You're wrong thereIn post 88, Transcend wrote:i think alisae's town
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he received a scum role pmIn post 140, Dunnstral wrote:go on-
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Transcend - reads are ok, maybe town, kinda tryharding tho so paranoid of this
gerryoat - tryharding, probscum for it
Darklyn - obvtown
Juri - dunno, maybe town
Trivium - null
Crash - null
Impoetic - obvtown, this just isn't her scum play, i'd know considering we hydra'd as scum
projectmatt - scum, most posts are posturing
Dunnstral - null
JaeReed - me!
nancy - null
Alisae - scum, I can read this with scary accuracy, trans he was trying to buddy you earlier and there are also partner pings with matt if you check
usagichan - null
if you want a free scum lynch then it's Ali, if you want to save him for later that's fine too just remember he's scum when i'm nightkilled.
pedit trans you always scumread me early game, i wouldn't play this way as scum so you're wasting your time
pedit2 lol ok that was actually funny-
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lol it's not your town game, has nothing to do with the towntell. Sorry dunno what to tell ya, there was too much posturing going on and buddy attempts, and the defense of pjm was cuteIn post 150, Alisae wrote:Jae, are you actually going to give me a reason other then I didn't drop your super secret super special awesome towntell you have on me or are you just going to sit here saying "Ali is scum."
why are you giving reasons for anything?Transcend wrote:i kinda think he's town because i don't know why scum!him would vote impoetic after the wagon on her disintegrated-
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fun fact: dunnstral has been mafia with me before. he knows this isn't my scum play.
but i don't feel like omgus reading him because iirc sometimes he just doesn't take the 2 seconds to think about how it can't be my scum play (QC maf for example)-
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i've been waiting for a vc, i dont like yolo voting v muchIn post 200, Transcend wrote:VOTE: alisae
jaereed your scumread reacted really crappily to the pressure on him
come vote with me-
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In post 87, Alisae wrote:50 - Why? @Dark
51 - Why? @Dunn
52 - A. Don't like the shades of oppertunism being shown here. B. VOTE: Impo 38 and 42 seem like you're talking to someone you think is town. Why the sudden change?
54 - Why is he scum again? Educate me.
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79 - I don't read them as either alignment personally.In post 99, Alisae wrote:projectmatt more like projectrena more like projectpsycho eeeeeeeey
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Yeah this is most likely town.
@Trans if you also look he doesn't hunt pjm iircIn post 105, Alisae wrote:I don't got one as of yet tbh.
hold on
/me isos
Don't really understand what he saw in 56?
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I could, but I'm lazy to do so tbh.In post 202, Impoetic wrote:if you're aware of what can be your scumplay and what can't why can't you manipulate it? You posted unprompted, you had all the time you wanted to prepare that post.-
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207 isn't worth a response tbh, it's just more scumfuckery from pjmIn post 218, Transcend wrote:I want JR to respond to 201 and 207 before I go any further in this game-
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nothing to respond to there broskiIn post 222, Dunnstral wrote:
and 199 and 220In post 218, Transcend wrote:I want JR to respond to 201 and 207 before I go any further in this game
idc if you sr me, u wanna be trash tier that's ur problem-
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i don't think i need to do anything tbh, im not good at casing, what i am good at is reading alibae.In post 256, Impoetic wrote:
if you're certain alisae is mafia, you should be doing something to convince town. Why are you content with just saying that and not trying to get her lynched?In post 246, JaeReed wrote:
i've been waiting for a vc, i dont like yolo voting v muchIn post 200, Transcend wrote:VOTE: alisae
jaereed your scumread reacted really crappily to the pressure on him
come vote with me-
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they aren't, they're pure posturey bs nd tbh impo has already largely identified and highlighted that.In post 261, Transcend wrote:
i don't think it was scummy? his points were pretty sound there.In post 257, JaeReed wrote:
207 isn't worth a response tbh, it's just more scumfuckery from pjmIn post 218, Transcend wrote:I want JR to respond to 201 and 207 before I go any further in this game
nothing of the points he attempted to level at me are scum indicative, he's just trying to discredit my reads cuz they're right.-
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nah man i have the worst hangover complete with the shakesIn post 269, Transcend wrote:jaereed you aite?
your tone seems really negative this game when normally you're fairly chirpy
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i mean i always obvtown eventually as town so no, not my problem. it'll happen eventually.In post 270, Impoetic wrote:no it's not "x's problem" if you know someone's town and scumreading you part of the game is to convince them you're town, regardless of your alignment.
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^ this is an example of me interacting with someone i tr to get them to see i'm town ftr impoIn post 278, JaeReed wrote:
i mean i always obvtown eventually as town so no, not my problem. it'll happen eventually.In post 270, Impoetic wrote:no it's not "x's problem" if you know someone's town and scumreading you part of the game is to convince them you're town, regardless of your alignment.
but also you're assuming i tr him and he's still a hard null for me.-
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oh look i have forced 2 scum to vote me. cute.
pedit i did didn't i, sadly it doesn't even deserve a medal because i read him correctly every game-
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ftr pjm i don't care what you think of me even if you're town. i will be conftown the moment alisae flips maf because too many people in this game know that I never bus as scum. you'll have to nightkill me to get rid of me, and in doing so you'll be leaving transcend alive to powerlynch you.-
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ahahahahahaha +100In post 295, Impoetic wrote:jae "I'm hungover, now let's make sure everyone else has a headache too" reed
also i love how pjm and dunnstral are both pointing out my arrogance and cockiness which are not only fairly standard towntells but also towntells specific to me. dunn also should know that given the hydra double day game we played.-
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and i now scumread this
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pointing out the fakeness of their scumreads on me - so less about me being townread and more about how they should be reading it if they're town. to be fair this applies way more to dunnstral than to pjm in that case, and i'm wary of grouping those two as partners because of the parroting there, but at least 1 is very likely to be scum.In post 301, Juri wrote:
Why be this insistent about being townread if you're convinced it will happen anyway in the long run?In post 298, JaeReed wrote:
ahahahahahaha +100In post 295, Impoetic wrote:jae "I'm hungover, now let's make sure everyone else has a headache too" reed
also i love how pjm and dunnstral are both pointing out my arrogance and cockiness which are not only fairly standard towntells but also towntells specific to me. dunn also should know that given the hydra double day game we played.
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dunnstral is scum. that read is now just below my 100% confidence in alisae being scum.
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Trial of the Evoker you played with both of us as scum, did you seriously forget that game?
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not gut.In post 357, Dunnstral wrote:Don't get me wrong, I know the feeling of a strong gut read. But you came up with that read in the first few pages and now are tunneled into that (typical of you I imagine) which doesn't help if you're wrong which happens
impo is practically family to me, i can read her. i have hydra'd with her as scum, I know the difference between her pretending to be town and being town, and her reaction to pressure is the easiest way to read her. as scum she reacts really badly, as town she's just self conscious about how she comes across but still genuinely tries to sort people through their push on her, and usually ends up w/ nothing substantial as far as a solid read from it.
this is just impo town.-
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I expect to be townread when I'm town because I know my propensity for obvtowning, so I would consider it my god given right if you hard tr me. doesn't mean anything in regards to alignment tho for people to townread someone that is used to being townread. Both scum and town tr me generally so meh.In post 390, Trivium wrote:So the question I asked, which I'd like to actually ask everyone, will let me get to know how people feel about getting townread so I can better understand the game from the weird existensial viewpoint I have-
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you fake the waffle, but you don't do it in this particular manner. tonally when you're scum you come across as somewhat aggressive towards those who attack you and you're prone to omgus.In post 440, Impoetic wrote:
I thought I faked that as scum before.In post 429, JaeReed wrote:
not gut.In post 357, Dunnstral wrote:Don't get me wrong, I know the feeling of a strong gut read. But you came up with that read in the first few pages and now are tunneled into that (typical of you I imagine) which doesn't help if you're wrong which happens
impo is practically family to me, i can read her. i have hydra'd with her as scum, I know the difference between her pretending to be town and being town, and her reaction to pressure is the easiest way to read her. as scum she reacts really badly, as town she's just self conscious about how she comes across but still genuinely tries to sort people through their push on her, and usually ends up w/ nothing substantial as far as a solid read from it.
this is just impo town.-
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and I'll still read you correctly <3 because I pay far too much attention to your quirks.In post 446, Impoetic wrote:well I certainly will in the future, thanks jaereed-
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10In post 450, Transcend wrote:JR on a scale of 1-10 how much do you scumread Alisae?
I'm getting towny feels from him at the moment
Alisae also stopped pretending to try to gamesolve since I called him out. He's trying to minimize the damage.-
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hm..In post 509, Alisae wrote:In post 506, projectmatt wrote:
Also seriously what the fuck is this? Are you under the impression I've been camping my vote behind your or something?In post 492, Alisae wrote: matt, in all seriousness I'm done with this buddying shit and this "Let's proxy our vote behind Alisae" shit got old really quickly.
Later.In post 254, Alisae wrote:So this isn't a joke.
goooooooooooooooooooooooooot it.
VOTE: JaeReed
This is scum boyz. He really isn't interested in hunting me he's just ignoring me alltogether.
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hahahaahahhaahhahaahahahahaIn post 257, JaeReed wrote:
207 isn't worth a response tbh, it's just more scumfuckery from pjmIn post 218, Transcend wrote:I want JR to respond to 201 and 207 before I go any further in this game
vote: jaereed
And thenAfter this:
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I had a Sr on his predec but yes I have a harder time reading ali when he replaces in because his tempo is off and doesn't match either his town or scum play. I did use my meta tell on you that game then let you weasel out of it tho. And I was planning to reevaluate in lylo but lickety was just determined to throw so meh.In post 543, gerryoat wrote:If you're town. Last time you were sure Alisae was scum, he was town and I was maf.
Additional point I hadn't seen him as mafia at that point either.-
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Not like how you were when we hydra'd babe. Your scum omgus has a bad tone.In post 561, Impoetic wrote:
I actually kind of dislike this.In post 504, Juri wrote:I actually kind of like this. I think that shooting for me (as an actual wagon canditate rather than as pressure) is not a very opportunistic thing to do. Seems driven by genuine thoughts about me, however tentative they might be.
Also jae I'm prone to omgus as town????? I'm pretty sure I've been prone to omgus this game. I omgused transcend, I still have doubts about dunnstral. I remember thinking I omgus a lot in the past too. How is that an explanation?
I feel stupid for barking down this alley if you're town but there's a lot that sticks out to me and I will be pretty demoralized if I let you buddy meall fucking gameand you flip scum
It's fine for you to be paranoid. I won't flip scum though, so you don't need to worry about that <3-
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I will answer this once my question is answered by alisae. It makes the difference between whether Ali is confscum or I need to sort him through further engagement. It was the question about whether his sr on pjm for shadowing him with his vote was a real sr.In post 589, Impoetic wrote:
(what question did you ask and why is it all-important)In post 585, JaeReed wrote:Depends. Can you get alisae to respond to that question I asked?-
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Lol.
Alisae if you're town I really need you to answer me. Were you genuine on the scumread of pjm for shadowing your votes?
Darklyn is still obvtown.
Impo's vote wasn't omgus, she spent ages trying to sort dunnstral. He's attempting a simultaneous discredit on us.-
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Can you not be dramariffic? I don't like to engage with hard scumreads of the calibre that I had on you. I really need an answer to that question or I can't assess whether I was wrong on my read or not.
If you're town your emotions are going to cause one of us to have to be lynched today if you keep this up.-
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Except I'm not so....In post 679, Alisae wrote:
You're scum so.......In post 677, JaeReed wrote:If you're town your emotions are going to cause one of us to have to be lynched today if you keep this up.
pedit ew nancy is scum. In no universe ever is nancy able to read what I've done here and read it as me being scum, let alone this being an SvS.-
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No. This is not you reading anything. This is not you reading motivations of EITHER of us.In post 686, nancy wrote:
It's super let-off-the-hook-y imo. Like I realize you've said that Aslan is confscum if they answer a question wrongly but this whole thing is so mysterious that you can probably just say "ok you answered correctly" and ta-da Aslan is Town now. I also know that Aslan is the type to put both his partners in a scumpool and bus them both from the start of the game.In post 681, JaeReed wrote:
Except I'm not so....In post 679, Alisae wrote:
You're scum so.......In post 677, JaeReed wrote:If you're town your emotions are going to cause one of us to have to be lynched today if you keep this up.
pedit ew nancy is scum. In no universe ever is nancy able to read what I've done here and read it as me being scum, let alone this being an SvS.-
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Either read my posts then understand I should be fucking conftown to you and back off this bullshit, or have fun eating rope.-
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@Alisae I really need you to answer that question, please. I know you're upset at me if you're town but really please just give me the benefit of the doubt here and answer on that. Depending on the answer I may need a complete reread and I'll explain everything you want to know when I do so.-
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Just please answer that one question? I don't care if you still scumread me it's just the one question that I do actually need answered to know if I need to re-evaluate the whole game.-
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And as scum you would be refusing to answer so as not to incriminate yourself further, rather than being upset.In post 693, Alisae wrote:Hell, the fact you think I wouldn't be upset if I was scum is concerning as well.-
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Fine. I'm sorry if I upset you, that was never my intention, I don't deliberately try to do that and as town I know I can end up being an ass with my scumhunting. I'm sorry.
Now I can out my thoughts.
Genuine paranoia.
As scum I can't see you following matt's voting patterns that closely to pick up on that, which even I thought was just you bullshitting when you wrote about it until that post I quoted when I unvoted.
There IS the caveat that it could be you paying more attention to a scum buddy's voting habits and trying to distance because you thought you were going down, but that was a really nuanced read from you and was proof of you analyzing the game at a higher level than I had been seeing. Too nuanced for me to think it was a distancing tactic.-
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Spoiler:
I felt like these were fake scumhunting, they lack your usual pep and seem too focused on asking a lot of questions andlookinglike you're scumhunting rather than actually feeling genuine to me. I didn't like your reaction here:
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As due to my track record of correctly reading you I feel like you should have actually omgus'ed me rather than tried to brush it off and ignore me. Especially considering you know when I fake a read it's generally a lot more casual than that, and that I only do it as a reaction test in the very short term to confirm feelings I have about a slot more than anything. Which still implies feeling as though you're scum. It's very much trying to play the LAMIST card, by pretending as though you can't possibly fathom me scumreading you, and the fact that you went after a bunch of other people instead of me, the person who you should go after as town because I can read you with scary accuracy, came across as an admission of guilt.-
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This was especially bad given all that, because you hadn't tried to engage me at all beyond pretending you're so town that my scumread has to be a joke.In post 254, Alisae wrote:So this isn't a joke.
goooooooooooooooooooooooooot it.
VOTE: JaeReed
This is scum boyz. He really isn't interested in hunting me he's just ignoring me alltogether.-
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And I'm tilting back into thinking I should just tunnel tf out of Alisae by running through this lol.-
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In post 325, Alisae wrote:Oh yeah notice how Jae hasn't voted me yet?
It's because he knows I'll flip town and he doesn't want to be on the wagon when it flips
I'd already explained this one about 80ish posts earlierIn post 246, JaeReed wrote:
i've been waiting for a vc, i dont like yolo voting v muchIn post 200, Transcend wrote:VOTE: alisae
jaereed your scumread reacted really crappily to the pressure on him
come vote with me-
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No I don't fake scumreads. It's a shit thing to do as town because it makes it harder to ever gain credibility and be believed in your reads.In post 705, Alisae wrote:Jae I thought you were like "Guys I can soulread this slot, sheep me"
>Sheeps arrive
>"Hahaha I was just joking I was trying to see who would follow me on that.
Mostly because you didn't vote me and your post of "I'm waiting for a VC" I thought sorta confirmed this feeling.
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I don't do that when we hadn't even had a vc once. You could have had votes on you from RVS or something which would result in a hammer.-
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Yeah this is bullshit and semantics.In post 712, nancy wrote:If he's not scum why didn't he say "Your scumreads are bad"??!!?!?
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It was like six pages in, early game vote hopping happens a lot, and I quite frankly am too lazy to do the mod's job when I'm a player. That answers both of your points btw. A hammer on p6 is awful. I like my D1s to be a decent length.In post 718, Alisae wrote:
A. There's a thing called COUNTING!In post 713, JaeReed wrote:I don't do that when we hadn't even had a vc once. You could have had votes on you from RVS or something which would result in a hammer.
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In post 719, nancy wrote:
Why thoIn post 715, JaeReed wrote:
Yeah this is bullshit and semantics.In post 712, nancy wrote:If he's not scum why didn't he say "Your scumreads are bad"??!!?!?
No it's not, and if you honestly believe that you need to go to mastina and ask for a lesson.In post 720, nancy wrote:This whole game is based on semantics lol
This game is based on identifying the manipulators, and identifying when people aren't being manipulated.
You're not going to find that by going "he worded this differently to how I would" because that's not even factoring in his own mindset and how he approaches problems.-
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It's ok I can read Impoetic and that's all that matters.In post 723, nancy wrote:Jae is scumreading me proving that they can't read their own gf lol
Admittedly I am putting 0 effort into this game-
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Since around melbmeet, yeah.In post 725, Alisae wrote:
Wait. This is offical?In post 723, nancy wrote:Jae is scumreading me proving that they can't read their own gf lol
I feel left out.
VOTE: dunnstral
let's just lynch this.
he has played with me so many times and he's acting as though this is our first game together. it's disingenuous to the max.-
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Dunnstral has played with me in 2 blitz games (one we were both town, one he was scum I was town), Ari's donner party mafia (I was vig, he was town, and I tunneled him all D1 then shot his scumread who was the sk), Questionable Content mafia (he quickly realized I was town really early on after having an issue with me having early reads), Trial of the Evoker (we were scum together and I was in a hydra with Impoetic. Dunn counterclaimed a watcher that watched him make the kill and got that person lynched; i have a really hard time believing he can forget that kind of play), and Typhon (dunn was cult leader and realized I was town there too, and recognized Impoetic as obvtown there and culted her for it)
Like, Dunn pretending he doesn't know how I play is god awful.-
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