Steelers fans tend to play rough, and mafia play rough, so...
VOTE: TheDominator37
OK, got that out of my system.
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UNVOTE:
Catching up, 10 pages shouldn't be too bad.
In post 17, Thesp wrote:Hello everyone! I tend to be less active on weekends, so I'm just checking in quickly here. I would like to know three things of everyone:
1) How much Mafia have you played before (in person or online)?
2) How active are you typically in a Mafia game? That is, is there sort of a posts per day frequency that's approximately typical for you?
3) Are you scum?
In post 78, Alchemist21 wrote:In post 77, RadiantCowbells wrote:Suppose Firebringer flips Town. What do you make of Thesp's post in that case?
Still bad for trying to shove us back in RVS.
So you're going to scumread thesp regardless of Firebringer's flip.
Why is All Alone's vote bad?
Because it's a naked vote onto one of my other scumreads right after I FoSed one of the scum.
You are aware scum very frequently RVS each other, yes?
What? It's bad because he voted Thesp after you voted Firebringer? That's crappy reasoning.
Also, someone actually looked into games a while back and found scum don't often RVS each other. The site meta may have shifted a bit because of that thread, but it's certainly not common enough to automatically assume that if someone flips scum their RVS vote is their partner.
VOTE: RadiantCowbells
Firebringer may still be scum, but Cowbells is trying unnaturally hard to paint Thesp as scummy no matter what, and her logic is reachy as hell.
In post 88, RadiantCowbells wrote:In post 87, All Alone wrote:In post 56, Thesp wrote:In post 55, pistachi0n wrote:In post 51, Firebringer wrote:Sometimes a joke is just a joke.
Usually it is, but it's still worth investigating.
This is a very interesting remark from someone who claimed scum.
This comment from Thesp looks like scumhunting but really isn't. He's not analyzing Pistachi0n's alignment, he's not asking her anything meaningful. It's like information instead of analysis, except it's not even informative.
VOTE: Thesp
Yes, exactly.
Further, he doesn't place a vote. He's just all "interesting remark" and lets it go.
Unfortunately, Alchemist is an asset to scum regardless of his alignment so he's going first. Not taking risks with players like this ever again.
In post 181, Thesp wrote:[total aside]
In post 171, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why the hell would I tell my scumread why I think they're scum?
It warms my heart to see someone else expressing this notion, when I feel like saying this nearly every game to someone. [/total aside]
In post 241, All Alone wrote:In post 237, Firebringer wrote:So far I think Nether and Raidant are most likely scum or at least one. If only one then I have no clue on the other. Perhaps dupin.
Firebringer seems to be trying to find a scum pair. If he were scum, he would definitely be aware that there are in fact three scum in this setup:
I think this is a legitimate town-slip from Firebringer.
In post 290, eventi wrote:I tried posting from my phone on my trip home from vacation at a rest stop... let's try to not read into what it's obviously a mistake.
RC and Nether are butthurt that I attacked them and TheDevistator is just a clown, but Thesp is calculated and manipulative. When I am lynched and flip town remember how I got here.
In post 267, pistachi0n wrote:Also, Alchemist's vote on Duppin was grasping at straws. Maybe he's seeing something I'm not. I looked through his Iso expecting some glaringly obvious statement that he was scum, but the rest was pretty towny. I agree with his analysis on Thesp/RC. What's up with the Duppin vote, Alchemist? Why's he scummier than anyone else in the game?
In post 296, Firebringer wrote:Also @All Alone yeah I guess I missed that. Ummm my bad? Or good? Incompetence made for my benefit lol
In post 241, All Alone wrote:In post 237, Firebringer wrote:So far I think Nether and Raidant are most likely scum or at least one. If only one then I have no clue on the other. Perhaps dupin.
Firebringer seems to be trying to find a scum pair. If he were scum, he would definitely be aware that there are in fact three scum in this setup:
I think this is a legitimate town-slip from Firebringer.
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In post 261, davesaz wrote:I'm all caught up, now I need to think about it a bit.
Off the top of my head I'm getting scum vibes that match with Thesp's really well. That makes it feel too easy, so I think more digging is needed.
In post 297, davesaz wrote:In post 290, eventi wrote:I tried posting from my phone on my trip home from vacation at a rest stop... let's try to not read into what it's obviously a mistake.
RC and Nether are butthurt that I attacked them and TheDevistator is just a clown, but Thesp is calculated and manipulative. When I am lynched and flip town remember how I got here.
What are your reads on RC and Nether as a result of your interactions with them?
Can you quote Thesp being manipulative, or misrepresenting the facts?
TheDominator37 wrote:In post 463, Netherspite wrote:@Persivul
I decided that he's just a newbtown for now. May as well change that opinion later.
However, you asked the right question.
@TheDominator37
Elaborate on the results of your gambit please.
I did
Not if you and he are the other scum...TheDominator37 wrote:Knew it just like I said
That now clears thesp's name
In post 598, Persivul wrote:eventi - you bastard (assuming you're telling the truth)!Well done though, and I still don't think nether's case was good.
In post 599, Persivul wrote:In post 594, Netherspite wrote:@Persivul
Please do not disappear, I'm curious about your opinion on the 'flip'.
Assuming he's scum, there's at most one scum on his wagon, and likely not even that. I have to agree with duppin that, excluding me, it will be a decent town block to work from.
In post 602, RadiantCowbells wrote:The rapport between eventi and Persivul is way too casual for scumbuddies. I don't think that Percy's scum.
I actually want to hit up Dominator the most for that "clear's Thesp's name" comment. That feels way more like a grab for towncred than anything else, especially with a partner down D1.
And FYI, the main reason I jumped off Eventi was that I thought there were better lynches. He wasn't explicitly a townread of mine, and I'd probably have hit that up in the next few days.
Also
I'd prefer my own lynch over TheDominator37 because it will provide more information to the town + our personality clash with eventi will stop negatively affecting town overall performance.
What the fuck is this?
In post 605, Netherspite wrote:In post 601, eventi wrote:And off my mafia brothers will please do me a solid and DON'T kill Nether tonight... I don't think I can handle being in the dead thread with him alone.
HahaYeah please don't
In post 610, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like, the reason you prematurely claim is so your partner doesn't slip up in some way with his knowledge of your alignment.
And Eventi feels way too happy going into the grave, like he's set up his partner to win.
In post 612, Netherspite wrote:I was always insisting and will always insist thattown MAY desire to get lynched over someone elseand thatinformation on D1 > all. You can lynch me for that if you like. It's nothing new for me to be mislynched for my opinion. But I will keep saying it, I don't care if you don't agree. I'm really tired of arguing about that. That's my playstyle, that's my logic, that's my opinion. Deal with it.
Btw,eventiwas very good lynch because he was both scum and information-providing flip.
In post 617, eventi wrote:In post 615, Ankamius wrote:I'm liking Nether less and less as time goes on for all this emphasis on information from lynches.
Sadly, he's proven town in twilight
In post 622, Netherspite wrote:Speaking of the flip analyzing... I tend to agree that alchemist looks bad after that flip.
Ankamius (ex quaroath) is town.
Persivul (ex pmysterious) is null with scum lean.
All alone is town.
Duppin is likely town.
Firebringer is scum lean.
Others are mystery so far.
Need to think.
In post 827, All Alone wrote:
I finddavesazscummy because he seems to be avoiding stepping on anyone's toes as much as possible. The only time I've seen him give a scumread at all was in 405 when he put eventi at L-2. I haven't seen any scumreads from him at all today, which indicates that he's more concerned with survival than lynching scum.
In post 827, All Alone wrote:In post 769, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why exactly do you scumread Daves and Thesp and what's your read on Percivul?
Thesphas avoided the Persivul wagon today. Unlikely behavior coming from someone who explicitly called a scumteam with the PMysterious slot on it yesterday. It would make sense if he changed his mind on the slot's alignment since Persivul replaced in, but he hasn't:
In post 776, Thesp wrote:I don't hate the Persivul wagon and wouldn't fight it
It'd also make sense if he had a better vote, but he doesn't. His push on Alchemist in 824 is mostly semantics, and I have no idea how it's supposed to be indicative of scum-Alchemist at all. Just like with the pistachi0n comment it comes off like he's trying to push someone for making a "mistake", rather than trying to find their alignment.
Because of all these things, I don't think Thesp's push on PMysterious was genuine.
In post 865, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Anyway, this game continues to give me the feeling that most of the high activity players are scum.
VOTE: Davesaz
Let's see where this goes.
In post 871, Alchemist21 wrote:You haven't given a case on me either beyond the results of your supposed gambit.
In post 887, TheDominator37 wrote:
He hadn't posted for 48 hours and then BOOM he was prodded and is active for 10 minutes and goes back to lurking
In post 911, Alchemist21 wrote:@Davesaz, did you ever read Eventi's 410? You never commented on it if you did.
In post 410, eventi wrote:
The way Thesp :highfive: s everyone who agrees with him, and always adds me into every decision is what I find manipulative; I've since moved my vote to TheDominator since I don't think there's anyone else looking at Thesp at all.
In post 459, davesaz wrote:Some quick notes.going from memory
I can accept correct+reasonable does not imply town.. But I don't see a wagon being possible today.Will need to re-read Thesp in that light
In post 459, davesaz wrote:
Taking my own advice, high activity level doesn't imply town (I have been in many games where scum was in the top 5 posters either in terms of #posts or post length).and Thesp's activity is a lot more superficial than I remembered.This prompted me to take a look,
VOTE: Thesp
In post 935, Alchemist21 wrote:In post 926, davesaz wrote:In post 410, eventi wrote:
The way Thesp :highfive: s everyone who agrees with him, and always adds me into every decision is what I find manipulative; I've since moved my vote to TheDominator since I don't think there's anyone else looking at Thesp at all.
Explanation of Thesp from eventi.
In post 459, davesaz wrote:Some quick notes.going from memory
I can accept correct+reasonable does not imply town.. But I don't see a wagon being possible today.Will need to re-read Thesp in that light
Going from memory of that post, I make a note to re-read Thesp.
In post 459, davesaz wrote:
Taking my own advice, high activity level doesn't imply town (I have been in many games where scum was in the top 5 posters either in terms of #posts or post length).and Thesp's activity is a lot more superficial than I remembered.This prompted me to take a look,
VOTE: Thesp
After re-reading Thesp, I don't like his posting and vote him.
So 410 didn't make you reconsider your vote on Eventi? From what I got out of your vote on Eventi, you were voting him because you didn't agree with his reasons for scumreading Thesp.
In post 933, Ankamius wrote:I'm also rapidly realizing that I've been glancing over davesaz's posts every time he's posted since I replaced in and not once have I gotten a town feeling from any of them.
In post 941, duppin wrote:Thesp, why are you not prepared to vote davesaz?
In post 949, TheDominator37 wrote:Your push on me and eventi's lynch. And I think ivul is town tbh
In post 953, duppin wrote:In post 950, davesaz wrote:In post 941, duppin wrote:Thesp, why are you not prepared to vote davesaz?
Same comment I made to Ank. It would really help me to read you if your criteria for scum reads made sense.
I am sorry, but did you quote the wrong post? I did not talk about anyone being scum.
In post 954, TheDominator37 wrote:In post 951, davesaz wrote:In post 949, TheDominator37 wrote:Your push on me and eventi's lynch. And I think ivul is town tbh
You think who is town? The typo (??) is making it hard to identify.
Ivul is town
In post 962, RadiantCowbells wrote:I find it difficult to believe that he didn't really understand Ivul = persivul.
In post 963, duppin wrote:I scum read people for all kinds of reasons. I do not look for a specific thing. I have no idea what you were trying to accomplish with that question. If you wish to get a read on me, you should check my ISO.
In post 1326, Ankamius wrote:UNVOTE: Netherspite
I think I need to reset. #1284 from Thesp is hands down the scummiest single post in the entire game;
In post 1375, Ankamius wrote:
Davesaz's vote on me is lazy, but what strikes me as weird about it is how little it looks like he cares. Either he's just town that doesn't give a shit or he's scum on a wagon that's mostly town. I don't see a scumteam not putting in a lot of effort to get me lynched if they're going to go all out in wagoning me.
In post 1434, Fluminator wrote:Dave, do you think the doc should claim right now?