of the day scum leans towards actually questioning people who are FoSing them.

I'll sheep you for now kyouko VOTE: Roden

VOTE: omo

VOTE: Rodent
Kyo town?

I am masons with your mum

UNVOTE: Not_Mafia

VOTE: Not_Mafia

UNVOTE: Not_Mafia

He's the only one who is actually trying to play the game.

Scum!Not_Mafia is usually happy to troll.

I'm down for town reading Kyouko, if only because her reasoning for scum reading me is so bad I don't think scum would try it.

do u usually play like this..?

Like what? Her accusation is completely unreasonable. Let alone hypocritical since she hasn't commented on everything either.

i dont think its unreasonable, you seem a bit held back this game
do you usually play so go-with-the-flow held back type of style?

I've literally never played a game with you before? What are you talking about here?

And haven't you just been memeing all game and brushing off every accusation toward you?

VOTE: Marcistar

VOTE: Roden

i think ur getting way too defensive considering the people calling u out r not even full on saying ur wolfy

VOTE: ManateeDude

So you're saying you're not paying attention and just sheeping the first player to make a detailed scum read? And your own justification for voting me is that I'm "defensive"? You might as well be scum claiming tbh.

I want to see what owo is about. I townread most players on both wagons but I want to look at Dwlee more based on the votes.

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to be fair there hasn't been a single obvtown in this game so far and that's a bit worrying

I like this as town.

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i think owo would be town..? i dont see anything wrong with them

Agree both can be town.

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Welcome to the townread special.

You get a townread. You get a townread. Everyone gets a townread.

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saudade talk to me abt titus vote

If day ends right this moment and i have to pick a target itd be titus

Does scum!Titus usually play the way she has this game i.e. low key with sparse posts? Last mini normal she played as a "too good to be true" townie and won.

My posting depends on real life. After that, I prioritize deadline games and elo games. D1 RVS stage I hate, so it's my lowest priority.

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I'm giving myself 3 days to read Titus.

Welp. Looks like I am going to hammer you in elo again.

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I am having trouble reading people so I'm sheeping my mason buddy.
VOTE: Titus

Not a single reason on anyone?

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[Saudade, ssbm, max]
[Roden, Salsa, N_M]
[geraint, marci, goofball] null
[Titus, Dwlee]
[owo]

so this is out there

These aren't horrible. Geratim down (lack of posting), owo up to lean town. Roden to null. NM down to null. Salsa to high town. Marci to lean town.

It's fair but wrong to have me as nullscum at this point.

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Titus/Geraintm/???

You're nothibg but a child flailing right now.

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Are fake guilties really such a common thing?

Not common but not unheard of.

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No, I caught Titus. That's very town-indicative.

Good luck with this push "mason".

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So you will meta N_M but not Dwlee? Why is that?

This is a good question.

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VOTE: Dwlee

Omgus haha.

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Different how?

Don't ask me to quantify a tone read. I can't.

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To pull a T3,

I don't think T3 is ever living that down. Poor guy.

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I dont think lynching the weakest players d1 in every game you play is how you're going to win games boys

Actually, that's the new site meta and it works out pretty well.

Second, why were you voting LHF (which I was at the time) if you were not looking for the weakest player?

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D1 ends in two days, we need to consolidate here.

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Not now that I'm actually playing. Now you just are stuck in a baseless push. So my question is why?

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Why haven't you engaged any of my recent posts?

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Why would you even post that I dont believe that you believe for a second that you're one of the weaker players in here

Strength depends on more than just rumors. Lurkers aren't strong regardless of who owns the slot. You tried to capitalize on that and now you're stuck.

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What's your read on Kyo?

Town.

@Sausade, Then why don't you engage me if you think my posts are hollow or defective?

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Calling it now. Sausade and Dwlee are partners.

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Sausade, go cry your child's tears.

You're just saying Titus is bad over and over. I trust any adult to see through that.

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To pull a T3,

I don't think T3 is ever living that down. Poor guy.

What did I miss?

Refers to Deco I am assuming

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Just to be clear, at this stage of the game you honestly think that you're having a good town game so far and thus me suspecting you as scum IMMIDEADLY leads to me being scum? what kind of thought process is that

No. I think your vapid, empty, and opportunistic push makes you possible scum.

I don't know if I am having a good town game or not yet. That's results driven.

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Anyways you're unpleasant I imagine if I keep this up I'll just spam the thread to oblivion and then no one will understand what's what

Oh no I called you out and held you accountable. That makes me so unpleasant.

Tell it to the people in juvie.

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To pull a T3,

I don't think T3 is ever living that down. Poor guy.

What did I miss?

In a recently ended mini normal t3 claimed a guilty on his scum buddy while he was traitor. Promptly got nightkilled.

i was said buddy

Oh yeah I forgot about that

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this game is so grossly abrasive in some aspects i just want to completely flake out

Sorry if I'm a part of that.

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VOTE: Titus

Serial killer hero solve.

Why are you hunting 3P?

Serial killers are not allowed in Mini normals.

Welcome!

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What dad joke?

When does a joke become a dad joke?

Spoiler:

When it becomes apparent.

Hahaha.

I'm still the Godmother.

I detest all the dad jokes. He walked out and left me with these kids. Mom left too. Just me.

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FTR I'm never trusting Titus' MB read ever again.

Fair enough, at least for awhile.

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Why is Titus' go to insult this game to call people children?

Because I'm bragging about how old I am and the responsibilities I carry, duh.

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I want to see the VC. I don't feel confident enough to push anything through.

Right now, I think Rodan is the youngest child. Math inherited the "meanest" child slot.

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I am the fairy Godmother. You're all children. Some just more lovable than others but I'm not supposed to say that part out loud. Someone broke my precious vase and you’re all blaming each other.

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I'll just claim here given deadline. I'm a babysitter. Hence the child talk. It was crumbs.

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Limited access today and tomorrow but I still will check in.

Interview (possibly) today and DnD tomorrow.

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Don't feel great about a Marci lim but will do to get it off.

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Interview reset.

Still VLA this weekend.

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Marci can you do a reads list? Claim (if you haven't)

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Don't feel great about a Marci lim but will do to get it off.

Scum ping +1

Slsa bil 3
Dwlee 1
Titus 1 (though I expect your claim means you will get solved sooner or later)

Don't care if I give a scum ping. I don't have the time, knowledge or confidence to push a wagon I'd get excited about by the deadline.

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Homie how do you have scum pings on me and not on Marci/Manatee/Math/Roden?

Why me, fry me

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Oh shit wait, just thought of something.

@DGB:

There was a Miller claim this game. You were notably so against the idea of a Miller existing in the last game we played that it extended into you ranting about set up metas even into the post game. Why hasn't the Miller claim caught your attention this time? I'd think you would hone in on that. No this isn't a gotcha attempt but considering how differently you've been playing this game in general, it's notable here.

To be fair, it was an "informed miller".

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VOTE: DGB

TRing everyone on this wagon.

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VOTE: Roden

Why?

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DGB, I am sympathetic. I have three problems that caused me to vote you.

One, I am in the same position which makes the lead wagon appetizing.

Two, the deadline means someone must compromise. Why not the person with real life issues?

Three, I townread everyone on your wagon. Why fight my townreads when I don't have a better suspect and don't have the time to make one?

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Hey Titus you saw what I saw I think yeah?

And yes this is vague and no I won’t say more than that.

If no then okay maybe go look later.

Nope.

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I'm in the shop waiting on my car to be done. Can you tell me what page(s) to look on?

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Wrong but fair and can’t elaborate.

I gotta go probably won’t be on for the rest of the day because I gotta figure out roomie bday present 2.0.

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I babysat ManateeDude last night. Got work. Will try to post tonight.

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Plus town points for Math not killing me btw.

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@Titus, why did you choose to babysit Manatee? What was the thought process?

Manatee was a widely suspected slot. I wanted it to be alive to correct the beliefs about themselves or worst case he'd die and it would be dispelled. The protect was about the day play. I knew the risk and did it anyway.

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@Titus, why did you choose to babysit Manatee? What was the thought process?

Manatee was a widely suspected slot. I wanted it to be alive to correct the beliefs about themselves or worst case he'd die and it would be dispelled. The protect was about the day play. I knew the risk and did it anyway.

i know the dude can be offputting but im a she. im assuming you missed my FN soft?

No. I saw it. I apologize for the pronoun error.

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@Titus, why did you choose to babysit Manatee? What was the thought process?

Manatee was a widely suspected slot. I wanted it to be alive to correct the beliefs about themselves or worst case he'd die and it would be dispelled. The protect was about the day play. I knew the risk and did it anyway.

i know the dude can be offputting but im a she. im assuming you missed my FN soft?

No. I saw it. I apologize for the pronoun error.

When did you Titus?

After you pointed it out

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No. My first reply was Dancing with the Devil and Met Him Last Night. That indicated that I was taking a risk but going anyway.

Confident was that I was confident and I didn't care what others said.

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I saw the vote colors while I was driving. I can't remember who did it but thank you.

Also, I got a job from one of my bigger clients. I still need to keep it but it's great. It may effect my posting rate.

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conftown

voters that were on the end of day DGB wagon and are not confirmed

confscum

Left myself yellow for everyone's convenience

Votecount 1:

DrippingGoofball

(3):

marcistar

,

ManateeDude

,

Titus

Titus

(2):

Roden

,

ssbm_Kyouko

omo

(2):

MathBlade

, MaxTheFox

ssbm_Kyouko

(1): Dwlee99
Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
geraintm (1): Salsabil Faria
MaxTheFox (1):

omo

Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

Votecount 2:

DrippingGoofball

(4):

marcistar

,

ManateeDude

,

Titus

,

ssbm_Kyouko

omo

(2): MaxTheFox, Salsabil Faria
MaxTheFox (2):

MathBlade

, Dwlee99

Titus

(1);

Roden

Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

marcistar

(1):

omo

Votecount 3:

omo

(4): MaxTheFox, Salsabil Faria,

DrippingGoofball

,

MathBlade

Roden

(4):

ssbm_Kyouko

,

omo

, Dwlee99,

ManateeDude

DrippingGoofball

(2):

marcistar

,

Titus

Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

ManateeDude

(1):

Roden

Votecount 4:

Dwlee99 (4): Salsabil Faria,

ssbm_Kyouko

,

Titus

,

ManateeDude

ManateeDude

(2):

omo

, Dwlee99

omo

(2): MaxTheFox,

DrippingGoofball

DrippingGoofball

(1):

marcistar

Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

marcistar

(1):

Roden

Votecount 5:

marcistar

(5):

Roden

,

ssbm_Kyouko

, Salsabil Faria,

omo

,

DrippingGoofball

omo

(3): MaxTheFox,

ManateeDude

,

MathBlade

ManateeDude

(1): Dwlee99
Dwlee99 (1):

Titus

DrippingGoofball

(1):

marcistar

Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

Votecount 6:

marcistar

(4):

Roden

,

ssbm_Kyouko

, Salsabil Faria,

omo

,

MathBlade

(MathBlade added to the Marci wagon in this VC quote because they voted Marci shortly afterward and were on the wagon at its height)

omo

(2): MaxTheFox,

MathBlade

ManateeDude

(1): Dwlee99
Dwlee99 (1):

Titus

DrippingGoofball

(1):

marcistar

Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm

Votecount 7:

DrippingGoofball

(4):

marcistar

,

ssbm_Kyouko

,

ManateeDude

,

Roden

Salsabil Faria (2): geraintm, Salsabil Fariua

marcistar

(1):

MathBlade

omo

(1): MaxTheFox

ManateeDude

(1): Dwlee99
Dwlee99 (1):

Titus

Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

Roden

(1):

DrippingGoofball

Votecount 8:

DrippingGoofball

(7):

marcistar

,

ssbm_Kyouko

,

ManateeDude

,

Roden

,

Titus

,

MathBlade

,

omo

Roden

(2):

DrippingGoofball

, Dwlee99
Salsabil Faria (2): geraintm, Salsabil Faria

omo

(1): MaxTheFox
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

Key notes I take from this are that Titus and Marci were on DGB slot early in the day and that when Marci was a wagon, Titus was not on board. I think if there was a bus on D1, it was in omo/MathBlade. Titus was also on the dwlee wagon, and although this is pre-flip, I do think this points further toward town!Titus. MathBlade's reason to vote DGB was "Ditto" that of Titus'. Titus states she TRs everyone on the wagon. This is in line with her play throughout the day. MathBlade, however, was on the Marcistar wagon so I'm going to look back at how he got off of that wagon, because he did pile on to the Marci wagon late and with little reasoning iirc.

I'm locking Marci and Titus for now. Killing Roden could be trying to frame dwlee. Max, geraintm, Salsabil, and Not_Mafia all have weak voting histories D1 and should be inspected toMorrow at the latest. And the points against omo/dwlee/DGB voting patterns still stand.

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On VC1-3 I like Dwelee as scum. Mari and Ssbm as town.

Based on VC 1-3, I find no scum on the Dwlee wagon on count 4.

1-5 Maricstar omo dynamic is interesting. Marci might be a wagon to save owo.

Math or Omo likely scum. Leaning owo.

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VOTE: Dwlee

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This town has already proven accurate though.

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I think Titus, Marci, Manatee, Me is the block, and omo/mathblade are like auxiliary to the block.

Does anyone in the block listed (not the auxiliary) disagree with the block?

I'm okish with this block. I don't like owo in it.

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The fact we still don’t have a cohesive town block despite getting scum d1 is troubling.

We do. Just some people are objecting to it.

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I'd put Max in the townblock based on the composition of the wagon on him.

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Titus do you actually believe pre-flip VCA works?

It's not as confident as VCA day 3 with a scumflip but I do believe we get somewhere with a scumflip. We get theories to test and premises to work on beyond town fucked up.

Why do you think the DGB wagon went through?

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this has the feel of disgruntled end of day townie to me.

Just have the feeling that owo and mathblade are different alignment's (i don't think the last two votes on a wagon would both be scum, that just feels off to me. scum would have let it stall more)

reading the two different sets of posts, i just have mathblade as the one who feels more likely to be scum.

I agree with the sentiments in this post but not the conclusion.

I feel owo was disgruntled at having to hammer a partner. The tone is right but the reason is wrong.

Mathblade's vote was suggesting that I protect someone (that's why the WWF ad). The fact that scum didn't shoot me gives Math townpoints for speaking in a semi-unique manner. It's not strong bc wifom.

Based on the VCs and my reading of Math as town and owo's tone, I feel owo is the scum desperate to having a scum on the wagon.

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In fact,

VOTE: owo

Feel more confident here than Dwlee atm.

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Why do you think the DGB wagon went through?

You're just asking me to be snarky

Go ahead. I dgaf.

[Titus]

Then join me on owo please.

[Titus]

DGB wagon went through because 7 people voted it.

Why did the DGB wagon get 7 votes?

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DGB wagon went through because 7 people voted it.

Why did the DGB wagon get 7 votes?

I don't think we have enough info right now to figure out who bussed who didn't etc. and I think any attempt to "find scum on the wagon" or anything else is making a flawed assumption that there has to be scum on it. Inversely, finding scum off the wagon assumes there are any, I don't think this is necessarily true. Play will be a much better indicator than day 2 VCA.

Based on DGB's play, do you think any votes were busses?

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Not particularly. DGB's interactions with people are very standard.

What do you mean by fairly standard?

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Nothing seems alignment indicative for the people it is responding to. It's just one liners to people in reaction to their posts.

You really get nothing about the agenda it attempts to pursue by ISOing them?

What about ISOing them with the mod?

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What about Looker?

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I'm vetoing Salsa.

Why

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@Math, You want a case? I'll present you an unbeatable case on omo and Dwlee99.

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omo and Dwlee99

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looking at mathblades votes from yesterday

early vote for owo
then maxthefox
then back to owo
then no vote
then owo again
then marcistar
then DGB at the end of the day

OWO

1st max
then marcistar
then roden (known town)
then manatee (town)
back to marcistar
then no vote
then the DGB hammer

so...OWO has the more known votes on townies during the day

but boh look hyper all day.

So you're telling me that omo spent all day voting town and disgruntledly hammered DGB. Cmon man.

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In fact,

VOTE: owo

Feel more confident here than Dwlee atm.

@T3