Mini Normal 2314 - The Mafia Have a Cop [END]

[Flavor Leaf]

And cool thing about this, this game doesn’t need to be solved today.

All I’ve asked essentially all day, by way of play, is Fire and Geraint live, not that hard, yet you seem to want exactly those two now.

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao protecting Dann is not a good look for them either.

Dann should only be able to use their Loyal Babysit if a Mason is faded today, and on a Mason.

Other wise, it’s just added WIFOM.

ScumNono/Hu Tao kill Dann for a double kill making tomorrow MELO, and it ignores the 3-2 scenario completely that Hu Tao was talking about.

Imo, only a Mason or Titus/Dann should be faded for real today.

Protecting him when I wanted and pushed him all day 1

[Flavor Leaf]

Hu Tao protecting Dann is not a good look for them either.

Dann should only be able to use their Loyal Babysit if a Mason is faded today, and on a Mason.

Other wise, it’s just added WIFOM.

ScumNono/Hu Tao kill Dann for a double kill making tomorrow MELO, and it ignores the 3-2 scenario completely that Hu Tao was talking about.

Imo, only a Mason or Titus/Dann should be faded for real today.

Protecting him when I wanted and pushed him all day 1

This was prior to babysitter claim

[Flavor Leaf]

And if you wanna be real, I protected him the hardest

[Flavor Leaf]

I just don’t feel like you have any non surface level analysis or reads this game

[Flavor Leaf]

Because if Masons are real, Titus is obv af scum

[Firebringer]

I don't see una as scum. And for una to be scum fire would have to be scum since he's back up mail man. Correct? There can't be a town mailman and a back up mailman that's scum. So if you scumread una you should scumread fire regardless

good then maybe you should help me buss Una.

also ur posting frequency isnt' my problem. Its the lack of effort into those posts

I think you just aren't reading my posts. I clearly said I don't think it's una.

I think you are misrepresenting ur own posts here because yes you said u don't think its una but right after said if it is una he and i are a team. which is what i was responding to. Which is pretty fuckin obvious.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Flavor

This feels like boxed in scum.

how much of the game have u read

[Doctor Drew]

Now I am coming right back to Bulge/Titus

[Firebringer]

I refuse to believe FL would be having this take as town. He could just be open wolfing. He's been trying to go the suboptimal routes all game

No, flavor leaf is right. Even if u two are masons. There is zero reason scum kill u two just to confirm the other. Your both not solving and being useful to the game, scum would be more afraid of active useful town than you 2. Both ur plays makes more sense if this is a end game scum gambit of leaving u 2 be in the hopes of being ignored.

are u going to take nono stance as well that if ur both alive tomorrow we can elim in u 2?

[Flavor Leaf]

Hu Tao said it has to be exactly 3-2 for us to fade them, which is not good because in that scenario, that loses the game if they are town.

They also trying to get a Dannflor extra kill to get into 4-2 scenario MELO that’s outside of their 3-2 scenario.

It’s Nono/Hu Tao or it’s Titus/Dann.

[Flavor Leaf]

Or it’s Fire/Drew, I’m getting defended by scum, and I’d need to die anyways.

Either way, they earned that trust for me if they scum.

At least for Day 3.

Can’t say the same about the others.

Even Una with their weird play earned it.

Geraint obv town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hu Tao 3162 and 3163 really rub me the wrong way.

Like yes, they are looking to move votes off of Nono, but not all of them are expressing town reads specifically.

There’s plenty that easily look like scum protecting another partner, and it feels sly and manipulative for Hu Tao to place them there.

There’s definitely a world I think they are town, but it’s not like a forgone conclusion by any means.

I still think it’s weird how people are trying to push the setup doesn’t work without masons, the backup mailman doesn’t work, but they slide by on Drew being Informed of a traitor while being a Traitor-Finder.

That is 100% the weirdest thing in the setup, and besides Una, nobody else seems to think so.

Idc if it’s real. It’s weird. I don’t mind weird in setups. It just is weird, if it’s true, idk i kinda like it too. It’s just weird

[Dannflor]

V/LA for 24 hours

Ill at least try to catch up and move my vote if needed in a few hours

[Flavor Leaf]

@Fire - do you think scum is just the masons or just think we need to take them out just in case?

What’s your read on Titus/Bulge slot?

[Nono]

hu tao just vote dan please
i think fl is town

fire, irony much??

[Flavor Leaf]

Anyway I've really been doing the rounds lately huh

I guess main things still to come are that I need to speak to Roden, I need to more pointedly speak to The Bulge, and we as a whole shall await Xegarus' replacement in the probably scum slot

What do you need to speak about

I wanna ask sumn so let me know when youre caught up

But also a diff question i have is why do you tr jackson?

i thought jv's thought process around drew was pretty easy to follow and i think it was genuine

why did you ask about jackson specifically

Bold of you to assume i give a fuck how you view my play
I play for nobody except myself.

I have an action that can confirm town myself tonight if you really want me to

Why can't you just tell us what this is now?

why is it necessary for her to do that

Because it's implied in the set up that Cop might be a Miller-esque role due to scum having a Cop. And if scum and town both have Cops then why do we have a Friendly Neighbor/the equivalent of a Friendly Neighbor here as well? And why soft claim that in the first place?

i don't think we can assume town have a cop and i don't really see why they couldn't exist alongside each other

i absolutely agree that the soft claim is not good play but i've seen those exact claim circumstances come from town way too many times

TRAiiiiiiiitor lol

[Doctor Drew]

Came in to say that we just need to consolidate on someone, and that all things considered I prefer the 'masons'(do you think you might be getting played here Flavor?)

But that is a good traitor case on Dann.

[Flavor Leaf]

Came in to say that we just need to consolidate on someone, and that all things considered I prefer the 'masons'(do you think you might be getting played here Flavor?)

But that is a good traitor case on Dann.

It's possible, but I lean Masons being town not aware of going on, which is already a mason/IC/conf town curse, in addition to them being inactive for a while.

Titus/Dann is really my like main read for the team, but ill go through a Mason to get rid of Mason paranoia and to reach Titus/Dann.

Like it's Day 3, we dont have to be 100% correct, and if im dead wrong, if i live, i should figure it out.

i just want to be convinced im wrong rather than told im wrong, which masons dont do.

im very open to having my reads changed in almost every game, just gotta give solid reasons.

[Flavor Leaf]

i dont even think that Hu Tao's reason for 'backup mailman' claim is bad, I just don't think it's enough, if that makes sense.

One thing doesn't make someone scum, a collection of things do.

In certain cases, I guess it can, but I don't think simply Backup Mailman is good enough to think Firebringer is 100% scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

could it be true? sure. but i think the case Firebringer would have claimed better as scum is a weak defense for it, but a defense nonetheless, and thus, more reasons are necessary since I kinda wanna throw out setup spec here.

Seems to have been working for me lately throwing setup spec out the door

[Flavor Leaf]

IF Dann ends up being town, and Masons end up being town, it probably means it's Drew/Titus, which is annoyingly what I started with this day phase.

But I don't really care to push Drew this game anymore.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Titus

[Flavor Leaf]

I just go back and look at Bulge's posts, and can't see a single way they're town, especially considering Marci did all they could to avoid voting them.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Titus

Lol, I love how chaotic you are this day phase.

VOTE: Titus