Mini Normal 2317 - Postgame

[gob]

Everyone, I am here to save the day.

[gob]

gob have you managed to roll town today?

Yes, mafia season is over.

[gob]

VOTE: Organized Khaos

Someone fill me in if there has been any checks or somethin.

[gob]

I don't think it is Chell.

I think @camelSnivy is mafia here btw. Titus and Bingle seem TvT.

[gob]

What's the case for Snivy?

I'm surprised there's an IC in this game, so Scum is probably packing heat?

VOTE: KeyLaga

bad first post

Snivy has been stowing in the middle, and mainly asking questions, which I think is in his scum meta. Also, when you look at the votes from yesterday.

Chell/Naerys/Elements/Snivy were off-wagon, Elements died. One of these is likely mafia as the whole mafia team won't jump on the wagon killing town. (Unless you think Khaos is scum and they jumped to save, but I think Khaos is towny)
Chell and Naerys I read and like a bit. Snivy and Random Nurse I read and didn't like.

[gob]

@Titus, I believe Elements claimed that, not Chell.

@gob, this is like the one game where I think all the scum was on the wagon but maybe you have a point. Can you elaborate on Chell/Naerys/CCS reads?

@Snivy what you mean in 2878?

@Chell, okay, and what do you make of that? Is the different reaction enough to exonerated her in your POV? Also, did you read my case on Bingle and what do you think about it?

I cant remember exactly about Chell, i think it was mainly because Chell has been pushed a lot this game Naerys I think is more clearly playing her town game. So i guess Naerys > Chell > Snivy

Snivy i feel has just gone super under the radar. But yea one of those is likely scum. If one of them is super scummy then tell me.

[gob]

Or let me put it another way, who do you think was the scum on the wagon?

Not sure, too hard to tell right now. Especially because the night kills dont really implicate anyone, at least from what I can tell so far.

Bingel and Khaos are just obv towning imo, have a towny mindset. We'll see tho

[gob]

ya Drew is useless

WOAh, come on now.

[gob]

I approve of Bingle's push on Sleepy Dragon.

[gob]

See? I told you Bingle is the glue that keeps this game together.

Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality.

interesting.

I am town this game so who is scum Bingle? Besides the one you just mentioned

[gob]

See? I told you Bingle is the glue that keeps this game together.

Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality.

interesting.

I am town this game so who is scum Bingle? Besides the one you just mentioned

What are you trying to say here?

Did you drink some of my whiskey??

I am asking Bingle who he thinks is scum.

[gob]

Yes I am gamma.

We share ccs as a scumread. I am feeling good about Naerys, though, so can you explain why you SR her?

[gob]

Hey guys, what's up?

Scummy re-enterance

[gob]

Anyway I need people to fill me in.

1. Has anyone claimed?
2. Any night time stuff happen
3. Why oh why did it tie yesterday?

[gob]

Only answer the first 2 questions, ignore the last one.

[gob]

Okay, sort of feels like camel is frozen here btw.

[gob]

I approve of Bingle's push on Sleepy Dragon.

I think gob is scum regardless of Bingle's alignment tbh

What y

[gob]

I don't think it is Chell.

I think @camelSnivy is mafia here btw. Titus and Bingle seem TvT.

This post has been eating at me. Titus v Bingle? We haven't really been at odds. Feels out of left field.

i meant your slot vs bingle slot

[gob]

I approve of Bingle's push on Sleepy Dragon.

I think gob is scum regardless of Bingle's alignment tbh

What y

This take as well as the post where you were talking about Titus v Bingle + "camelSnivy" give me the same feeling as most of your posts in STDBINSBICACOT. I unfortunately cannot explain that feeling, but it's there.

Well the feeling is wrong.

[gob]

Gob, why did you say me v Bingle when we haven't had much interaction at all?

I said it was between your slots, did I not? Your two slots in the beginning of the game.

[gob]

gob can you give me a solve that has me/you/bingle as town? Because if you are both town I'm really struggling to see who the maf can be.

I am pretty sure you are mafia here

[gob]

gobs not in my poe here

maybe you r town

[gob]

I am scumreading you for voting a slot which you should be townreading.

I approve of Bingle's push on Sleepy Dragon.

I think gob is scum regardless of Bingle's alignment tbh

You said this because of a feeling, self admitted. But you put it after a big post and made it seem like it was backed up by something more than a meta feeling. You feel I am acting similar to 891, that's fine you can feel however you want. I feel like you are trying to mislim me here, frankly, it all seems so disingenuous. I've also never seen you this energized either.

Hi Khaos, why is scum?

Also have you played forum mafia before?

This post is HOWLING

It just feels exactly like how he posted in 891

I do not understand this read at all lol. You think I am similar to 891 for this post.

I don't think it is Chell.

I think @camelSnivy is mafia here btw. Titus and Bingle seem TvT.

As I explained, this read is about Titus' and Bingle's slots. I was reading the early game, and whoever was replacing them early I felt their slots seem TvT. I cant remember exactly why though.

I still generally dont think it's Chell. Snivy I feel like would've totally buried here if he was scum, frankly. He would've joined Dragon, Titus, Drew in voting me.

gob can you give me a solve that has me/you/bingle as town? Because if you are both town I'm really struggling to see who the maf can be.

I am pretty sure you are mafia here

Do u like have a reason

Also, I am pretty sure I am not maf. So I would like to know who you think is maf if it's not me.

You asked me to give you a solve. I cannot give a solve right now, but I can give town and scumreads. Between me, you and bingle, I think you are the scummiest.

I am to a certain extent tunneling you too much, since all your posts look scummy AF right now.

[gob]

I dont like Titus, tbh. Their play reminds me 245. Trying to stay under the radar.

I'm down w/ voting Titus

[gob]

Gob the fuck you talking about? My scum case on Bingle and my scum read on you have nothing to do with each other. For you it's just a vibe. How is it disingenuous to make a vibe read after a scum case on someone else???

Wtf does "howling" mean

And if you are self-admittedly tunneling me then maybe get off that tunnel and answer my damn question of who you think is scum besides me? Because I do have a few people I can see as scum IF you are town.

DUDE, see im not even saying your scum case on Bingle and your scumread on me have ANYTHING to do with each other. IDK how you got that from my posts

Besides you I think Titus is scummy. Camel I flipped on. I think that is obvious from my other posts.

You seem to be misinterpreting my posts, and then not interpreting the ones that are actually there.

IF you are town, slow the heck down.

[gob]

I'm gonna need some receipts for these meta reads Sleepy Dragon.

You've thrown out one on me and one on Titus. Hard SR and hard TR.

Let's see some receipts with reasoning. Because I think you're just talking out of your ass.

[gob]

Dragon must be wolfing here. If not wolfing you need to totally fix your playstyle cause its bad.

But i think youre scum here.

[gob]

DUDE, see im not even saying your scum case on Bingle and your scumread on me have ANYTHING to do with each other. IDK how you got that from my posts

Then explain this post where you quote something I said to Bingle and then talk about my scumread on you being somehow disingenuous:

I am scumreading you for voting a slot which you should be townreading.

I approve of Bingle's push on Sleepy Dragon.

I think gob is scum regardless of Bingle's alignment tbh

You said this because of a feeling, self admitted. But you put it after a big post and made it seem like it was backed up by something more than a meta feeling. You feel I am acting similar to 891, that's fine you can feel however you want. I feel like you are trying to mislim me here, frankly, it all seems so disingenuous. I've also never seen you this energized either.

What does this even have to do with what you said? Which was that you accused me of saying your Bingle read and read on me were linked. What i actually said was that you threw out your read on me, which you said came from only a feeling, right after a big ppst about someone else.

Your read on Bingle has nothing to do with me (for the most part). So i was confused why you would say i was scum for sure when it didnt have anything to do with the big post.

You are constantly twisting my words and shading me. Titus is going along with it.

I think one of you is scum. I still think you could be Town Sleepy, but I am telling you right bow your logic doesnt make sense and your whole push on me is wrong.

[gob]

VOTE: Sleepy Dragon

I’m willing to go Titus but this probably hits scum.

If i am mislimmed today, PLEASE vote off Dragon/Titus. Maybe both

[gob]

Help me out here Celebloki

[gob]

I'm not really trying to bury but it does feel weird that Dragon was voting snivy, who I previously scumread and voted.

Do you think we are w/w here? Because if so, you can prove that within this game and not reference past-games that really aren't relevant to formulate your read.

But if you are town here, I am willing to work with you. But you'll have to work with me.

[gob]

Holy shit its so over for me...

[gob]

If I am town?

That post was directed at Dragons. My bad

[gob]

I don't know who to vote for

Follow my lead.

[gob]

I don't know who to vote for

Follow my lead.

But I trust Sleepy Dragon

Dragon may be wolfing you. Either way they're wrong on me. So you can trust me.

[gob]

DUDE, see im not even saying your scum case on Bingle and your scumread on me have ANYTHING to do with each other. IDK how you got that from my posts

Then explain this post where you quote something I said to Bingle and then talk about my scumread on you being somehow disingenuous:

I am scumreading you for voting a slot which you should be townreading.

I approve of Bingle's push on Sleepy Dragon.

I think gob is scum regardless of Bingle's alignment tbh

You said this because of a feeling, self admitted. But you put it after a big post and made it seem like it was backed up by something more than a meta feeling. You feel I am acting similar to 891, that's fine you can feel however you want. I feel like you are trying to mislim me here, frankly, it all seems so disingenuous. I've also never seen you this energized either.

What does this even have to do with what you said? Which was that you accused me of saying your Bingle read and read on me were linked. What i actually said was that you threw out your read on me, which you said came from only a feeling, right after a big ppst about someone else.

Your read on Bingle has nothing to do with me (for the most part). So i was confused why you would say i was scum for sure when it didnt have anything to do with the big post.

You are constantly twisting my words and shading me. Titus is going along with it.

I think one of you is scum. I still think you could be Town Sleepy, but I am telling you right bow your logic doesnt make sense and your whole push on me is wrong.

You are not making sense

Why does my post about you being scum (which isn't even saying you are scum for sure) need to have any relationship to the big post?

What does it matter whether or not there was a big post before that?

I am not saying it necessarily even has a relationship, but the fact you made that big post and THEN concluded it was me (even though it was a feeling based off meta) is a thought process I cannot wrap my head around.

This isn't really productive topic so lets just drop it and do something else.

[gob]

Elements

(EXECUTED):

KittyTacky

, Bingle, Doctor Drew, Gamma Emerald, Organized Khaos, Titus, Sleepy Dragon
Organized Khaos (2): Chell, Naerys
Bingle (2):

Elements

, camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (1):

Celebloki

Not Voting (1):

Eiralox

Kitty died
Eiralox died


Chell/Naerys/Snivy

I actually liked Snivy. Naerys I remember thinking she was distinctly different from her scum game. Chell I liked before, but I haven't seen them post much at all. and they were necessarily out of their scum meta. So I would be fine voting Chell. I am super confident one of those 3 are mafia btw. Like 100%

Besides that PoE, I think it's you and Titus.

Everyone just remember this

Especially you vigilante, if you exist and its not a NK (I could see mafia killing Eira to snuff out info btw. I may be missing something that happened, but Kitty being shot seems weird from Vigi, since Kitty didn't have any votes at EoD. So unless it was a hard read by someone, it's more likely that Vigi shot the non-voter wildcard Eira).

Chell/Naerys/Snivy
you probably know better between these which one is which. Shoot that one. But one of these are a good shot for sure. I feel Chell > Naerys > Snivy
[Titus/Sleepy Dragon]
I am less sure about these 2, but one is likely mafia. TItus isn't really acting how she does as mafia comparing her to last game, I do feel the way she got on the wagon is scummy, though. So I lean Sleepy over Titus. Talking to Sleepy feels like I'm talking to an uncharitable wall, which is usually how I feel talking to mafia.

[gob]

I think he is independently scummy, but that is mainly my last will. If/When I die, just understand that post.

[gob]

Naerys I remember thinking she was distinctly different from her scum game

What scum game? I have 0 scum games

Really? I must be misremembering then.

Naerys I remember thinking she was distinctly different from her scum game

And you know that how?

I thought I did but I guess I was wrong.

[gob]

kinda think gob is scum too and has good equity with organized khaos

3069 reminds me almost exactly of the analysis posts gob did upon replacing in to Mini Normal 2313

and based on how I'm pretty sure town!Gob treats VCA - he'd be considering one of the counter wagons to the d1 town wagon (bingle or khaos) as scum, but they are missing from his solve

Thats a good point actually. If it is one of them its khaos btw. I am going with what i said since that is almost assured (my poe of 3)

I feel like Titus and Sleepy are using bad on my wagon. Mainly sleepy using the logic and titus following. But you can ignore those two if you want.

[gob]

kinda think gob is scum too and has good equity with organized khaos

3069 reminds me almost exactly of the analysis posts gob did upon replacing in to Mini Normal 2313

and based on how I'm pretty sure town!Gob treats VCA - he'd be considering one of the counter wagons to the d1 town wagon (bingle or khaos) as scum, but they are missing from his solve

Thats a good point actually. If it is one of them its khaos btw. I am going with what i said since that is almost assured (my poe of 3)

I feel like Titus and Sleepy are using bad on my wagon. Mainly sleepy using the logic and titus following. But you can ignore those two if you want.

let's vote khaos then

Well here is the thing. Khaos being the wagon that died for Elements (who was town) doesn't necessarily shade Khaos as scum.
However Chell/Snivy/Naerys will 100% hit one.

And yea, you are in that pool, and I quite like Snivy for sticking up for me today (i feel like scum would've let me get buried there). Naerys I would have to hear about.

[gob]

It can't be as simple as Gob and Khaos plus ?

Can it?

You think the wagon shades Khaos scum? Or what.

[gob]

It can't be as simple as Gob and Khaos plus ?

Can it?

You think the wagon shades Khaos scum? Or what.

Wut.

Scum wagon dying to get a town mis limmed.

You are saying this can't be possible.

How?

Wtf are you saying?? Am I seriously that unclear??

I agree with that line of thinking, in fact, I think Khaos could be scum myself. However I am saying that my PoE of 3 > the Khaos read using vote count analysis.

I was basically asking you if you think... well basically what you just said. And I agree, it is possible.

[gob]

VOTE: Chell

Let's start here.

[gob]

Especially you vigilante, if you exist and its not a NK (I could see mafia killing Eira to snuff out info btw. I may be missing something that happened, but Kitty being shot seems weird from Vigi, since Kitty didn't have any votes at EoD. So unless it was a hard read by someone, it's more likely that Vigi shot the non-voter wildcard Eira).

You, uh... You read what KT flipped right?

? what does that have to do with anything (i dont really know what babysitter does i'll be honest)

[gob]

To my knowledge, babysiter if it dies the other babysiter dies too right?

Or is it the babysitter... like they die instead of the person? Is that what it is?

[gob]

babysitter is doc, but if they die their target dies. KT killed eira, 99% of the time here.

Oh I see, okay.

[gob]

Someone who is less in a bathtub than me should check to see if gob has played with a babysitter before, but yeah, I feel significantly worse about gob now.

I definitely have at some point. I didnt even really think about the babysitter being dead when i made the original post though.

I am not dumb telling btw @Chell

Someone can come and explain how I do this. I am something of a savant... basically kinda stupid, I forget a lot of shit, everyone finds me annoying... but I can catch wolves.

[gob]

VOTE: gob

Probably a horrible vote but the best I could do right now

If I'm being snowed by a Chell/Bingle/Khaos (or Snivy) team that would be funny.

Nobody is really going along with you because they know your push is fake and bad. Ive given you plenty of time amd chances to realize your flawed thinking with me. Your conclusions are constantly convenient and its clear you have an agenda.

[gob]

Why are you guys blitzing me? At least give me more time.

[gob]

Can someone who is actually town interact with me in a real way before I go?

Feels like nothing but wolves

[gob]

Dragon if you are scum, you wouldn't get away with this with better players in this town.

If you are town, seriously need to rework how you play. Just bad.

[gob]

VOTE: Chell

[gob]

Can someone who is actually town interact with me in a real way before I go?

Feels like nothing but wolves

I am actually town

What do you want to interact about

I don't want to interact with you at all, since regardless of your alignment you have shown me you are incapable of giving my posts a proper reading. All your conclusions are off, and it leads me to having to correct myself for your own misunderstandings.

I am willing to drop my SR on you though since you at least seem to be giving me a chance to speak.

Do you really think your own push against me is good enough that Chell and Naerys jumping on here isn't scummy? btw. Because Naerys and Chell have really not interacted with me much at all, and here they are voting me because of you.

[gob]

none of gob's last 4 posts are real town thoughts

Says who? lol

[gob]

Cool, random old game that is barely relevant to this one.

How about you actually bring up some of my posts this game and talk about them? Or at least talk to me chell.

[gob]

Because Naerys and Chell have really not interacted with me much at all, and here they are voting me because of you.

i am not really going to interact with you here regardless of alignment

but ive stated why i think you're scum

Why?

[gob]

gob what do you know of my scum meta ?

I don't know and don't care about your scum meta. I think you are scum because you are the most scummy among Naerys/you/snivy and one of those is almost certainly scum.

[gob]

you literally made up a read on me

??????

[gob]

VOTE: gob

I'll just vote myself here because I know you dumbasses aren't going to realize you're getting wolfed.

Chell/Naerys/Snivy = Shoot/sort one of these

I also think Bingle could possibly be town upon looking back at the beginning.

Good luck, but I doubt town wins here. Since there is probably dumb town on my wagon.

[gob]

PLEASE learn to play

[gob]

bingle = possibly wolf

[gob]

When will you realize that meta is not a good way to read players. Especially the way you use it.

Have fun losing more games.

[gob]

please do not join games if your mental is that weak

the irony of this post

[gob]

K I am pretty sure I'm not voting so gob is at E-1

I need to do my V/LA things so I'm going to leave you now. I'll check in tomorrow probably and if I'm in a good mood I might try to talk with you more, gob. But atm I really don't feel like. I have better things I need to do IRL.

Seems like you're running because I just town told

[gob]

Just christ you're so fucking annoying holy shit.

[gob]

I'm not gonna bother defending myself against meta reads because they don't mean anything.

I play pretty similar between wolf and town. I am town this game, but I am struggling to get any more rads right now cause I got to keep defending myself from people like Sleepy and Chell.

[gob]

I literally didn't but you can believe what you want. You're just taking new evidence that may suggest im town and saying "this actually confirms him as mafia even MORE!"

That has been my entire experience talking to you, and Sleepy Dragon too to a certain extent.

[gob]

My guess of scum team right now would be Sleepy/Bingle/(Chell/Naerys) btw

If scum is not voting me and instead pocketing me here... they need to do a better job and come save me.

Reminds me a bit of scum!theworst in 244
Obviously scum isnt going down screaming " i am scum"

Can you and Chell even FATHOM the possibility im town?

Like at least try it.

[gob]

If you think im scummy for AtE'ing the people who I'm sussing btw

PLEASE sit and think about my own mindstate and positioning for 2 minutes then you'll understand

[gob]

VOTE: Sleepy Dragon

I’m willing to go Titus but this probably hits scum.

If i am mislimmed today, PLEASE vote off Dragon/Titus. Maybe both

Do you still think Titus could be scum?

Yes I do. However right now I am just going to focus on you/naerys/snivy, since I am probably OMGUSING too hard on the people voting me.

Gob your iso is quite wild in throwing SR. Titus,Dragon,Khaos,Chell, me. You give inconsistent vibe.

I just replaced in and im still like, getting my bearings on everyone and everything. It takes me time to get going.

[gob]

I-I'm not sure if Gob is scum or not.

Can you explain why?

[gob]

You're both just hating for no reason.

Chell is more scummy here than Naerys though.

[gob]

I-I'm

not sure if Gob is scum or not.

UNVOTE: gob
VOTE: Khaos
This is clear theatrics. I am sorry Dragon, i know you said Khaos lim gives us no information but i think he has to go.

[gob]

I re-read and thought about it. I'll elaborate more in a later post, im a bit tired right now.

i think the team is Snivy + Titus/Dragon

VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

[gob]

chell, why did you go from sheeping gob to voting with him?

gob presumably has reason and bingle does too so theyre fine but doctor drew's vote is pretty weird (also idk what a lynchpin is)

This is just a scummy reaction to being voted. I can't really remember snivy acting this way in Topaz though FWIW.

[gob]

I’ll probably just end up sheeping whatever Dragon does

Why? Even if they're town it doesnt help us if you sheep

[gob]

I wanna go here right now.

VOTE: Khaos

How the heck you been on this site for over a decade and u dont even have 1000 posts?!

You must be a man of few words

[gob]

Whatever, I'm just a newbie vanillager, I wouldn't be helpful anyways.

Agreed.

[gob]

I wanna go here right now.

VOTE: Khaos

How the heck you been on this site for over a decade and u dont even have 1000 posts?!

You must be a man of few words

I am an outlier.

Also, I don't trust the ccs wagon. Khaos is the flip yoday.

Why is Khaos the flip? Lol

Khaos seems to be LHF.

[gob]

idk.

I would like everyone, except for Khaos, Celebloki and Chell to converse with me about what is happenin right now.

[gob]

Why are you so keen on limming Khaos? Sure they could be scum, but they could also be LHF, I think anyone would agree with that. You also seemed keen on limming me yesterday, but now you aren't that interested.

Are you just shopping around for a read today or what.

[gob]

I am not lukewarm on Snivy at all. I am not 100% on him but his acceptance of people jumping on his wagon seems scummy to me. Does it seem scummy to anyone else?

[gob]

idk.

I would like everyone, except for Khaos, Celebloki and Chell to converse with me about what is happenin right now.

I am not lukewarm on Snivy at all. I am not 100% on him but his acceptance of people jumping on his wagon seems scummy to me. Does it seem scummy to anyone else?

gob i think you forget that i also want to hunt scum

Just seemed odd to me.

[gob]

what was your reason for jumping on me before my response to voting you

What response are you talking about?

[gob]

We're gonna lose here. I can sense it.

[gob]

We're gonna lose here. I can sense it.

If you are scum, then sure.

I am not scum. I think us (town) are going to lose.

Unless it is snivy.

[gob]

We're gonna lose here. I can sense it.

If you are scum, then sure.

I am not scum. I think us (town) are going to lose.

Unless it is snivy.

I am not accepting your defeated demeanor.

Well whatever, not my problem. Just a sixth sense I have, having played the game for so long.

I'll have to level up my play here... but first I need to move furniture irl.

In the meantime, besides Snivy who are the other scummiest people according to not-VCA? Since VCA is a forbidden technique on this website.

[gob]

We're gonna lose here. I can sense it.

If you are scum, then sure.

I am not scum. I think us (town) are going to lose.

Unless it is snivy.

I am not accepting your defeated demeanor.

Well whatever, not my problem. Just a sixth sense I have, having played the game for so long.

I'll have to level up my play here... but first I need to move furniture irl.

In the meantime, besides Snivy who are the other scummiest people according to not-VCA? Since VCA is a forbidden technique on this website.

You and Khaos.

So town and LHF? And frankly I have had people call me LHF as well. and 3 maf alive at least.

So there is certainly a deepwolf you are not accounting for.

[gob]

deepwolf deepwolf deepwolf

you mocking me or somethin?

[gob]

I'm just playing suboptimally because playing optimally is hard

VOTE: Khaos

I think you're more likely wolfing, actually.

We need to get it right here

7v3 (most likely)
6v3 (if we mislim)
5v3 = MYLO, and I do not think we can win from that position based on things.

So we actually need to get everything in line today.

[gob]

I'll solve this all when i can get my fookin bluetooth to work.

Sleepy Dragon, regardless of your alignment, you're off duty. Nobody should be listening to Sleepy Dragon anymore. I suspect he is mafia and potentially town misplaying,.

[gob]

1.45 (UNCHANGED)

Votecount 1.45

Elements (E-2): KittyTacky, Bingle, Titus, Doctor Drew, Gamma Emerald
Bingle (E-2): Sleepy Dragon, Chell, Naerys, Elements, camelCasedSnivy
Eiralox (1): Organized Khaos
Gamma Emerald (1): Eiralox

Not Voting (1):

Celebloki

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-11-16 10:02:20).

1.46

Votecount 1.46

Elements (4): KittyTacky, Bingle, Titus, Doctor Drew
Organized Khaos (4): Chell, Sleepy Dragon, Gamma Emerald, Naerys
Bingle (2): Elements, camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (1):

Celebloki

Eiralox (1): Organized Khaos
Gamma Emerald (1): Eiralox

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-11-16 10:02:20).

[gob]

I want gob to die

I feel he’s the single most likely scum flip in the game

you smokin crack

[gob]

VOTE: Khaotic Order

For vig yes.

As the D1 kill, not the best play.

If you think Drew is the scum, then this spews Order town. If you think Order is scum, this spews Drew town. (As mafia would at least want to vote and wagon their partner if they're gonna lose them)

[gob]

Who here thinks I am town?

[gob]

Is there anyone truly solving except dragon?

Tha fuck is this?

Yea. Naerys saying something totally outta left field = bad sign (imo)

What do you think Bingle? You are one of my main town reads btw.

[gob]

Leave this one to me Sleepy.

[gob]

I'm actually okay with either Khaos or Snivy getting limmed.

I feel a bit better about Snivy I guess. So i'll keep my vote here for now. I thought about it more and Chell nor Snivy voted Elements at all day 1. Chell ended up voting Khaos, who she is sus of. Snivy started off sort of susing Elements' slot with other people, but ended up voting with her at the end of the day. Also at one point Snivy said he was going to vote Elements but then never did. I just find the whole play around that a bit odd. But I am willing to hear an explanation about it.

Khaos' slot being flipped. I really don't think it matters because I think Chell and Naerys are shaded Town either way. Because they were on khaos EoD1, being the first on it. And then the wagon quickly died for Khaos. If Khaos was scum, i think its unlikely both of them are bussing. One of them maybe, but i feel like its unlikely.

[gob]

Sorry Taly but we should still lim your slot. You were c-wagon who died for mislim on elements.

[gob]

Sorry Taly but we should still lim your slot. You were c-wagon who died for mislim on elements.

gob where has this reasoning been all day

like you did not care about khaos being a counter wagon until i pointed it out and you still haven't even been pushing it until taly replaced in

First off, I didn't do anything because you pointed it out. That is just not how I ever approach the game regardless of alignment.
Secondly, I was always fine with killing Snivy or Khaos' slot. And the same reason on Khaos' wagon I'm pretty sure (not 100%) i used that exact same reasoning before too.

But yea when Taly replaced in I figured i would push it since its a new player.

[gob]

Why does it say hurt now?

[gob]

We definitely should not go Bingle. Bingle is one of the more towny slots in this game.

I think we need to stick to the plan and go Khaos here. I do still think Snivy is likely mafia but we're gonna let the game slip away if we

[gob]

VOTE: gob

I don't super want to kill khaos anymore given I think Taly has the capacity to obv town

That is a terrible reason to not vote someone.

[gob]

We definitely should not go Bingle. Bingle is one of the more towny slots in this game.

I think we need to stick to the plan and go Khaos here. I do still think Snivy is likely mafia but we're gonna let the game slip away if we

I need more from you on this

What more do you want? Seriously

[gob]

It's really simple

Khaos/Taly = main wagon yesterday
That wagon then died to Elements wagon (who is town)
Therefore it is worth going back and flipping Khaos.

Furthermore, Khaos/Taly flipping will practically confirm Naerys and Chell's alignment imo.

[gob]

Furthermore, Khaos/Taly flipping will practically confirm Naerys and Chell's alignment imo.

WDYM?

Naerys and Chell were the two people who drove the Khaos wagon Day 1. So flipping Khaos will really shed light on their alignments.

[gob]

What more do you want? Seriously

I want 3 sentences on why Bingle is town

I want 3 sentences on why Taly/Khaos is scum

I want to know what the sentence about Snivy meant because it's not clear.

Well I'm not really TRing Bingle in a heavy way. I think they could be scum with Khaos/Taly if that slot flips scum (as per #1830). However they are 100% not the vote today because Khaos gives way more info and is just as likely to hit scum.
A thing I think works in Bingle's favor is how willing they were to lim Elements yesterday. I feel like mafia would more likely TR Elements in that spot for later. Basically I read his Nov10-Nov13 and it feels like a towny EoD. Plus everything i've seen in real time seems solvy.

Taly/Khaos was the counter wagon yesterday. The wagon was strong and then it quickly died. This can indicate scum jumping off their partner, or convincing other townies to jump on someone else. In these scenarios, you almost always want to lim Khaos because it gives the most information (gives info on Naerys+Chell + all the people who jumped off for elements, which realistically is where a wolf probably is).

As for Snivy. I think they are most likely scum. But I am not 100%. After flipping Khaos/Taly I will most likely be 100% because of the info gained on Naerys + Chell.
So it makes more sense to go Khaos > Snivy.

My whole point about snivy though was, that if we start to CFD onto Bingle or me, we're going to lose. Because I do not trust town to win here. And I do not trust town because there are still plenty of people SRing me. Which means I'm either getting wolfed and town is siding with the wolves, or town is being dumb.

[gob]

So if it flips scum they're town and vice versa?

If Taly flips scum, it looks good for Naerys and Chell. Although I'll have to go and read again, since maybe it was a failed bus attempt. But more likely they're just both town in that scenario.

If Taly flips town, then I think Naerys is scum (off the top of my head) because Naerys started the wagon on Taly, then jumped off it, and then jumped back on after Chell hopped on. (Correct me if I'm wrong Naerys/Chell).

[gob]

Bingle (5): Dragon, Snivy, Naerys, Celebloki, Drew
gob (3): Dragon, Chell, Celebloki

What the heck is this?

Pretty sure its the HARM thing

[gob]

Chill. I don't think Sleepy is that tied to that read so its not that big of a deal.

Let's focus on winning here. I don't think Sleepy is a good vote.

[gob]

dont do anything until i get home in like an hour

im taking a shit rn

[gob]

Why the hell is anyone voting Bingle

[gob]

gob just hop on Bingle we need a lim thanks

You need to hop on CSS im not doing Bungle ever here

[gob]

Did nobody read any of my posts?

I feel like its so overwhelmingly Taly/CCS here. Never ever Bingle.

Like CCS -> Naerys/Chell info is legit 100% perfect info and also solves everyone off the main wagon Day 1. Which will make solving the wolves who were actually on Day 1 mislim wagon easier

[gob]

K I am going to sleep now so I'm counting on you guys not to fuck this up

You yourself put town in this poor position. If you would actually listen to other people, we might get into a better spot.

[gob]

Did nobody read any of my posts?

I feel like its so overwhelmingly Taly/CCS here. Never ever Bingle.

Like CCS -> Naerys/Chell info is legit 100% perfect info and also solves everyone off the main wagon Day 1. Which will make solving the wolves who were actually on Day 1 mislim wagon easier

Taly bingle works. Ccs counter to Taly

Bingle doesn't work for me.

[gob]

People just don't want to vote with me smh

[gob]

taly i feel like now is the time to be looking at who you want to kill today and naerys is not an option

Bingle is also not an option for a town that wants to win.

[gob]

I am a PR

Whose next?

[gob]

i lied about being PR to see how sd would claim

[gob]

Its not that confusing. I claimed PR out of order to pressure Maf

[gob]

The thing about lying is you can always tell the truth later

[gob]

Its not that confusing. I claimed PR out of order to pressure Maf

Again, please confirm you are a VT


Also smh I went to sleep and woke up and the only person posting is bianco

why the hell are you bossing me around? You mislimmed a townie yesterday that i was screaming was town.

[gob]

FMPOV:

I am town

I have a PR

There's a 50% chance I have a guilty on you and 50% I just think you are scum anyway.

Therefore, I would prefer to have you claim before me so I could potentially catch you in a lie.

Pretty simple.

you talking to me? of course im VT if im not PR what else could i be lol

i dont get this 50% stuff. How can you have a 50% guilty?


I am not gonna listen to you sleepy, and nobody else should either. You are either mafia or bad town here like that person who got limmed yesterday said.

[gob]

Also idk about all of you but I personally would really like gob to drop the shenanigans because what he is doing is anti town in the extreme

Like I was TRing gob for the unprompted PR claim but I see no town motivation in claiming and retracting like this, and then implying he might be a PR anyway. This is basically allowing him to adjust his claim based on other claims with 0 consequences.

Look you mislimmed a townie yesterday. Did i? no thats right i didnt, i was telling you who was actually mafia and nobody listened to me.

All i did was tell the truth and nobody believed me. So of course i need to start lying to the town when the “town” starts getting controlled by mafia.


You can say im anti town but I am trying to get the game back under my control. And not in the control of people who i think are mafia

[gob]

I am not gonna listen to you sleepy, and nobody else should either. You are either mafia or bad town here like that person who got limmed yesterday said.

Meanwhile you are an amazing townie that will lead us to victory.

I am, yes.

[gob]

Are we done with the whole PR claim stuff?

Once that is all finished I have stuff to say.

[gob]

I don't even know if you have a hard guilty. You've been saying you've had a hard guilty for a while now but on whom, Snivy?

Why would you even have investigated Snivy lol

[gob]

Also Naerys do you have your own opinion on why gob/Snivy are town or are you just sheeping me?

I am not sure if scum!snivy would wait with revealing their n2 actions after everyone else claiming.It feels like town motivated move.
Gob is more difficult. I cant rule out him being scum, beceause his behavior is irritating me and i dont really feel like he is being helpful. I am putting him to null for now.

My bad.

[gob]

Imma engage here soon for real.

I need to ask Chell, Naerys and Sleepy to LET ME PLAY and not shit on whatever I say first thing just because I happen to call you all scum at one point or another. Tis the game my friends.

[gob]

I am not preparing any post right now, I am just preparing to really solve with all the info we have.

I'm not gonna be right 100% obviously, but I'll need the actual townies to listen to me and really empathize with my position in this game. That is all.

[gob]

Doctor Drew, NewPerson/Taly/Khaos, Titus, Sleepy Dragon

This four contains scum, for sure.

I think it's between Titus and Sleepy. The fact Sleepy hasn't been gunning for Titus makes me think its both of them, frankly.

VOTE: Titus

I am actually also okay with limming the Taly slot, just because I also think that slot/Drew also most likely contains a wolf.

That is actually better to lim in, realistically. It's possible all maf were on Bingle's wagon, but I doubt it.

VOTE: Drew

But I seriously feel like Titus is mafia here. She hasn't really been progressing the game forward at all, which I think is more like her wolf game. She's been more in the background this game than any other game I've played with her before. Can't shake the feeling she's mafia basically.

I think Sleepy looks really bad, especially with what Bingle said, but I sorta idk feel like he's town still lol.

[gob]

Elements

(EXECUTED):

KittyTacky

,

Bingle

, Doctor Drew,

Gamma Emerald

, Organized Khaos, Titus, Sleepy Dragon
Organized Khaos (2): Chell, Naerys
Bingle (2):

Elements

, camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (1):

Celebloki

Not Voting (1):

Eiralox

= Doctor Drew,Organized Khaos,Titus, Sleepy Dragon = 1-3 mafia
= Chell, Naerys
= camelCasedSnivy
= 0-2 mafia

Bingle

(EXECUTED): Sleepy Dragon, camelCasedSnivy, Naerys, Chell, Titus,

Bingle

camelCasedSnivy (3):

gob

,

Celebloki

, Taly
Sleepy Dragon (1): Doctor Drew

= Taly / Drew = 50/50 (both were conveniently on the Element's wag day 1). Has 1-2 mafia.
= Sleepy Dragon, Snivy, Naerys, Chell, Titus = 1-3 mafia.


====

I'll show my work like it's school. This is what I'm working with and why I made the decisions I made. However if I went by purely gut I would go Titus here.

[gob]

do you uhhh have an opinion on SD claiming a guilty on Taly

It honestly seems unbelievable to me, but idk. It's possible SD is bussing but it just doesn't make sense to me why SD would check Taly.

Taly looked bad enough already, so I sort of doubt his claim. There is also the whole Bingle stuff that happened yesterday, I mean he was the leader of that Bingle push, but he's the cop. Doesn't really seem to add up to me.

But I am not sure, idk how the rolelist looks or anything. But it just doesn't seem like a reasonable check to me. Also did SD ever reveal all his results through the game?

[gob]

Gob why should we pick that over guilty on taly slot

Either is fine. I just chose drew since Taly slot isnt around

[gob]

It honestly seems unbelievable to me, but idk. It's possible SD is bussing but it just doesn't make sense to me why SD would check Taly.

Maybe because Taly was the only claimed VT? Maybe because Bingle, my other option, died? Maybe because Snivy, my other other option, softed PR?

Doesnt really make sense to me but whatever.

[gob]

i love this game state cause its tough

[gob]

gob can you just vote Taly already? Like worst thing that happens is my scumbuddies quickhammer, but for real bro, that is such a small downside for not having to wait forever.

Arent you admitting to being scum here? lol

[gob]

We definitely shouldnt hammer early at all. Why would you say that in a game state where town clearly doesnt have control.

[gob]

what is gob doing

what is gob doing

Finally we agree on something here lol

Gobity gob, i suppose

Frankly if you're Town and you're not flailing here, you're misplaying. 2 mislims so far, discussion is kind of stalling (obviously there are reasons but still). It's a bad spot for us and we need to do something drastic.

It honestly seems unbelievable to me, but idk. It's possible SD is bussing but it just doesn't make sense to me why SD would check Taly.

Maybe because Taly was the only claimed VT? Maybe because Bingle, my other option, died? Maybe because Snivy, my other other option, softed PR?

I don't really know why Snivy softing PR matters, but whatever.

I'll show my work like it's school. This is what I'm working with and why I made the decisions I made. However if I went by purely gut I would go Titus here.

I'm waiting.

I literally dude just show my work.

= Taly / Drew = 50/50 (both were conveniently on the Element's wag day 1). Has 1-2 mafia.
= Sleepy Dragon, Snivy, Naerys, Chell, Titus = 1-3 mafia.

I am NOT going to say everything you just said is bullshit just because of this, but I hope you do see the math doesn't check out. I assume you mean the second list has 1-2 maf?

You are right the maf is wrong. Basically I think Taly and Drew could both be scum, but if the other is town, then the other is most likely scum. Like 70% likely.
Sleepy/Snivy/Naerys/Chell/Titus has a wolf 100% no doubt (people on townie mislim wagon), but it's a bigger pool obviously.

The fact you aren't totally shutting me down though, and still listening to me and giving me the benefit of the doubt makes me think you are town though Sleepy. I can assure you I am town and that I'm gonna work my ass off to win the game. So if you are town just expect that and try to utilize it i guess.

[gob]

Drew, Titus, Snivy

One, some or all of you are scum. I think everyone in the entire game can agree on that.

[gob]

holy shit so many fucking errors in that catchup post, I am dumb as fuck.

[gob]

what is gob doing

what is gob doing

Finally we agree on something here lol

Gobity gob, i suppose

Frankly if you're Town and you're not flailing here, you're misplaying. 2 mislims so far, discussion is kind of stalling (obviously there are reasons but still). It's a bad spot for us and we need to do something drastic.

It honestly seems unbelievable to me, but idk. It's possible SD is bussing but it just doesn't make sense to me why SD would check Taly.

Maybe because Taly was the only claimed VT? Maybe because Bingle, my other option, died? Maybe because Snivy, my other other option, softed PR?

I don't really know why Snivy softing PR matters, but whatever.

I'll show my work like it's school. This is what I'm working with and why I made the decisions I made. However if I went by purely gut I would go Titus here.

I'm waiting.

I literally did just show my work. #3795

= Taly / Drew = 50/50 (both were conveniently on the Element's wag day 1). Has 1-2 mafia.
= Sleepy Dragon, Snivy, Naerys, Chell, Titus = 1-3 mafia.

I am NOT going to say everything you just said is bullshit just because of this, but I hope you do see the math doesn't check out. I assume you mean the second list has 1-2 maf?

You are right the math is wrong. Basically I think Taly and Drew could both be scum, but if the other is town, then the other is most likely scum. Like 70% likely there is a wolf between those 2, in a vacuum. It's a smaller pool but there isn't a guaranteed wolf (just likely) because it's the off-wagon. Also, it's possible both are scum but more likely one is scum and the other is town (because the other pool is so much bigger).
Sleepy/Snivy/Naerys/Chell/Titus has a wolf 100% no doubt (people on townie mislim wagon), but it's a bigger pool obviously.

The fact you aren't totally shutting me down though, and still listening to me and giving me the benefit of the doubt makes me think you are town though Sleepy. I can assure you I am town and that I'm gonna work my ass off to win the game. So if you are town just expect that and try to utilize it i guess.

[gob]

Man I hate the wolves this game just because we are losing right now and I know at least one of the wolves is sitting feeling all safe and pretty.

I may not win this game, but I will catch you before this is over.

[gob]

Drew, Titus, Snivy

One, some or all of you are scum. I think everyone in the entire game can agree on that.

They cant be all scum.
Either dragon is lying, which means he is scum and out of these mentioned by you only 2 can be scum. Or he is telling the truth and taly is scum and again, only 2 of these mentioned by you could be scum

Couldn't Dragon be lying and bussing? Theoretically. But what you say is probably more correct, yea.

[gob]

We're in MYLO. I don't really think no-limming helps us here though, since I don't want to give mafia more power in the day.

I probably die tonight so... okay, I see. I probably die tonight. So the only thing we can probably do is I figure out mafia today and we lim them. And go from there. Or I figure out mafia, but we no-lim, and then if I die everyone follows my stuff more easily and stuff.

[gob]

Town just check in.

Just quote this post and say, "hey im town" or something like that. I just want to know you are there.

[gob]

So your role is an even night VT cop?

I'm sorry but that is kind of a little hard to believe on the face of it. You honestly tone wise and everything come off really towny, at least to me. So if you're wolf, first off props, because I'm going to continue to keep treating you as town.

But the claim seems REALLY hard to believe, especially because... it's weak as a shrimp. Like EVEN night

VT

NOT EVEN ALIGNMENT cop?? (Also, even if that was the case, wouldnt Snivy for instance be a blocker? Idk how this setup works so apologies if this is wrong).


I feel like Titus is mafia here. If they're town and just throwing in the towel not trying... yea im not believe that from what little i know of her She's clearly scum and just hard to lim because her buddies never vote her. Well, I'll try it.

VOTE: Titus

[gob]

Town just check in.

Hi I'm town

If you're town with the weakest role ever... then vote Titus as a sign of alliance i guess. Even though realistically it means nothing in any way since it has no bearing on the game state. But whatever.

I just feel like that role is so unbelievably weak.

[gob]

Also why exactly are you questioning my role but not Drew's role or Naerys' role? They are also laughably bad.

:Yea they are bad

[gob]

Can someone give me the rundown on all these roles?

Inspector and whatever Naerys claimed.

[gob]

Also why exactly are you questioning my role but not Drew's role or Naerys' role? They are also laughably bad.

:Yea they are bad

they could be bad or not idk, i may have spoke too soon so dont get mad at me Drew or Naerys,

[gob]

Someone PLEASE elab these roles or tell me where they are?

[gob]

Either im gettin pocketed or sleep and chell are town.

[gob]

is it just me or has gob become incredibly obv town lol

Not just you

My current solve is probably Taly/Snivy/Drew but I'm 90% sure I'm wrong.

Titus could be in there: we have no room for error

Imma just set the like in the sand today. Im gonna get my licks in, even if we dont win.

[gob]

Either im gettin pocketed or sleep and chell are town.

Agreed here.

My biggest worry about your slot is Gamma flipping. I hope the gob world gets resolved in the night so I don't have to worry but with gob fosing me (which I don't get), I can't be sure.

How could you not get it? There are 5 town and 3 mf left. You havent done shit the entire time ive been playing. I dont think you would do that as town.

[gob]

Either im gettin pocketed or sleep and chell are town.

Agreed here.

My biggest worry about your slot is Gamma flipping. I hope the gob world gets resolved in the night so I don't have to worry but with gob fosing me (which I don't get), I can't be sure.

How could you not get it? There are 5 town and 3 mf left. You havent done shit the entire time ive been playing. I dont think you would do that as town.

That's flat out untrue. I've been trying to get Taly limmed the entire time.

Seems to me like the game is tough for town and youre coasting. I may have had the wrong view of you as a person though. Since idk i sort of thought you would be the kind of player who tries harder the tougher the game gets

[gob]

I am not ready to give up. I still plan on figuring something out before the day is over i just have had this game lower on my prio list


I dont like what Naerys and Titus just said. Frankly i know the game looks bad for us but i want to lim at least one scum before this game is over. And we can do that today.

if the game is over, naerys and titus, how about you lend me your vote? I have not given up but you both seemingly have.

[gob]

I sort of do with how many people are SRing Taly. Frankly. I believe scum has complete control of the games convo.

Taly could he scum though, but I want to win. And it just doenst feel like the winning play

[gob]

I sort of do with how many people are SRing Taly. Frankly. I believe scum has complete control of the games convo.

Taly could he scum though, but I want to win. And it just doenst feel like the winning play

So you believe that OWER didnt crumb neapolitan PR and Dragon is lying?

I literally have no clue, frankly.

[gob]

Sigh……

i didnt sigh irl though

[gob]

I dont understand how you can say scum hasn't posted much at all. This whole logic i am not following at all.

I don't have any real reads right now. I just dont really understand the gamestate, doesn't make sense to me. I think it could be Taly/Titus/Snivy in a simple world or something, but I feel like we're missing something. Also the way stuff went down with Sleepy is just insane if he's town. A lot of anti-town stuff the whole game.

I feel like its more likely mafia did something to prevent any CC here or something, and sleepy is just hammering the most scummy Townie left (Taly) for the mislim and then gg.

That is what I think is happening.

[gob]

The only universe where I see SD as scum is Taly being scum anyway.

Gob is trying to have his cake and eat it too because he doesn't want to vote Taly.

No im not im just stressing about other games and work. I am putting this game off, and i understand im cutting it close with the time but we dont even have a rep for Taly yet so seriously the game should be paused.

I am not even saying SD is scum. I literally do not understand the gamestate well enough at the current moment to properly judge whether or not SD is lying or not. Even though most people believe him it seems, the whole maf squad is still alive so I have to assume that the town convo is basically entirely dominated RN.

I am running out of time though i get that.

[gob]

We still have 4 days, I have plenty of time.

Let's wait for the Taly replacement at least. I mean what are we doing here? Hammering early in MYLO?

The people on Taly's wagon look bad and are over eager.

Anyway Taly/Snivy/Drew/Naerys/Titus

That is where i currently think the scum are. One of Taly or Snivy is probably scum based on how the wagons died for Bingle. But i just dont believe mafia would throw up their partner Taly here, they would heavily protect him.
Also bingle giving up and self-hammering was such a frustrating play. People who self-hammer really piss me off.

[gob]

We still have 4 days, I have plenty of time.

Let's wait for the Taly replacement at least. I mean what are we doing here? Hammering early in MYLO?

The people on Taly's wagon look bad and are over eager.

Anyway Taly/Snivy/Drew/Naerys/Titus

That is where i currently think the scum are. One of Taly or Snivy is probably scum based on how the wagons died for Bingle. But i just dont believe mafia would throw up their partner Taly here, they would heavily protect him.
Also bingle giving up and self-hammering was such a frustrating play. People who self-hammer really piss me off.

Well this post makes me feel way better about my Taly vote.

Yea cause im totally scum here, right?

Drew you are definitely scum here, actually.

[gob]

You have been sitting back glibly this entire game, quickly voting Taly in MYLO.

Even if Taly is scum here you cannot justify rushing to lim in this situation.

Everyone else on the Taly wagon is townier than you too. I think you are the eager mafia.

[gob]

You have been sitting back glibly this entire game, quickly voting Taly in MYLO.

Even if Taly is scum here you cannot justify rushing to lim in this situation.

Everyone else on the Taly wagon is townier than you too. I think you are the eager mafia.

Can you read that middle sentence slower for me and explain that logic?

Yes, simply. There are 5 town and 3 mafia. I do not know who the mafia are. I also do not know if Taly is a mafia. Even though SD has a red check, and he could be lying and there is something i havent accounted for. For instance something related to Taly (now Afrayed Knott)'s slot perhaps.

I mean let us use the time we have in such a tight situation. It's not like we know the next step tomorrow right away, right? so lets discuss things.

[gob]

Anti-intent

[gob]

You have been sitting back glibly this entire game, quickly voting Taly in MYLO.

Even if Taly is scum here you cannot justify rushing to lim in this situation.

Everyone else on the Taly wagon is townier than you too. I think you are the eager mafia.

Can you read that middle sentence slower for me and explain that logic?

Yes, simply. There are 5 town and 3 mafia. I do not know who the mafia are. I also do not know if Taly is a mafia. Even though SD has a red check, and he could be lying and there is something i havent accounted for. For instance something related to Taly (now Afrayed Knott)'s slot perhaps.

I mean let us use the time we have in such a tight situation. It's not like we know the next step tomorrow right away, right? so lets discuss things.

How do you know where are 3 mafia?

Now I KNOW you are mafia because you are trolling me. You don't think 13p has 3 mafia?

[gob]

You have been sitting back glibly this entire game, quickly voting Taly in MYLO.

Even if Taly is scum here you cannot justify rushing to lim in this situation.

Everyone else on the Taly wagon is townier than you too. I think you are the eager mafia.

Can you read that middle sentence slower for me and explain that logic?

Yes, simply. There are 5 town and 3 mafia. I do not know who the mafia are. I also do not know if Taly is a mafia. Even though SD has a red check, and he could be lying and there is something i havent accounted for. For instance something related to Taly (now Afrayed Knott)'s slot perhaps.

I mean let us use the time we have in such a tight situation. It's not like we know the next step tomorrow right away, right? so lets discuss things.

How do you know where are 3 mafia?

Now I KNOW you are mafia because you are trolling me. You don't think 13p has 3 mafia?

One would assume 3 mafia here, but you said it in a way that is TMI

No I didn't. You are scum grasping at straws trying to shade me for talking against the Taly wagon.

[gob]

drew a hater

[gob]

Seems like town to me.

[gob]

You have been sitting back glibly this entire game, quickly voting Taly in MYLO.

Even if Taly is scum here you cannot justify rushing to lim in this situation.

Everyone else on the Taly wagon is townier than you too. I think you are the eager mafia.

Can you read that middle sentence slower for me and explain that logic?

Yes, simply. There are 5 town and 3 mafia. I do not know who the mafia are. I also do not know if Taly is a mafia. Even though SD has a red check, and he could be lying and there is something i havent accounted for. For instance something related to Taly (now Afrayed Knott)'s slot perhaps.

I mean let us use the time we have in such a tight situation. It's not like we know the next step tomorrow right away, right? so lets discuss things.

How do you know where are 3 mafia?

Now I KNOW you are mafia because you are trolling me. You don't think 13p has 3 mafia?

Yea drew is also scum

This post keeps bugging me.

If knott is a mafia, then drew would most likely be town here. It's possible he's bussing but I really dont think that is the right play for mafia in this situation.

This kind of seems like TMI to me from Naerys.

It just doesn't add up. If Knott is scum then Drew is most likely town. So why is Naerys also voting Knott?

[gob]

You have been sitting back glibly this entire game, quickly voting Taly in MYLO.

Even if Taly is scum here you cannot justify rushing to lim in this situation.

Everyone else on the Taly wagon is townier than you too. I think you are the eager mafia.

Can you read that middle sentence slower for me and explain that logic?

Yes, simply. There are 5 town and 3 mafia. I do not know who the mafia are. I also do not know if Taly is a mafia. Even though SD has a red check, and he could be lying and there is something i havent accounted for. For instance something related to Taly (now Afrayed Knott)'s slot perhaps.

I mean let us use the time we have in such a tight situation. It's not like we know the next step tomorrow right away, right? so lets discuss things.

How do you know where are 3 mafia?

Now I KNOW you are mafia because you are trolling me. You don't think 13p has 3 mafia?

Yea drew is also scum

This post keeps bugging me.

If knott is a mafia, then drew would most likely be town here. It's possible he's bussing but I really dont think that is the right play for mafia in this situation.

This kind of seems like TMI to me from Naerys.

It just doesn't add up. If Knott is scum then Drew is most likely town. So why is Naerys also voting Knott?

It actually does make sense for a scum to bus here in !town you world. If a !town refuses to vote a guiltied scum, it frames the town and removes the risk of confirming all who vote the guiltied player if !town you suddenly played ball.

Kinda feels like TMI from you ngl

[gob]

I'm trying to solve the game Afrayed. I'm not just focused on today's lim. You haven't even talked to me btw, just talked about me.

I am not scum here, I'm trying to figure out if you are scum here.

[gob]

I'm trying to solve the game Afrayed. I'm not just focused on today's lim. You haven't even talked to me btw, just talked about me.

I am not scum here, I'm trying to figure out if you are scum here.

Ok here it is from my angle, I just dropped into a hostile environment and right now 80 to 90% of those here want to lim me. Its a fake claim, as I know I'm VT. what can I say, I get given 24 hours by Titus to read 150 plus pages and try to figure out what the shish kebab is going on or she lims me. Ok there is an unvote, but its like being the last turkey at on thanks giving night. you mentioned that you had something in the back of your mind about Taly, what was that?

Cant remember at this point.

[gob]

Cant remember at this point.

that's convenient. the prevention of a lose and the guarantee of a win is on the line and you can't recall what was so pressing regarding my slot that had you stall to vote?

That wasn't why I wasn't voting Taly. It was relevant to taly too, not your slot. I think, i barely even remember at this point.

I am sort of not as engaged as I should be, I agree. So I am trying to make sure people dont hammer before I can come and do shit when im more in the mood.

[gob]

Titus why are you only active now??


Also is drew basically outted scum like Naerys said? Or nah That is a question for everyone.

[gob]

im not planning on doing shit lmao wtf leave me be.

[gob]

I am so FUCKING ready to catch a scum this weekend.

Ive been biding my time and buidling my energy. But now I shoukd be able to find and lim a scum this weekend.

(^;’,

[gob]

Is that hammeR?

[gob]

Man when did everyone unvote.

[gob]

I dead ass thought Naerys was scum so that was cool of the mafia

[gob]

Im thinking Chell is mafia titus

My biggest weakness as a player is im super susceptible to pockets

[gob]

Do you think I'm town now? After yesterday?

i have no idea tbh

i think sd is town tho

[gob]

actually maybe sd bussed here

kind of unnecessary but i could see this all as a misplay bus attempt
irdk tho cause i haven’t been putting in much thought or effort since i thought we were gonna lose. but it looks winnable so i can clean up here

[gob]

if ur town here why werent you towning

[gob]

Also Titus what you are doing is so anti town it hurts

You are saying you want me to be nightkilled because you can't sort me and at the same breath angling for a no lim which will 100% not result in me being nightkilled.

nah i wouldn’t say that. you need to slow down too

[gob]

I want to take some time to get my bearings today. In a selfish way.

So i will be holding things up for a while. I do agree with Titus though, we shouldn't say much if you're town.

I just want to get my bearings in a real way though.

[gob]

I'm odd-night neopolitan and I got a red check on Titus

[gob]

Uh well if you're actually town quickly unvote. Can't the mafia quick hammer here?

[gob]

Uh well if you're actually town quickly unvote. Can't the mafia quick hammer here?

Why would I unvote? You're claiming a guilty on me which is a lie, so you can't be town. That is unless you're retracting. You aren't voting me.

I was trying to give you potential cover

[gob]

Cover for what?

UNVOTE: Gob

well it had the duel purpose of seeing if you were mafia and seeing if anyone would quick vote you, that person being the mafia. Me SRing you here covers you in the sense that mafia will go for you, showing me that it's not actually you.

So maybe cover is not the right word to use here

[gob]

This is very very odd. It makes no sense for either alignment

Seems fine to me.

Anyway if you are not scum who is mafia here? I am thinking camel probably and Chell.

[gob]

This is very very odd. It makes no sense for either alignment

Seems fine to me.

Anyway if you are not scum who is mafia here? I am thinking camel probably and Chell.

Chell is my biggest TR, why do you have a scumread there?

Because of my earlier read about Naerys/Chell. I felt one of them was scum for sure. However I prefer going camel here all things considered. It's clear the mafia don't actually have a strong control of the game given how Taly was limmed.

So I think camel could be pinned scum who couldn't really push against anyone else openly.

2.13

Votecount 2.13

camelCasedSnivy (E-2): Doctor Drew, Bingle, gob, Chell
Organized Khaos (3): Naerys, Titus,

Celebloki

Chell (1): Organized Khaos
Naerys (1): camelCasedSnivy

Not Voting (1): Sleepy Dragon

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution or 5 to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-11-28 12:17:09).

On second thought, Drew is my preferred lim.

I'm down with this too. There are 2 mafia left, I believe.

Uh well if you're actually town quickly unvote. Can't the mafia quick hammer here?

i don’t believe this is genuine

What. I assure you it is genuine, even if it didn't come off that way.

Idk it kinda reads to me like gob wanted to throw something wild out there on the off chance a dumb townie would vote titus and then he could backpedal as a reaction teat if it didn’t work out

I mean I Was throwing something wild out but it wasn't really to try and lim Titus. The way we interacted this game doesn't make me think that they have knowledge, basically. I felt they didn't play super towny the past few days, but that could've just been to live later into the game safely.

[gob]

What about my play hasn't been super towny? What specifically changed your mind?

Why fake a guilty in elo on a townread? I mean it was blatantly fake but still.

Well first off, i didnt read anything before I replaced in so I can't speak for that. But I just felt like you weren't doing anything. At the time I thought mafia was controlling the town and Taly was either green or getting bussed. But now I see it's not really like that, so you not doing as much as I thought you would doesn't bother me.

Idk I was just feeling it.

[gob]

HMMM

So in that world it leaves Chell only

[gob]

Looks like it can't be snivy here. Too many scummy people have gone after him to make sense in a world where he is scum with another partner

[gob]

And I’m just gonna accept you’re town probably even though a large part of me wants to kill you and avoid the possibility of losing to you

It will happen eventually. Everyone will lose to me at some point. I'll make sure of that.

Anyway I guess imm gonna start solvin and shit even though im not in the mood, i got nothing else going on and I don't enjoy anything else. Cause my football team is outta the playoffs which sux but its whatever.