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[Elena Fisher]

A free Grey vote? Count me in

VOTE: Grey

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: Magna
I agree wagons are fun let's start one shall we?

[Elena Fisher]

I agree wagons are fun let's start one shall we?

If you loved wagons so much why didn’t you make a vote to start one originally?

Because it's a free Grey vote

[Elena Fisher]

I can't be the only one confused on this interaction between barley and sheep right?

[Elena Fisher]

Let me see if I get this right.

grey 21 is a reach.

magna 23 is poor reasoning. why is it invalid to be wary of a wagon on x player when x player tends to react poorly to wagons as town? and to 31, where does matt imply that any reaction to a key wagon from key will be nai?

tf seems like tf.

elena 17 feels off. points to magna for pointing that out.

matt 27 feels townish.

tf 37

key 38

VOTE: key

At this post you did not scumread key? What was the vote for then.

more words doesn't mean more coherent

i don't really understand key's 38 but i don't get good vibes from it either way. either it's antagonistic or it's self-conscious

The tone here feels like

UNVOTE:

no issue with key.

i said it was either antagonistic or self-conscious. one or the other. i don't personally like the antagonism but i don't think it's scummy.

sheep - on hold until magna responds to 43

a 180 flip from here I feel like you were taking me one way then zapped me another talk me through it

[Elena Fisher]

What was the point of the vote part though It's slightly hard to swallow that you're saying you didn't sr key at that point and the vote was there just as a vote.

[Elena Fisher]

Ah okay understood. How do you feel about Magna?

[Elena Fisher]

L-2

Hang on you just come in to say "L-2" and choose to make no comment what so ever on what's going on or even place a vote?
Yeah I don't like this

[Elena Fisher]

He has 2 comments on his iso perfect chance to make a comment on anything that's happened in the game. Nope L-2

So Boom where's your head at?

[Elena Fisher]

First of all this wagon got a lot more srs and I got what I wanted so.
UNVOTE:

What’s his Town motivation to try to pre-emptively derail a possible RVS wagon

I can't believe I have to actually answer this.

Rvs wagons are good to gather us info. If you rvs wagon a player who flails as either alignment, how will that gain us info? It doesn't.

RVS wagon somebody who isn't a weak player

and see how they respond.

He self hammered as town tracker for god sake.

I'd say your reaction to getting votes has actually told us more. 1. You ended up voting me for something that's not scummy or even AI. 2. You just admitted (by way of not scum reading matt anymore) that your push on him wasn't actually genuine.

So you really look like caught scum at this point.

At the bolded wouldn't you rather do the opposite this doesn't make sense to me if you wagon a strong player per say they would know how to react to wagons like this as scum because they're a strong player so wagoning them wouldn't really do much I don't see your point here. I forgot who asked but my read on Magna is nulltown I've seen some points I disagree with (The Matt post wasn't that awful) but I also agree with a few aswell (Twoface's thoughts seem a bit jambled) I don't think he's as scummy as people are making him out to be

[Elena Fisher]

I'd also love if we got more posts from blank slots before even thinking on a hammer but that's a given.

[Elena Fisher]

I'd also love if we got more posts from blank slots before even thinking on a hammer but that's a given.

Since your vote isn't at work, you should sheep me onto Gin. Either we'll get posts out of him, or we'll put him in lulz hammer range and Boon will do that, so it's a pretty awesome plan.

Or...we can let him catch on his own without rushing him how about that.

At the bolded wouldn't you rather do the opposite this doesn't make sense to me if you wagon a strong player per say they would know how to react to wagons like this as scum because they're a strong player so wagoning them wouldn't really do much I don't see your point here. I forgot who asked but my read on Magna is nulltown I've seen some points I disagree with (The Matt post wasn't that awful) but I also agree with a few aswell (Twoface's thoughts seem a bit jambled) I don't think he's as scummy as people are making him out to be

No actually. A weak player is going to react bad and you won't learn anything. If a bad player reacts bad what do
You learn? I learn nothing. I can't even know if a single scum was on the wagon cause all town mislynches are a thing. Especially on bad players.

Strong players aren't perfect. They are prone to mistakes.

What makes a player "bad" to you? Do we have any bad players in this game can you name them? I feel if you wagon a weak/bad player you would get a more genuine reaction from them yes you can wagon a better player for reaction but the success rate seems lower to me. Was you poking at magna at the start of the game for reaction or did you mean that.

@Magna

I did answer it's in the 2nd part of my last post, You must've missed it

[Elena Fisher]

Key what do you think of the main Magna/Twoface going on right now you've posted a little but haven't given your thoughts on it.

[Elena Fisher]

Magna/Lycra are possible team. Don't like elena's unvote either.

How do you reach these conclusions

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: Matt

[Elena Fisher]

You know why I'm voting you correct?

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: Matt

Matt is town. Move back to magna or move elsewhere

I have reason to vote Matt and I was never on Magna in the first place it was a RVS vote.

[Elena Fisher]

TF I feel like you tr Matt just because he's' agreeing/taking your side to be frank.

[Elena Fisher]

I'm waiting on something. I suggest you just hush on this topic for now

[Elena Fisher]

No, I'm not going to let you play mind games with a town read. Answer my questions

Can't do that right now. Why I'm not voting boom/barley I'll happily wagon boom but for now I have more important things to do can you stop trying to poke at my plans?

[Elena Fisher]

Do you normally defend your townreads like a mamabear? I don't think you should be bothered/worried about this

[Elena Fisher]

I keep having to retype things I say so I can stay as vague as possible here lord stop it.

[Elena Fisher]

adorable
Pedit: Alright that's fine as long as I get the result needed

[Elena Fisher]

Your scumread at first didn't make sense but at least with this you have something to credit

[Elena Fisher]

I haven't really taken a stance Matt

[Elena Fisher]

I think both are tunneling each other to hell and need to take a step back away from each other I think anyone who hammers Magna atm is a scumclaim more people need to talk the fact this Magna wagon is going unopposed with barely any count wagons suggest Magna is town Twoface I am sorting that's why my vote isn't on either of them. I think scum is kicking it back and relaxing while TF and Magna go at it if I had a gun to my head

[Elena Fisher]

I don't really tr Magna based on what he's done but others have done to him. TF had geniune posts and then stuff that's just...bad is it tunneling town or bad scum? I think it'll be easier to tell if he interactions with other people then Magna

[Elena Fisher]

Now you're just sweet talking me I think this is scum but we can act like it's just a "opinion"
VOTE: Boon

[Elena Fisher]

My vote on Matt was never because I had a sr on him quite the opposite he made a very towny post not the words itself but it was very clear he was trying to understand a clear thought process and didn't jump right to conclusions he's trying to figure stuff out the vote was placed for reactions on why I would vote Matt Twoface's reaction was badish

[Elena Fisher]

No but I'm buddying you

[Elena Fisher]

Oh I'm gonna have fun with you

[Elena Fisher]

My vote on Matt was never because I had a sr on him quite the opposite

If you're town please quit mafia forever.

I have a sudden urge to sheep Elena.

Stop you're gonna make me blush

[Elena Fisher]

Holy shit it's like a bomb blew up and he started posting

[Elena Fisher]

As I said I never had a sr on Matt in the first place Boon and clearly the magna vs Twoface thing isn't "silly" it's srs Magna's been at L-1 need more input there

[Elena Fisher]

Now vote your scum buddy, Grey.

K

VOTE: Boonskiiiiiiies

[Elena Fisher]

You say I'm scum for voting a townread? That's really bad logic. I want to see Boon's case on me though.

[Elena Fisher]

I'm not upset I'm curious if I was upset I'd be screaming swearing and ateing x) What am I sheeping I don't think I've sheeped anything. If you're talking about the vote on you I wanted you voted long ago.
Pedit: I guess I scum claimed then oh boy.

[Elena Fisher]

Are you saying you're fake posting now or your fake posting is good? Also cute claim

[Elena Fisher]

Still not sold

K. You act like I give a fuck. What the fuck do you want me to fucking say?

Yeah this is scum you clearly give a fuck by the amount you're posting and this "rage"

[Elena Fisher]

You don't give a fuck and yet you've posted 50 posts in 1 hour....

[Elena Fisher]

Oh were playing soft the pr game?
Okay guys I'm not a vt *wink wink*

[Elena Fisher]

and I thought Grey in the last game we played was a handful

[Elena Fisher]

and I thought Grey in the last game we played was a handful

Don't I keep things interesting, though?

Sure...

[Elena Fisher]

I'll get to this tomorrow

[Elena Fisher]

Okay let's talk about this case on me shall we? Also anyone who votes me because of said case please say what you like about it just "I like this case" Doesn't really do much and makes the topic run dry.
Post 59: I said I was confused and I was. Barley's mindset changed like the flip of a switch in the matter of moments as you can see in post 64 so I was quite boggled
Can you please show me how my post was used to creature conflict what has any of my posts done to creature conflict that's the part that confuses me. Yes you are bringing up meta from someone who is not me I'm not Foxbird what does Foxbird have anything to do with me or my comments I understand what Foxbird did but how does that relate to me
My post on Boon? Yes 100% a shade post we had a wagon on someone and Boon makes 0 comment just comes in to say "L-2" that doesn't sit right with me he hasn't made any comment on it what so ever it reads to me "scum sitting back waiting for the wagon to happen" I shade my scumreads and I will keep doing it. You bring up meta on games that I was never in so I don't really see the example you're trying to put just because some players play like A doesn't mean it will happen for player B that type of thinking will get you no where Boon CLEARLY was reading the game he said L-2 right after sheeps vote on Magna so he had to have been reading the game what makes you think otherwise. I didn't need to really justify the vote at all but people were talking on why I was voting Magna so I made it clelar I never did in the first place plus I got the wagon on him I wanted so no more need for my vote to be placed on him. And last but not least are you trying to say it's scummy for someone to make a statement along the lines someone else did? First of all I had no idea you even made that post

[Elena Fisher]

Sorry for my absense, but I've been rather busy....

Lycan makes a pretty compelling argument for scumElena, and I've had reservations about that slot for a while now.

VOTE: Elena Fisher

I would like to see where this goes.

What did you like?

[Elena Fisher]

Yeah, that post doesn't help. Elena's scum. Scum know why they are doing things still.

This makes no sense.

[Elena Fisher]

Yeah, that post doesn't help. Elena's scum. Scum know why they are doing things still.

This makes no sense.

So what it means is that scum does things that they want to make seem town.

That's common sense and can be said about any post in this game....ANY post

[Elena Fisher]

The point is your poot is moot and useless

[Elena Fisher]

shhhhh

[Elena Fisher]

@MOD V/LA until the 17th I'm having major problems at home here so sorry

[Elena Fisher]

Snow storm passed I'll be reading today

[Elena Fisher]

I had a giant draft ready and it's gone...I'm finishing this tomorrow expect a wall from myself

[Elena Fisher]

I've played with scum Magna caught scum Magna this is not it and the fact scum is so blatantly hiding behind the twoface/Magna fight is clear I have to say the person who is doing this the most is mono as already stated he's basically fueling the flame he also sr's my 2nd top sr Boon and it looks like classic scum distancing you put scum in your sr's have a few interactions with them but never ever vote them I'd put money on Boon/momo/???

VOTE: momo

[Elena Fisher]

It's why people who played with me often learn to just deal with me Day 3 and on because you need more info BECAUSE IM THE FUCKING EASIEST SEEMING MISLYNCH EVER. I'm loud, abrasive, and have boon logic. Of course fucking scum is gonna push me.

I mean, look at our posts. It's obvious I don't town read him. I don't see him as a bad player. I get his perspective against me as scum. Easy seeming mislynch that he can get away with without harming his cred.

I'm much harder to lynch than I seem. Scum keep me around because I seem mislynchable, then I slip away and nail the scum. I've replaced into games and called out entire scum teams before.

Ah don't you love contradiction Boon doesn't believe shit he's saying and just saying whatever he can

[Elena Fisher]

Okay let's talk about this case on me shall we? Also anyone who votes me because of said case please say what you like about it just "I like this case" Doesn't really do much and makes the topic run dry.
Post 59: I said I was confused and I was. Barley's mindset changed like the flip of a switch in the matter of moments as you can see in post 64 so I was quite boggled

Do you have any strong reads on the people on your wagon?

Can you please show me how my post was used to creature conflict what has any of my posts done to creature conflict that's the part that confuses me. Yes you are bringing up meta from someone who is not me I'm not Foxbird what does Foxbird have anything to do with me or my comments I understand what Foxbird did but how does that relate to me

I'm not meta-ing anyone. I've done the

exact same thing

as scum. I so much as said in the mafia PT for Darkest Dungeon that if you want a mislynch that day, make a pointed post to encourage conflict between Varsoon/Frozen Angel/Keyser Soze/and our lovely mod Human Sequencer.

Spoiler: Darkest Dungeon scumpost

When reading the game I was wondering why people involved in the Wraith wagon legitimately didn't care that the claimed intent (joke) and conclusion (scum) could have matched opposed to "action must be scummy therefore scum". HS was a component of the wagon (p88-101), and made that shitpost about crusader claims (86). They pretty much announced they wanted crusader to claim in their first post (63). I don't really know how I care about the curio flipflop (167)-there's no good scum motive here because both scenarios I can think of look like shit. Eventually the wagon got stale around the time HS claimed to kill the wagon, then they attracted a portion of the Wraith wagon. The problem with this is that the Wraith wagon was

actually a fine place to be

if you gave a damn.

Right now I'm most interested in AA.

Really dislike the handling of the Wraith wagon-AA goes back and forth with Varsoon over half a dozen posts about whether it's okay to wagon and the resolution of the curio, then when Varsoon makes a tongue-in-cheek response that they find it "curious" they're even there (155) AA affirms their actions but relents (156). I can't actually justify 156 as an attempt to further the wagon by resolving the curio and I don't see why the "pressure" had to stop to talk about the resolution during all these posts (133-156) either. If you want a reaction, you go for broke. If you want to further your wagon and don't care about the curio (133) why not tell Varsoon that you'll resolve the curio matter to resolve the reaction problem? Instead, AA comes into the exchange with Varsoon, gains a problem they don't want, and exits with what they started, while making no effort to push forward. Both problems had a solution. Get Varsoon on board with Wraith and see how far he wants to go with the curio at the same time.

When AA accepts Wraith may have been joking (219) it's worth noting that Aragorn seems to have tagged out Arwen at this stage. For some reason I really hated the "you talk to Arwen directly something something cry to HS" bit. It felt like a set up to switch gears for someone on page four (221). Aragorn hints they want to loosen the grip on Wraith, and after Wraith quotes a bunch of jokes to Arwen Aragorn thinks they're frustrated town (229), shades HS but has their vote on Wraith in this same post. Aragorn seems to consider town!Wraith at 250. The earlier trend continues with Vifam (256), but then votes HS in 277. Nothing seems to happen wrt to HS or why HS' read suddenly became important from Aragorn's last post (263) to his post 277 with the exception of Arwen making themselves known in post 270.

I really hate how AA has attached themselves to the HS wagon. It seems like it was premeditated (219+221) but wasn't until Arwen appeared that the green light was actually given. 232 was an incredible use of rhetoric to revise Arwen vs. Varsoon into Varsoon "helping" Arwen when it was really just Varsoon's obsession with the curio jamming Arwen's programming and stopping her from doing anything worthwhile related to Wraith. Seemingly nothing was said in the hydra PT harboring suspicion of this (247). If the hydra didn't care enough to note Varsoon over it, then why was the Wraith vote important at all? If their vote was better placed (which it was established after 250,256) it shouldn't have taken so long to change.

I have a few other associative reads that I don't feel like sharing. This vote is good. VOTE: AA

It

worked

and caused Varsoon to go bananas on Arwen and Aragorn (FA/Keyser Soze) in a TvT while both had varying levels of a townread on me as a result.

It's a hard tell-something I've caught scum by page 2 with. It's hard for townies to justify that sort of behavior, unless of course they're inserting themselves into the conflict. Then they may have a leg to stand on.

My post on Boon? Yes 100% a shade post we had a wagon on someone and Boon makes 0 comment just comes in to say "L-2" that doesn't sit right with me he hasn't made any comment on it what so ever it reads to me "scum sitting back waiting for the wagon to happen" I shade my scumreads and I will keep doing it. You bring up meta on games that I was never in so I don't really see the example you're trying to put just because some players play like A doesn't mean it will happen for player B that type of thinking will get you no where Boon CLEARLY was reading the game he said L-2 right after sheeps vote on Magna so he had to have been reading the game what makes you think otherwise.

Admittedly I'm not interested in a single post of shade but more interested in trends. We had differing responses to a post and that's strange.

I didn't need to really justify the vote at all but people were talking on why I was voting Magna so I made it clelar I never did in the first place plus I got the wagon on him I wanted so no more need for my vote to be placed on him. And last but not least are you trying to say it's scummy for someone to make a statement along the lines someone else did? First of all I had no idea you even made that post

It felt prompted by my post asking you for your read. A more expected response is to go on someone better. Sure, you may not have read my other post, but was that 'someone better' really someone that hadn't posted? Do you think that unvote stood well on its own?

i don't think I can answer this given the way the games progressed and this is out of date if you wanna build another case or ask me new questions by all means that'll prob be better way of solving me

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: momo

Hiya frenemy.

Edit.

Hi Grey who do you sr I can not get a read on you this game mostly cause your play is very....volatile

[Elena Fisher]

Okay easier question
Do you have any solid reads that would be hard to sway.

[Elena Fisher]

Maybe take a break come back and do a little bit of a re read and come back with some more solid info? Because that's a bit hard to work with

I hope all is well though.

[Elena Fisher]

It felt prompted by my post asking you for your read. A more expected response is to go on someone better. Sure, you may not have read my other post, but was that 'someone better' really someone that hadn't posted? Do you think that unvote stood well on its own?

i don't think I can answer this given the way the games progressed and this is out of date if you wanna build another case or ask me new questions by all means that'll prob be better way of solving me

i feel like you were trying to start shit in those posts and gave up your scumread on matt too easily. i'm going to be lazy because i have one minute to make this post and copypaste this

As I've already said about Elena, I town read her - not strongly but I do. I think her posts have been fine, I don't think she has egged on anything, and I think she has been reasonably insightful especially in consideration of the average in this game.
Does that answer your question?

how do you feel about post 59 post 64 post 116 post 219 post 225 231

(matt) post 246 post 247

(elena)

post 255

these are the posts of yours that i hate[/quote]
I never had a sr on Matt I wanted to see who would jump on matt because he made a really towny post Twoface did I got what I needed I wasn't going to out my plan to him otherwise it'd be ruined I think the only post that I was trying "start something" was the boon post because I found him super scummy with the way he was acting. Why does posting that I'm confused on how something just went down read as "starting something" to you?

[Elena Fisher]

No wonder Twoface tried to man handle me when I placed a vote on Matt this makes sense now

[Elena Fisher]

No wonder Twoface tried to man handle me when I placed a vote on Matt this makes sense now

No, it really doesn't make sense because that's just bad play but it is at least able to be parsed through that lens.

How does it not make sense? I'm pretty sure it makes perfect sense it's bad but it makes sense

[Elena Fisher]

Just take a break away from the game :/

[Elena Fisher]

This game suddenly got super active and it's not toxic for once perfect! I'll read all this in a bit

[Elena Fisher]

Is Elena not new? I've never encountered them bofore!

No, and she's not a fucking idiot either (don't tell her I that, though)

Boon pushing her is rather hypocritical considering his own play.

Dawww <3

Guys Grey is town, just stop. I will not vote Grey.

If you idiots do lynch him and he flips town(because he will) we lynch sheep the next day because that is what grey would want from us.

This was a bit of an overreaction to 2 votes on Grey it was clear he was no where near getting lynched

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Also, bad pushes are my MO as town. Scum hate me for it because they feel they get caught out for crap not true reasons. I have scum on me.

Say's the one that says "I'm easy to ML" at L-2 and when no wagon is on him he says "I'm hard to ML"

i'm more interested in hammering magna than voting grey rn

lynch me over MoI. Gives me an out. I forgot that TwoFace wasn't the reason I hated this game.

what's your read on magna?

MoI is going to flip town. I've been defending that since before 2F raged out.

You mean the guy who tried to stop your lynch? Cute

VOTE: Boon L-1

[Elena Fisher]

We are not ending the day until two face can be replaced. Any hammer is a scum claim

disagree

[Elena Fisher]

Two face slot is important yes I agree but I don't see the dif of the slot reading at night or today unless they have a mega tr on boon

[Elena Fisher]

Didn't think of the day chat thing. Fair enough

[Elena Fisher]

I don't think that's a scmmy move just a ballsy one

[Elena Fisher]

Scum claiming masons can be dealt with.

The way 2f claimed means scum are forced to shoot into it, so

Can you dumb this down for me when I read this it feels like 2 dif statements like the first one is talking about the masons being town and one being scum was that the goal or?

[Elena Fisher]

Yes I know that but the way-Nevermind.

[Elena Fisher]

Still don't see it

[Elena Fisher]

I think Aristo is saying we should lynch ThinkBig.

Absolutely!
VOTE: Thinkbig

Voted am ason fucking obv scum
VOTE: Aristo

He fell for it Grey teehee

[Elena Fisher]

Still don't see it

You asked for this!

Can they be scum?

provided they are Town-aligned

Sorry!

This is amazing

[Elena Fisher]

He fell for it Grey teehee

Gotta be real for a sec... Idk what to do with this.

You're supposed to be tying me down and giving me thirty lashes.

You know I like it rough.

Gotta build up the false sense of security first.

One time I played a bastard game where I was a mason turns out my partner was a scum mason of the other team and we basically had the same idea of buddying and townreading each other it was such a laugh
Pedit: yup
UNVOTE:

VOTE: Boon

[Elena Fisher]

Who would you rather lynch? I feel like the only other person I feel good on is momo

[Elena Fisher]

During the whole 2F vs Magna war I felt like momo was just fueling the flames and wasn't really doing himself just trying to hide behind the chaos

[Elena Fisher]

@Magna Are you asking me why I'm not voting momo when my other sr was at L-1? -_-

Also I haven't thought Lycan was the townist of players but this screams counter wagon to scum boon

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: Boon
We were on Scum in the first place and the lycan counter wagon took off

[Elena Fisher]

Another counter wagon to scum Boon? I am in shock right now.

[Elena Fisher]

Another counter wagon to scum Boon? I am in shock right now.

Why is Boon scum?

Please read my iso and you'll see if it's unclear still ask again.

[Elena Fisher]

Please read my iso and you'll see if it's unclear still ask again.

Should not be that hard to resummarize if you had anything worth Titus considering Elena ...

You're right it's not hard but I had a hard day at work and I'm tired and lazy.

[Elena Fisher]

Boon and momo still my top sr's

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: momo

[Elena Fisher]

Get to this tomorrow but for Magna I have said many reasons why I think Boon is scum I will make ANOTHER bulletproof thing tomorrow but if you want to know my iso is just a click away

[Elena Fisher]

Boon's early game he came in when Magna was at L-2 and made the simple statement "L-2," Did not make any comment other then that it makes me think Boon was fine just lurking around to let Magna get lynched. He was very clearly lurking even when he says he didn't read because Magna was voted 2 posts before Boon said "L-2" so he was reading and lied along with making up a fake claim.

Boon has made contradictory statements all over the place normally this isn't an issue town make contradictory statements all the time Boons however do not make any sense and are used only at certain standpoints in the game
"I'm an easy ML"-He said while at L-2 or 1 (I'm pretty sure)
"I'm not an easy ml given my play" He says when he was one or no votes on him

Boon was the scum counter wagon to Fire right when it started getting votes again Fire's wagon zoomed off when he wasn't really that big a lynch target yes the mason most likely had influence on the lynch but it felt really easy.

[Elena Fisher]

Those are the 3 main points I have on Boon scum I would much rather lynch it over Momo yes I do think they're partners but I'm much more confident in a Boon flip.
Grey how are you doing on those reads of yours you must have something now given 67 pages in.
ZZZX How do you feel about my case on Boon and what were the main reasons you had to tr him (this can go for anyone town reading boon)

[Elena Fisher]

Grey how are you doing on those reads of yours you must have something now given 67 pages in.

Not really.

I'm just functioning as a mason supporter. Wherever they vote, I will vote. Except me, of course.

Why do you assume that I'd have reads when I crow about my apathy every other post?

Because we have 67 pages... Not caring for the game shouldn't impact your ability to read.

[Elena Fisher]

I can admit when I'm wrong (sadly) but you haven't given any reason on why I'm wrong all it is are excuses.

[Elena Fisher]

I sr momo AND you.
What key facts am I missing?

and you can't think I'm partners with momo either like you just can't.
See where this is going?

[Elena Fisher]

I can admit when I'm wrong (sadly) but you haven't given any reason on why I'm wrong all it is are excuses.

except the sides of everything you left off, like the "counter wagon", which in fact is PROVEN that it is not. You can go read who started both wagons, and it was TB and Grey. BOTH.

It is a counter wagon though.

[Elena Fisher]

I'll keep my vote on momo but wagon you any chance I get but you can keep hedging

[Elena Fisher]

You made 5 posts and lurked and right when you get any pressure on you you made 28 posts in an HOUR

[Elena Fisher]

Not making sense isn't an issue I've played with people who don't make since it's the fact you contract yourself and play in the moment you say what's good one moment but wouldn't be another time it's classic scum trying to get a head nod from town not trying to cause waves the only thing you're missing is trying to hide but given your playstyle I doubt you could do that.

[Elena Fisher]

Nothing much to add

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: Boon
Given momo flip I'm going to re read some things but what Boon said is false I haven't been on a wagon with anyone I sr beisdes a light one on Boon himself where Boon has contracted himself and said statements that are outright false I don't like Key/Sheeps weird votes on me that seem to be out of no where I'd say a scum is most likely in there but I'll give a full reads list when I'm done.

[Elena Fisher]

Votecount 1.9

Boonskiies

: -Grey-, ThinkBig, Lycanfire

Elena Fisher

:

Keyenpeydee

:

BlueBloodedToffee

:

momo

: MagnaofIllusion, Elena Fisher, Cooperative Sheep

-Grey-

: Keyenpeydee, Boonskiies

Aristophanes

:

MagnaofIllusion

: BlueBloodedToffee, momo, TwoFace

ThinkBig

:

Lycanfire

:

Cooperative Sheep

:

ZZZX

:

TwoFace

:

Not Voting

: BlueBloodedToffee, Aristophanes, ZZZX

No Lynch

:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Mod notes

:
Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-25 00:00:00)
BlueBloodedToffee and TwoFace are being replaced.

Votecount 1.10

Boonskiies

: Lycanfire, Cooperative Sheep, momo, Elena Fisher,

Elena Fisher

:

Keyenpeydee

:

BlueBloodedToffee

:

momo

: ZZZX, Aristophanes,

-Grey-

:

Aristophanes

:

MagnaofIllusion

: BlueBloodedToffee, TwoFace

ThinkBig

:

Lycanfire

: Boonskiies, ThinkBig, -Grey-, Keyenpeydee, MagnaofIllusion,

Cooperative Sheep

:

ZZZX

:

TwoFace

:

Not Voting

: BlueBloodedToffee,

No Lynch

:

Boonskiies and Lycanfire are the leading wagons at 4 votes (L-3).
Reminding ZZZX that I don't count bolded votes.
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Mod notes

:
Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-25 00:00:00)
Still searching for replacements for BBT and 2F. If you know anybody, you know what to do.

These are most likely the 2 most telling vote counts in the game I'll say more when I get back.

[Elena Fisher]

@MOD Neeb to sub out due to girl reasons

[Elena Fisher]

game* dam phone typing

[Elena Fisher]

Great job scumteam I'm proud of you sorry for jumping ship last moment I found out someone's role by mistake and thought it be best I subbed out you both did amazing

[Elena Fisher]

chloe/elena is the best ship, along with drake/sully

jks the best ship is the shipyard level in uncharted 3

jks the whole series is trash

t. man who hasn't played uc4

UC4 is great and the fact you haven't played it is saddening