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ironstove Mafia Scum
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I think ita a perfectly sound explanation for why PP would want Karnos to be added.In post 1922, ironstove wrote:That aron would recruit both scum into the PT and even if he did, why them having day chat when they've already had day chat for pretty much the whole game should implicate that they're both scum. I'm not really seeing a reason behind that.
I don't see how its any different than a Nero is scum with X b/c he/they said/did this.In post 1923, ironstove wrote:On top of that, it's all hypothetical theory that can't be falsified or checked until after the game, so it seems like a waste of time to even discuss it let alone push for why X and Y are a scum team.
good thing I'm not even defending him.In post 1924, ironstove wrote:
Btw, nice job coming to your partner's defense.In post 1917, Nero Cain wrote:
So are you saying that its a me + Karnos team? Do you think scumKarnos would be above attempting to manipulate you on my lynch? Whst do you think of my 1866?In post 1909, ironstove wrote:Karnos keeps saying he thinks nero is scum, but keeps driving the wagon off nero.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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karnos Mafia Scum
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does the term "busing" mean anything to you?In post 1925, ironstove wrote:I find it funny that karnos was voting for penguin when his top scum read, nero was also on the wagon lol. Very amusing.-
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karnos Mafia Scum
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Interesting theory. If PP and I were both scum, we could say whatever we wanted to say about what was said in the topic and no living player could argue it. In that case, why would penguin say that he asked for me to be added? Why would I collaborate his story?In post 1926, Nero Cain wrote:
I think ita a perfectly sound explanation for why PP would want Karnos to be added.In post 1922, ironstove wrote:That aron would recruit both scum into the PT and even if he did, why them having day chat when they've already had day chat for pretty much the whole game should implicate that they're both scum. I'm not really seeing a reason behind that.
Penguin might be scum, my recent case on Lowell isn't 100% conclusive, but obviously I know I am not scum and I think even from an outsider perspective the idea should look insane.-
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PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
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No, I was. His list was backwards from everyone else's, but I see the qualifier following now.In post 1898, MathBlade wrote:
Surely not Saru who said they were scum reading Nero.
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No you won't. You should probably replace out.In post 1930, Lowell wrote:prodge, weekends are bad. still would prefer penguin, but will catch up.-
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You probably should to, but lurking is a valid scum tactic which you appear to be utilizing.In post 1932, Saru wrote:Also prodge. Also prefer Penguin, but wouldn't cry over Nero. Also ew mobile posting. This shit is annoying. Never again.
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@mod: Requesting that anyone that doesn't make posts with content in 48 hours from this post be prodded. Prod dodge is not enough
I can think of a couple of reasons scum PP and you would but those are theories ATM. And they require a lot of coincidence. Not something I am considering ATM.
Probably Penguin and Lowell and Penguin is frustrated his buddy won't move his vote or make effort.-
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bji Mafia Scum
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Penguin did a lot of work to avoid his lynch this weekend. The "someone please hammer me" dramatics could easily be fake, given that no one was going to jump ahead of Math and hammer anyone. I'm still more sold on the Nero lynch than the Penguin lynch though. Let me reiterate my case on Nero, so that it's very clear:In post 1934, MathBlade wrote:Prod dodge. I prefer Penguin as I think Nero is town.
- He started a wagon on what turned out to be a bad mislynch and which I think could have been identified as a bad mislynch at the time
- He is the only one to have explicitly called Mal scum, everyone else recognized it as a policy lynch. To me this could easily be a slip, overplaying his hand.
- He started that wagon right after FA claimed. The chances that FA was going to be lynched after claiming were low, anyone could have seen that, and Nero's first vote after the FA claim was the start of the Mal mislynch wagon, "coincidentally" timed right when scum needed a better wagon than the FA wagon.
-Spoiler: Thor/Nero interactions
- Joined the Penguin wagon at L-1 with no previously expressed suspicion of Penguin. This was as good as a hammer because Math had already expressed intent to hammer Penguin
- Has lied repeatedly when attempting to defend himself from my case on him, look at my ISO and search for the word "lie", it's all clearly laid out. Note: one occurrence is in a spoiler tag post 1089 so a simple search won't find it.-
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bji Mafia Scum
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By the way I think this clearly indicates that { Penguin, Nero } is not the scum team. I don't see Nero essentially hammering Penguin when he had no case for him previously, there is no benefit for Nero to bus Penguin in this way.In post 1939, bji wrote:- Joined the Penguin wagon at L-1 with no previously expressed suspicion of Penguin. This was as good as a hammer because Math had already expressed intent to hammer Penguin
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Also it appears that Math came to basically the same conclusion, with further supporting evidence from 1822:
"This means likely only one of Nero and Penguin is scum and the other is town. Of the two, ironstove is much more adamant that Nero is scum. Both Nero and Penguin attacked bji in the mid 1000s range. However Penguin was the one who was caught deliberately lying about the state of the policy lynch 1089 This would make bji the counter wagon for Thor and make him town."
Note that Math was wrong about Penguin being the one caught deliberately lying about the state of the policy lynch, it was Nero who did that, as has been established by further discussion.-
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karnos Mafia Scum
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Let me help you out a little. It's not me.In post 1942, karnos wrote:It hurts my head to keep trying to figure out which one is more scummy.-
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In post 1930, Lowell wrote:prodge, weekends are bad. still would prefer penguin, but will catch up.
Jesus christ, both of you are little shits who need to change your vote instead of coming into the thread to dodge prods, HOLY FUCK.In post 1932, Saru wrote:Also prodge. Also prefer Penguin, but wouldn't cry over Nero. Also ew mobile posting. This shit is annoying. Never again.
VOTE: SARU-
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In post 1937, MathBlade wrote:@mod: Requesting that anyone that doesn't make posts with content in 48 hours from this post be prodded. Prod dodge is not enoughIf three more players privately message me their approval, I will add this to the rules.
To reiterate: this isnota public vote. PM me.-
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If PP had a solid town read on you for "tunneling Thor" why do you think he voted you at the beginning of the day?In post 1929, karnos wrote:In that case, why would penguin say that he asked for me to be added? Why would I collaborate his story?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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There is no way Karnos is town. That hammer on Thor was deff a bus. He's really who we should be voting for today but no one will do it.In post 1937, MathBlade wrote:Probably Penguin and Lowell and Penguin is frustrated his buddy won't move his vote or make effort.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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