OMGUS! Like nadroj said, we're just
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In post 16, nadroj15 wrote:In post 14, Carbondioxide wrote:
OMGUS! Like nadroj said, we're just"working together"... think of it as a merger, not a takeover.![]()
Vote: McStab
The slight buddying here is noted, which makes this vote slightly better than random.
UNVOTE: McStab
VOTE: carbondioxide
In post 18, KingdomAces wrote:McStab, If you are talking about diatomic oxygen, then you are turning just as much oxygen into carbon dioxide even though you're not named after it.
Carbondioxide, I thought it was fairly obvious that nadroj was saying that you were buddying with him. You even seemed to realize it by the end of the post. Why the presumably not?
VOTE: Carbondioxide
In post 22, Elias_the_thief wrote:In post 19, Carbondioxide wrote:
I'm confused (and a noobie)... why would anyone buddy with anyone unless they were scum-buddies?
My read of it was that nadroj was accusing me of buddying, I assumed with him but couldn't figure out why he'd do that (on my assumption that buddies = scum). By doing so he would have,by implication said that he and I were both scum. I couldn't work out why anyone would openly do that — out themselves as scum... hence my voting for him as he was, by my read, trying to make me look scummy andsimultaneously deflecting attention from himself.
These statements seem to be at odds. How was he deflecting attention from himself if he was implying his own guilt?
In post 27, Starbuckles wrote:CO2, if you are backtracking on what you previously thought then is there a reason your vote is still on nadroj?
In post 122, KingdomAces wrote:CO2, who is assuming Hoopla is town other than Demon Core?
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/posting.php?mode=quote&f=2&p=4317433]post 35[/url], KingdomAces wrote:Fair warning, the pressure votes on Hoopla are not going to accomplish anything.
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/posting.php?mode=quote&f=2&p=4324030]post 70[/url], KingdomAces wrote:Am I the only person to interpret Hoopla's post as "People are calling me crazy? I guess I'll prove them right." I can't claim to say why she did that, but I still see it as completely null.
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/posting.php?mode=quote&f=2&p=4321305]post 48[/url], Nadroj wrote:Hoopla is, with no other way to put it, Hoopla. He's known for doing crazy things, and you've been around this site for a while.
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=4326598#p4326598]post 23[/url], McStab wrote:Plus the vote on Hoopla is shameless sheeping/bandwagoning.
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=4326598#p4326598]post 23[/url], McStab wrote:Hoopla's not being helpful, but I feel as though that'll change.
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/posting.php?mode=quote&f=2&p=4323496]post 63[/url], McStab wrote:UNVOTE: Hoopla
Why exactly are you viewing the self vote as a declaration of guilt? I missed a link in your logic train bro.
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/posting.php?mode=quote&f=2&p=4323704]post 66[/url], McStab wrote:There is a feasible explanation for Hoopla-town, that she hasn't had time to post...
Hoopla, can you please take the game seriously and post? I know you are a capable town player so if you are town, would hate to lose you here...
In post 176, Hoopla wrote:In post 173, Scumhunter wrote:Hoopla, can you just be straightforward about why you self-voted.
You're not dim. It should be obvious. You don't need me to walk you through it.
In post 190, Dunhamganger wrote:KingdomAces wrote:I also have a reason for my actions regarding Hoopla, but I can't state it now.
Suuuuuuuure.
[/quote]BT wrote:You think Hoopla is scum partly due to McStab's case but you also think McStab is deflecting. Which is it?
In post 225, scooby wrote:Im serious, Scumhunter is SCUM
In post 282, Ranmaru wrote:
Dumhamhammer wrote:Unvote.Thorough and devastating analysis forthcoming.
Here, Scooby posts a 'list' yetDumhamhammernever addressed this.
In post 306, scooby wrote:In post 101, Demon Core wrote:In post 90, Robbnva wrote:@ demon core - why on earth are you posting all over the site and not posting in here?
Half baked and largely unexplained opinions and reads
Town: scooby, Hoopla, Kingdomphoneixwright (probably VR and squirrel man too)
Scum: McStab (this one is unexplained, deal with it), Scumhunter (every position is noncomittal and fencesittish, a lot of time is spent talking about Hoop's self vote reaching no conclusion, and yes-men tend to be scum)
VOTE: Scumhunter
As to why I think Demonhunter is town, all his posts are imbued with sincerity and an attitude of not giving a fuck about what people think of him. Scum never does this.
Also the post I just quoted has some awesome reads.
Starbuckles (7) - BT, Scumhunter, McStab, Ranmaru, Carbondioxide, Dunhumganger, Cartographer.
In post 413, KingdomAces wrote:If you say you're town unprovoked and without reasoning, it's bad play and null. If when ruling out who could be scum and who can't be, if you don't subconsciously rule out yourself it implies you either are not sure of your alignment, or you are actually scum.
In post 514, Hoopla wrote:
To apply this logic to the game we're playing now: If you're town, then it's highly likely scum were under little to no pressure throughout the majority of D1, which means we should expect players off the wagon or at the base of the lynch wagon (away from the riskier/more proactive votes). So, looking at our D1 wagon:
In post 515, KingdomAces wrote:Carbon, do you think it is more likely to find scum on or off the wagon?
In post 523, Dunhamganger wrote:I am now willing to lynch Carbon Dioxide.
Unvote, Vote: Carbon Dioxide.
In post 524, Dunhamganger wrote:Hint: What you've missed is "basic reading comprehension." Also "being town."
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/]post 9999[/url], Carbondioxide wrote: How is this obvscum still alive?
In post 531, Ranmaru wrote:
Why do you list Elias as a suspect off the wagon (before Hoopla and Scooby) yet read him as town here?
Why didn't you vote for pressure here?
Also, why is Scumhunter first in your 'gun' lineup, yet later on you have him off the 'wagon' suspects.
In post 414, Carbondioxide wrote:Meh... even I'm not happy with that analysis. I certainly don't feel happy enough with it to vote on it. I need to do some more reading/thinking.
In post 531, Ranmaru wrote:
...you state later on that you were getting Town Vibes from Hoopla. How and why (and when exactly) did you get these vibes? Quote/link please.
In post 531, Ranmaru wrote:
Since he used his shot, would you be willing to vote him ToDay, since you are still leaning Scum on him?
How are you reading me currently?
Also, have you ever done wagon analysis before? If not, why have you started doing so this game, and how does it help you?
In post 531, Ranmaru wrote:
Red, this is a weird reaction. Where exactly did you see that she called you scum, and for what reason?
Bold, why is Elias listed here when he is your town read? (Refer to above quote)
In post 546, Dunhamganger wrote:
Nowhere does she ever call you scum. Quit playing the "I'm a dumb noob" card.
In post 546, Dunhamganger wrote:
Carbon Dioxide wrote:Kingdom; Elias; Scooby; Hoopla — as my 'off the wagon' suspects (in a vague order of preference... I'm getting Townie-vibes from hoopla)
Immediately sucks up to the more experienced player using the same methodology he just questioned.
In post 548, Ranmaru wrote:
1.You have Elias second in a line up of four. Yet the thing that reads off to me is that you have Scooby right after him, who is null to you. Keeping in mind that Elias is a town read to you, so why are you putting him ahead of Scooby?
2.Underlined, we are way past RVS. You could have voted at that point, yet you didn't. Hmm, can you link me your first game?
3.Yet you stated in Post #497 that you didn't get a read yet. Why didn't you state Hoopla's 'townie vibes' from D1 there?
4.Bold, can you clarify this? How is this a scumtell?
5.Underlined, how does that work? Why didn't you mention that 'a strengthening of town vibes' made Elias scummier to you? Who exactly felt townier [than Elias] to you, and why?
In post 566, Dunhamganger wrote:There is a huge, enormous difference between saying a wagon is no good and saying someone is giving you "townie vibes." I'll leave you to discern the difference. Oh wait, you're the one who made the awful juxtaposition in the first place. Who am I voting for again?
Oh, good.
In post 613, Ranmaru wrote:Just a question. You were asking others if they would place their vote on DunHam, can you explain why you won't be doing this yourself? If it's a numbers thing, can you map that out?
In post 644, McStab wrote:July/Ranmaru: If you want a Dunham lynch to go through, by all means vote him. If both of you switched to him it'd be 4-4 and I would vote him over Kingdom.
In post 647, Dunhamganger wrote:Ugh, McStab is so not the play. But I'm not voting on a wagon with Scumhunter and McStab.
Vote: McStab
I'm going to be at work when deadline passes here. Bombs away.
In post 650, Hoopla wrote:This is dumb.
I won't be here when deadline hits, so I'm just gonna change now. We can't afford to no-lynch - honestly, any lynch is better than no-lynch, even though I don't agree with this one. But in the event McStab flips town, we can at least solidify Scumhunter being town and also pull back influence tomorrow from the numpties leading this wagon today.
VOTE: McStab
Sorry friend.
In post 654, SnakePlissken wrote:Oh for goodness sake, one of the scummiest hammers ever. I should know I'm a pass master at them.
In post 703, Ranmaru wrote:What do you think of my case on Hoopla?
In post 703, Ranmaru wrote:A)I take Snake as a very bad flaky townie. Mostly due to Scooby. I read around his games and they seem mostly similar, yet he posts slightly more content.
In post 703, Ranmaru wrote:1)Scumhunter, I give slight town points due to him just not wanting a lynch on Mcstab at all instead of just bussing for towncred.
In post 703, Ranmaru wrote:I feel he{Snake}was put in a comfortable position by Hoopla (Keep your vote where it is) and it gave him the chance to say "Sure, I like it there without giving a reason to do so in the first place".
In post 703, Ranmaru wrote:I want you to re-evaluate your stance on DumHammer though, as I do think he is very likely to be scum with Mcstab along with Hoopla.
In post 720, SnakePlissken wrote:I OK if we think we should do a mass claim today. I would vote for Hoopla, but I'm a bit nervous of her not being scum as I'm not convinced and I don't want me placing her at L-1 and some opportunistic scum hammering or "oops hammering"
In post 717, KingdomAces wrote:
I'll reevaluate my read on Dunham when everyone else posts their opinions. This is not me just being obtuse, I actually have a reason.
In post 748, Dunhamganger wrote:The only people who stand to gain from not claiming once a massclaim starts are scum.
In post 771, Scumhunter wrote:Carbon and Kingdom are the only ones left to claim right? I don't think it matters too much at this time lets just get done with the claiming so we can move on to what it means.
In post 789, Dunhamganger wrote:So you're saying a 1 Doc + VTs + 1-shot Mafia tracker is a pretty likely set-up here?
In post 844, KingdomAces wrote: There's no scum motivation behind saying one townsperson is likely scum if another townsperson flips scum.