Still your conversations ended pages ago. These new pages added nothing that you could possibly use to develop your opinion about him.In post 1143, Pepchoninga wrote:And I already told you why. Firstly his sudden lynch on me. I don't read him for lynching me, but for:
1: not giving a reasonable explanation for the lynch
2: ignoring the questions I had regarding the situation.
Another things that triggered me were his reads. As previously said he was changing them every couple of posts. Really strange. And then you add some of the other arguments I read from your argument with him and I have solid reasons to grow a SR on him.
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and he didn't quote the posts he was supposed to qutoeIn post 1148, Anotora wrote:
(quote bolded by myself)In post 1146, Pepchoninga wrote:Anotora wrote: I mean I guess that's an argument for me and -Grey- being a scumteam, if you had legit reasons to scumread me in the first place, before all this business.Well yes, I did. If you'd like to hear I will make a post about it.My opinion on you hasn't really changed. A scum partnership between you two is possible. Yes, this could be an argument for that, but I'm not acusing you of being scum buddies.
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tell me where you settled down on your scum read on greyIn post 1161, Pepchoninga wrote:And so what? Just because there are new pages, doesn't mean the old ones are erased. And he hasn't acted much different so I don't know why you are even bringing this up.
pedit : You promised you would quote anotora posts which were showing they were calm and had no fear of getting lynched when grey started pushing you.
and what comments do you like to hear? I genuinely think your case is fake and is just an attempt to look constant. I don't like the way you shwn intrest over saj comment and skipped my questions there repeatedly. I thought that's obvious.False tears bring pain to those around you
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look consistent* by the way not constant - phone auto correction
and sure will check it soon.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I have seprate independent concerns about RC and Grey as well but not for even similar reasons. I'm sorry if you felt I'm trying to harass you but me asking questions repeatedly is to check your consistency and the fact if you believe it or not.
can you tell me by saying a post number? Just somehow tell me - after this I felt grey is likely scum and not null.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I read 28 and 29
I don't see that. Anotora was just literally continuing their already well defined case and push on you and they were consistent with their stance for not claiming. I didn't see the behavioral change you are repeatedly referring to. if there is any specific post that gave you that impression please quote it.False tears bring pain to those around you
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stop throwing shade. Me - you interaction were completely independent from anotora pepe and its practically obvious.In post 1169, -Grey- wrote:
No she's not.In post 996, Alisae wrote:No you're just being an idiot.
She's trying to disrupt the wagon on her buddy. After he loses a few votes, she'll act all contrite and try to renew her push on me.
I can see right through her.
You still have questions to answer and you're independently a scum read of mine. probably with saj. - I hate partner hunting before flips though.
oh and the offer still stands. consider me voting myself as well.False tears bring pain to those around you
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oh and if by any chance you're town "no you can't "
There is a list of name in my notebooks who claim they have me in bag and stuff but they just suck at that - as in every game we play they failed.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I can confirm that jin is not KT and I'm 90% sure that Jin is not an alt. he is no newbie though.False tears bring pain to those around you
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This makes no sense.In post 1183, -Grey- wrote:For example, look how big the Pepto wagon got... and over what, exactly? Pretty much nothing.
Notice there's no real counterwagon, either. The only pushback from it was an OMGUS against me, which scum would know would never pan out.
Pep wagon is a mislynch.
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Why your explaining a theory if you wish for his explanation?In post 1186, Pepchoninga wrote:Actually, I got a thoery. Only way I see this being a town strategy is maybe you never belived I was scum? You started the wagon to get scum on it and get them from there? Only thing I could think off. If it is true it is quite an ambitius idea, but if not you scream scum with all this.
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so why you're not thinking quietly so you can actually evaluate his answer with that?
This is ehhh in so many levels. You shouldn't give an answer to the one you're testing.False tears bring pain to those around you
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As much as I like to see RC live, you all must know that if he is scum this game is already lost
anyway,
Grey; You simply can't call your whole game-play and pov a way for testing people. You simply are not allowed to do that in any manner as either alignment. It's lame and not believable. It feels dodgy and incredibly fake. And you know what? You can't skate from this!
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Whose alt are you? o.o
I'm really curios to know.False tears bring pain to those around you
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NahIn post 1232, -Grey- wrote:
Sure I can. It's what town DOES.In post 1229, Frozen Angel wrote:Grey; You simply can't call your whole game-play and pov a way for testing people.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I don't believe you.
and yeah they test people and stuff; They don't practically claim everything about their reads are lies in the way you did. That's just absurd.False tears bring pain to those around you
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Here you called you're whole case about pep a trickIn post 1183, -Grey- wrote:For example, look how big the Pepto wagon got...and over what, exactly? Pretty much nothing.
Notice there's no real counterwagon, either. The only pushback from it was an OMGUS against me, which scum would know would never pan out.
Pep wagon is a mislynch.
That's why I like Frozen's Jin vote.
Here you practically claimed you weren't even scumreading pep in the first placeIn post 1196, -Grey- wrote:For example, if I point out how my wagon on you was a gigantic experiment, all you will do is say, "ah but you're only saying that because I brought it up first", even though you're quoting the very post where I point it out as one.
and here you literally just said the last read lists - which I was so sure they were fake cause you weren't providing logical reason for making them the way you were - were fake.In post 1219, -Grey- wrote:{-Grey-}
{RadiantCowbells, Garmr}
{Firebringer, Frozen Angel}
{Obvious Alt, kentofan, Anotora, Pepto Ninja}
{Srceenplay, Alisae, mlmooney89}
{Jin}
Reads without the head games.
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You mean aliesa is planning to use pep probably green flip as a tool to hide Jin scumminess?In post 1239, -Grey- wrote:
In the event Jin flips red, please lynch here because this is probably distancing.In post 1061, Alisae wrote:
In the event of a scum lynch, please look here, because this is probably a bus.In post 1058, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Ill vote Pepito but i swear if he flips green then i will have to be carried out on my shield before i ever stop pushing the Grey wagon the rest of the game.
VOTE: Pepchoninga
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anotora assumed bus as well
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cause anotora is in a higher tier than aliese in your read list and that "you missed their post" is not the default assumption about stuff
here :
In post 1147, Anotora wrote:Well, FA, since Pepcho is now defending SAJ's approach, I'm gonna go with bus rather than just anti-town.False tears bring pain to those around you
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that makes sense
why alisae was a scum lean before that post? - sorry but I really can't remember your points about them
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In post 1262, -Grey- wrote:
Since you think Jin was bussing in his Pep vote, why a you voting Jin now?In post 1259, Alisae wrote:Well you are right he was a PR.Lie !!!!
#joking
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seriously; though I like Jin more than pep but I don't understand how you're this confident pep is town over that naked vote.
aliese was scumreading keyen slot even before jin replace in - so I don't see you're point about him being opportunistic.False tears bring pain to those around you
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that's the joke.In post 1265, Alisae wrote:I think he just missed it.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I didn't said that in that post.
You are a scum lean yes. I don't like the way you suddenly presented a case on Grey after us pushing Jin. The timings don't match up - as you said grey was null (up and down kinda null) but now he got a scumread - when all your points were old and You even expressed agreement with someone else for same reasons but you never expressed those as a reason to scumreading Grey before then.
Plus I didn't like the way you reffered to you asking claim as a reaction test.
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@Mandy They usually last till the very end of 2 weeks but they're not usually this active.False tears bring pain to those around you
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Usually people are more silent than this - so they get a lynch done late. Well, games are different. I saw flash lynching someone in page 3 in a game of mafia as well. It really depend of the game and players in it.In post 1292, mlmooney89 wrote:But... But... I thought as soon as we lynch someone the day is done. These games are normal to play out the entire two weeks for day one?
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@mod this is still messed up btwIn post 1276, Alisae wrote:
Oh no he hasn't posted for one day he must be lurkingIn post 1272, Pepchoninga wrote:Uuuu, strange vote, tho I am interested where did the guy go. He said he will come and catch up, yet he is nowhere to be found.
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and I messed it up more
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sure!In post 1297, Frozen Angel wrote:I need a cookie.False tears bring pain to those around you
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sure alisae!
I've been around a lot. I played like 50 games past year onsite so it's not really impossible if we did - but I can't recall if any.In post 1307, PantherPunt wrote:
Hey. Your name is familiar but I'm not recalling that we've played a game - do you know if we have?In post 1304, Frozen Angel wrote:hello panther!False tears bring pain to those around you
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Fire what is your read on Jin
have you read my case on him?False tears bring pain to those around you
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nope. All the games are frozen angel.In post 1310, Firebringer wrote:Frozen angel is ALL the games.False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 1058, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Ill vote Pepito but i swear if he flips green then i will have to be carried out on my shield before i ever stop pushing the Grey wagon the rest of the game.
VOTE: PepchoningaIn post 1064, Frozen Angel wrote:You say you believe pep is town and you want to lynch him to justify your pushing grey in a next day. and your entire case on grey had no relation to pep at all - It was all about my slot.In post 1068, Frozen Angel wrote:VOTE: secret agent Jin
that post was so bad ... So bad
Pep answer my questionsIn post 1078, Frozen Angel wrote:
- He is voting pep cause people said they want to move on with the day - but his slot has no reason to want that - contradiction #1In post 1073, Anotora wrote:FA, I'm not seeing the post where SAJ reads Pepcho as town. Yes, SAJ ought to put more explanation into his vote, but it's not as scummy as if he had contradicted his own read.
- His case on grey in this post
perfectly implies that he is unsatisfied with greys pep push. - he practically contradicted his own case by voting like that.In post 912, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Besides the rude, blatant question-ignoring, hand waving that Grey is doing time after time and the insistence that Pepperoni Ronin be pushed to a lynch, he goes and does the quoted above. He says FA isnt viewed as scum yet he calls her scum on the same page, like two posts later. This needs to die today
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aliese thinks it can be a bus on pep and I can't remove that as a possibility spescially looking at how pep reacted before and after that post.
Grey thinks aliese was trying to distance from Jin by proposing its a bus and a pep lynch will prove jin's agenda (pep was main wagon then - think it is still not sure on VC)
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and grey practically claimed his whole stance against pep (and me - kinda/ it felt that way though he denied it later) was a reaction test that I have a hard time believing it.
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oh so your reads are based on your scumread on me and you won't vote me day 1 even when I asked you to and told you it's ok.In post 1354, RadiantCowbells wrote:Grey, get off of SAJ, the fuck. Do you really think that FA is going to this much effort to bus a slot like that?
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You didn't even refereed to my points about SAJ. That post was terrible and scummy as fuck. what is the underline is going to even mean?In post 1355, RadiantCowbells wrote:And don't get me wrong: I think that Key's play pre-replace out was pretty scummy butI'm fine with SAJ's play so far.
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Evereyone who can Iso saj can see he pretty much did no shit but voting grey after joining the game cause he was rude and he was dodging questions, then sheeping your attempt to end the day when for his slot - He shoulcn't have any desire to do that when he did no crap day 1. and You were pushing a flash wagon when a slot in game was totally empty.
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Oh are you trying to force me to test my own medicine?
I don't want you to defend yourself. I want you to defend and push your case and points.
Is that so much to ask?
@Aliese I don't do preflip assosciation assumptions, never cause I know there is a decent chance for them being total crap.
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Did you read my post about him?In post 1442, RadiantCowbells wrote:terrible reasoning.
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I think this post is posted based on your assumption that I'm scum. If not please clarify. If yes Your vote means nothing till I'm alive so vote me instead if your truthful.In post 1448, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Grey
This slot needs to be dead. I still think it's town but if this guy stays alive the game is most likely a town loss because scum aren't nightkilling him ever.False tears bring pain to those around you
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Fire tell annie to vote me cause he is screaming I'm scum and he is soving the whole game based on that but he has no intention to make me flip for whatever reasonIn post 1449, Firebringer wrote:
To get people to work together you gotta make concessions and that means sacrifices man. Not optimal but hey that's the game.In post 1446, -Grey- wrote:But why would you sacrifice a slot that would be cleared with a red flip?
Tell him this is just a game and a lynch on my slot is understandable but that behavior [if he is town] is not
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Jhin? You mean Jin? I thought you were thinking he is a counter wagon because you think I'm scum. Again You are saying thats the whole scum team in your eyes - and that is mainly based on your assumption that I'm scum but you are saying you are not comfortable with lynching me.In post 1455, RadiantCowbells wrote:
I currently think the scumteam is FA/Pepto/Jhin, yes.In post 1451, Frozen Angel wrote:
I think this post is posted based on your assumption that I'm scum. If not please clarify. If yes Your vote means nothing till I'm alive so vote me instead if your truthful.In post 1448, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Grey
This slot needs to be dead. I still think it's town but if this guy stays alive the game is most likely a town loss because scum aren't nightkilling him ever.
But the only person in that trio I can lynch without autolosing the game because of how weak town's reads are (assuming I'm correct) is Pepto.
Otherwise I can lynch obstacles to that scumteam and see what happens.
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I love you to <3In post 1460, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wait you're saying that if I asked my favorite hydra partner and one of my favourite players in general to play a game I won't want to lynch them day 1?
but this is just a game. If you scumread me and you're basing every single read of yours on that, You need to present a decent case and to vote me.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I want you to answer this : My main two scum reads are pep and Jin and I prefectly told that.In post 1464, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yes, the wagon on him is terrible because Pepto is a way better wagon and I don't like how tomorrow will pan out if I'm correct about the scumteam.
Do I ever make sense to anyone who isn't me?
Are you accusing me that I'm bussing my both scum mates? cause although I can do that; I don't think I'm tat devil
You said Jin is a counterwagon on Pep. Do you have any reasons beside "Frozen is scum so it should be" for that? What is your opinion on my presented case about Jin?
what do you think about Grey's "My whole push on pep was a reaction test" thingi?False tears bring pain to those around you
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What game are you referring to?False tears bring pain to those around you
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He means you won't ever vote me, that's why he is saying your dangerous to townIn post 1470, -Grey- wrote:That would be 100000% more believable if I was pushing outside of your stated scumreads.
which is really sweet! cause he won't vote me as well!
Like holy crap RC.False tears bring pain to those around you
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My whole point about him dodging questions went out of the window when he claimed he was just reaction testing with fake read listsIn post 1472, Alisae wrote:Frozen. I'm not convinced on scum!Grey.
But his fake read lists make no sense as well so I will keep him as a null - slight scum read for now.
pedit : oO
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If there is any other cop Don't CC today ... a cop claim is forced to give us information anyway which is helpful for the game. and as I'm suspecting this game is heavily full of "inspecting" roles think thrice before CC'ing - cause he claimed a "Weak Vanilla cop" and nothing else.
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what the fuck you were saying you don't beleive he is scum
if you are town your suggestion will put us in lyloFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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Like you can't be like this RCFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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And I love you however you are! <3In post 1492, RadiantCowbells wrote:I will be how I want to be.
Sorry you got a red pm RCFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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I am obviously town - to me maybeIn post 1496, RadiantCowbells wrote:Firebringer, remember FA's posts on the last 2 pages if you doubt that she's scum.
If you beleive otherwise you will vote me right here
You agreed with my both scum reads - after calling one of them a counter wagon cause I launched it then you voted someone cause you think their dengrauos for town for not voting me when you aren't voting me yourself. They claimed a weak cop which perfectly match with my role stopper and will confirm someone as town or scum but you refused to let that happen cause you think I'm scum and the whole investiagtion is a setup
and you refuse to vote me anyway. I am asking you to vote me. Why your not voting me when all your case and play is based on that?False tears bring pain to those around you
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checking RC is the best course of action an investigative role can do periodFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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You could confirm me and my claim with your ability tonight and we could use my 1 shot ability in n2.
There was a good chance that you weren't in danger of getting killed tonight.False tears bring pain to those around you
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