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MTD · Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:12 pm

HYPE.

VOTE: sithlord

MTD · Post Post #56 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:52 pm

In post 54, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You're missing the point.

then just clarify the point -.-

MTD · Post Post #59 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:53 pm

also

UNVOTE:
VOTE: espe until he stops trying to flirt his way to victory

MTD · Post Post #62 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:54 pm

In post 60, lalaladucks wrote:pedit: that's okay bud not necessary

Nah it just generally annoys me

MTD · Post Post #66 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:56 pm

In post 58, Espeonage wrote:mtd lays down the law.

Are you town?

no /s

MTD · Post Post #68 (isolation #5) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:57 pm

In post 67, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:MTD, thoughts on DRK?

no. He has literally two posts, none of which are particularly telling.

MTD · Post Post #70 (isolation #6) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:58 pm

In post 64, Espeonage wrote:@MTD: I refuse to die until I have flirted with everyone. So buck up best boy. Mollie started it.

meh that sucks.

MTD · Post Post #73 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:02 pm

yes I do, I think it's heavily overanalysing a lazy start-of-game post.

MTD · Post Post #75 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:03 pm

In post 72, Espeonage wrote:
In post 70, MTD wrote:
In post 64, Espeonage wrote:@MTD: I refuse to die until I have flirted with everyone. So buck up best boy. Mollie started it.

meh that sucks.

tbf, I would have been wagoned for once people consider the banter that happened yesterday before roles went out.

my problem is that I don't know if you are scum but I just said I will keep my vote on you so it kinda keeps me from voting better.

MTD · Post Post #89 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:23 pm

dammit, now I have to

UNVOTE: before that becomse a wagon.

I don't see espe as scum rn.

The entrance vote from All Alone seemed awkward, before that gets forgotten (since they voted drk, who at that point had 2 votes already, with noone giving an explanation for them yet and without any comment from them).

In post 77, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 73, MTD wrote:yes I do, I think it's heavily overanalysing a lazy start-of-game post.

I realise that you haven't played with me before - so I'm just going to let this slide.

please don't "let it slide", I want to know exaaactly what you think about my comment.

MTD · Post Post #91 (isolation #10) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:28 pm

In post 90, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You think I'm 'heavily overanalysing' but this is how I play. You wouldn't understand that because we've never played together before.

So you're saying you always heavily overanalyse everything.

MTD · Post Post #93 (isolation #11) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:32 pm

better even you say that it matters "how you always play" and at the same time heavily attack using meta -.-

MTD · Post Post #94 (isolation #12) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:32 pm

but "I'll let that slide" for now.

MTD · Post Post #126 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:49 am

In post 98, Wanderer-nl wrote:Ahw I missed RVS?

I'm not really scumreading BBT over his thing with lala. I kinda agree she could have voted earlier, but I also don't agree with a scumread on her, she feels like she's trying to figure things out and wasn't afraid to get us out of RVS. I like that.

MTD: why were you afraid of a wagon forming on Espeonage?

Cause I don't see much worthwhile in info coming from it

anyway, this whole VT-claim bullshit is wifom anyway and won't help anyone (including espe) so eeeeeh.

not entirely happy with lala, but her logic is better than bbt's.

MTD · Post Post #127 (isolation #14) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:50 am

@espe:
0!=1
n!=n*(n-1)!

MTD · Post Post #130 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:53 am

ok I read that as factorials for some reason nvm me

MTD · Post Post #135 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:59 am

ok this is a pleasant surprise

VOTE: espe

MTD · Post Post #138 (isolation #17) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:13 am

In post 137, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 135, MTD wrote:ok this is a pleasant surprise

VOTE: espe

reason? You've been soft defending him up until this point.

All I said is that I thought we wouldn't get much out of this wagon. That impression has changed.

MTD · Post Post #139 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:17 am

ebwop: I did also mention I didn't see him as scum at that point. I'm.... more open to that possibility now as well.

MTD · Post Post #143 (isolation #19) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:44 am

In post 140, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 138, MTD wrote:
In post 137, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 135, MTD wrote:ok this is a pleasant surprise

VOTE: espe

reason? You've been soft defending him up until this point.

All I said is that I thought we wouldn't get much out of this wagon. That impression has changed.

because....?

call it gut as well, but I dislike how he presents the current gamestate in 133.
Like, basically I agree with bella on that post.
Particularly his townread on me feels somewhat out of order.

MTD · Post Post #185 (isolation #20) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:41 pm

In post 147, DeathRowKitty wrote:

In post 75, MTD wrote:
In post 72, Espeonage wrote:
In post 70, MTD wrote:
In post 64, Espeonage wrote:@MTD: I refuse to die until I have flirted with everyone. So buck up best boy. Mollie started it.

meh that sucks.

tbf, I would have been wagoned for once people consider the banter that happened yesterday before roles went out.

my problem is that I don't know if you are scum but I just said I will keep my vote on you so it kinda keeps me from voting better.
Why did you feel obligated to hold yourself to this? What makes it even more unusual is that in your next post you said:

Because I wanted him to know that he is actually annoying me and I'm not just joking about it

In post 89, MTD wrote:dammit, now I have to

UNVOTE: before that becomse a wagon.

Why was "voting better" not an important enough reason for you to move your vote and why was defusing a wagon that hadn't formed yet more important to you than that?

no. I didn't have a "better vote" till that point, really, otherwise I would have switched to that. (earlier even)

From that same post:
MTD wrote:I don't see espe as scum rn.
Was that meant to mean the same thing as your "I don't know if you are scum" in your previous post or did something change in-between those two posts? The two phrases have very different connotations to me.

uh, yes? 3 more posts from espe happened.

In post 157, DeasVail wrote:
In post 143, MTD wrote:Particularly his townread on me feels somewhat out of order.

I like it how you vote him with that as a reason without even investigating the townread.

not sure what you mean with that?

In post 182, Espeonage wrote:Also people do need to realise that buddying is as much a scumhunting tool as anything else. When an argument makes both sides look bad, taking a side controversially shakes things up and causes some amount of missplay sometimes.

And YOU need to realize that its also one of the greatest hindrances to effective scumhunting ever because bias everywhere.

MTD · Post Post #268 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:08 am

checking in.
gonna read me some ISOs

MTD · Post Post #357 (isolation #22) » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:03 am

hey everyone, sorry for not being active, my internet at home stopped working yesterday and I only have limited mobile internet.

I'm hoping we get it fixed by tomorrow.
again, sorry.

MTD · Post Post #795 (isolation #23) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:59 pm

So. We finally got this fixed.

32 pages.

fuck me.

MTD · Post Post #937 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:51 am

I am here! (yay -.-)

I will say that I think blindly lynching lurkers is not the greatest thing to do but doesn't really hurt town either!

I can see why espe would jump on that though. But yeah, that's not a scum move from jarjar I'd reckon, uninformed? maybe. dumb? well maaybe but not scum I think.

Will continue reading backwards now~

MTD · Post Post #939 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:03 am

If you really want to go there, ok.

blindly lynching lurkers is the most positive light that your reasoning could be shown in I think.

MTD · Post Post #940 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:12 am

I'll elaborate.

All you did was taking the argument "they are lurkers, so we should lynch them" and inflated it.
You said all 3 of us sat at the sidelines when scum was lynched.
well. Lurking implies not posting much.
It's pretty hard to

not

sit at the sidelines when youre not posting.
So that's still the same point.
Same with "not getting involved".

So, although you continue to claim that "lurking isn't the only reason", yes, it is. At least it's the only reason you've given.
And then trying to make it look like more than it is is... well, at least stupid.

MTD · Post Post #945 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:22 am

I humbly thank you for pointing out how I could have phrased my post more to your liking.

My question is then, why the hell wouldn't you propose who is most likely to be scum instead of just saying "hey, let's lynch a lurker"?
So yeah, I think the way I wrote it is alright.

Back to reading now -.-

pedit: same.

MTD · Post Post #947 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:53 am

very early reads: Fro99er is towny-towny
Espe is meh, reading through it again, that jump on jarjar is something I dislike. Like I said, I don't agree with JJ on it, but it being the first thing you suddenly hop on and claw a scumread out of without having done anything else in a while is meh.
jarjar is probstown

may I also say that fro99er and to a lesser extent JJ are the

only

people going out of the lynch yesterday with an improved towniness?
I agree with [someone] (forgot who and to lazy to look it up) that its tempting to just lynch one of AA and DV to see what's going on. OTOH it actually wouldn't clear things up for sure anyway except if DV is scum. If that's the case BBT is his partner. If not, no idea.

Pedit: exactly the problem.

MTD · Post Post #949 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:58 am

Apart from the connection to dv he's null for the reasons dv stated.

MTD · Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:56 pm

In post 975, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

In post 947, MTD wrote:very early reads: Fro99er is towny-towny
Espe is meh, reading through it again, that jump on jarjar is something I dislike. Like I said, I don't agree with JJ on it, but it being the first thing you suddenly hop on and claw a scumread out of without having done anything else in a while is meh.
jarjar is probstown

may I also say that fro99er and to a lesser extent JJ are the
only
people going out of the lynch yesterday with an improved towniness?
I agree with [someone] (forgot who and to lazy to look it up) that its tempting to just lynch one of AA and DV to see what's going on. OTOH it actually wouldn't clear things up for sure anyway except if DV is scum. If that's the case BBT is his partner. If not, no idea.

OK, so can you explain what makes you think Fro99er is town? Also, why even suggest that it's tempting to lynch one of All Alone/Deas to 'see what's going on' if you don't actually believe it will clear anything up anyway?

Just look at fro9's posts around the wanderer lynch. there's no way that's not town.
that post was more me writing down my thoughts, which lead me to the conclusion that it's not worth it. The "it's tempting" was my initial impression.

In post 949, MTD wrote:Apart from the connection to dv he's null for the reasons dv stated.

A null read on p38...that's just fantastic.

tyvm

MTD · Post Post #1001 (isolation #31) » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:00 pm

In post 951, DeasVail wrote:And if I'm scum then why is BBT my partner?

I don't understand the connection between us.

simply because if you are scum I see no reason not to believe the roleblock claim...

MTD · Post Post #1002 (isolation #32) » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:06 pm

imo lala's scumread on bella reads weird.
Like, some of the points make some sense but the whole thing reads somewhat like "hey, I think I want to make a scumread on bella, let's see what I can find"

MTD · Post Post #1003 (isolation #33) » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:12 pm

In post 951, DeasVail wrote:Espe, I have a strong townread on JarJar. Also, I said a similar thing when I mentioned that I thought scum were likely among DRK/Bella/you. Why is he scum for it and not me? Same question to MTD. I don't see any real difference between JarJar's posts and mine beyond him using the word 'lurker' and me not. I also had a townread on MTD ages ago, but I don't know.

Uhm, I've never said jarjar was scum.... I even explicitely said he was likely town...

MTD · Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:44 am

In post 1007, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1001, MTD wrote:
In post 951, DeasVail wrote:And if I'm scum then why is BBT my partner?

I don't understand the connection between us.

simply because if you are scum I see no reason not to believe the roleblock claim...

With how common doctor-esque roles are I would be hesitant to assume the roleblock meant BBT-scum.

Ok I need to say this, I agree.
More importantly though, why do you say this? Like, what reason do you ever have to discuss this if youre not scum?

MTD · Post Post #1112 (isolation #35) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:11 am

In post 1108, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1107, lalaladucks wrote:pedit:
L-1!

got a claim bubbles?

Yeah, DV pretty much gave intent to hammer.

I will say that DV looks a little worse if BBT is scum. I've had him as a pretty solid townread most of the game but he definately seemed more reluctant than I would think he'd be to lynch BBT.

So if BBT does flip red, I still would lynch DRK/Bella next but DV should be looked @.

firstly I'm not seeing this.
secondly I'd kind of like an answer to my question to dv before the day ends.
thirdly can someone give me a real quick rundown on why bubbles is scum? I still haven't read everything and right now I can't be bothered to either.

MTD · Post Post #1113 (isolation #36) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:14 am

nvm the first point, I didn't read the post right -.-

MTD · Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:49 am

In post 1114, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1112, MTD wrote:secondly I'd kind of like an answer to my question to dv before the day ends.

If you don't want me to talk about it then I'm not going to answer questions from you requiring that I do.

-.-

MTD · Post Post #1225 (isolation #38) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:07 am

MTD · Post Post #1252 (isolation #39) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:02 am

In post 1235, Fro99er wrote:
In post 1225, MTD wrote:Hi

Why no claim?

I wasn't popcorned yet so I was waiting for jarjar, should I claim first?

@dv: how do we know AA is town?

MTD · Post Post #1257 (isolation #40) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:10 am

I'm VT.

Last remaining is Espe then, or am I forgetting someone?

MTD · Post Post #1259 (isolation #41) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:16 am

So what I know right now is that fro99er is town, bella's claim is at least partially true and that jarjar has decent chances at being town.
All other things are unconfirmed as far as I can see or am I missing something?

MTD · Post Post #1305 (isolation #42) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:43 am

God frog, I'm a bit annoyed at jj too at times in here but that's no reason to be so agressive...

Also I'm still failing to see how either jj or espe are conftown..

MTD · Post Post #1311 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:50 am

In post 1307, Fro99er wrote:JarJar is town by play. You even said yourself he comes out looking better after the wanderer lynch.

Espe is town for recognizing BBT was trying to trap laladucks. There's no way scum says that to a scumbuddy. NONE. I'd be willing to stake the game on it.

Yep I am indeed still thinking jarjar is probstown, I'm just saying I'd in no way consider him conftown yet.
I can agree on espe, seems I missed that.

MTD · Post Post #1323 (isolation #44) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:23 am

VOTE: jarjar

Sorry, I retract that townread.
That's too blatant of rolefishing for my liking.

MTD · Post Post #1329 (isolation #45) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:29 am

What you said so far is that we lynch DV today and if he's town then me tomorrow. In my head that makes that both you and bella may very well be dead with scum still alive if jarjar is scum.
I don't like that outlook much.
Also yes, I trust you that youre town. No, I am not sure I trust your gamesense.

MTD · Post Post #1333 (isolation #46) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:38 am

In post 1330, Fro99er wrote:
In post 1329, MTD wrote:if he's town then me tomorrow

I never said you tomorrow.

That's a blatant lie.

You are correct, I apologize.

also youre pretty damn arrogant and I don't like that.

that said, fine, I will trust you on that and blame you afterwards.

VOTE: DV

MTD · Post Post #1336 (isolation #47) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:41 am

If it goes wrong.
And yes I know you see no way you could ever be wrong about this.

MTD · Post Post #1337 (isolation #48) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:42 am

In post 1335, Fro99er wrote:
In post 1333, MTD wrote:also youre pretty damn arrogant and I don't like that.

I'm arrogant because I have more information than anyone except Bella, but I'm controlling bella too because all will be revealed soon enough.

Bella did well to trust me.

I don't care why you are arrogant.
There is never a reason to be.

MTD · Post Post #1338 (isolation #49) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:42 am

But yeah that doesn't belong here, sorry.

MTD · Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:01 am

In post 1339, Fro99er wrote:Sure there is. It's my only way to convince you of my confidence in this plan.

No, gods no, trying to convince me does not mean being an ass is ok and great...

Also L-1 btw

MTD · Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:16 am

UNVOTE:

yes?

MTD · Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:32 am

you presume.
and I do to.
but he's just saying we could be wrong.
And that's possible.

MTD · Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:34 am

god dv is making me paranoid.

MTD · Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:38 am

of everyone else

MTD · Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:44 am

eh I'm fine with it
You unvoted and said you weren't sure about it so I did too, then well, dv made me think about how sure I am about the rest, and well, idk.
We can do it.

VOTE: dv

MTD · Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:45 am

eh why didn't i get that in preview?

MTD · Post Post #1384 (isolation #57) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:42 pm

heh <3

MTD · Post Post #1396 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:36 am

god youre like a broken record

MTD · Post Post #1408 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:51 am

In post 1399, Fro99er wrote:
In post 1396, MTD wrote:god youre like a broken record

die scum

<3 u 2

MTD · Post Post #1412 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:13 am

nods.

I'm presuming jarjar is scum.
I do think dv is town now.
outside chance is frogscum.

MTD · Post Post #1413 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:14 am

UNVOTE:

MTD · Post Post #1414 (isolation #62) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:15 am

what did i write there I meant espescum not frogscum

MTD · Post Post #1418 (isolation #63) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:25 am

I feel like right now he's just playing his game and not caring about how scummy or not he comes across.

re bella: It doesn't matter.
As in, we shouldn't lynch her today and tomorrow if there was vig she's conftown, if not she gets lynched.

MTD · Post Post #1421 (isolation #64) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:53 am

In post 1341, Fro99er wrote:If bella is not conftown tomorrow after she’s had several posts to explain, lynch her. However, I'm am 99% positive she will conftown tomorrow.

If she does conftown (it will become obvious after a few posts), she will leave instructions for the rest of the game tomorrow. Bella and I have night chat, so I will lay out detailed instructions for her. I trust her, I really do.

MTD · Post Post #1424 (isolation #65) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:56 am

yawn VOTE: jarjar if you lynch me he should at least be the shot tonight.

MTD · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:19 am

Great for you, I decided it doesn't fucking matter right now, and that's what I said.

MTD · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:59 am

Flabbeldiflubbflobb

Do you promise to shoot jarjar?

MTD · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:24 am

In post 1452, Fro99er wrote:Maybe. I didn't want to out her vig shot because now scum can no kill and frame her

I mean one would assume a vig or something similar on a joat anyway though?

MTD · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:26 am

At least I would have I think.

MTD · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:28 am

also it will be several hours till flip since timezones

MTD · Post Post #1495 (isolation #71) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:32 pm

yep gg y'all

thanks plot

this reminded me why I stopped playing mafia and will stop playing mafia again now~

oh also special sorry to fro99er for being a bit mean last day, most of that was trying to find any way to get town to discredit you since I couldn't have your plan happen

MTD · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:53 pm

In post 1497, Plotinus wrote:*hugs MTD* I wish it could have been more fun for you. Thanks for coming out of retirement for me <3

Heh, don't worry, it was decent fun, best were the mathy things ;P

I think I just don't like attacking and trying to deceive people (especially people I like

) even if its in a game.