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I am most suspicious of Lowell, karnos.
Him saying he would come back to hammer thor, yet he returned multiple times and didn't hammer until finally 4 hrs before eod that claims and Lowell finally had an excuse to not Lynch his encryptor
Lowell has been playing like scared bitch scum this entire game and he deserves rope-
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Why are you still trying to lead? You literally no lynched on d2 and gullible you ate up a bullshit tracker claim despite the scummy contradiction and situations I. E. No time for anyone to counter claim, and also previous statement that he wouldn't claim.In post 1388, MathBlade wrote:
I still expect an answer.In post 1382, MathBlade wrote:
That means shit. In 1800 I bussed you the entire time and practically taught you my bussing strategy so you know this is a flawed argument and you bring it up why?In post 1380, karnos wrote:
are you kidding? been trying to lynch this scum since day one. not going to slowplay it and risk someone getting cold feet.In post 1378, Nero Cain wrote:@Karnos why did you feel we needed to end the day?
You're not playing well, sit in the back and be quiet if you're town because if fa didn't flip tracker you would have lynched myself or karnos today I GUARANTEE IT.-
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I am definitely split between last scum in Sara or Lowell, it is really hard to narrow down, Lowell's play has been so poor and anti town I can't believe a real town player is responsible for it yet I can also believe I saw that stupid weak bus attempt from Saru when he built a case on thor yet at d2 he was parking his vote on lowell-
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Like use ur brain if u have one to exercise a little critical thinking you made like 3 negative EV plays for town in a row and then you're really trying to fos karnos? Karnos is practically confirmed town at this point if you actually read this game including myself and I would have said Aron if he wasn't deadIn post 1393, ironstove wrote:
Why are you still trying to lead? You literally no lynched on d2 and gullible you ate up a bullshit tracker claim despite the scummy contradiction and situations I. E. No time for anyone to counter claim, and also previous statement that he wouldn't claim.In post 1388, MathBlade wrote:
I still expect an answer.In post 1382, MathBlade wrote:
That means shit. In 1800 I bussed you the entire time and practically taught you my bussing strategy so you know this is a flawed argument and you bring it up why?In post 1380, karnos wrote:
are you kidding? been trying to lynch this scum since day one. not going to slowplay it and risk someone getting cold feet.In post 1378, Nero Cain wrote:@Karnos why did you feel we needed to end the day?
You're not playing well, sit in the back and be quiet if you're town because if fa didn't flip tracker you would have lynched myself or karnos today I GUARANTEE IT.-
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This post confirmed for me that you didn't read this game thread when you joined and you're still not reading it now.In post 1396, MathBlade wrote:
Last scum?In post 1394, ironstove wrote:I am definitely split between last scum in Sara or Lowell, it is really hard to narrow down, Lowell's play has been so poor and anti town I can't believe a real town player is responsible for it yet I can also believe I saw that stupid weak bus attempt from Saru when he built a case on thor yet at d2 he was parking his vote on lowell
Thor - Saru/Lowell + ?
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Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouth-
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Like am so fucking pissed off that town no lynched on d2, I don't care what the circumstances were for that last minute claim, even if he was really tracker he fucking deserves to die for doing that claim 4 hrs before eod and I specifically said to Lynch to avoid that scenario. I know between math and Lowell at least one if not both is town and that town's play has enraged me because they are both acting like they're playing well when their play has almost coated town the game from their D2-
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I tried being nice about this at d2 to push people to Lynch and explain why it is actually worse to no lynch than Lynch a town when a mislynch is available but people don't listen because they act like they're too fucking good at this game.
Like I don't FUCKING care if I get mod replaced I have already won fmpov it's these fucking shitty town players who are fucking idiots and can't fucking play the game correctly by listening to reason because they're so fucking obsessed with their conf bias and are basically more concerned with their egos than winning-
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I didn't screw up because the thor Nero Lynch wasn't happening. Yes it was an error in the sense that town was lynched but it solidified my scum read on Nero and thor.
I just said it is still the better play to Lynch someone you think is town than no lynch in the situation that a mislynch is available and people still chose to nl-
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Like I'll admit I'm not the best at explaining why someone is a scum read because a lot of it comes down to analyzing syntax and actions in past games so it really sounds ridiculous when I say in their scum game they changed vote actions 46 times but in their town game they made 16 actions as one of the elements in their scum read, so I don't bother mentioning it all I can try to do is look for reasons in their current game to help illustrate my reads-
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10 -> 8 -> 6
So we have 2 mislynches, let's just lynch nero and go next.
I"m pretty sure the guy is scum, he's 100% scum FMPOV now that thor has flipped
Mathblade is cleared so the last scum if nero flips is in {lowell, saru, penguin}.
I'm leaning towards saru/penguin right now.
I'm pretty sure bji is town as well now that I went back and saw the train that nero/thor/penguin ran on bji.-
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Town nero and scum nero are closely identical activity wise, and action wise, the real alignment indicator FMPOV boils down to content and this game looks like scum nero.In post 1443, karnos wrote:Nero was a lot more active when he was town in a previous game. Seems like he isn't doing much. But I still don't see why scum!nero would draw attention to the fact that he wasn't hammering Thor, unless that was just a play to create more WIFOM debates.-
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Hmm nevermind it looks like mod made an error.
We actually have 8 players left in this game, not 9.
In reality, we have 1 mislynch, then we are in mylo, and we are in mylo because town refused to lynch thor.
Had we lynched thor on D2, we would have had 9 players going into D3, and today, D4 would have 7 and it would be lylo today had we not lynched any scum prior.
Great work gang.
Also, math not sure WTF you're talking about saying NL was optimal in here.
Also, lynching who you think is town rather than NL IS still better because it gives you information while NL gives you 0 information in terms of associations, interactions, and votes and allows scum to pick their target.-
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8 players, 2 of which are scum, so tomorrow will be 4 players and 2 scum if we don't lynch sum today, that's MYLO.
Also, I never said LYLO.
And also, NERO IS OBVIOUS SCUM, SO LYNCH NERO HOLY GOD.
Karnos clearly said he hammered thor so that people couldn't form resistance to stop his lynch again like they did on D1 and D2. Karnos and I have been trying to lynch thor the entire game and you have been standing in our way the entire time. Today you receive the rope, and if you're town you clearly need to learn to play better because this is well-deserved for also allowing a NL to happen.-
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HOLY HELL YOU'RE SO FUCKING BASDGHDASGHASDKJGHKLD;SA;HWEGHSoihgHOGI[WAEHOanIn post 1459, MathBlade wrote:You might just be scum ironstone.
Wow that post was horrible.Nero is obvtown.-
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What do you mean we can't partner hunt? What exactly are we doing RIGHT NOW?!?!?In post 1465, MathBlade wrote:
No PP is town and so is Saru.In post 1461, Nero Cain wrote:
like do you really think scum would pass up the opportunity to hard bus and get town cred here?In post 1383, Foxbird wrote:Thor665 (6) - MathBlade, aronagrundy, PenguinPower, Saru, bji, karnos (LYNCH!)
There's scum within PP, Saru, BJ and Karnos.
If I were to guess it would be PP and Karnos.
Karnos is likely scum for that horrible day end hammer that didn't let us partner hunt.-
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In post 1470, ironstove wrote:TFW confirmed town is on the opposite page as you and believes you were bussing scum since D1
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You guys are voting for karnos because he quick hammered even though thor was confirmed scum? That's your reasoning for why he's scum?
Not only is this incredibly weak logic and reasoning, but people who are believing it or say they believe it are hilarious really.
Ok, this game drove me over the hill. I'm over it.-
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In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.In post 1484, ironstove wrote:I'm hard claiming scum. Me and karnos are the team. LYNCH US BOTH. You're all too smart.-
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In post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouthIn post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouthIn post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouthIn post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouthIn post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouthIn post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouthIn post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouthIn post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouthIn post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouthIn post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouthIn post 1399, ironstove wrote:Honestly players like you math are the most toxic element in mafia scum because you act and play like you have read all of the information to make decisions and have an impact but in reality you are like one of those ppl that get their news from Yahoo Frontpage yet you feel knowledgeable enough to argue about world issues with others and leave people like me astounded and angry and wondering where you get the idea that it is OK to open your mouth-
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No, I'm being serious. I thought I could fool you, but tbh I can't handle the pressure, you cracked the game wide open.In post 1489, MathBlade wrote:So I take it you concede?
Or is this a joke?
Again if you think karnos is town make an argument.-
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Why is it breaking your heart?
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All of it for town cred.In post 1548, PenguinPower wrote:
Ugh...I'm going to have a stove-tantrum.In post 1546, MathBlade wrote:
Yes. Because I was asking Karnos I was going to get to who was in the D3 spot. It'd come out regardless. Trying for townie points me thinks.In post 1543, PenguinPower wrote:Like, if I'm scum, I literally brought to your attention that I was the only one who could be scum.
Good job, PP. You are awesome at playing against wincon!
So far, scum!me has:
1.) Openly stated that scum!Thor was his strongest town read
2.) Refused to lynch his strongest town lynch participating in causing a no lynch and calling attention to myself.
3.) Called myself out as part of the neighborhood when I could have refuted karnos' claim given he was scum read and I was townread.
3.) Afterwards, verbally vomited the neighborhood information, clarifying to scum!me's detriment, incorrect statements by MB that I could easily refute.
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If you're going to continue talking about lynching karnos then lynch me first because you literally have not read anything in this game.
Scum is Saru 100%, I am almost sure about Nero but I'll revisit and rebuild the case as well.
I hate building cases, it's tedious and I feel like I'm doing the work that other people should be doing, but let me hold your hand and explain everything for you on why Karnos is town.
Like I don't want to go through every single post but 389 ,392 , 411, 418,
pretty much clearly draw a line of who karnos is in this game. These are not scum motivated posts, and not posts that feel like a scum!karnos would make.
Then regarding saru, the posts I highlighted above make him look relatively scummy until : 515, 519, and 662.
These posts are super towny, at least I thought up until the point that thor flipped encryptor. I imagine it's possible that Saru received some coaching from daychat to formulate the posts I wrote above. I say this because Saru has remained extremely inconsistent. He says he's left handed but still writes with his right.
like 673, he indicates that KnightyKnight is a scum read despite the fact that knight's vote is parked on the Thor slot. Interesting that Saru says in 662 'I am almost certain that Thor is scum' and in the following post tries to FOS someone who is voting someone who voting a slot whom 'he is almost certain is scum'. Clearly a major slip here.
Major actions on why nero/saru are most likely scum this game:
1. Nero pushing the heavy mal lynch, off of his partners saru and thor. Yet he knows this is a slot that can't claim, we're lynching this slot for inactivity... Incredibly scummy wagon, yet he calls out karnos as scummy for voting thor with no chance for town to discuss even though we're discussing right now, so what's the issue? My belief is that this was because thor/saru are the PRs, like thor is obviously encryptor, but saru has to be roleblocker at this point.
Nero also made 772 which I would say clears penguin if nero flips scum, and implicates saru further.
2. Saru indicating 662 which was made sense up until it came time to stand by his words, he parked his vote on lowel, who was neither knightyknight, or thor, when thor was in hammer range. I.e. 1260 he says giving intent to hammer and he returns and doesn't hammer. Thor follows in with a scummy tracker claim and then saru makes this disgusting post in 1339 trying to pin the nl on lowell, when his inaction caused the result as well, using the tracker claim as an excuse LOL.
Now we're here in D4, nero is trying to ML karnos saying the quickhammer killed town discussion and disallowed scum hunting. This is a bullshit excuse and those of you that are buying it are fools because quick hammering in that situation DOES NOTHING but stop THOR WHO HAS AVOIDED BEING THE LYNCH FOR 2 DAYS IN A ROW FROM GETTING AWAY A 3RD DAY. AND WE CAN EASILY SCUM HUNT THE FOLLOWING DAY.
In all seriousness, please explain to me 1 reason why quick hammering there is so bad? What could we have done then that we can't do today? NOTHING.
So I say lynch between {saru, nero}, if either one flips town, we need to reassess the {lowell, penguin} pool, but at this point, town are in {bji, karnos, math}-
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All I'm saying is that nothing is a stronger indicator of scum to me than saying 'I have a very, very strong scum read on X' but when it comes time to hammer X you stall and delay for and try to find a way out of it like Saru did.
Then nero's logic for trying to lynch town applies to himself and the mislynch he led on mal, but he's conveniently forgotten about it, how is it not scummy to suggest a lynch on someone who has been AFK from the game and won't claim before hammer? What if we hammered our doctor or cop? I'm sure nero would have been fine with that. I wasn't, I tried to fight the lynch, but it was the only lynch happening so my thought process was "I would rather mislynch the cop so I can build a case tomorrow on nero, than have a no lynch and have no information to go on the following day", so I bit.
Nero refused karnos' suggestion on mal 'Why don't you just let him live today and see if he replaces out? You refused to lynch the tracer slot (Who is now thor, surprise surprise?) for being AFK, yet you want to lynch mal rather than letting him veg till he's replaced and without a chance to claim?'
To this nero said mal was active in other games, but still couldn't justify why it was better to lynch than let the guy veg another day and be replaced. If he prod-dodged then we would have then seriously taken into consideration lynching mal, but wasting D1 lynch on him only confirmed FMPOV that the thor wagon was real scum, and that nero was real scum protecting his PR partner.-
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You're honestly doing nothing but trying to lynch town, and it's scummy as fuck.In post 1554, MathBlade wrote:
That is quite possible but my sister Titus gave me some advice of listen to your town reads. Stove was a tow lock before I pushed Karnos so I have calmed down and gave it a shot from a different angle.In post 1552, PenguinPower wrote:Ugh...I'm done. I've made my points...your vote and logic are bad. Like, bad bad.
I agree that one of me and karnos is scum. Karnos is scum, and flipping him will give us one more mislynch to find the remaining Lynch me, and then you will be lynching karnos and have no buffer to find the remaining.
The rest of the town can decide now. I've made my case.
One of you and Karnos is scum and the Arona kill N3 makes it much more likely it is you.
I already said that the biggest suspect of flipping scum is nero, followed by saru/lowell.-
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I believe it's more saru than lowell now at this point because Saru has tried to create a case on lowell citing reasons which also apply to himself, he's called lowell out for some scummy behavior that he himself does, so that's a big slip IMO that needs to be explored.
We also get TREMENDOUS information from lynching nero at this point in the game from the amount of posts he has with other players. I personally believe that Saru is the PR and nero is a weaker PR or goon, but lynching NERO, even if he somehow flips town will result in us finding the real scum.-
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How can you guys be lynching thor for a quick hammer that literally made 0 impact on the game 'because quick hammer is so scummy omg'
Yet you're all totally ignoring the mal mislynch, the stall on thor's hammer, the obvious inconsistency in voting, and the other minor slips that all add up to a much stronger case? Karnos has literally done nothing scummy this entire game besides seem lurky, but activity is hardly a reason to lynch him over other players whose ACTIONS have said more to their alignment than their activity has.-
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Or lynch ME if you're going to continue talking about lynching karnos because I don't want to be in this game anymore. I'M FUCKING OVER IT. If after that fucking wall of text I wrote above which DRAINED ME, you're still going to think like a bunch of mongs 'DURRR, NERO RIGHT! QUICK HAMMER MUS BE SCUM!! MISLYNCH AFK NOT SCUM!' There is seriously something wrong with all of you, or maybe it's me, but I just can't mesh on this site. I feel like I'm talking to a wall with some people on here.-
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Yea, my 2 major scum reads either of which I'm happy to lynch and you're seriously calling me out for this LOL.In post 1562, PenguinPower wrote:@IS: Scum is 100% Saru and almost sure Nero. Yet vote is on Nero.
See, that stuff above? This is exactly what I'm talking about, you missed the ENTIRE BODY OF MY MESSAGE.-
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Yea, I was 100% sure on nero as well, but Karnos somehow thinks that nero is town which doesn't make any sense to me. I need karnos to explain that. So nero went from 100% scum to 95% scum.
Saru went from 95% scum, to 100% scum.
I'm still confident enough in both reads to vote either, but you know what I want to know? Why do you care???
Like, seirously penguin? Why is that the one thing that sticks out to you? I'd view this as a minor detail, but it seems like you're really bothered by the fact that I'm voting Nero and not Saru. Like, you REALLY, REALLY want me to be voting Saru instead of nero to be calling me out on that post, like rather than refuting or discussing any of the points I made, the first thing you post to me is "Why are you voting Saru?"
So this makes me very curious. So curious in fact that now I want to keep my vote on Nero for the rest of today and see what he flips of the lynch goes through. And if you're scum reading me for voting for the person I'm currently 95% sure is scum rather than the person I'm 100% sure is scum, then PLEASE, vote for me. LIKE I'M BEGGING YOU TO VOTE FOR ME IF THAT'S THE REASON YOU SCUM READ ME.-
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So you care that I'm voting for nero because you want me to actually be voting for karnos, but if that's the case, then why did you ask me:
This sounds like you wanted me to be voting saru, but now it just sounds like you wanted me to not be voting nero.In post 1562, PenguinPower wrote:@IS: Scum is 100% Saru and almost sure Nero. Yet vote is on Nero.
Why didn't you ask me in 1562 to vote karnos?
And now you're asking me to vote karnos right now after I ask you why not nero? Then I ask you to explain and you're saying "I refuse go look at my ISO" and also ignoring my other questions. What gives penguin? IS it because you're scum?-
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hmmm.... trying to regurgitate what I said? lul.In post 1576, PenguinPower wrote:Then you didn't actually read it.
1400ish? Which specifically? 1471, 1495, or 1496? You have 3 posts in the 1400 range, it wasn't hard for me to read them, and BTW I read your posts from your first all the way up to post 800 while I was going through Saru/Nero already, and I read you back all the way again to post 1100 so IDK what you are talking about.In post 1579, PenguinPower wrote:1. My comment on your Saru vote while throwing shade at Nero is potentially scummy given an IS/Nero team. You should always vote your top scum read.
2. Why would I? That had nothing to do with what I was trying to convey.
3. Because I think karnos is scum...I just looked at my ISO, and my reason is readily available in the post ~1400ish. So, yeah, you go find it.
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