Mini 1530 - Guyett's Paranoid Geology Trip GAME OVER

[Kazekirimaru]

/confirm

[Kazekirimaru]

VOTE: Antihero

Confirmation stage wagon is go

[Kazekirimaru]

VOTE: Benmage

Why the remorseful disposition in 34

And what's with the double vote?

[Kazekirimaru]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: toolenduso

This is a good vote.

[Kazekirimaru]

Hey tool, do you prefer your maps to show elevation relative to sea level, or is that superfluous in your opinion? Answer carefully.

[Kazekirimaru]

We're getting a Geology lesson as the game progresses? Fuck yeah!

Hey tool, do you prefer your maps to show elevation relative to sea level, or is that superfluous in your opinion? Answer carefully.

Uh...I juse use Google Maps. :p

That sounds like a geographer answer to me.

kill it with

magma

fire!

[Kazekirimaru]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: toolenduso

This is a good vote.

Piggybacking again, on a reach... tsk tsk.

Hi, I don't think we've met. I'm Kaze, nice to meet you.

I like to wagon things.

[Kazekirimaru]

kay

[Kazekirimaru]

Hey, tool.

The townie win condition. Tell me what it is. Word for word.

[Kazekirimaru]

Smooth, Guyett, adding the Vanilla Townie PM to the original post after I said that.

You do realize I'm taking that as mod-confirmed scum, right?

your post reminded me that I forgot to put a sample VT role PM in the opening posts

[Kazekirimaru]

Actually, never mind. Forgot Minis actually required a public VT PM.

Well, damn it.

[Kazekirimaru]

But, Teacher, I didn't tell him to quote. ;_;

All aboard the tool train!

[Kazekirimaru]

Kaze is pretty obviously town which sucks. Benmage too, though that doesn't suck.

The hell does that mean?

[Kazekirimaru]

L-3 is not "nothing". i only check forums 2-3 times per day, plenty of time for someone to sneak in and quick hammer you. but i'll listen to what you say.

VOTE: toolenduso

Folding to the whims of another player...

vote:naio

anything i can address? or is it this:

why is l-3 too close if a quick lynch goes down then we have a drastically lowered scum pool. If you actually think he is scum you shouldn't care about the speed of the lynch because any scum lynch is a good lynch. This post feel a lot like trying to distance oneself from a wagon early to absolve responsability, reads scum motivation.

thats backwards. more likely to get quick-lynched if they are town and scum throws in their votes.

Obviously upset over not being able to defend themselves. You mad you don't have a soapbox to stand on, scum? You're so desperate you actually attempt to find points to defend against. Goodness.

and yes, tool is my strongest scum right now - but not scummy enough to lynch on day 2.

Day 1, you mean? Regardless, if he's your strongest scum read, you obviously think he's scum.(dat logic; so amaze) Thus you're basically saying you don't want to lynch someone you think is scum. I don't think that flies with me. You're not thinking like a townie at all.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: naio

I want this strung up today. Make it happen.

[Kazekirimaru]

The naoi attacks are weak.

Is that so?

[Kazekirimaru]

Why is it so?

[Kazekirimaru]

Returning to that wagon because someone berated them for jumping off it is something I'd expect (noob)scum to do. That vote was pure appeasement.

[Kazekirimaru]

i'm vanilla town.

read my ISO. feels like you guys are bandwagoning, the only thing that i've been accused of doing scummy is not wanting to throw a vote on someone when they were L-3, which at the time felt completely reasonable to me. as i said in the past, he was my TOP scum read, but not high enough to warrant a lynch. again, i'm a newer player, once it was explained to me why it doesnt matter and it's worth putting the lynch on him (from both tool and in #76 from pinkmittens).. then i cast my vote.

that being said, if i do get lynched i'd look at cooldog for either bad town or scum. kaze also leaning more scum than town.

also getting a scum read on shos, look at his ISO for goodness sake.

Can we lynch this now?

[Kazekirimaru]

well, i've already given my reads and they remain kaze and cooldog especially after their followup posts. i dont know why no one except benmage is taking a step back and look at this objectively. and to those that are town that are calling me out, you are doing it with such conviction that you arent even going to be able to get any reads off of people's accusations towards me once i flip town. the scum that are either already voting for me or who will assuredly vote for me shortly will have a perfect defense of just joining in with the rest, and you will be -2 town tomorrow with 0 information to go on. you should know better to let everyone that is voting someone, especially the first day, to have discussion about it so once my role is confirmed you can use their posts for reads.

personally, I dont have any other defense to the fact that I'm town and I have nothing else that i can think of to convince you, so if this doesn't convince you, my "bah" post is just going to say i told you so.

Why did you claim so early?

[Kazekirimaru]

One person said anything akin to "let's just get the day over with" and that was me. One person. That's all it takes to get you to claim?

You're going into total-turtle mode. Defensive measures activated. You're afraid. Why?

[Kazekirimaru]

Hm.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: tool

Kay.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm flattered, but that was the real deal.

[Kazekirimaru]

Guyett locked the thread not 5 minutes after I posed that question, btw.

[Kazekirimaru]

And Guyett specifically said it was my POST that reminded him to put it up.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'd like to think my proverbial shit is pretty intact, shos.

[Kazekirimaru]

Though to be fair, I'd go for a TSO lynch, as well.

T names are just scumming it up today.

Except Taylor. Where'd EspeciallytheMastin go, anyway?

[Kazekirimaru]

Deal with it.

[Kazekirimaru]

Spoiler: stuff

as promised:

VOTE: Benmage

Why the remorseful disposition in 34

And what's with the double vote?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: toolenduso

This is a good vote.

Not really a big deal seeing as this is only the start of the day, but it bugs me. Their is no reason provided for why benmage is no longer a good vote, or why tool is a better one.

I like to wagon things.

I like to wagon scums.

Smooth, Guyett, adding the Vanilla Townie PM to the original post after I said that.

You do realize I'm taking that as mod-confirmed scum, right?

your post reminded me that I forgot to put a sample VT role PM in the opening posts

creating justification to stay on wagon.

All aboard the tool train!

I still don't really understand the underlying reason that he has for this tool wagon. He has none of his own reasons for voting. He just hopped on it early and has started advocating for it by saying, "jump on" and "quote your role PM!!!"

@Kaze. Conf. town might be an exaggeration, but he'd need serious brains & balls for that as scum. Strongest town read for sure.

or just fishing for mod kills... I have seen shit like this before... quite a few times.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: naio

I want this strung up today. Make it happen.

what made you disenchanted with the tool wagon? Especially because it is enough to call for a lynch.

i'm vanilla town.

read my ISO. feels like you guys are bandwagoning, the only thing that i've been accused of doing scummy is not wanting to throw a vote on someone when they were L-3, which at the time felt completely reasonable to me. as i said in the past, he was my TOP scum read, but not high enough to warrant a lynch. again, i'm a newer player, once it was explained to me why it doesnt matter and it's worth putting the lynch on him (from both tool and in #76 from pinkmittens).. then i cast my vote.

that being said, if i do get lynched i'd look at cooldog for either bad town or scum. kaze also leaning more scum than town.

also getting a scum read on shos, look at his ISO for goodness sake.

Can we lynch this now?

This is important. It more or less locks kaze into a position where the VT claim is wrong. Saying "can we lynch this" means that kaze cannot double back on his stance for claim related reasons. It also locks naio in a position where in order to seem town to kaze he has to prove his towniness instead of a lack of scumminess. Kaze's default position on naio is now that he is scum.

Hm.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: tool

Kay.

?????????????????????????????? this is where I started observing kaze. It didn't seem right that he asked so many questions to naio and was so sure as to call a lynch and then... this. Just to agree with ben? You went on to naio for less than you have now, the case on tool did not advance much, what happened to spur this vote switch?

If Benmage is scum, Kaze too is scum.

interesting, because at this point I could see it. Kaze does seem to take cues from ben.

Though to be fair, I'd go for a TSO lynch, as well.

what lynch are you not down for? I know I said that I don't like town reads this early, but it seems you are down for any lynch.

alright anyone who is voting tool tell me why.

good point...

I'm feeling like I'm going to vote kaze...

vote:kaze

Hey, CooLDoG, are you rubbish scum, or just rubbish town?

[Kazekirimaru]

Since he'll probably whine at me with no sparse misuse of ellipses if I don't, I should probably provide some sort of response.

what made you disenchanted with the tool wagon? Especially because it is enough to call for a lynch.

A stronger scumread. I thought that was clear.

?????????????????????????????? this is where I started observing kaze. It didn't seem right that he asked so many questions to naio and was so sure as to call a lynch and then... this. Just to agree with ben? You went on to naio for less than you have now, the case on tool did not advance much, what happened to spur this vote switch?

If you were observant in the slightest bit you'd understand my switch here. It wasn't for no reason. I'm not going to spell it out for you, though.

what lynch are you not down for? I know I said that I don't like town reads this early, but it seems you are down for any lynch.

My own, for starters.

I feel pretty okay about Jacob and shos. snifit too, to a lesser extent. Considering it's pretty early in the game I don't have many "I absolutely do not want to pursue this person's lynch" reads, which should be understandable.

[Kazekirimaru]

Where's your vote?

[Kazekirimaru]

we should probably leave kaze alive, since he'll just be killed by scum if he isn't scum. if he lives too long, that's just wifom, and scum wouldn't want to take that risk.

Or scum leave him alive so they wifom the town and set up a late game lynch scenario.

Don't worry about that. I won't be lynched.

[Kazekirimaru]

that being said, if kaze flips town, then GM is scum.

Explain? I wasn't feeling GM scum looking at her posts.

[Kazekirimaru]

How is foregoing the wagon of the Day to push other people a scum move?

The only situation where that makes sense as scum is if GM were pushing me in an attempt to counterwagon. And that would make you scum.

[Kazekirimaru]

Gm, I really have no interest in arguing with you, but suffice it to say you were shocking in Lock n' Stock so save your trash talk for when you actually play well.

Kaze's post is crap and I'm leaning Kaze-scum ATM.

Shos, I was basically trying to be an antagonising useless fuck and get reactions. Ben immediately jumped for it, which reads badly.

If you think I'm scum, vote me.

[Kazekirimaru]

Also please tell me where/when you went from "I think you're town, just not omg conftown" to "your posts suck you're scum and stuffs"

[Kazekirimaru]

._.

[Kazekirimaru]

I do!

[Kazekirimaru]

I totally forgot my direction and reads in this game. I'll give it a reread later.

UNVOTE:

Site outages, not even once.

[Kazekirimaru]

Here, have a vote.

VOTE: T S O

[Kazekirimaru]

I've played with you as both alignments. My observation of your scum game is that you are very lurky, you don't put your neck out on your reads or your comments, and you certainly don't make nice long posts of reasoning why you think certain things. The difference is rather stark, and especially now that Watch Your Step is over.

I don't think you'd write it as scum.

ETL

I must disagree on the point that GM's activity levels are alignment indicative. She just kinda posts when she feels like it regardless of alignment.

The rest idk yet

[Kazekirimaru]

Good. Maybe I'll live past Night 1 ;D

[Kazekirimaru]

Kaze

READ THE GAME

Why are you directing your ire at me, miss? I read the game and placed my vote accordingly. TSO has exhibited an astonishing lack of goodposting.

What, you upset I'm not voting snifit?

[Kazekirimaru]

Does anyone notice how he refuses to quote? He can't because he's talking out of his ass.

Playstyle differences, that's weak.

[Kazekirimaru]

Current thoughts on TSO, GM? Aside from him possibly being "impossible to read".

[Kazekirimaru]

I am not lazy >:

SO, yeah. Snifit off the table? I'm cool with that. See you post game, gm.

The votes reset soo

VOTE: T S O

Kay then.

[Kazekirimaru]

Kaze, I know I've been mia... will fix soon. It aint TSO... he's made that obvious.

I'll listen when you come back around.

Happy scumday!

[Kazekirimaru]

@Taylor:

If I may bulletpoint summarize the recent case,

- Supposed different mindset.
- Vote first; justification after.
- Lack of contribution.
- Pushing and subsequently faltering on Naio.
- Weak reads.
- Appeasement.
- Bad reaction to gm flip.

Two questions:

How exactly is voting first and justifying after scummy? Is this more of a psychobabble thing?

What exactly was scummy about his push on Naio? I pushed on him as well, I believe. Was it the timing or...?

[Kazekirimaru]

CooLDoG, thank you for being a shining exemplar of how one can be complete rubbish at this game despite playing for years.

[Kazekirimaru]

I feel left out of your nice big quote wall.

[Kazekirimaru]

SHOS.

I AM TAYLOR YOU NUT.

So yeah, CooLDoG or TSO lynch please.

[Kazekirimaru]

Get wrecked, lamecakes. I'm town.

Merry Christmas <3

[Kazekirimaru]

VOTE: CooLDoG

L-1

[Kazekirimaru]

Hai. I'll get to this in a little bit.

[Kazekirimaru]

Kay so analyzing the Nightkill in the standard fashion of "Who was Benmage a threat to?" is most likely just going to end up WIFOMy dribble and null anyway since Benmage just being around was a threat to the scum.

But looking at it another way, Benmage was calling me conftown all day yesterday, so sending him out took out the one person who would have WK'd and tried to dismantle any wagons against me. So I think whoever killed Benmage wants a clear, uninterrupted shot at me today.

Who did I go after yesterday?

Anti(RVS), Benmage, tool, naio, tool, TSO, CooLDoG(for the lynch) were my votes yesterday.

Of the three - I aimed hard at tool with my mod-interrupted gambit and claimed he "might as well be confscum" the way Guyett closed the thread down after my question.

I made a case against naio but I pressured him with less fervor than others yesterday.

And then TSO where I just kinda voted TSO because he gave me the bad feels all day.

I think of them the most likely to want Benmage dead and me lynched would be tool. Benmage also was suspicious of tool towards the end of yesterday so chances are if I pushed tool today Benmage would have been on board with it. tool needs to get out. He's scum, and I should have stuck with it yesterday.

So,

VOTE: tool

[Kazekirimaru]

What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?

[Kazekirimaru]

What I say/mean is that I think he's scum, but worst case scenario he's a harmful townie.

Do you believe they should be lynched regardless of which one of these categories they fall into?

actually that makes more sense

VOTE: pink

actually that makes more sense
VOTE: TSO

What's up?

[Kazekirimaru]

VOTE: Penguin_alien

CONFSCUM HERE BAWYZ

...isn't it a little late in the game for derpvoting?

[Kazekirimaru]

V/LA till Jan. 2

[Kazekirimaru]

Still kinda LA, do stuff later. Around, though.

[Kazekirimaru]

Hai Jingle

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm not fond of mittens.

But maybe that's just the bloodlust from reading the word "discredit" 75,000 times talking.

(Nah, I'm not fond of mittens.)

[Kazekirimaru]

Do you still think your reasoning in #414 seems likely?

I don't see why it wouldn't be. Though, I must admit it was stupid of me to say that before tool showed us what direction he was going to go today. Even if I were right on the money he could have came into the thread ready to to exactly what I said, saw my post, and switched gears accordingly. Never know, eh? That said, I'm looking around. You don't look particularly good right now, and I'm not up for lynching TSO today.

[Kazekirimaru]

Yeah, yeah. That case was pretty lame. I'm mainly voting tool now because I still have a bad gut feel about him, but I'm looking around still.

TSO? The exchange between you and him. I feel like he's town.

[Kazekirimaru]

Yeah, yeah. That case was pretty lame. I'm mainly voting tool now because I still have a bad gut feel about him, but I'm looking around still.

Hmm ok, that's weak for D-2.

TSO? The exchange between you and him. I feel like he's town.

... I'll reformulate my case against him tomorrow.

Huh. Your first line here reads like you suspect me as scum, but your second line reads that you want to convince me to see your points against TSO.

Why are you trying to convince someone you suspect to be scum of anything?

[Kazekirimaru]

Feel free to compile a list of grievances with my play for me to debunk whilst I reread and attempt to put my soul into this game again.

[Kazekirimaru]

Eww...start with this defensive attitude.

You call it defensive, I'm just trying to be compliant. I've deafened far too many townie ears by being a douche and not trying to level with them.

[Kazekirimaru]

Compliant is probably the wrong word. More like agreeable. Cooperative?

[Kazekirimaru]

Jingle replaced Emerald Kitty whom I wasn't overly impressed with. Since he replaced in I've liked the slot more. The effort seems genuine. I like the case on shos. Also I really don't see why they'd go to any length arguing with you about town-Kaze if they were scum, so, I can say I'm comfortable with them around though I would suggest they read some of my non-marathon games just because hearing them make a case based on marathons, even on me, makes me cringe a bit.

Naio has fallen off my radar a bit as of late. I should probably be wary of that. I find it odd that they're scumreading me despite having the same scumreads as me and claiming they eased up on me earlier thanks to Benmage. Overall unimpressive, I could probably get behind a vote on them if it keeps up.

Taylor has been aggrivating me all game solely for being what appears to be a one-headed hydra. Mastin's been back for a few days and I'm still waiting for a coalition effort from that slot. I haven't any decent reads there regarding them as a whole, but if I had to lean one way or the other based on what I have to work with I'd say it looks more like ETL town than scum. Needs more content.

Also,

unvote

stale read is stale.

[Kazekirimaru]

Because I forgot why I thought he was so scummy. If it doesn't stick in my head, chances are it's not a good read. Though I'll admit I lost my focus for a while, so if I reread and remember, back it goes.

[Kazekirimaru]

Not sure I support the PM vote.

[Kazekirimaru]

@Kaze, who do you support as a good candidate for lynching?

I'm back on tool, honestly. His play here, now that I'm comparing ISOs and such, feels a lot like his play in the Newbie game ETL modded where he was scum and I was town. Plus his "Christmas vote" on CooLDoG just...makes me cringe. I must admit my NK analysis earlier today was rubbish, though. Don't know what I was thinking. Still.

[Kazekirimaru]

Kazr, why do you feel the meta is similar? What vote is the Christmas vote? Why is it so bad? What post is your NK analysis on? If that analysis was off, why can't the meta analysis?

That's what I was having trouble articulating. I'm not good at all at reading tool analytically. I just kept getting bad feelings. I was having difficulties getting solid reads this game and motivation was disappearing in a hurry. But now I think he's town. More later.

The Christmas vote was here in 400 and it a main point of contention for me as it's just a frivolous thing.

The aforementioned NK analysis was in 414 and was probably 99.9% confirmation bias.

567, 568...lots of wall. I'll read through this more thoroughly sometime. A cursory glance looks like a pretty solid case on TSO.

Kaze, it really feels like you're just trying to find a reason to read me as scum rather than actually reading me as scum. What exactly about my play in ETL's newbie do you find similar to this, and why is it something I would do as scum but not as town?

Okay. More now!

I really don't think you're scum this game. It was little parallels I saw - parallels between this game and Newbie 1450. Like the semi-silly tones in RVS rather than attempting to shorten it, the way you sometimes passive-aggressively nitpick people you're arguing with like for attitude or misspelling your name, and such things like that. But the more I read and think about it I grow more and more sure that these are all just playstyle quirks. Your play is actually much different this game from a scumhunting standpoint. In the aforementioned Newbie you were more apt to tossing questions in every direction and not really following up whereas here you're focusing on one or two people at a time with probing question lines. Yeah. It's funny, actually. I went through the games to solidify my scumread on you and I ended up reading you as town.

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Anyway, TSO? I have him as a very, very slight lean town due to mainly his "I don't give a fuck" attitude, but yeah. PM's case looks pretty spiffy. I'll think more on it.

[Kazekirimaru]

Kaze, please get off that fenceshit within 24 hours. Thanks.

I'll probably end up voting TSO. What's with the Jingle vote business?

[Kazekirimaru]

You jump from TSO's actions are town to wanting to vote him pretty quickly. That's pretty scummy.

Reads change and stuff. Think it makes me scum?

PM's case is good.

That was the point where I stopped believing you, Kaze.

Sure, sure. Keep with the theatre, eh?

Not sure I support the PM vote.

I'm used to town-Kaze being decisive. This isn't it.

Sorry to disappoint?

Eww...start with this defensive attitude.

You call it defensive, I'm just trying to be compliant. I've deafened far too many townie ears by being a douche and not trying to level with them.

Is this really true, Kaze?

Yep.

JS/Naio/PM/Kaze is what I've got as lynchable.

Who is JS?

Tso has started to wierd me out... I will explain asap

And...who're you?

[Kazekirimaru]

I made a post in here but apparently it disappeared.

Basically I change reads because I do, I don't understand scum-Jingle, and JS - I forgot you exist. I'm still not scum, though.

[Kazekirimaru]

Oh, and Jingle, I don't understand how you can possibly have a null read on TSO. Apathy and AtE aren't alignment indicative to you? Confused.

[Kazekirimaru]

VOTE: TSO

[Kazekirimaru]

PM's case swayed me. As you'll note, my townread on TSO was never very strong.

[Kazekirimaru]

All of it? Selfvoting, reaction tests with no follow up, calling me scum while townreading me supposedly, Benmage scum = Kaze scum theory with no explanation given, changing reads for no apparent reason, consistently taking shots at Benmage while never voting him, jumping at people who vote him, et cetera. I'm ready to see TSO hang.

[Kazekirimaru]

All of this occurred prior to you townreading him. Did you just not notice this prior to PM's case?

Pretty much, yeah.

[Kazekirimaru]

You know what? I'd like to dance with you a bit while we're at it, Titus.

How'd you go from this:

Please trust me on TSO town for now... You two look textbook TvT.... TSO this goes for you two as well. If the three of us are alive at the end game, I'll sort you two out then. If you two keep having tunnel vision on each other, scums will be prime to take you both to the end game to be reliable votes on each other. Just table each other as scum reads for now. Plus, you gain a lot more information with associatives when the target is actually talking about someone else without pulling teeth.

To this:

VOTE: TSO

Because of this:

Tso has started to wierd me out because a) He has Kaze as a nullread but only says scummy thing about him but for one point. B) His Taylor read. One post usually doesn't make a townread. C) the comment as to who is lynchable struck me as off d) the questions he asks Kaze "Is this true?", what else is he going to say but yeah.

Eh?

I mean, are the points outlined above really enough for you to switch reads on TSO in such a hurry? Looks rather flimsy to me. What's more, you're scumreading me for switching it up on TSO when you're essentially doing the same thing.

[Kazekirimaru]

I gave it my best shot, ain't no way I'm getting out of this. Call this scum caught, guys. Push me harder.

All systems go!

[Kazekirimaru]

Town 7-shot Vigilante.

Disappear.

[Kazekirimaru]

That's not the point.

[Kazekirimaru]

Hey.

I don't think I agree with your current vote.

[Kazekirimaru]

oh crap he's the conftown isn't he
UNVOTE:

I'm shittin my pants this game

Damn it. You're scum too, aren't you? Ugh.

[Kazekirimaru]

Make it happen, then. Let's see you try.

[Kazekirimaru]

Pick one person in the list you're scumreading.

Maybe Jingle. But nah, not interested.

Shos voted the conftown. Kaze seems to be waffling on the conftown. I'm frankly confused as fuck.

Titus is conftown. There's no two ways about that.

[Kazekirimaru]

PEdit: Which is why 651 confused the fuck out of me.

I was pointing out the silliness. I'm not trying to lynch the conftown O.o

[Kazekirimaru]

So, how about that TSO lynch, eh?

[Kazekirimaru]

i am aligned pretty closely to benmage's reads from #344, with the exception that i have tool leaning more scum than he did. That being said, i'd like to see some discussion on EK & taylor.

Town:
Naio *
Benmage
snifit
T S O *
Kazekirimaru
shos



Suspicious:
PinkMittens
toolenduso
Taylor (EspeciallyTheLies + Mastin2)

PoE scum:
JacobSavage

Slight scum:
Emerald Kitty (Malakittens + GuyInFreezer) *

Strongest Scum read:
CooLDoG

Most confident in my Town reads... everything else is weakish.

But I don't know if it's that easy.

[Kazekirimaru]

Question is why kill Naio over the mod-confirmed townie?

[Kazekirimaru]

You're seeing what you want to see, Titus.

[Kazekirimaru]

I really don't know. I'm off my track.

[Kazekirimaru]

I thought I was resolved on tool but after the flips I keep second guessing myself there. And on Taylor. I'm frustrated beyond measure right now.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm not totally clear on how this works, but I guess I'll learn by doing.

What exactly do you mean by hyperness, and how is it indicative or alignment?

[Kazekirimaru]

I can understand that.

The most puzzling thing to me right now is that two people that I think may be scum were off the TSO wagon yesterday.

tool's last minute turnaround, decision, and hammer on TSO makes him scum.

[Kazekirimaru]

JacobSavage and Jingle. The former because he's posted very little if any pertinent information or scumhunted in my opinion; the latter because he kept far away from the TSO wagon the whole time and chose to comment/complain about TSO's abrasive attitude more than his play. I think one or the other may have been WKing. Both is unlikely but anything's possible.

I'm not sure if there is a relationship between the two. Jingle for certain kept distance from tool, as well. He pretty much just commented on shos for most of yesterday. Do you see something?

[Kazekirimaru]

That's possible.

Who among the three you mentioned do you think is most likely scum?

[Kazekirimaru]

PM and tool, respectively.

[Kazekirimaru]

PM's case on TSO was pretty epic. Wrong, but still epic. I don't think scum could make that case and really sound like they believed every word of it without actually believing every word of it. tool for reasons mentioned earlier.

And that's debatable WIFOMyness.

[Kazekirimaru]

To be fair I completely forgot this game had plurality lynching.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm not so comfortable with a NL to massclaim idea outside of an Open game where we have an idea of what to expect. Maybe it's just paranoia, but the last time I entertained this idea outside of like Matrix 6 scum had a lynch reducer and would have completely destoyed the town in LyLo had I not just yololynched the last scum. The fact that this idea seems to have just instantly caught on makes me worried.

[Kazekirimaru]

We've plenty of time to think about this. I'm still pretty apprehensive about the NL proposal.

[Kazekirimaru]

No.

[Kazekirimaru]

MyLo, yes.

[Kazekirimaru]

Actually, on second thought, I don't mind a massclaim. Popcorn? Titus picks the first goer.

[Kazekirimaru]

Actually, on second thought, I don't mind a massclaim. Popcorn? Titus picks the first goer.

[Kazekirimaru]

Well, Jingle?

[Kazekirimaru]

Massclaim. Proposed order.

[Kazekirimaru]

It's normal. That's why Guyett had to put up the VT sample.

[Kazekirimaru]

At least, that's my understanding.

[Kazekirimaru]

Why are you making such a big deal out of this?

[Kazekirimaru]

You sound frightened.

Working on a fakeclaim, perhaps?

[Kazekirimaru]

Nice deflection.

Goodness gracious. Every time I feel the slightest bit comfortable in even a fraction of my reads, someone has to scum it up all over again.

[Kazekirimaru]

'nilla townie

[Kazekirimaru]

So, I suppose Titus's claim is all that's left.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm willing to let ETL get herself situated as a solitary head before we bust out the pitchforks.

[Kazekirimaru]

ETL, why did Mastin decide to leave?

[Kazekirimaru]

How about :

Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Goon
Town Jailkeeper
Town 1-Shot BP
5 Vanilla Townies.

That seems fairly balanced to me....

HAH

VOTE: JS

Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney amounts of inconsistency, motherfucker!

[Kazekirimaru]

I want you lynched regardless, so

[Kazekirimaru]

It's because I dislike your face.

[Kazekirimaru]

Congrats Titus, shos and ETL.

Are you insinuating here that our IC is in the scumteam?

[Kazekirimaru]

Mm...okay.

Good game.

[Kazekirimaru]

I have to say, the thing that killed my drive this game was all the lurking. Now that I'm reading the QTs, I see that was on purpose.

Well then.