This is impeccable evidence. But I still reserve my vote for now. Like someone else.
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I counter claim your counterclaim. we have 2 counterclaims so far. That's a lot of evidence!In post 17, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I CCIn post 14, Porkens wrote:Hey I haven’t played in a while. Checking in as vanilla town
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I wouldn't worry too much about that, especially right now. You don't have to agree with everything they say to Town read someone. In the long run, good Town blocs are great.In post 76, Porkens wrote:I don’t know if it’s all that great. What if you are town reading scum, don’t you risk spreading that misconception to others? What if scum uses it as a way to plant town seeds on their members?
Pedit I didn't care for that vote either. Didn't sound RVSy, and I guess we're supposed to guess why?-
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I misread this the first time. My mind replaced post with vote.In post 78, MalcolmTucker wrote:I don't particularly like that post either. It feels like it's intending to be solvey by putting a sort of grand, almost conspiratorial idea out there but it's also not saying much at the same time. I feel like I have a tendency to scumread Galron a lot early game though - maybe a style thing, but will keep an eye on their play.
I didn't care for the vote, you were saying you didn't like Galron's post. I don't think this changes anythinmg for me though.-
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I don't know any history here, but what makes someone speculating about their "nightmare scum team" scum?In post 92, geraintm wrote:What exactly about my vote did you not like?
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By the end of the game (whether alive or dead) I'll bet I do close to a hundred ISOs, double and triple ISOs. Sometimes, like right above your post, I'll blow it's meaning.In post 84, Porkens wrote:Serious question: do you all read and understand everyone else’s posts? Or do you just sort of skim and go with feelings?
Gut. That which is harder to explain plays into my reads too.
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Can you explain this a little better? Are you saying that you're almost always the hammer?? Thoughts of N_M floating in my mind.In post 102, Porkens wrote:Sometimes I can pick the scum perfectly t the start of the game but then talk myself out of it by the end. Other games I’m dead convinced I know the scum and am just totally wrong sometimes it’s super obvious but I still can’t see it. The worst is when unfortunately I last until end game and hammer wrong. I’m a chronic hammerer but I’m trying to be better. And when I’m scum I almost always get caught.-
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I feel so forgotten! lolIn post 130, Salsabil Faria wrote:Recently NJAC, Kitty and I completed a newbie game (Newbie-2100) where scum!Kitty was playing dumb townie and NJAC caught him for that.
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I must admit, I was thinking you might be a wolf.In post 230, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I think mainly everyone wolf reads me?In post 227, MalcolmTucker wrote:In post 187, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Alright, who has yet to wolf read the almighty Townie Drapion?
Don't like these posts. Feels like it's just an attempt to shade the scumreads being made without actually really refuting them at all, instead the goal appears to be an attempt to link together players who suspect Drapion as possible scum.In post 188, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Let me sit nice in the PoE as I bring down wolves into it and get them out.
Just trying to say I don’t really care about it tbh.
@ Crescent In Normal 240, post 150, you said Geraintm couldn't last the whole game as scum. He made it though. Any advice gleaned from that game on how to read him would be great.-
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I wondered if this was an attempt at a dumbtell. I'll have to go find it, but he did one earlier in the game too.In post 237, Shiidaji wrote:Scum theater trying to act out a townslip by pretending to not know player count and a fixation on partner number? Earnest, short-term memory town confused yet again? Inquiring minds want to know! If you have played with Prof before feel free to weigh in.-
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@ Galron The tl:dr is gut.
Before 2100 had started, I read 2 of her games. In one of them she was scum. Then after 2100, I think I have a good feel for her playstyle. But as Salsabil can attest to, I can be wrong. By the end of the last Night, I started to scum read her based on POE.
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Sorry if I missed this, I wanted to see how you felt about his response. A shared history kind of thing.In post 162, NJAC wrote:What's your next question?-
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@ Salsabil I was reading Professor's ISO when I came across this post. Why do you think a red flip on the Professor would clear Porkens?In post 170, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
Sounds like someone’s setting up back to back Ml’s.In post 156, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 153, MalcolmTucker wrote:Porkens is probably town based on their posting so far. I can see scum occasionally opting for an "I'm clueless" type approach but they'd be overdoing it if scum here.IfProfessorflips scum then it'll clearPorkensimo, but ifProfessoris town andPorkenswill continue to play like this then I think it’s not impossible to play dumb townie as scum for them.-
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Personally I don't like these kinds of posts. You want to hearIn post 327, MalcolmTucker wrote:Kitty is another player who like Wayward Son I'd like to see more from going forward and if PD isn't scum they're a candidate for a possible opportunistic vote. Relatively quiet so far and PD is a relatively obvious target at the moment where the reasoning sort of presents itself.morefrom me? Do you have any questions?-
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I know I touched on this earlier with Geraint, and in the one post where I misunderstood your point. What is wrong with expressing a nightmare scenario? You say you don't like it, can you express why?In post 326, MalcolmTucker wrote:The fact I didn't realise it was random is why I thought it was a good point - I didn't like the post from Galron and was simply agreeing with you.-
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Do you feel Galron will flip scum? Why? How would that clear me?In post 324, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Do you think Galron clears Wayward upon wolf flip?-
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It's all you've been doing. Of course you've said Crescent is your only Town read, but you seem to only suss those who've sussed you. I don't like the way you keep saying your (misslim) makes sense, but then only (hunting) from within it.In post 262, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Lol
Don’t read anyone who votes against me for anything, I'm an obvious town ML here my flip doesn’t mean Jack shit.
But here’s what you do need to look at, see if anyone 180’s on me during my last moments or says “actually he could be town”
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QFTIn post 350, Porkens wrote:
“HAY EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS OTHER PERSON PLEASE”In post 334, Wayward Son wrote:Question to everyone, I see Porkens talking about how bad he is and throwing shade at the idea of Town blocs. His only game relevant post is his "gut" vote. Is it only Professor's defense of him that makes him Town?-
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Without quotes, can you summarize your scum read on NJAC? Something quick?In post 406, ProfessorDrapion wrote:NJAC and Wayward.-
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In post 408, Porkens wrote:I really think wayward is scum. Plz ISO and confirm.
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Umm, what did you mean to imply here? I'm really curious.In post 218, Galron wrote:LEt's see where it goes. I get the impression Drapion is a gunslinger so I'll give some room.-
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I was trying to go backwards in the thread to parse this post. Maybe you can help?In post 226, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Also as I said threadstate is Malcolm/NJAC would be wolves based on their treatment.
Salsa trying to imply I’m sharing Malcolm and ask where I wolf read them is lol.
I was comparing it to if they are a wolf.
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Just that little spat we had. After reading their ISO, I doubt they're scum.In post 418, Salsabil Faria wrote:Why Malcolm? I find them townie tbh.-
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He claimed a backup Doctor, I don't see a cc coming. It sounds to me like an easy thing to fake claim.In post 420, Salsabil Faria wrote:Conftown: Professor (as no cc yet)-
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Your posts were well written and easy to understand. You didn't sound devious, and compared to others' posts, you seemed an angel. Not everyone can be scum.In post 438, Crescent wrote:Question though: Why did you townlean me in the first place? I've been pretty close to inactive.
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You never formed an opinion of Professor after all this? How could anyone who's scum hunting miss the claim?In post 451, geraintm wrote:i cant remember having any opinion on them-
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He's putting in more effort here than when he was scum in 2100. I wouldn't want to vote there Today.In post 469, Shiidaji wrote:@Wayward do you maybe TR Kitty?-
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I think it's a good question. Am I to understand you Town lean Porkens? Why?In post 489, Crescent wrote:Then 334 comes, and... This question doesn't seem to flow properly at all. He's calling Drapion and Porkens scum together, and he's already more or less doubled down on Porkens. The question is phrased as to have no good answer. Why would Drapion defending him make him town in the first place? This is made even more awkward by the fact that he's also openly claiming to scumread Drapion.-
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I remember reading a game where Kitty had a PR, in that game he was more relevant and posted more. I don't remember which game it was though, maybe Kitty remembers.In post 492, Crescent wrote:...Kind of just a wash for me.
It seems he's trying in this game. He is a hard read.
pedit "And it's not a good question. Drapion defending Porkens early on shouldn't have any influence of whether someone town reads or scum reads Porkens now. The fact that you're calling them scum together already means you can attack almost any potential answer to the question, hence it having no "good" answer." Greeting actually did this very thing in 2100 with Kitty. I still see it as possible.-
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Beside that "spat", what should I be reading you scum from? Our earlier misunderstanding? No. I'm thinking you're Town.In post 461, MalcolmTucker wrote:This caught my eye as a bit of an odd post - I believe Wayward TR'd me early on, they then hint I could be scum, but quickly back away from the possibility once they're asked to provide reasoning for it.-
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You may be Town, but this post doesn't mean much. I still think your solve is all wrong.In post 506, ProfessorDrapion wrote:See I always go by “actions speak louder then words”
IDRC how wolfy someone posts or how Townie someone posts cause 9/10 times it’s NAI.
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Posts like these. I didn't see how a Townie missed the claim. When he misunderstood and thought a post was about him. Mainly these things.In post 453, geraintm wrote:
does it matter if you dont think anyone else is going to join me?In post 435, NJAC wrote:@geraintm I think your case on Malcolm is going nowhere, who else are you considering to vote?-
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This part? Sounds like an interpretation of the events. It's wrong.In post 489, Crescent wrote:This is what sticks out to me.. He's calls them scum together, and tacks on a vote onto Drapion's wagon. He then directly shades Porkens in an awkward manner, while never actually giving an argument to call him scum, just unhelpful (which is something I also just called him, but unhelpful doesn't always mean scum), and rather blatantly OMGUSing. The way he phrases the question in #329 implies a [i[strong[/i] scum read because it seems to dissociate Porkens being town as even being possible.
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Just to be clear, I think Galron can be scum, KittyIn post 533, Wayward Son wrote:At least one. I'd never swear Kitty was Town.maybe.-
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