Mini Normal 2310 | Day 7

[Ame]

What/who is enchant?

[Flavor Leaf]

Sometimes Enchant is just scum.

[Hu Tao]

Drew/Daves/cCS/nono are still the flips I want to see. I wouldn't go Daves today because of Kitty locktowning him. nono being a bugspray archetype changes things -- from scummy to eternal coin flip. I'm not sure there's a reliable way to read them. cCS is the most "this is a hit" feel.

Uh. I'd rather nono out of those 3 if you're removing Dave. I'm flipping back and forth with ccs

cCS is almost a guaranteed hit (up from 77 to 79%). I'll vote with you though.

I'll mull it over. We still have time

[Ame]

Sometimes Enchant is just scum.

Is it like if it looks like a duck?

[Flavor Leaf]

But if anything, Ame’s shown they don’t care to work with the town, they care to get their way.

I'm not sure where you got this impression considering I'm willing to vote with Hu. Is there a reason you don't want cCS to die?

What’s the CCS case?

[Ame]

Sleeping now, but I'll tryToCase Snivy later

[Hu Tao]

I'm fine with leek going today too BTW. I don't think I've seen any reason to town read them.

[Flavor Leaf]

They’re just kind of all over the place, and it looks like they were doing the most to make something happen, and kind of outwardly, and I think that is lean town for sure.

My guts been pretty good with Snivy bar a mech finish/soft guilty, and even then I had to fight against the feeling, which would have been correct. This is a supplementary reason for me to town read Snivy, cuz that’s how I use meta.

I just find their actions not very scummy this game, and the fact they’re taking actual action in this slow ish game is definitely net positive. I feel scum have been sitting back and trying to let something happen.

I don’t necessarily agree with the Klazam read they were pushing, but I’m not willing to die on Klazam town either. I was neutral for most of Snivy’s push on Klazam.

I had a town ping on Klazam in one of their last posts, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm fine with leek going today too BTW. I don't think I've seen any reason to town read them.

I have seen a few things here and there that did town ping me.

My thing with you that’s messing with me, is that I have a tendency to town read Scum Tao, and scum read TownTao. So I’ll keep my eye on you, but I am town reading you, so

[Hu Tao]

I'm fine with leek going today too BTW. I don't think I've seen any reason to town read them.

I have seen a few things here and there that did town ping me.

My thing with you that’s messing with me, is that I have a tendency to town read Scum Tao, and scum read TownTao. So I’ll keep my eye on you, but I am town reading you, so

Tbf I think last game you townread the person I replaced more than me.

[SzmarzLeek]

haha what do I wake up to

pages of slanders

FlavorLeaf's bold push on me is probably towny, you have to determine yourself guys if he's such a good scum that he pushes townies so openly

but in my experience scum is less likely to do that, you guys know FL's meta better. though

camel's quick hop on the wagon raises suspicions, but his Ame/Nono awkwardness was towny - scum doesn't do such weird, attention drawing stuff, they have things thought out


Hu Tao seems to be losing steam after good beginning (like opposite of me I guess) and joins this wagon in the most subtle way, but still not enough for a scumread from me, more like yellowread, also surprised they'd be wanting to lim me without first questioning me

anyway, I would never lim a decently active player like me d1, who keeps giving reads and thoughts on the regular, people who don't do much and give excuses like Kitty or are forgettable like geraintm are way better targets, if you don't handle such players early, then you wake up in Lim or Lose with ticking bombs

that's the quick thoughts about the situation I woke up to

[Hu Tao]

I've slowed my posting in general. I felt I was controlling the game, and I wanted to see how things played out without me as involved.

[Hu Tao]

I would say that I don't like you're just trying to push it to the inactives. Also how I'm suddenly a yellow read for you just by simply stating I'd be okay with you voted out.

[SzmarzLeek]

I see, but also you'll agree scum loses intensity the longer the game lasts

and nothing wrong if you're controlling the game a bit: you give the town a strong townread and it's harder for scum to manipulate town

[SzmarzLeek]

I would say that I don't like you're just trying to push it to the inactives. Also how I'm suddenly a yellow read for you just by simply stating I'd be okay with you voted out.

more like you haven't asked me anything before or didn't mention me

inactives are usually a decent d1 lim: it's hard to clear them and they don't provide much content

[Hu Tao]

Okay, what's your 2 biggest scumreads and town reads?

[SzmarzLeek]

hmm with townreads

Ame is very towny

second I'd go with Flavor now
- pushes me with arguments
- is stubbornly deaf to Ame's counterarguments regarding me
- seems to be more engaged the more the game lasts

with scumreads

I'd rather call them good d1 lims

Kitty - feels like he'd love to stay undisturbed in the background, managed to say he doesn't have time twice or thrice and mention his autism, feels like it's all "leave me alone" attitude not "I'll solve this riddle", not really giving deeper thoughts, when he says more, it's usually after being asked directly, not by his own incentive

[SzmarzLeek]

Second would be geraim: I feel their gamestyle doesn't revolve around getting more information, more around "whom I could get limmed", jumped on Camel when he was awkward in the thread (like "hopping on popular wagon vibes?") and then went to attack Ame for massclaim thing - not giving a second thought that I'd be a weird play for scum, but jumped on an opportunity to push someone into lim

[SzmarzLeek]

what about you Hu Tao, gimme the same

[Random Nurse]

VC 1.12

camelCasedSnivy (3):

davesaz, Klazam, Ame

Ame (2):

geraintm, Doctor Drew

SzmarzLeek (2):

KittyTacky, Flavor Leaf

Kitty Tacky (2):

SzmarzLeek, Hu Tao

Klazam (1):

camelCasedSnivy

Hu Tao (1):

Nono

Not voting (2):

Abnegation, Blackstar

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate someone. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-09-13 14:12:57).

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm fine with leek going today too BTW. I don't think I've seen any reason to town read them.

I have seen a few things here and there that did town ping me.

My thing with you that’s messing with me, is that I have a tendency to town read Scum Tao, and scum read TownTao. So I’ll keep my eye on you, but I am town reading you, so

Tbf I think last game you townread the person I replaced more than me.

This is a fair point, you are correct.

[Nono]

v/la 12 hours or so, sorry,, ty ty

[Nono]

v/la 12 hours or so, sorry,, ty ty

ebwop: @mod

[BlackStar]

The case that Flavor Leaf has posted about Leek sounds very convincing and plausible. But I’ve read Leek’s ISO a couple of times and I feel like most of his posts sound genuine. I don’t agree with his thought process on some stuff, but I’m not getting the vibe that Leek is trying to manipulate people.

[KittyTacky]

I've been skimming this game's logs lazily this day, I think I know enough to make a reads list, but tomorrow as it's late here, I'll sleep on my reads.