AI meaning literal artificial intelligenceIn post 2383, Doctor Drew wrote:I will say, it was basically said the message was created in chatgpt.....there even was a weird(not really important to the game though) typo that I could see from AIIn post 2376, Flavor Leaf wrote: who else here would talk like that in the message
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'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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I was super close to investigating Nono last night, just knew I would keep second guessing my read on Una and had traitor vibes from themIn post 2385, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Gamma and Hu Tao had a weird dynamic, and my Hu tao push got disrupted, and Nono came in giving a town read on Hu Tao. Yesterday, Nono tried to say we should leave Marci for later too.In post 1391, Hu Tao wrote: I can somewhat understand flavor thinking maybe I'm saving partner bulge in the event say I was traitor and he was scum pr. That's a possibility (still not a right play in my opinion but arguable). But with 2 days left it makes no sense for scum to save some random town at E-1 when the counter could go on a partner or self.
This is my solve right now. Nono/Hu Tao.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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There is 100% a traitor.In post 2391, UnaBombaH wrote: I still think Traitor isn't a given, I'm disappointed how D2 went, and I'm honestly not liking Drews claim.
Unless my townread on gera is wrong, I think there's still a good chance for scum in FL/HuTao.
Gonna need those two cups of coffee first
Also, you are disappointed that scum was limmed?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Maybe Hu is the traitor and that is the message to the other scum?
The mason claim I mean'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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I am not following, did I miss something with Bulge?In post 2487, Dannflor wrote: i think drew pretty obviously didn't play around marci / whatever is going on with the mail in a s/s way and the bulge trying to keep drew open feels bad to me'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I almost investigated you last night to see if you are the traitor, but for reasons you just described I chose to go off wagon(going into the game I kinda thought being able to fully clear one person would be ideal......kinda wish I stuck to that now).In post 2495, Dannflor wrote: i did not actually realize i was hammering marci and i'd like to think i'd be much more careful than that around a scum buddy for whatever that is worth'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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If I think someone has a decent chance to be scum, I will have trouble believing anything they say. But I felt a bit better as we got to the day end. So to somewhat ease my mind, or confirm my initial beliefs I chose you.In post 2499, Dannflor wrote: why did you pt check me to start with?
did you not believe my slip about not knowing about the pts day 1?
Interesting I almost chose Hu as well, that could have been interesting.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Also Dann, can you elaborate here?In post 2489, Doctor Drew wrote:
I am not following, did I miss something with Bulge?In post 2487, Dannflor wrote: i think drew pretty obviously didn't play around marci / whatever is going on with the mail in a s/s way and the bulge trying to keep drew open feels bad to me'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Why would scum buss in any scenario here?In post 2512, Nono wrote: fire!scum pushing town unah, dan!scum pushing town bulge,, scum can’t bus today because it confirms me and hu tao'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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So you are saying that you can't deduce someones alignment?In post 2515, UnaBombaH wrote: Ah, Morning folks.
Town Mailman here - who was surprised.
No modifiers, no shenanigans here - I'm just able to troll someone every night.
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God dammit Una lol.
Your claim is legit.
Doesn't exactly clear you though.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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How many scum do you think there are here?In post 2522, UnaBombaH wrote:
Of course it doesn't.In post 2520, Doctor Drew wrote: God dammit Una lol.
Your claim is legit.
Doesn't exactly clear you though.
We don't have anyone confirmed until we get another scumflip or one of the masons flipped.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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What is so weird to you about that? There also was the potential for multiples PT's(and if the mason claims are to be believed then there are currently three PT's, if Marci was still alive potentially even more). And makes sense that the PT Cop would be in one of the PT's and was only 1 shot on N1 since multiple uses and/or using it later in the game could have really muddied the waters.In post 2564, Flavor Leaf wrote: You know what.
Lazy Traitor Backup Mailman is a solid role for scum in this game because if Mailman were to die, then scum get to message their team, but only after. I just kind of like that as a mechanic, havent looked into FB to see if they'd be traitor.
Drew claims a Cop role in a game where Mafia have a Cop? I dont see it. I really don't.
Wasn't there some blowback post game of that Bianco normal where they had a lazy traitor?In post 2565, Flavor Leaf wrote:
lazy traitor?In post 103, JacksonVirgo wrote: Was gonna catch up, but today feels like a lazy day so ig not
Also if I am reading you correctly, you think Fire is the traitor right? Shouldn't we be aiming for actual scum?
Pre Edit: Una's claim still doesn't sit right with me, like the message specifically said that they could deduce my alignment....but then they just say it was all for lulz??'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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A tracker would have been nice for this night phase if don't nail scum here.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Are you suggesting scumFlavor?In post 2582, Firebringer wrote: you say a lot of different things at once'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Glad you brought up one thing I kept forgetting about, I made one post saying that worst case I could figure Marci out in our hood.....but quickly changed tunes.In post 2586, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, I dunked Marci as their partner tunneling them from Day 1 only to kill JJH and STILL go through pushing Marci when Drew, Fire, Hu Tao, and Nono were all trying to give them a pass to go on.
I’m giving scum a chance to take Dann and myself out by killing Dann. You need to warrant Dann being taken out on a misfade possibility and limit options, not go on a Mason.
I literally was in the process of figuring out the night actions that I was a target of.
You are acting like I wanted stear votes away from her.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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And I will give you that lol.In post 2592, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I was yelling at Marci to claim early in day 1,and yall were going “let it resolve let it resolve”In post 2590, Firebringer wrote: I just did iso of flavor, so i see her calling her scum but he never voted her until i started the end of day wagon
fuck letting things resolve, that lets scum go free
You can't really negotiate with a terrorist'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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You have TRIED to make me look bad in any way you can.In post 2596, UnaBombaH wrote: I can also see why town!Drew might have a personal reason to dislike my claim/action because they were a target of it, but I also think calling it scum is silly.
1) I clearly tried/wanted to use that action for something and got annoyed when Drew avoided engaging in the interactions and the day ended with the gambit/claim unresolved
2) I would've, for no actual reason, muddied the interaction between Drew and marci with the later wanting to do ~something with their claim/role.
Again, being a very sucky teammate.
3) I am willing to go through my whole logic with the message if need be, but it was literally worded and formatted with the idea of forcing scum!Drew into a situation where they'd need to ALONE decide whether to admit to getting the message or not. If I was a town!Unloyal_Mailman they'd be basically scum-claiming. That is also why I legit TRIED to get them to talk about the scenarios, to see if they had spent any time thinking about the potential variations before hand.. And IMO they clearly hadn't.
1)What was I supposed to engage with? I initially thought marci was the mail man and was trying to figure all that out, then realized that the mail man was someone else. What interactions was I supposed to be engaged in besides that? Who was I avoiding?
2)You are really hammering this home, and I do get it if you are town why would get a bit defensive(I can see myself acting in this way as town). But can't you see that when marci says she can confirm herself, and then I get a message saying that my alignment can be deduced, and then marci says she is confirmed town now, how that may all be related?
3)And this is just driving home my point that your goal is to try to make me look bad. Mail Man isn't a role I have ever played with or heard of, and I have played a million games of mafia. I wasn't worried about variants or different versions of it, just what the fuck the mail man is and how it is maybe or maybe not tied into marci......especially when you worded the message to make it seem like your were an investigative sort of role, and I even said it really seems like the mail man was the loyal one and not marci. I talked my way through it, both what the fuck marci was doing and what the fuck the mail man was all about.
So yes, please enlighten us with your logic behind your message to me and how it helped town and didn't muddy the waters.
Because you have been going out of your way to muddy the waters since then.
Pre Edit: What did I agree with FB about?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Coffee great, you shut your mouth.In post 2602, Firebringer wrote: you agreed with me that coffee is gross.
Can you respond to my post please, or at least after you had your coffeeIn post 2603, UnaBombaH wrote: I mean, Drew might've just claimed close to their scumrole? Maybe informed that there are masons?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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The Aliiance is to the death.....we took a blood oath!In post 2606, Firebringer wrote:
alliance is overIn post 2605, Doctor Drew wrote: Coffee great, you shut your mouth.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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You didn't claim until today, so you were willing to claim as the mail man yesterday?In post 2608, UnaBombaH wrote: Drew just takes my actions as discrediting and attacking. When I'm actually trying to discuss and solve their alignment.
Also, I agree I ended up muddying the interactions a bit when it turned out that marci either targeted or gambitted with Drew on the same night, but my honest intentions were to solve around your slot based on dayplay and reactions anyway. Meaning that I was willing to claim no modifiers D2 already, but it ended way too soon for me.
And yes you are doing everything you can to discredit me.
You said I should have tried to solve the mail man's intentions. I said as much I thought they were the loyal one, since you basically said as much in the message.
But how would I not know it wasn't marci as the mail man until I asked her point blank?
How was I supposed to interact with the mail man when I didn't know who it was?
Like what was I supposed to be except confused?
Pre Edit: If I know there is a traitor, then I know it isn't a fools game to try to find them'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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This definitely isn't the slam duck you think it is.In post 2619, UnaBombaH wrote:
Fking YATZYIn post 2615, Flavor Leaf wrote: Riddle me this
Why does a Traitor Finder need to be Informed that there is a Traitor in the game?
You wanted to engage with me, so let's engage with my posts I have made.
And Flavor, again, what is weird about being a PT Cop(you never responded to the post I made asking about that).
And what is weird about being a traitor finder when being informed of the presence of a traitor? Scum obviously know their is a traitor and presumably have a way of finding them, why wouldn't town be informed of it as well and also have a way of finding them?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Lol, Slam Duck is NBA Jam username'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Remember when you voted Gamma here as well......that was, that was cool.In post 2617, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Dannflor has a scum and 2 claimed masons on them. Bulge and Geraint are leftover.In post 1886, Alisae wrote:VOTECOUNT1.25ELIMINATIONVOTESPLAYERNAMECURRENTVOTESDannflor (5)The Bulge, Nono, geraintm, Hu Tao, marcistarmarcistar (3)Firebringer, Gamma Emerald, RodenGamma Emerald (3)Doctor Drew, jjh927, Flavor LeafHu Tao (1)UnaBombaHRoden (1)DannflorNOT VOTING:With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to flip!
Deadline: (expired on 2023-10-20 19:33:00)if you see any errors in votecounts let me know!Notes:
Fire is V/LA until 10/21
Marcistar wagon has 2 flipped townies + FB. I also was on Marci for a second. If FB is town, that is an all town wagon, meaning it’s likely scum are split on the other 2 trying to make them happen instead of letting Marci pick more steam.
Drew and Jjh on Gamma, Jjh flipped town.
VCA points towards Bulge and Drew
I fail to see your point here?
Gamma was scummy with their interaction with marci, so I voted there.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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You are right, I wasn't in a hood with her since we limmed her lol.In post 2624, Flavor Leaf wrote: PT Cop, as town, where there’s a traitor and a Scum Neighborizer, means you can really only get one guilty with that.
I think you are probably a Role Cop Lazy Traitor or something like that.
The way Marci did the whole thing does look like it was meant to clear you. The mailman made it awkward, but i don’t think you were really in a Neighborhood with Marci.
And yes, I am N1 PT Cop......the one night that marci couldn't muddy the waters some more with her hooding ability. I literally can only get one guilty, or one 'clear'
Same goes for N2 with the traitor finder.
Pre Edit: Oh come on Flavor, it clearly looked like Una was trying to protect you there, especially when they said they can't trust you......how is it bad that I was pointing out their contradiction?
I wasn't even trying to solve you there(unless you obv town on D1 I won't try), it was more about Una there.
This is why I said to Gera in our hood, when I thought I was gonna die last night, that I am weary about you.
This isn't the townFlavor I know......but you will steam roll me either way.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Double traitor? Wut?In post 2629, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 152, marcistar wrote:
Drew x jacksonIn post 149, Doctor Drew wrote:
Ahhh! I am the ultimate jackass of all time.In post 103, JacksonVirgo wrote: Was gonna catch up, but today feels like a lazy day so ig not
2 posts!!!
I won't let this happen againIn post 155, marcistar wrote:
Wtf stop stealing my op reads these are an original one of a kind masterpieceIn post 153, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, it’s Drew and Jackson
In a world where it’s reverse, and we have double Traitor, then this is indicative of Fire/Drew.
I do think it’s worth going Drew to find out what happened.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Yes you tunneled Gamma, like I did.In post 2625, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 302, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hu Tao, Jjh, Roden, Una are townie for for me.
Gamma is lean, Geraint is lean. I feel good with Geraint, but really too early for me to fully trust that
Oh my god. 4 of 6 confirmed town reads correct. Una and Geraint I think are right too.
Unfortunate i tunneled Gamma. I did want Marci, though
Why did you jump onto Gamma D1 again?
Pre Edit: Yes it would seem like one too many vanilla claims......
But ya, lets lim the one complex role claim......and let's coordinate an attack on said player.
But don't worry, we won't make sense while discrediting said player.....or respond to them even though all three people are online at the same time.
Nope, not gonna happen.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Smelly Tracker Fruit is my porn name.In post 2633, UnaBombaH wrote: Tbh, when I saw my role, I was expecting multiple Mailmen of both alignments, fruit being vendored all over the place with sticky blocker fruits and smelly tracker fruits and a town!MillerMayor with an InformedTraitorDoctor and..
Are you compulsive? Do you have to deliver a message every night?
Pre Edit: Be careful with that word, Flavor might call you a Lazy Traitor lol'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Also hol up....
Flavor using VCA??
Nah this ain't it.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Just to ping you.In post 1157, Firebringer wrote: guys i think there might be a cop in the mafia this game.
call it a crazy hunch
Why is Flavor town?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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I haven't seen itIn post 2638, Flavor Leaf wrote: I am one of the most notable players on site to use VCA and have since i started playing.
dunno what you’re getting at with that'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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In fact the only game I saw it(just checked because you have me thinking)In post 2639, Doctor Drew wrote:
I haven't seen itIn post 2638, Flavor Leaf wrote: I am one of the most notable players on site to use VCA and have since i started playing.
dunno what you’re getting at with that
Was Pokemon.
Never saw you post the VC for VCA like you did here in any game we have had, except in Pokemon.
Never seen you as scum(at least in recent memory)........except in..
Wait for it....
Pokemon'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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I am just gonna do the damn thing
VOTE: Flavor'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Wait what? Did I miss something?In post 2641, Flavor Leaf wrote: I apologize for using mainly They/Them pronouns instead of players’ preferred pronouns. This was something I was unaware of— I will do better at rectifying that, and will always do my best to be a better ally.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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In a vacuumIn post 2644, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Well, I mimic my town game as scum soIn post 2640, Doctor Drew wrote:
In fact the only game I saw it(just checked because you have me thinking)In post 2639, Doctor Drew wrote:
I haven't seen itIn post 2638, Flavor Leaf wrote: I am one of the most notable players on site to use VCA and have since i started playing.
dunno what you’re getting at with that
Was Pokemon.
Never saw you post the VC for VCA like you did here in any game we have had, except in Pokemon.
Never seen you as scum(at least in recent memory)........except in..
Wait for it....
Pokemon
I can probably link 10+ times I’ve used VCA pretty easily, but not gonna search on mobile, so if you want links you’ll wait til tomorrow
Why should I believe you are town here?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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You know how you we seem to find each other as town, sometimes it is easy, sometimes is isn't.In post 2645, Doctor Drew wrote:
In a vacuumIn post 2644, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Well, I mimic my town game as scum soIn post 2640, Doctor Drew wrote:
In fact the only game I saw it(just checked because you have me thinking)In post 2639, Doctor Drew wrote:
I haven't seen itIn post 2638, Flavor Leaf wrote: I am one of the most notable players on site to use VCA and have since i started playing.
dunno what you’re getting at with that
Was Pokemon.
Never saw you post the VC for VCA like you did here in any game we have had, except in Pokemon.
Never seen you as scum(at least in recent memory)........except in..
Wait for it....
Pokemon
I can probably link 10+ times I’ve used VCA pretty easily, but not gonna search on mobile, so if you want links you’ll wait til tomorrow
Why should I believe you are town here?
But you don't seem to want to find me as town
Pre Edit: I respect that, I find myself doing that probably too much as well
Pre Edit2: To clarify, I think you are deep wolfing, and pushing the person who both has the most recent experience with you and has claimed the most easy to twist claim'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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You haven't defended me, you said I am town on vibe.....and that's it.In post 2649, Flavor Leaf wrote: Why would I push you here instead of continuing my push on Firebringer?
I believe I had searched for town you almost all game, to the extent of defending you multiple times.
You only turn and push me any time I start to question my read on you
You have continually said how my claim doesn't make sense.....and have even made efforts to explain why my claim makes me scum.
Your thought process has been to make me scum, not make me town.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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What do you mean turn on you?In post 2651, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like Traitor Finder doesn’t need to be Informed of a Traitor being in the game, and while if you are town, you would know that it is in the game, but I feel like you should see why it can be seen as odd.
And the fact you start to turn on me with it when I push that is rough.
I have not had you lock town or anything.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Oh please, didn't think you would resort to AtEIn post 2653, Flavor Leaf wrote: Well, I am willing to die for my convictions here if the overall game thinks I’m not trustworthy here.
I standby I think scum are Doctor Drew and The Bulge with a side of Firebringer if I am wrong,
I don’t think I am wrong with DD/Bulge.
I asked why you wanted to push who you thought was traitor(Fire), instead of scum.....
You didn't respond.
So you can respond now'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Yes, when I thought marci was the mail manIn post 2656, Flavor Leaf wrote: Reread Page 78 and 79 and look at Geraints interactions with Marci. Not partnered.
Then look at Drew and Marci. Drew clearly said ‘got the message loud and clear’ and said ‘no nothing else’ then realized, and claimed neighborhood.
They gambited together, and then went after Geraint together.
How many times do I have to say that I thought that initially??'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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So then how am I partnered with Marci?
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I have played a bunch with him lately, every game he shows some similarities as town(most recent games he has been town with me), but there also some differences that make me question my town read.In post 2662, Firebringer wrote:
go read another game of flavor, id recommend his last scum game where he tunneled blackIn post 2637, Doctor Drew wrote:
Just to ping you.In post 1157, Firebringer wrote: guys i think there might be a cop in the mafia this game.
call it a crazy hunch
Why is Flavor town?
tell me if u think this is the same
Flavor is not someone dimensional in either alignment.
Plus he is doing the exact same thing Python did in a recent game with both Flavor and I. Trying to twist my role to fit his scum narrative(python was SK tbf) and discrediting every aspect of it likes it is impossible that my claim is actually truthful.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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*not someone one dimensional'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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You are leaving yourself out of the poe, you also are being way too trusting of basically every claim except mine(maybe you aren't trusting Fire).
Either you are just piggy backing off of Una's discrediting, or it is a coordinated attack(thought you do may a valid point it would be weird if una/Marci are buddies).
Fire's defense of you is weird as well, I could imagine you saying you want to vote Fire as posturing.
Also, why Bulge?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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I spent hours trying to tailor my fake claim in Boons Ahoy so it made the most sense.
You don't think I would give myself a reason to visit people every night and not just N1 and N2?
And I would have to guess correctly that Dann isn't in a PT, that is a scum claim if he refuted it,(by me i mean).
And unless I know specifically Una is the traitor, why would I say he isn't(again, if I was fake claiming).
And why would I even claim to be informed if I was a traitor finder as scum, I do see what you mean there though.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Ok Lim me, town is in a good spot anyways despite you being wrong here and not just accepting the most simple solution
Pre Edit:. Frustrating to me when I know that all leads to a bad solve on me though.
I will vote Bulge if it is down to me and me.
I feel Insm probably taking my frustrations out on you s bit(and maybe from that other game a few weeks ago as well lol)'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Are you talking about my interactions with Marci on d2?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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I also would prefer not Bulge, but my point wasIn post 2679, Nono wrote:
just came into thread, saw this: noIn post 2676, Doctor Drew wrote: Ok Lim me, town is in a good spot anyways despite you being wrong here and not just accepting the most simple solution
Pre Edit:. Frustrating to me when I know that all leads to a bad solve on me though.
I will vote Bulge if it is down to me and me.
I feel Insm probably taking my frustrations out on you s bit(and maybe from that other game a few weeks ago as well lol)
few hours please, ty ty
If it is between us two, I only know that I am town.
This game is gonna bug me since every angle I try to look at things still has Flavor in the middle of it all(meaning in every reasonable combo of scum/traitor).
Personally, if forgetting about Flavor, I don't buy the the masons claims but I think I get why there would be masons given me being a PT Cop and being able to only use it once on N1, as I have said.....so begrudgingly would leave them alone for today.
I am curious on more thoughts from Fire and Dann though.
And Fire to respond to my post about Flavor.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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I wish I could say I was scum.In post 2682, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m also willing to lose to Drew scum I think on the caveat I get to say I told you so if they end up being scum and yall fell for that Informed of Traitor/Traitor finder
But it can't be bulge AND the masons.
There wouldn't be 3 group scum right?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Well imagine a world where I have been truthfulIn post 2686, Flavor Leaf wrote:
No, if it is the masons, it’s just the masons.In post 2685, Doctor Drew wrote:
I wish I could say I was scum.In post 2682, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m also willing to lose to Drew scum I think on the caveat I get to say I told you so if they end up being scum and yall fell for that Informed of Traitor/Traitor finder
But it can't be bulge AND the masons.
There wouldn't be 3 group scum right?
My Drew-Bulge solve is with the masons being implied town.
But there were legitimate ties between the two of them, but it made sense to me as masons when they claimed it.
I wonder if it was a Hail Mary since the game was solved on them.
My issue with it is I like Loyal Babysitter and Masons together on a game design, and I don’t really like Town PT Cop with Masons.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Meh, looking over when they claimed....and I even iso'ed them both, is hard for me to believe that they as group scum and traitor came together that early. I kinda believe them now.In post 2690, Flavor Leaf wrote: Someone look over how masons claimed i don’t feel like doing it
I’m about to give up tbh'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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I am talking myself into a Dann vote'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Though it is funny seeing 5 people with one vote lol'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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VOTE: Bulge
Ok, will sheep'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Also Flavor, as and aside, if you have issues with my role and how it pertains to the setup of the game, I am sure Ali is all ears post game lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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I am on Bulge!In post 2732, Flavor Leaf wrote: VOTE: Flavor Leaf
I’m done with this game.
Flip me, and follow my solve. Or don’t and I’ll do an i told you so after.
Either way, works for me.
Leaf out
What are you doing?
If you think it can be Dann, there is more support behind that wagon as well'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Calm down lolIn post 2744, UnaBombaH wrote:
I dislike this comment on a personal level. It might sound like I am / some of us are criticizing the setup during the game, but I always admit in the end that I have no expertice in the matter. It's all just speculating and hot air based on personal likes/dislikes, own perspective on whats "balanced" and most of all NOT HAVING ALL THE INFORMATION until the game is finished.In post 2726, Doctor Drew wrote: Also Flavor, as and aside, if you have issues with my role and how it pertains to the setup of the game, I am sure Ali is all ears post game lol.
There's a reason why this site has a wiki and stuff like "normal games" defined and outlined. If I personally sometimes disagree with balance or the setup making sense, it's always me in the end admitting that I just don't know.
So yeah. I'm always willing and interested in discussing balance, but I'd never want the mods to think that I'm criticizing or bashing their setup.
I am stating that my claim is true, an any issue with it will be discussed with Ali postgame........but I am sure my role will make sense at the end of the day.
Like Flavor said, Ali knows how to balance a game'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Can confirm.In post 2760, geraintm wrote:
if it is any help, i posted in the hood that i strongly read Flavour as town because of their commitment on getting marci elimianted. i wrote that on OCt 24thIn post 2758, Dannflor wrote:@FLbe straight up with me
are you frustrated people aren't clearing you more for pushing marci
I do think we just Lim between Bulge/Fire.
I am kinda getting Flavors frustration, but more about today just going in circles. I feel like everyone has said what they need to say and we should just end it.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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VOTE: Nono
Ok, I will indulge you here'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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I was willing to go Bulge'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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