Mini Normal 2317 - Postgame

[Doctor Drew]

Why not?

I guess I could be pushed to vote Bingle, still can't shake that they were pocketing me a bit.

[Celebloki]

Off the rip, I think I am fine for both. As much as it was paining me to do, I did start this morning re-reading this game (speed skimming certain parts). I think the recent cases against Bingle make a lot of sense, I was town binning Bingle, but like I said, I was a bit shook to still be alive. I can't help much shake that (maybe Bingle even) kept me alive because I was pocketed and I have been wanting to re-evaluate where I stand.

gob I am not as sure of, I think I'd prefer Bingle over gob. I'll continue reading.

HURT: Bingle
HURT: gob

[Celebloki]

I do also recognize that Kitty wasn't exactly subtle about his protective role, so he was probably the NK. They were probably hoping he was going to protect me, but clearly he protected Eira instead.

[Doctor Drew]

HURT: Bingle

Kinda lazy to go through my Snivy case and I feel it only makes sense to me anyways

[gob]

Sorry Taly but we should still lim your slot. You were c-wagon who died for mislim on elements.

gob where has this reasoning been all day

like you did not care about khaos being a counter wagon until i pointed it out and you still haven't even been pushing it until taly replaced in

First off, I didn't do anything because you pointed it out. That is just not how I ever approach the game regardless of alignment.
Secondly, I was always fine with killing Snivy or Khaos' slot. And the same reason on Khaos' wagon I'm pretty sure (not 100%) i used that exact same reasoning before too.

But yea when Taly replaced in I figured i would push it since its a new player.

[gob]

Why does it say hurt now?

[gob]

We definitely should not go Bingle. Bingle is one of the more towny slots in this game.

I think we need to stick to the plan and go Khaos here. I do still think Snivy is likely mafia but we're gonna let the game slip away if we

[gob]

VOTE: gob

I don't super want to kill khaos anymore given I think Taly has the capacity to obv town

That is a terrible reason to not vote someone.

[Sleepy Dragon]

Bingle (5): Dragon, Snivy, Naerys, Celebloki, Drew
gob (3): Dragon, Chell, Celebloki

[Sleepy Dragon]

We definitely should not go Bingle. Bingle is one of the more towny slots in this game.

I think we need to stick to the plan and go Khaos here. I do still think Snivy is likely mafia but we're gonna let the game slip away if we

I need more from you on this

[gob]

We definitely should not go Bingle. Bingle is one of the more towny slots in this game.

I think we need to stick to the plan and go Khaos here. I do still think Snivy is likely mafia but we're gonna let the game slip away if we

I need more from you on this

What more do you want? Seriously

[gob]

It's really simple

Khaos/Taly = main wagon yesterday
That wagon then died to Elements wagon (who is town)
Therefore it is worth going back and flipping Khaos.

Furthermore, Khaos/Taly flipping will practically confirm Naerys and Chell's alignment imo.

[Sleepy Dragon]

What more do you want? Seriously

I want 3 sentences on why Bingle is town

I want 3 sentences on why Taly/Khaos is scum

I want to know what the sentence about Snivy meant because it's not clear.

[Sleepy Dragon]

Furthermore, Khaos/Taly flipping will practically confirm Naerys and Chell's alignment imo.

WDYM?

[gob]

Furthermore, Khaos/Taly flipping will practically confirm Naerys and Chell's alignment imo.

WDYM?

Naerys and Chell were the two people who drove the Khaos wagon Day 1. So flipping Khaos will really shed light on their alignments.

[Sleepy Dragon]

So if it flips scum they're town and vice versa?

[gob]

What more do you want? Seriously

I want 3 sentences on why Bingle is town

I want 3 sentences on why Taly/Khaos is scum

I want to know what the sentence about Snivy meant because it's not clear.

Well I'm not really TRing Bingle in a heavy way. I think they could be scum with Khaos/Taly if that slot flips scum (as per #1830). However they are 100% not the vote today because Khaos gives way more info and is just as likely to hit scum.
A thing I think works in Bingle's favor is how willing they were to lim Elements yesterday. I feel like mafia would more likely TR Elements in that spot for later. Basically I read his Nov10-Nov13 and it feels like a towny EoD. Plus everything i've seen in real time seems solvy.

Taly/Khaos was the counter wagon yesterday. The wagon was strong and then it quickly died. This can indicate scum jumping off their partner, or convincing other townies to jump on someone else. In these scenarios, you almost always want to lim Khaos because it gives the most information (gives info on Naerys+Chell + all the people who jumped off for elements, which realistically is where a wolf probably is).

As for Snivy. I think they are most likely scum. But I am not 100%. After flipping Khaos/Taly I will most likely be 100% because of the info gained on Naerys + Chell.
So it makes more sense to go Khaos > Snivy.

My whole point about snivy though was, that if we start to CFD onto Bingle or me, we're going to lose. Because I do not trust town to win here. And I do not trust town because there are still plenty of people SRing me. Which means I'm either getting wolfed and town is siding with the wolves, or town is being dumb.

[gob]

So if it flips scum they're town and vice versa?

If Taly flips scum, it looks good for Naerys and Chell. Although I'll have to go and read again, since maybe it was a failed bus attempt. But more likely they're just both town in that scenario.

If Taly flips town, then I think Naerys is scum (off the top of my head) because Naerys started the wagon on Taly, then jumped off it, and then jumped back on after Chell hopped on. (Correct me if I'm wrong Naerys/Chell).

[Titus]

Bingle (5): Dragon, Snivy, Naerys, Celebloki, Drew
gob (3): Dragon, Chell, Celebloki

What the heck is this?

[gob]

Bingle (5): Dragon, Snivy, Naerys, Celebloki, Drew
gob (3): Dragon, Chell, Celebloki

What the heck is this?

Pretty sure its the HARM thing

[Bingle]

Sd’s Bingle case: Bingle is absent when actually vla and during the holiday season, and this is suspicious because Bingle is STILL THE PERSON WHO HAS DONE THE MOST SOLVING ITT.

You know what else is a thing you can check? Bingle’s engagement with the site as a whole, which… is low because Bingle has been fucking busy.

I’m fucking done with this. SD is not attempting to solve me, full stop. This narrative is godawful and fake as shit and if he’s town I am absolutely fine with this loss.

VOTE: Sd

[Bingle]

Bingle: somewhere said gob/Khaos is unlikely (i hope i remember it right)

Nah, that can’t be right. That would be solving and I’ve done none of that, according to SD and you.

But yeah, VCA tells me that when gamma tried to swing the ele wagon onto khaos with no time left in the day, that was probably not S/S.

[Bingle]

Off the rip, I think I am fine for both. As much as it was paining me to do, I did start this morning re-reading this game (speed skimming certain parts). I think the recent cases against Bingle make a lot of sense, I was town binning Bingle, but like I said, I was a bit shook to still be alive. I can't help much shake that (maybe Bingle even) kept me alive because I was pocketed and I have been wanting to re-evaluate where I stand.

gob I am not as sure of, I think I'd prefer Bingle over gob. I'll continue reading.

HURT: Bingle
HURT: gob

Don’t be dense. You were never the N1 kill. KT told us scum was informed of a town protective role.

[Bingle]

Bingle (5): Dragon, Snivy, Naerys, Celebloki, Drew
gob (3): Dragon, Chell, Celebloki

What the heck is this?

Scum shopping to mislim me.

[Celebloki]

Off the rip, I think I am fine for both. As much as it was paining me to do, I did start this morning re-reading this game (speed skimming certain parts). I think the recent cases against Bingle make a lot of sense, I was town binning Bingle, but like I said, I was a bit shook to still be alive. I can't help much shake that (maybe Bingle even) kept me alive because I was pocketed and I have been wanting to re-evaluate where I stand.

gob I am not as sure of, I think I'd prefer Bingle over gob. I'll continue reading.

HURT: Bingle
HURT: gob

Don’t be dense. You were never the N1 kill. KT told us scum was informed of a town protective role.

Yeah I realized right after I posted that that Kitty was the obvious kill, he made it no secret what he was. I'm just lucky he wasn't babysitting me at the time. I just wonder if he chose to babysit Eira cause he knew he was going down and purposely took him with him or something. He wasn't really calling Eira scum, he was calling Elements and SD scum.