Mini 1697 - a Re-balanced Game of Mafia - GAME OVER

[Ankamius]

Spoiler:

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I think Dave is the best bet for now. If I get time and clear my head I'll look some things back over, but right now I'm still clouded in my thoughts.

I could totally go with that. I still don't like Ankamius, but davesaz is just

terribad

.

I am town. Where do we go from there?

I'd love to hear your thoughts, and fairly pronto.

2. His All Alone suspicion in that post is bogus. I don't understand why he'd condemn All Alone for taking so long to take a side in the debate when the latter ended up taking my side in the end. It makes very little sense for a scumpartner to wait until it's nearly inevitable that I get lynched to come to my defense. He was trying to discredit all the lifelines I had to make sure I get lynched.

I'm unclear - are you suggesting that as scum I wouldn't simply lynch you when I had the chance? Also, do you think All Alone was avoiding taking a stance between you and Netherspite?

No, I don't think All Alone was avoiding taking a stance. I think he was just AFK for a couple days and

couldn't

give a stance.

And yes, you wouldn't lynch me while you had the chance because that would be unnecessary. With the catfight going on at the time, bringing undue attention to yourself as scum is a very bad idea.

You think All Alone simply read past what was being said on Thursday and Friday when he posted on Friday, or wasn't interested in what was being said there? I'm explicitly talking about his Friday post, not being gone over the weekend.

Also, what do you think of davesaz's 4th vote on you here?

I think it's basically null since the game was barely getting out of its apathetic rut.

Davesaz's vote on me is lazy, but what strikes me as weird about it is how little it looks like he cares. Either he's just town that doesn't give a shit or he's scum on a wagon that's mostly town. I don't see a scumteam not putting in a lot of effort to get me lynched if they're going to go all out in wagoning me.

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Netherspite

I still think this is the best play for today.

Other than Thesp (kinda) and davesaz (I don't consider his vote on me a stance; it's WAY too lazy), everyone else has had a pretty one-sided stance one way or the other on the Netherspite vs me fight. If Nether was town, I'd expect the scumteam would be positioning more to ride out and see who gets lynched, and then push the other tomorrow as that would be the path of least resistance.

[davesaz]

Davesaz's vote on me is lazy, but what strikes me as weird about it is how little it looks like he cares. Either he's just town that doesn't give a shit or he's scum on a wagon that's mostly town. I don't see a scumteam not putting in a lot of effort to get me lynched if they're going to go all out in wagoning me.

I replied to this concern, from you and others, in 1337. Work has me constrained to something like 10% of normal capacity. I looked at the game state, decided who I thought looked scummier from scumslipgate, and voted it. The brief comment I made was quite literally all I had time for.

I don't really have a clue who is scum atm. My methods rely almost exclusively on having a scum flip to associate from. Occasionally someone's behavior or an outright slip will help. Sometimes I can tell by the pattern of attacks or votes on someone I think is clearly town. But to really dial in on it, I need that flip.

[Netherspite]

@Ankamius

There were enough lurkers. I'd rather expect one scum to be on each wagon and one to be off wagons. Or two scum to be off wagons.
I'll check who was on which wagons.

[Netherspite]

Actually only two non confirmed town off both of our wagons are alchemist and thesp.
I town read both of them. But I really really doubt all of the scum were on two competing town wagons.
So I need to decide which of those two town reads is wrong. That's a tough decision.

[Netherspite]

Or I was wrong about ankamius and he's scum.
Need to think.

[pistachi0n]

Since the votecount here, the only change I see is that I moved to Ankamius, putting him at 3 (and the only candidate with more than 1 vote).

So I'm keeping my vote. We have less then 24 hours left.

[Alchemist21]

Well we have to do something. We only have 1 day left. I still prefer Dave but could switch to pistachion if necessary.

@Netherspite, you didn't answer my question.

I did.
It was in my answer to

RadiantCowbells

.
I equally consider top 3 in my list scummy.
I still didn't decide who to vote of them.

You didn't say why you actually suspect Dave.

[Alchemist21]

Davesaz's vote on me is lazy, but what strikes me as weird about it is how little it looks like he cares. Either he's just town that doesn't give a shit or he's scum on a wagon that's mostly town. I don't see a scumteam not putting in a lot of effort to get me lynched if they're going to go all out in wagoning me.

I replied to this concern, from you and others, in 1337. Work has me constrained to something like 10% of normal capacity. I looked at the game state, decided who I thought looked scummier from scumslipgate, and voted it. The brief comment I made was quite literally all I had time for.

I don't really have a clue who is scum atm. My methods rely almost exclusively on having a scum flip to associate from. Occasionally someone's behavior or an outright slip will help. Sometimes I can tell by the pattern of attacks or votes on someone I think is clearly town. But to really dial in on it, I need that flip.

What makes you think Ank looked scummier?

[All Alone]

ugh, nobody will vote pistachi0n?

I still think Ankamius's reaction to L-1 was genuine. I won't compromise onto him.

VOTE: Netherspite

[Netherspite]

You didn't say why you actually suspect Dave.

I listed the reasons I suspect him at the beginning of the Day 3...

[Netherspite]

I came to the conclusion that regardless of the

Ankamius

' alignment, at least one scum was off both wagons.
I don't honestly believe that

Thesp

is scum. Can't imagine the world where he is scum.
So basically I'm forced to believe that

Alchemist21

is scum.
I was townreading him the whole game but... From those games I played I learned that I'm may be bad at finding scum but I'm unexpectedly good at predicting where was scum (at what wagons) at key votecounts.
Here is your best bet for today: vote

Alchemist21

.
VOTE: Alchemist21

Since I'm becoming a consensus lynch for today and I'm going to turn

Alchemist21

against me now, I'll write more thoughts about the scumteam now for you to use tomorrow in few minutes.

[Netherspite]

I've analyzed other votecounts.

I am calling out the scumteam. Bolding this to link that post in "I told you!" post after the game.
Alchemist21, RadiantCowbells, (All Alone / pistachi0n)

[Alchemist21]

As bad as his recent play has been, I still get the feeling Nether is Town and his lynch will be Eventi Part 2.

[Alchemist21]

I think Ank amd Nether are both tied at 3 votes at the moment. I'd really prefer people to switch over to Dave. With 5 hours left it looks bleak, but there's still hope.

[Thesp]

As much as I would prefer a davesaz wagon, I just don't see it happening right now.
UNVOTE: Ankamius
VOTE: Netherspite
Better Netherspite than no lynch, and I don't know how available I will be over the next 3.5 hours.

I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed in a lot of town players after this game. (I know I already am with a few.)

[Thesp]

Unofficial Vote Count

Netherspite

(4): RadiantCowbells, Ankamius, All Alone, Thesp

Alchemist21

(2): St Constantine the Hermit, Netherspite

Ankamius

(2): pistachi0n, davesaz

davesaz

(1): Alchemist21

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Netherspite]

@Town

Please just trust me, lynch

Alchemist21

tomorrow. And after you'll see that I'm right proceed with others.

Btw, since I'm at L-1, the claim. I'm VT.

[All Alone]

Deadline

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SOMEONE HAMMER.

NOW.

[pistachi0n]

VOTE: Netherspite

[Netherspite]

I'm still VT.
Lynch

Alchemist21

tomorrow, then

All Alone

, then

RadiantCowbells

/

pistachi0n

.
We still can win this game.
Town, please do not reduce my 84% winrate ><

[Netherspite]

So silent in twilight.
Town doesn't seem to be interested in solving this game...

[BBmolla]

sorry yo

[BBmolla]

Official Vote Count

Nethersprite

(5): RadiantCowbells, Ankamius, All Alone, Thesp, pistachi0n,

Alchemist21

(2): St Constantine the Hermit, Netherspite,

Ankamius

(1): davesaz,

davesaz

(1): Alchemist21,

Not Voting

(0):

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-29 14:20:00)[/u]

[BBmolla]

Spoiler: Flip

Nethersprite,

vanilla townie

, was lynched D3