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In post 41, herrcombs wrote:
Wait... Who's bluewaffle? Did you mean BBT? Or are you voting someone who's not in this game?
Its my pet name for bbt since the first game we had-
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honestly I use that word a lot it features in all my recent games. Also what's this bs about calling someone town. I said I don't see anything scummy yet. You seem like your reaching so have my vote.In post 37, mykonian wrote:we could be out of rvs right now.
You know, why not.
Garmr already committed a scumtell trying to call someone town. There's no need for the word "honestly" there, it only makes sense from a point where scum is trying to think like town. The word "honestly" implies that he comes from a setting where he was prepared to lie this game, then found a situation where it wasn't necessary. Add to this that he's stepping in to protect someone from an accusation and that little sentence becomes quite damning. Buddying and at the same time showing off his mindset is scummy.
So dwlee, are we out of rvs?
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In post 87, Dwlee99 wrote:So many people have weak reasons for being on the mykonian wagon.
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In post 90, Dwlee99 wrote:To 88: Garmr, myko is null for me atm. He's playing aggressively and stimulating conversation but his reads are stretched.
To 89: Thought I'd lay a BBT town read out there because it would generate something to talk about (which it did) and allow me to get reads. The implosion read was used to talk outloud and make people not just dismiss my post as "random reads that make no sense" which caused people to comment seriously on it.
You know having a lot of content with stretched reads can be a sign of scum trying to hard to be town. So it's not really a weak reason to be voting myko. As we also just came out RVs I don't understand why you would attack a wagon you call null and admit that mykos reasons are stretched.-
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In post 94, Dwlee99 wrote:If I don't attack the wagon when are people gonna actually give more reasons for it than stretched reads? The wagon just allows scum to hide by joining under the same reasons as everyone else. I need more from people than "Reads are stretched" when joining a wagon. I could also sit here and argue that stretching reads can be town trying to figure out the game.
You could try to argue that but I would point out constant stretching makes it lean to the scum side more.
Also attacking a wagon this early is stupid if you don't town read them for multiple reasons. Also they are stretching vote is better than this wagon shit but lol his a null read. Maybe with a bit of pressure you could of had your read on him.-
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In post 74, mykonian wrote:well garmr sucks
vote garmr
herr's 67 seems town. He doesn't look particulary devious either. Probably should go on the townlist then.
In post 85, mykonian wrote:"so he was in effect defending me."
"trying to call someone town"
I did that from memory, didn't use exact quotes. Effect is the same, conclusions as well.
Since when did I call dw worthless for just omgus? I was quite thorough with that insult. If he's town there was no reason to reply to my post as he did. If he's scum that omgus was pretty poor for him. All in all, he's made two actions now that make him shit regardless of role.
regarding my vote, I don't really care. Could have put it down at the first time garmr looked scum, did it at the second time. His vote was by far the worst of the bunch and it was about time scum joined my wagon. Just compare feli's vote to garmr's and tell me you can't see the difference. Your play is fine. His isn't.
That's 2 scum for now, I think I'm happy with that. Night, people.
So your only real reason I am scum is because of the fact I used honestly which I honestly use a lot and even more so since you mentioned it. Also you should quit before you burn youself if there's a wagon between you and me your the one getting lynched.
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Tbh you can lynch me I'm not really an important power role just a bullet proof townie I was trying to draw attention to get someone to night kill me with a soft power role claim before but now I don't really care. My care factor for this game is zero. Because I didn't think anyone would be that retarded and mentally handicapped to follow with myko because of the word honestly.-
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Ok back early and feeling better. Anyway i am not going to replace out as really what would that do I pretty much already claimed and you assume I'm going to do nothing all game except defend myself and what more can I actually do to hurt the game state other than claim this useless role... Another reason I took the break was when I came back I could see to how people would react with out my presence because I didn't want to fill 70 the chat with Me vs myko
Anyway what I got about three town reads out of it i'll do the scum reads after because tbh I'm lazy and it be interesting to see how people react.
Dwlee- He has been fighting hard for it and has a much better case than myko ever did even through it's still wrong and flawed in places. What I don't like is how he was pretty defensive of myko yet at the time myko had the best on him this worries me a lot. Also I feel like Dwelee is pushing for the fact That I am scum yet he refuses to listen to what others have to say when is criticed In a way that makes him come across as a stubborn townie rather than stubborn scum.
Heirama-I find this slot to be town. Because I don't really see a scum slot trying to push me to replace out and waste a potential mislynch that is the first big sign. Other than that heirs play has been consistent and I can see logic in pretty much all heirs posts.
Implosion-His debate with myko makes me lean more toward the town side. It looks like he his trying to convince myko of his point of view. As he thinks we are both town I think this falls in line with someone with a town mindset. He also shows more town hunting than scum hunting through scum hunting is there process of elimination is also a thing.-
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In post 244, Dwlee99 wrote:@Garmr 242: Can you explain the second sentence in your read on me? What did you mean I defended Myko when he had the best on me? What does him having the best of me mean?
Bad typing lol. I mean myko had the best case on him at the time. He was reaching at everything and anything this could be seen a scum flail. I really don't know how you could of seen it otherwise other than if you got fucked up on some kinda pills or something. I heard acid is some very strong shit
In post 243, Hieirama wrote:@Garmr
WB!
Glad to see that the vacation helped.
Reading that, my Town read on implosion gets a bit stronger too; I need to review Dwlee...
Eager to see your thoughts on Myko's play when you've been gone.
To be honest I'm starting to have doubts mykos scum. I'm starting to believe he may really be that crazy to believe what he is saying and I don't really want to believe someone who act like that in town exists...-
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Welp My scum list goes a little like this at the moment (Will do them one at a time starting with the biggest scum first)
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In post 259, Lalendra wrote:
Garmr – “Honestly” was interesting, but I don’t think it was as much of a scumtell as everyone seemed to think it was. 96 also feels to me like he is being overly-defensive town, I really don’t think that it is a scummy post. But then along comes 171. What is the purpose of this post? Why say you’re a power role if you’re not willing to say what? Why claim when no one asked you to? Why so cryptic? And then you just give up on the game. Anti-town at best. Don’t play if you’re just going to totally screw your team by playing poorly and then giving up. I dislike PL but this is the wagon that I am most inclined to pursue at this point, because as Hieirama pointed out, being blatantly anti-town is almost as bad as being scum.
VOTE: Garmr
This here is a extremely poor reason to vote me and a total misrep. It's pretty obvious I was going for a gambit with out saying my power role to get scum to shoot me also I never gave up on the game I just needed a little break to clear my head about things and read other peoples reactions. The way your potraying me here seems like a scummy excuse to vote someone and say they are town at the same time. Then you try and play it off as a policy lynch which you even said yourself you don't like doing.
In post 235, Lalendra wrote:I dislike policy lynches, because even if someone's being anti-town, they're still a town player who is alive. I'd rather garmr replaced out and we got someone else who was worth something, but it doesn't look like that's gonna happen.
I'm on mobile at the moment but I'll make a more extensive post when my computer decides to turn on.
P-edit: was it really necessary to quote a wall for a one-line comment?
But that doesn't even add to the fact that you haven't even tried to look for scum this game. Sure claiming something like bp maybe a little antitown but I was originally going for a gambit which i stressed out and befuddled and I'm actually trying now and shown intention.
You haven't even bothered to scum hunt this game and are just giving out town reads to most players or asking questions. You haven't made a firm stance on anyone yet. You have plenty of time to get a scum read which you haven't so. Your play also seems like your trying to duck under the radar while 259 seems forced and contradicts what you said in
In post 217, Lalendra wrote:There's a difference between not scum hunting, and just not posting walls and pointless read-lists. If you have questions I'll answer them, but I typically wait until I feel like I have a solid case on someone before I say something, rather than making lists of leans and nulls.
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I had pretty much a null read on feli till this post
In post 224, Felissan wrote:Mod, could we get a votecount? I'm starting to get consused right now.
Since the last time I could be active in-thread, mykonian has pretty much redeemed himself - I can see how him being trigger-happy on the early-game poking is just a tactic to get more info, and he's pretty much done his best to shape the debate to encourage people to be more active and speak of the important topics. I'd still like him to answer some questions that were asked a long time ago, and some posts still feel unnecessary in the middle... (I'm looking at you, 172...)
UNVOTE: mykonian
I've definitely got a scum read on Garmr now, but I'll put it on the back burner for now - I'll wait for it to be really blatant before wanting him dead, we wouldn't want to lose a legit PR if it turns out we're wrong, even if it's just a BP.
My read comes from a few points: first, his original mykonian vote just felt overly defensive, and he stood on the wagon for no more explicit reasons than that early read from him. Second, he's been pretty agressive about the myko wagon, in particular with 96 and 173 - it sounds like he expects people to join his wagon for great justice without even considering the fact that we may have different reads on myko, which just sounds like a lazy approach to scum-hunting. And of course, his claim was just the icing on the cake - spontaneously claiming a PR is apparently not something that's particularly scummy, but if he was meaning to soft-claim in 96, why did he immediately claim when questionned about it? And why did he claim BP right after that, even though it breaks the whole purpose of being one?
For now, my vote will go somewhere completely different...
VOTE: Hieirama
The wording in some of his posts just has a feel of uneasy scum (constantly insisting on whether his play is scummy or not, worrying too much about not doing enough) - I mainly think of these lines:
In post 118, Hieirama wrote:I made that readlist, you're right, to contribute a little bit more than a one-liner. I'm not sure how that's scum-oriented?
In post 168, Hieirama wrote:Scum can casually give opinions on recent events too, though, its not just a Town thing.
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Kind of. I'll restate it: "I'll attempt to form an analysis even though I don't fully get what's going on, because it's much better than lurking around."
I'd like to put a bit more pressure on him, hence my vote.
He quickly says he has a scum read on me yet he doesn't explain it but then goes he could be a legit power role so I don't want to vote him now. This feels like scum to me waiting to be around the end of the wagon just in case it blows in smoke and puts his vote on the wagon that is actually building up at the time when a lot of controversy is surrounding mine. He does mention a few points but tbh I think he through out more points towards me than heirama. His vote on heir doesn't really push them to get more answers out of heir.
Also his scum list so far just consist of the biggest wagons at the time I can defiantly see a scum agenda here.-
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In post 272, Dwlee99 wrote:@Garmr 269: That post reeks of OMGUS. You're wrong on a few things there. First of all, your "gambit" was not very clear. Your gambit makes sense if you didn't decide to completely ruin the entire thing by claiming BP. But you did. Second, you say Lalendra has done no scum hunting and yet they did in the post you quoted. I liked that wall but m'kay about your opinion.
Omgus is a overused scumtell that is entirely worthless and to be afraid to state your opinion about how you feel about someone makes you failure as a town so that's why I don't care for it.
Second you like it but can you tell me who laendras scum list is or why she is satisfied staying on someone who she considers anti town instead of scum hunting. This isn't scum hunting this is just placing people as town reads and throwing worthless questions at people with out commiting to a scum read so she can breeze through a policy lynch. Learn the difference.
Also it is pretty clear looking back and doesn't take much brain power to process hint at a power role then leave it at that. But some idiot decided to blurt it out in the open which no one should do (town or scum) if they think someone is a power role so I just confirmed it then gah You can start to see why I got pissed off. But it does make perfect sense. Me ruining it through doesn't make sense for scum either because I could of played it off for longer and then burst it out latter on. Also I could of done a better fake claim like 2 shot hider so I can explain why scum didn't shoot me and confirm people as town and possible confirm a scum mate as town as well.
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In post 276, Lalendra wrote:In post 261, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
First off, assuming he's telling the truth it makes perfect sense to not specify a power role. Second, doesn't lynching anti-town instead of scum screw over the town by compunding things even more?
At the time I was feeling that we might have to choose the lesser of two evils, because he was going to actually harm us with anti-town play, which is worse than contributing nothing. After his last few posts I feel a good deal better, as it seems he is now engaged and out of whatever funk that was.
In post 261, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Also, I asked you which mykonian posts were full of crap and all of the posts you talked about were post 51 and earlier. Is there a reason for this?
You're right, I didn't specifically answer that question. I'll answer it in the next post.
In post 262, implosion wrote:In post 259, Lalendra wrote:as Hieirama pointed out, being blatantly anti-town is almost as bad as being scum.
Being anti-town may be "as bad as being scum" (although I'm not quite sure what that means) but that doesn't mean wasting a mislynch on someone you think is town (especially a power role) is going to further the town win condition.
It does if he actively sabotages town with bad/apathetic play. But like I said, I don't really think that's the case anymore.
In post 269, Garmr wrote:
This here is a extremely poor reason to vote me and a total misrep. It's pretty obvious I was going for a gambit with out saying my power role to get scum to shoot me also I never gave up on the game I just needed a little break to clear my head about things and read other peoples reactions. The way your potraying me here seems like a scummy excuse to vote someone and say they are town at the same time. Then you try and play it off as a policy lynch which you even said yourself you don't like doing.
Sorry for misunderstanding, not sure why I thought you gave up, OH RIGHT BECAUSE YOU LITERALLY SAID YOU WERE GIVING UP THAT'S WHY.
Anyway, since Garmr no longer seems like he's just going to mail it in the rest of the game, UNVOTE: Garmr I guess.
In post 178, Garmr wrote:I'm having a two day break from this game then maybe i will a bit more motivated.
In post 242, Garmr wrote:Ok back early and feeling better. Anyway i am not going to replace out as really what would that do I pretty much already claimed and you assume I'm going to do nothing all game except defend myself and what more can I actually do to hurt the game state other than claim this useless role... Another reason I took the break was when I came back I could see to how people would react with out my presence because I didn't want to fill 70 the chat with Me vs myko
Anyway what I got about three town reads out of it i'll do the scum reads after because tbh I'm lazy and it be interesting to see how people react.
Dwlee- He has been fighting hard for it and has a much better case than myko ever did even through it's still wrong and flawed in places. What I don't like is how he was pretty defensive of myko yet at the time myko had the best on him this worries me a lot. Also I feel like Dwelee is pushing for the fact That I am scum yet he refuses to listen to what others have to say when is criticed In a way that makes him come across as a stubborn townie rather than stubborn scum.
Heirama-I find this slot to be town. Because I don't really see a scum slot trying to push me to replace out and waste a potential mislynch that is the first big sign. Other than that heirs play has been consistent and I can see logic in pretty much all heirs posts.
Implosion-His debate with myko makes me lean more toward the town side. It looks like he his trying to convince myko of his point of view. As he thinks we are both town I think this falls in line with someone with a town mindset. He also shows more town hunting than scum hunting through scum hunting is there process of elimination is also a thing.
This shows my intent to get back into the game. I find it hard to believe you would miss reading this as you said you would wait to see how I would react when I got back. It's a conflict of what you said earlier. About waiting to see how I would respond. A lot of what you say and what you do is conflicting.-
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In post 277, Dwlee99 wrote:Their main scum read seems to be you. I think that they have a scum lean on Haschel as well (confirm, lalendra?) or null I think? They mentioned them couldn't tell if it was a scum or null read.
Your second scum read is better. Fellisan's post is odd, at least the first part. It makes sense to be worried that you might actually be a power role. And I disagree about you claiming early being less likely as scum. The fact that you thought of that two-shot hider claim shows the mindset you're in. This is sort of reaching but as town why would you even think of a fake claim like that.
FoS Lalendra for suddenly giving up reads on pressure regarding them. Based on your post it wasn't a PL.
It was obvious you didn't read that correctly. They made it clear I was a policy and the fact you have to ask the person If the actually have a scum read on a person is pretty bad as they can actually deny it latter on. Also I am scum minded I put my self in scum shoes when I scum hunt.
There are three diffrent type of minded people town-fferylt/thor neutral-pirate mollie/not science and scum me and ferrylt/pirate mollies mentor (this theroy comes from there mentor who name I forgot) I have mentioned this theroy of mindsets in past games as well.
That's how I came up with my lala scum read I put myself in their shoes. I'm always thinking of how to play as scum as I enjoy scum more than town because it's easier for me. I can create scenarios in my head in a instant. It ends up catching scum people wouldn't normally catch but on the flip side I tend to miss some things other people see.-
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In post 287, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 177, Garmr wrote:Tbh you can lynch me I'm not really an important power role just a bullet proof townie I was trying to draw attention to get someone to night kill me with a soft power role claim before but now I don't really care. My care factor for this game is zero. Because I didn't think anyone would be that retarded and mentally handicapped to follow with myko because of the word honestly.
Yeah, I don't like this. At the very, very best it's anti-town play but it's most likely coming from scum. There is no town motivation to claiming BP like that - none at all.
In post 184, implosion wrote:Garmr is like 99% town. There's nearly zero reason for him to claim bulletproof townie here as scum. 177-178 is a genuine emotional outburst.
Except for there is? Dwlee gave reasons - I agree somewhat that BP isn't a great claim for scum to make. It's a safe one though - doesn't have to give results and has explanations for why he is alive.
You're 1-shot BP Garmr, right?
In post 191, implosion wrote:I also think I like herrcombs and Dierfire as town.
I'm not seeing the Dier town read - talk to me about it. Everything he is posting feels off to me and I can usually read Dier as town pretty quickly.
Does It matter how many shots I can take I really don't like you prying into that seems pretty scummy to do that.-
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In post 292, Dwlee99 wrote:What is the scum motivation for shooting you, though?
What is the town motivation in trying to direct a possible vig to shoot me. In other words he possible knowledge of a potential vig in the scum roles and his trying to gauge if I'm just a 1 shoot bullet proof or just general bullet proof. The scum agenda for this is that a killing role won't shoot scum for that night and if If they find out how many shots I can take say for example if I am one shot bullet proof townie (which is what he asked not how many shots can I take.) Then he can now if I am safe to shoot latter on after a vig has shoot me. This optimal scum play if he can pull it off. This is why It ring alarm bells to me.-
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In post 296, mykonian wrote:Haha. BBT pushes garmr and now he's suddenly scum as well!
this is brilliant
So what are your other reads again. I am starting to think you are becoming obsessed with me so much you're starting to lust for me.-
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In post 342, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Garmr, did you get around to explaining your final scum read?
What are your thoughts on Dier?
Nah I didn't I was actually waiting to see how my final scum read would respond because it was more of a gut feeling and I didn't have a case on you at that point.
Not to sure to be honest he didn't really get to involved between me and myko but commented on it Through his town reading me I don't know what his opinion of myko is because he never really took a stance on him. I just notice things that I consider odd but not really scummy just I don't understand them.
Like when he said dwl is easy to lynch and people are voting him are more likely scum, Trying to put a link to dwlee and lalandra (even through that whole chat was interesting for another reason all togther) and well that's it for now.-
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Don't really like the "why would I move off garmr as scum thing" if he didn't appear to have changed his tone about me around the same time it would of been a lot worse. Just seems like he knows I'm town.In post 362, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:OK, but you're using defensiveness as a reason for reading Hieirama as scum. How does that work?
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In post 441, mykonian wrote:Now that's an interesting kill. For one because I would have guessed someone else to go, for two because implosion was the odd man out of the obvtown group when considering his reads.
Reread a bit and you can disagree with me here, but I don't think implosion was killed for his suspicions. He kept his reads close and given that feli's slot is the one replaced, I don't think that person gets a major say in the NK straight away. He came back on his dier read and anyway that's a common one. I think someone saw a pr tell there or scum had other motives with their kill.
BBT, I want your opinion on this.
Curious why you say feli has a say in the night kill think this may be a slip-
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Also what subject which needed addressing was there at the end of day 1? Lala pretty obvious scum she was pushing a policy lynch on me day 1 now she scum reads me and the person who was town reading me the most dies. Also what's curious is myko was pushing me all day then votes pista and is now acting like the pista lynch was all my fault lol.-
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If you want to engage in the pariah contract bbt with my flip I can pretty much say with 85 percent certainty that you are town. But You must be of eligible circumstance to engage in it. If you don't fit the criteria as town (if your scum don't even bother ) do not sign with blood and don't worry about the contract. If signed I will do my best to avoid the mistakes of the past over our shared history and avoid the clash.-
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In post 473, Dwlee99 wrote:Garmr, there was still more to talk about. There was (someone said it) a full wagon in a page. You declare INTENT because it gives people time to make decisions and look over the wagon again.
And wtf is 472?
But I don't see why it would make me scum doing that I been in this game long enough and I have seen just as many town hammer in similar situations. I just came out a situation where scum didn't get hammered and lived a day because a flash wagon on him didn't go through and it cost town the game. Also admit it, it was the end of the day it's not like it made a big deal and there was many people not caring about the lynch and agreeing to it. Do you think it's strange that they are all acting like it was such a big deal that someone they were scum reading got lynched?
472 is me making sure I don't repeat a mistake of the past bbt should know what I'm talking about if he doesn't that's fine to I just want him to know.-
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Has anyone actually read meanmelter post Analise even through it is formatted horribly.I will break down the stuff about me since it's the easiet to anwser since I was involved in it.
In post 466, Meanmelter wrote:#69:Jesus Christ this guy has nothing to say? No questions? No bandwagon even? He just adds clarity to a nickname, which isn't scummy at all, but it's scummy to me that it's all he says. I always find scum to be very inactive and trying to let time fly by day one. They want to raise as little suspicion as they can.
-Town rep.
I find this post pretty pathetic your attacking me for answering a question when in the next 22 minutes (I was at work or walking to work so I couldn't post much) I actually put down a serious vote. Your point is invalid. Also why you town rep it if your saying it's scummy I'm going to assume that's a typo. I find this a scummy reason to try and push as it's stretched and I don't think a town would try to attack from such a angle. It's something one would gloss over or just look in the iso and go Meh. It's painting me in a scummy light by bending the truth. if you paint a flower using shit it's still shit on the paper.
In post 466, Meanmelter wrote:
#72 Up here we go, a vote at least. I feel this is reaching a bit far back at this point however from a case on page 2.
-Town rep.
don't know why you have this point and the previous point together you can easily see it hasn't even been 20 minutes between the posts. It conflicts with your previous statement.
I don't understand why you are trying to link me and myko together. You just called us both scum and you put it as a null post.In post 466, Meanmelter wrote:
#74 Reaction bait w/ OMGUS after flaming someone who did the same. If he uses this well I give him town rep. We will see. Though this post also gives me slight suspicion of a Myko/Garmr scumteam. Mostly because I have disliked both of their voting history & reasons behind them. I think this post could also be scum-on-scum action just to throw that old "Mafia don't attack other mafia" hat out of the way.
Null post
Is this guy serious? I am not liking these posts at all. Claiming a power role like that and saying you have zero motivation for this game is not the best thing to say. Not sure if that's scum trying to draw people off his wagon, or a townie who's purposely trying to avoid making himself a night target because he's actually a different PR. Anyways, I would say this is a null read from someone who I've found scummy before, but the zero motivation thing is really not hitting me in the places they should.
-Town rep
Ok your giving me town rep for this so now I am a null read why has this changed your views becuase you said this point was pretty null as you gave a scum reasoning as well.??
#186 Now, if I did see that no one died tonight, I would have seen it as the mafia targeting Garmr thinking he is lying and that he's another power role. Though I suppose that gives the mafia the option not to kill anyone. I just don't think they would even bother with Garmr to be honest though. Losing a D1 night kill feels like a setback.
Why would mafia even risk shooting me they could easily try to push a mislynch on day 2 they are probably going to fail but yeh. Then at the end you discredit your own point why are you doing that. A town member shouldn't be so indecisive.
I could go through the rest of the things but none of them actually raise a point on me other than omg hammer. which is pretty pathetic considering it was the end of the day but the reason he votes me.
VOTE: Garmr
You've done nothing at all productive for the town the entire game. You went from AFK one line posts to softclaiming out of no where and then hardclaiming thinking it was gonna somehow be useful for the town.
This is a bit cheeky if he is town which I doubt you could be the most worthless fucker in the game and not know it and just mislynch the fuck out of every slot So presmuing this and using it as a reason to lynch someone means you don't have a real reason to lynch some and just want to place your vote there or you know who is town and scum is Both reasons are fucking scummy as.
You also fucked up the line of events trying to misrep me here I soft claimed then hard claimed when people were being retarded and then to stop myself from stressing out I took a 1 and half day break which isn't even that long to gather my thoughts and feel better about myself. Your exaggerating it to be a giant fucking long time and trying to make it out that I was a lurker when in fact before that I was one of the more active players in this game. You also mention nothing about my reads and play it off as I have done nothing That is fucking pathetic and giant ass misrep.
Also you were felissan slot and that slot was scummy as fuck.
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In post 480, Lalendra wrote:In post 464, Haschel Cedricson wrote:In post 463, Lalendra wrote:I think garmr and Dier were the scummiest on pistachios wagon.
Why?
Read my ISO, I think I've been pretty clear about my cases for both of them.
There's no reasons as why I am scum it's just policy lynch reasons.
In post 481, Hieirama wrote:
And wow Garmr
thats a lot of "fuck"s in those last few paragraphs there.
Fuck is one of my fave words espically if I'm emphasizing something. What do you think of my post combined with the fact the slot was fellisan?-
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In post 486, Dierfire wrote:@Garmr
Herrcombs doesn't appear to be here right now, so I'll do the English-to-English translation. Meanmelter is using the notation "-Town rep" as opposed to "+Town rep", so he's not actually "giving you Town rep" in those posts, he's indicating the opposite.
Yeh i do consider that he might mean it negatively in my comments through I did mention it. It doesn't really effect my case much through.-
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Lol to avoid giant walls of shit like I will address a couple of key points since half your post is utter just banter and has no real points at all If you want me to address something put it into dot point to surmises your case.
-your response to me hammering the last person is shit as it shows no scum motive this is just fluff about times 30 hours is still a day and the game at the time was stalling and others had the intention to end the day. Your lack of point is void.
-giving no intent isn't the best thing to do as scum espically when there multiple people that were willing to hammer pista the pressure would be on the other person that hammered then and not yourself.
-yeh that pretty obvious now that you weren't giving me town rep for that but I accounted for that in my post just in case I was wrong. Also the span of time this happened wasn't very large. Also a serious vote for that amount of reach in logic (fucking using the honestly isn't a scum tell.) If myko does flip town this game I am forever going to tease the fuck out of them forever for such a useless tell and focusing me practically the whole game being useless. (because I will flip town) Also your trying to put my misunderstanding of something as me intentially misrepping you wow scum as fuck.
-first thing in your head just means you did a fuck up and now your trying to sweep it away in a matter of hours which seems scummy to me.
-lol you need to learn how to play mafia if you think that power role claim was scummy but the fact is you are scum so it is forgivable that your trying to act like a idiot.
-Yes you did lol you fucking put that I went afk,softclaimed,then hard claimed to fit your narrative. What really happened was the soft claim I pulled out my gambit with a hard claim then got pissed off with this player base then when and had a one day and half day break which you tried to play off as lurking for a long period.
I gave some pretty good content day one after I relaxed but you skim over it and don't even mention my activities till the hammer which makes me believe your just a scum fuck just trying to get a lynch off me lol because I'm a power role .
Also pretty obvious fellisan was my secondary scum read and lala was my primary at the time brah but now I think your scummier than lala so why don't you throw another bad point out there to try and divert away from the thing that make you scum.
Lol boy i also voted lala so my vote history was myko,lala then pista.-
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In post 494, Meanmelter wrote:In post 493, Garmr wrote:
Lol to avoid giant walls of shit like I will address a couple of key points since half your post is utter just banter and has no real points at all If you want me to address something put it into dot point to surmises your case.
-your response to me hammering the last person is shit as it shows no scum motive this is just fluff about times 30 hours is still a day and the game at the time was stalling and others had the intention to end the day. Your lack of point is void.
-giving no intent isn't the best thing to do as scum espically when there multiple people that were willing to hammer pista the pressure would be on the other person that hammered then and not yourself.
I don't think this question was a game changer to be honest. What in this question would of changed the results? if your talking about pista about the question soze asked. I don't care really pista's reads tbh because they were superfical as shit. I did mistake her as scum at the time but you can easily tell she was just skimming through the game and not actually going indepth with it. I thought a town pista would put more thought into her reads obviously not.
In post 493, Garmr wrote:
-yeh that pretty obvious now that you weren't giving me town rep for that but I accounted for that in my post just in case I was wrong. Also the span of time this happened wasn't very large. Also a serious vote for that amount of reach in logic (fucking using the honestly isn't a scum tell.) If myko does flip town this game I am forever going to tease the fuck out of them forever for such a useless tell and focusing me practically the whole game being useless. (because I will flip town) Also your trying to put my misunderstanding of something as me intentially misrepping you wow scum as fuck.
Are you literally strawmanning me now? I never said you misrepresenting me was intentional at all.
well why even mention it then when a like 2 people had already told me. It's like you were trying to make me look scummy with out having a real point.
the myko and me being a scum team that was the first thing that ran out your head. You quickly went back over it when it was pointed out.In post 493, Garmr wrote:
-first thing in your head just means you did a fuck up and now your trying to sweep it away in a matter of hours which seems scummy to me.
I don't even understand what you are talking about here.
What's the scum motivation for it then what would the scum motivation for just taking 1 day off to get my head back into it. You say shit is scummy but you can't even say why scum would do that it's laughable.
In post 493, Garmr wrote:
-lol you need to learn how to play mafia if you think that power role claim was scummy but the fact is you are scum so it is forgivable that your trying to act like a idiot.
I think you need to learn how to play mafia if you think claiming as a "not important power role" and having "zero motivation" isn't scummy as hell.
In post 493, Garmr wrote:-Yes you did lol you fucking put thatI went afk,softclaimed,then hard claimed to fit your narrative.What really happened was the soft claim I pulled out my gambit with a hard claim then got pissed off with this player base then when and had a one day and half day break which you tried to play off as lurking for a long period.
I'm not making anything fit my "own narrative"
You contributed nothing until people started voting onto you and then you got super defensive, soft claimed, and then hard claimed like two hours later which is only 6 posts NOBODY EVEN POINTED OUT A THE SOFT CLAIM YOU JUST SOFT CLAIMED AND THEN HARD CLAIMED FOR NOTHINGGGGGGGGGG. I never even said you were lurking when you decided to take your sudden day and a half vacation. Stop strawmanning me brah.
Read what you wrote brah now you're changing the story brah.
Are you daft or something the link between lala and dwelee was mentioned by deir and I said it is wierd that deir mentioned it. but I'm smart enough to know when someone made a mistake in reading and wouldn't try to push it as a scum point I still have produced more reads than myko and other people as well but it's fucking hilarious that your trying to push I had no content.In post 493, Garmr wrote:
I gave some pretty good content day one after I relaxed but you skim over it and don't even mention my activities till the hammer which makes me believe your just a scum fuck just trying to get a lynch off me lol because I'm a power role .
Yea right. You posts some reads on people like three people. Have doubts about thinking myko as scum. Vote Lala for voting you, and saying she isn't scum hunting when you haven't scum hunted yourself at that point. Find Felisan scummy and then never mention it again. You mention you trying to find a link between lala and dwlee (Who is someone you find to be a townie btw unless that changed without a notice.) And then you hammer.
In post 493, Garmr wrote:
Also pretty obvious fellisan was my secondary scum read and lala was my primary at the time brah but now I think your scummier than lala so why don't you throw another bad point out there to try and divert away from the thing that make you scum.
It looks like to me your secondary was Pista. Why else would you hammer someone you don't find scummy? You only mention Felisan being scummy once.
Never said I didn't find pista scummy I was willing to lynch her becuase she was in that null terriotory and I felt it would advance the game state brah.
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I voted lala after she tried to policy lynch me with out even trying to scum hunt brah and a bunch of other reasons. Pretty fucking sloppy scum work trying to push away my points with oh but she voted you first.
Brah like I said your trying to paint me as scum by selecting a few posts and pretty much ignoring what conflicts with your argument thats fucking scummy brah.
You've been a scummy player since the start. I'm surprised you weren't the d1 lynch tbh.
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In post 498, Lalendra wrote:I am not at all liking the exchange between melter and garmr. Melter is making valid points, Garmr is making almost unintelligible responses that mostly consist of "NOPE YOUR WroNG LOL". I don't really feel as though melter is misrepresenting what went on with garmr d1, and his responses to melter's points have caused him to officially surpass dier as my top scum read atm. While I didn't have a problem with people voting pistachio per se, I didn't like the quick hammer; yes, there were other people who had declared ITH, which is precisely why you DON'T then hammer the person without saying anything. It was pretty clear that there was a reason that they were waiting to hammer him.
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That;s incorrect as I also have been making valid points as well as acknowledge by heir.-
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I felt we were getting no where tbh soze. Also tell em what was the scum motive of me doing that. I have never done that in my scum carrer have a look. No one has actually emtaed me or if they have they won't say anything becuase if someone does meta me it's pretty obvious I'm town. What I'm going to say right now is border line trust tell territory and i have to change it in the future so don't count on using it after this game.
But if you meta every single one of my scum I have never ever fake claimed anything other than vanilla town and I don't plan to often. It's just to much risk for such little reward.-
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In post 528, mykonian wrote:about your hier read lalendra, I think it's worth it to do some additional research. You could be right and she's newb scum, but it could also be a personality thing of someone who thinks the water in the pool is cold and keeps standing by the side. It's just a bit too blatant for it to be really scummy, I think scum has more incentive to avoid it. But then, I didn't put in that extra time to read some of hier's games yet
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Tbh I wouldn't mind getting lynched today it would point out lulus scummy behavior, Mykonian would have to interact with other players and stop riding my dick and the game could move on at this point it might push town in the right direction instead of being mentally handicapped retards. I got myself in this situation with the claim and hammer so after calming down because with the older players base they would easily That I'm town. (I don't consider mykoyion a good example of a older player.) This will be a learning experience for some newer players not to be fooled by scum.-
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@hercombs if you place your vote on me and I get lynched today will you vote lale tomorrow because I'm willing to cut a deal were I will hammer myself if the players on my wagon vote lale tomorrow. If I am scum you can disregard it(I'm not scum) I mean I have extremely valid points on lale and lale lets admit it when I flip town is pretty obvious scum I mean the points on her are staggering and she is probably one of the players I made the best case on.
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In post 545, herrcombs wrote:Hmm. I don't know what to think of your "offer." For one, I don't like bargaining with people who call me a "mentally handicapped retard." I also think we're playing this game for entirely different reasons. Yours is a very self-centered approach, and everyone else be damned if we win or lose, at least you can claim you had 2/4 of your scumreads correct at some point in the game, right??
I obviously don't understand your methods of PoE, if that's indeed how you're scumreading me (it seems a lot more like OMGUS to me). But a serious question for you -- Do you think all of the scum are stacking on you, trying their damndest to get you lynched? There's not a single person you're scumreading who isn't either on your wagon or entertaining the thought.
Well let me put it this way bud
Yesterday lala was town reading me and I had her as scum. Also ask yourself this question does it matter that they are scum reading me? I have given good points on each of my main 3 scum reads in fact more than most players here. I also have people that are my scum reading me on my town list. So this thing about the people that scum reading me are all on my scum list seems like a scum tactic to devalue my reads.-
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In post 558, Dwlee99 wrote:Garmr, I don't understand how you can think everyone on your wagon is scum.
Not only would it be terrible scum play it is unreasonable and just OMGUS'y.
Herrcombs has moved really high onto my towndar (I like. 551 Very sound logic and reasoning although I disagree on hieir being the person we should lynch today.),
Dude when I'm right you will eat those words-
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