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What does this second part even mean?In post 8, Abnegation wrote: i think i've played with a few of you.
observation: the presence or absence of scum multitasking is not noted anywhere in the original modposts. i wonder if that means we're up against all goons?-
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I agree something seems off about it like TMI but maybe I'm not understanding something and someone else can explain-
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I see. Is that something specific you look for every game?In post 11, Abnegation wrote:
well, usually the mod would tell us whether or not the mafia can multitask by default (commit the kill and use whatever abilities they have in the same night). when i skimmed the rules post, i noticed that the mod didn't actually make a ruling on this. i'm speculating that maybe the reason for the oversight is that the mafia don't have any abilities to use, and therefore it doesn't matter if they can multitask or not.In post 9, Hu Tao wrote:
What does this second part even mean?In post 8, Abnegation wrote: i think i've played with a few of you.
observation: the presence or absence of scum multitasking is not noted anywhere in the original modposts. i wonder if that means we're up against all goons?
in that vein,@mod - is multitasking enabled by default?-
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That was my original thoughtIn post 19, camelCasedSnivy wrote: what if abnegation is scum and looked to see if she could multitask in the first place-
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I've only played a few games but that post seems out of the regular from what I've seenIn post 21, davesaz wrote: Hi Klazam, didn't know you also play mafia.
I'll use +1 this time and VOTE: BlackStar.
Having been away a year or two I don't know if focusing on the presence/lack of things in the mod's posts is currently normal in a normal.-
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I disagree on it being towny because he said it. Cause it seems hard to just automatically notice that's missing. Maybe I'm paranoid though.In post 25, Klazam wrote: Alright I looked at some other games’ rules posts, I’m new to that particular thing, wasn’t a thing when I played here awhile ago.
Because it appears to be a thing here on site (I did see a couple that didn’t mention the multitasking whatsoever). That particular piece of setup spec makes more sense to me so gonna
UNVOTE: Abnegation
I think it would be weird for scum to make the particular comment that he did with the above in mind, so Ima sliiight lean town on abneg.
I doubt that we could rely on the absence of multitasking in the rules to tell us anything though.
Back on you my vote goes
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More so, knew about it and posting it to seem towny was my point. Scum would know if they could multitask or not I assumeIn post 26, Klazam wrote:
Making a public post on it as scum, with daytalk? I’m not so sure about thatIn post 22, Hu Tao wrote:
That was my original thoughtIn post 19, camelCasedSnivy wrote: what if abnegation is scum and looked to see if she could multitask in the first place-
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Yep exactlyIn post 28, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
towncred exists and abnegation was speculating that the mafia could be only goonsIn post 26, Klazam wrote:
Making a public post on it as scum, with daytalk? I’m not so sure about thatIn post 22, Hu Tao wrote:
That was my original thoughtIn post 19, camelCasedSnivy wrote: what if abnegation is scum and looked to see if she could multitask in the first place-
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Suspicious post. I think it's too early for thatIn post 32, camelCasedSnivy wrote: most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation-
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I think I've played with you before once, then again there are a lot of cats on this site so maybe notIn post 46, KittyTacky wrote: Meow! Been a small while since I've played. I actually don't remember most of this list.
VOTE: geraintm-
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Why do I need to vote? It's 2 or 3 pages in, of course I'm trying to find things I find suspicious.In post 49, davesaz wrote:
You've said a couple things are suspicious. What will be your threshold for a vote?In post 42, Hu Tao wrote:
Suspicious post. I think it's too early for thatIn post 32, camelCasedSnivy wrote: most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation-
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How so?In post 57, Flavor Leaf wrote: ah, damn, Drew's scum here-
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Thank you for showing me how to vote, I'm glad someone gave me such valuable informationIn post 65, Klazam wrote:
The fuck you doing.In post 58, Abnegation wrote:
let's add some more then!In post 56, Doctor Drew wrote: I know I should unvote, but I like some pressure on Anaconda.
VOTE: abnegation
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Why do I need to vote? It's 2 or 3 pages in, of course I'm trying to find things I find suspicious.davesaz wrote:
You've said a couple things are suspicious. What will be your threshold for a vote?In post 42, Hu Tao wrote:
Suspicious post. I think it's too early for thatIn post 32, camelCasedSnivy wrote: most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation
I actually am agreeing with Dave here- your vote is your most powerful tool. Poking at things verbally with no action behind it makes seems like you’re trying to play it safe.
Here’s how to use your vote.
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Weird since most people don't like the way I play in the beginning and find it standoffish at first. But thanks!In post 67, SzmarzLeek wrote: I like Hu Tao, pushing the game forward, saying openly what they don't like instead of fluffposting-
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It would be Ab currently and I've made that pretty clear. I don't think I have to vote someone to do that.In post 88, Klazam wrote:
Know what, I can get behind this. Been feeling the same, and seeing that cCS been going for low hanging fruit.In post 83, davesaz wrote: Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
Still want hu tao to actually take a stance. If you had to vote someone, who would you vote and why?-
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Reason?In post 91, Flavor Leaf wrote: Lol Dave is scum-
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this is so funny it makes me wanna townread it for it being so blunt and simpleIn post 92, geraintm wrote:
They fulfilled thr criteria to be votedIn post 87, BlackStar wrote:In post 83, davesaz wrote: Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
What’s the reasoning for these votes?In post 85, geraintm wrote:
VOTE: scorpiusIn post 81, Abnegation wrote:
i wasn't here ten years ago but my old games do make me cringe lol.In post 80, Scorpious wrote: Anyone ever read games they wrote ten years ago?
Was everyone cringe or just me?-
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Because I don't want to. What are you going to do? Vote me for not voting?In post 100, Klazam wrote: So why aren’t you voting Abneg?-
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Why?In post 104, Doctor Drew wrote:
Can't remember the last time I say stay in background and snipe Flavor LeafIn post 91, Flavor Leaf wrote: Lol Dave is scum
Can I borrow your scum checklist for a couple minutes?In post 92, geraintm wrote:
They fulfilled thr criteria to be votedIn post 87, BlackStar wrote:In post 83, davesaz wrote: Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
What’s the reasoning for these votes?In post 85, geraintm wrote:
VOTE: scorpiusIn post 81, Abnegation wrote:
i wasn't here ten years ago but my old games do make me cringe lol.In post 80, Scorpious wrote: Anyone ever read games they wrote ten years ago?
Was everyone cringe or just me?
But why are so many people getting their boxers in a twist over needing a reason for a vote or a read?
Makes me think people are getting a bit worried, if you pick up what I am putting down.
Also, getting pinged town by Hu Tao.-
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Making a big deal out of not voting someone is not productive especially this early, especially when people are giving reasons regardless. A vote at this point is usually for show.In post 108, davesaz wrote: What would you suggest using to generate reads, if not votes and talk about votes or the lack thereof?-
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I thought your hydra town read me in utopia though?In post 110, Doctor Drew wrote:
Oh jeez you too lol?
But honestly I feel a vibe from you I didn't get from Utopia.-
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Okay. I'm mostly concerned about people trying to pocket that way. I caught a scum that way before.In post 116, Doctor Drew wrote:
Well I did.In post 112, Hu Tao wrote:
I thought your hydra town read me in utopia though?In post 110, Doctor Drew wrote:
Oh jeez you too lol?
But honestly I feel a vibe from you I didn't get from Utopia.
And uh.....remember you did end up being scum.
So if I think you are different here........??-
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Yes, I've had someone say that I seem town for flimsy reasons based on a previous game and they were scum.In post 120, Doctor Drew wrote:
From people town reading you off of play from a previous game?In post 118, Hu Tao wrote:
Okay. I'm mostly concerned about people trying to pocket that way. I caught a scum that way before.In post 116, Doctor Drew wrote:
Well I did.In post 112, Hu Tao wrote:
I thought your hydra town read me in utopia though?In post 110, Doctor Drew wrote:
Oh jeez you too lol?
But honestly I feel a vibe from you I didn't get from Utopia.
And uh.....remember you did end up being scum.
So if I think you are different here........??-
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Sorry I like replying to everything-
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I actually like cCS's response. In terms of the self vote, I think it's usually NAI and depends on the personIn post 128, Klazam wrote: I like Hu Tao’s response to my pressure.
cCS, I like less.
I know it’s literally been a day since we started but I’m surprised people are not reacting to abnegation’s self vote.
That’s my thoughts right now. See y’all later tonight or tomorrow-
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AgreedIn post 129, SzmarzLeek wrote: how does one react to someone's self-vote
isn't self-vote kinda a NAI fluff?-
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VOTE: Klazam
I think they backed off after seeing people townread me and it didn't seem natural in the first place.-
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Me tooIn post 145, Abnegation wrote:
i will have to disagree with you on that.In post 142, BlackStar wrote:
I think it's scum indicativeIn post 140, Abnegation wrote:
what are you trying to do with the vote? do you actually find that scum-indicative or is it more of a pressure vote to try to get them to do something?In post 139, BlackStar wrote: It just seems like all of their posts are joking around instead of trying to do something-
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So your analysis is that FL posting is either Town, scum or NAI? Groundbreaking.. this post feels like filler. And your reason for your possible scumlean is basically what klazam saidIn post 162, davesaz wrote: I can think of at least three ways for Flavor Leaf to be this way, one each town, scum, and NAI. The town and NAI ones shouldn't be discussed and can't be discussed respectively.
Reserved FL isn't something I see too often, though as I mentioned before it's been quite a while. If I had to guess I'd say it's the NAI version.
Hu and Klaz feel like they're solving, and townleans. If I had to pick one of them to be a scumlean it would be Hu but that's primarily driven by a feeling that voting is the main way of generating conflict to get reads from, which makes me biased against not voting.
I don't see the purpose for Abnegation to still be self voting. It's still the first 1/4 of day so being on the sidelines isn't urgent yet, but it isn't doing anything to advance the game and that's troubling.-
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Why is klaz and camel town?In post 168, KittyTacky wrote: I think camel is town.
Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.
Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.
Klaz also town imo.-
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How?In post 170, Abnegation wrote: actually that might be a townslip.-
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Oh that makes sense actuallyIn post 174, Abnegation wrote:it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.
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Also trueIn post 176, Doctor Drew wrote:
Meh that seems like a stretch, they also could have just made up the town read and forgot they actually posted said read.In post 175, Abnegation wrote:
i feel like i'm not explaining this very well but i can't think how to explain it better.In post 174, Abnegation wrote:it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.
I am watching you Aspartame.-
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And your choice was NAI which means it could be eitherIn post 186, davesaz wrote:
That's a surface level interpretation. Saying "it could be one of these things" and then clearly choosing one of them is hardly filler.In post 171, Hu Tao wrote:
So your analysis is that FL posting is either Town, scum or NAI? Groundbreaking.. this post feels like filler.-
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This game does seem slow-
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Needs more flavorIn post 203, Flavor Leaf wrote: Are you saying it feels a little bland and needs some more ______-
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How do you know they are town?In post 222, camelCasedSnivy wrote: ugh do yall really trust klazam
dont see a reason we should go leaf over klazam if youre that willing to wagon a townie-
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The more you speak the more I want to vote youIn post 223, camelCasedSnivy wrote: if anyone wants to start a wagon on dave or any of the inactive slots ill join-
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I like you alreadyIn post 236, Ame wrote:
This post is super scummy?In post 25, Klazam wrote: Alright I looked at some other games’ rules posts, I’m new to that particular thing, wasn’t a thing when I played here awhile ago.
Because it appears to be a thing here on site (I did see a couple that didn’t mention the multitasking whatsoever). That particular piece of setup spec makes more sense to me so gonna
UNVOTE: Abnegation
I think it would be weird for scum to make the particular comment that he did with the above in mind, so Ima sliiight lean town on abneg.
I doubt that we could rely on the absence of multitasking in the rules to tell us anything though.
Back on you my vote goes
VOTE: davesaz
VOTE: Klazam-
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I can vibe with this. I think camel's last few posts were sus though.In post 244, Ame wrote: Hu Tao
camelCasedSnivy
SzmarzLeek
Flavor Leaf
Abnegation
BlackStar
Doctor Drew
KittyTacky
Klazam
geraintm
Arko
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I see you've seen the light but I still think klazam is scummy. Maybe that will changeIn post 267, Ame wrote: I like Klazam's case. It seems like the sort of thought process that stems from townynoia - like, the idea that the behavior of another player is a reaction to your own towny actions. Blackstar displays this in his case too. I'm not quite sold against cCS but the post-hoc addition of #264 above does ring me. Like the need to display a consistency in his voting progression. This sort of self-consciousness I think more comes from maf. Actually, I've convinced myself while writing this. The Klaz/Hu vote thing is such a stale reason to still be voting Klaz, especially after Klaz updated on his motivations behind the push and what he got from it. I actually think cCS is probably a hit.
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I could see drew scum looking back. That flavor vote was kinda bad-
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Then why not converse with someone? Sounds like an excuseIn post 325, KittyTacky wrote: I'm trying to be active. But in slow games I am usually quiet because my playstyle is reactive more than active.-
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Welcome!In post 331, Nono wrote: checking in, read/catch up coming soon)-
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Finally something excitingIn post 334, Nono wrote: took long break and flaked out long ago,, almost can’t remember how to play kek
scummy,, it’s weird-towny!In post 42, Hu Tao wrote:
Suspicious post. I think it's too early for thatIn post 32, camelCasedSnivy wrote: most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation
caught shade?!In post 53, Hu Tao wrote:
Why do I need to vote? It's 2 or 3 pages in, of course I'm trying to find things I find suspicious.In post 49, davesaz wrote:
You've said a couple things are suspicious. What will be your threshold for a vote?In post 42, Hu Tao wrote:
Suspicious post. I think it's too early for thatIn post 32, camelCasedSnivy wrote: most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegationIn post 9, Hu Tao wrote:
What does this second part even mean?In post 8, Abnegation wrote: i think i've played with a few of you.
observation: the presence or absence of scum multitasking is not noted anywhere in the original modposts. i wonder if that means we're up against all goons?
omg xDIn post 12, Hu Tao wrote: I agree something seems off about it like TMI but maybe I'm not understanding something and someone else can explain
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I think ab and camel are suspicious. What are your thoughts on them?In post 337, KittyTacky wrote:
Alright.In post 332, Hu Tao wrote:
Then why not converse with someone? Sounds like an excuseIn post 325, KittyTacky wrote: I'm trying to be active. But in slow games I am usually quiet because my playstyle is reactive more than active.
What are your reads? Aside from Klazam being scummy.-
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Oh that's a good pointIn post 352, Flavor Leaf wrote: Gut ping on the Abnegation unvote right after Leek mentioned a possible Drew/Leaf pairing because I earlier mentioned a possible Abneg/Drew pairing-
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I'm sure they've seen it but just disagree. Usually I'm good with when people have a wrong read to be able to see if it makes sense and is genuine, but this just seems very forced.In post 366, Nono wrote: reading rest,, liking klazam, agreeing with points,, obvtown, at least for me
supports theory hu tao has bad intentions, shrug
other “obvscum” players, case, ab,, seems like scummy town,, but i have bias xD
liking kitty for this, rest a blurIn post 168, KittyTacky wrote: I think camel is town.
Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.
Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.
Klaz also town imo.
ty for welcome xD VOTE: wolftaoIn post 333, Hu Tao wrote:
Welcome!In post 331, Nono wrote: checking in, read/catch up coming soon)
y’all not seeing this??? quoted to clarify,, still happy to parkIn post 133, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Klazam
I think they backed off after seeing people townread me and it didn't seem natural in the first place.
v/la always,ping me/tag me/w/e,, kthxbaii-
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Nono's posts have just been saying that I'm scum. If you agree wouldn't you be saying I was scum? Don't think I've seen you say thatIn post 376, davesaz wrote: I like Nono's new posts.
KittyTacky said some things that resonated, in particular about how it's a fallacy that only scum care how they look. Not enough for a real townread, will need to see some evidence of trying to sort.
Geraintm took a poke or two but didn't really follow up that I can tell. I'd be willing to go there.
I'm not sure about Leek's motivation in asking about the list in the first place. It seems kinda weak to go after unproductive people. Not enough for a scumread, but definitely worth watching.-
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In post 398, camelCasedSnivy wrote: Suspicious post. I think its too early for that.-
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Disagree. The posts they are saying I'm scum for don't make sense. I've seen scum strategies where they scumread the towniest person and everyone thinks they are town that's misled. Getting vibes of that here.In post 408, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
ope exactly what i said lmaoIn post 405, Ame wrote:
why is that nulltown?In post 401, camelCasedSnivy wrote: arko ok
arko didnt really do anything and nono is just voting hu tao
its weird that theyre really only focusing on hu tao and not acknowledging anyone else so nulltown
tunnels arent alignment indicative (unless some other piece influences it)
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In post 417, davesaz wrote:
Like and agree are different things to me. And as I say a few posts later, it was in comparison to what the slot had done before that so maybe premature to even say I like it lolIn post 406, Hu Tao wrote:
Nono's posts have just been saying that I'm scum. If you agree wouldn't you be saying I was scum? Don't think I've seen you say thatIn post 376, davesaz wrote: I like Nono's new posts.
KittyTacky said some things that resonated, in particular about how it's a fallacy that only scum care how they look. Not enough for a real townread, will need to see some evidence of trying to sort.
Geraintm took a poke or two but didn't really follow up that I can tell. I'd be willing to go there.
I'm not sure about Leek's motivation in asking about the list in the first place. It seems kinda weak to go after unproductive people. Not enough for a scumread, but definitely worth watching.-
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What has Dave done?In post 426, KittyTacky wrote: Dave I am safe locktowning imo.
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I don't get the scumread people have on youIn post 504, Ame wrote: You can go me to 3-3 it up-
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I think ccs could be scum but I don't think that's a sus post. Seems honestIn post 506, Ame wrote:
This is so suss. There’s a 77.52% chance cCS is a mafIn post 503, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
i dont like this VC but since ame literally just voted me i cant bring any wagon but myself to 3 soIn post 497, Random Nurse wrote: Klazam (2): Hu Tao, Ame
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, Klazam
Ame (2): geraintm, Doctor Drew
Flavor Leaf (1): Flavor Leaf
SzmarzLeek (1): KittyTacky
Kitty Tacky (1): SzmarzLeek
Doctor Drew (1): Blackstar
Hu Tao (1): Nono
BlackStar (1): camelCasedSnivy
Not voting (1): Abnegation-
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VOTE: Kitty
Think I'll go here for now-
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In post 539, BlackStar wrote: UNVOTE:
I feel like my opinions about everyone are flip-flopping like crazy from page to page. I'm already second-guessing everything lol.
Drew doesn't seem as scummy as I originally thought. Pretty much the only person who I haven't felt at least a little suspicious of so far is Hu Tao-
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Flavor I'm not used to you being so passive. And it's worrying me. Maybe I'm overthinking-
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