MOD – I’ll be V/LA from 1:00pm EDT today until Monday morning for my usual weekend V/LA.
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Anyone who reads this and doesn’t come away saying “Scum” …In post 1038, momo wrote:Wait we are lynching me. Come on.... I am not exactly the towniest of the bunch but there are still people in this game way scummier than me.And if you really are too blind to see that, lynch a lurker's slot, at least you will take out someone not contributing to town.But I have been playing my best, not made any major scum slips that have no excuse behind thm (MOI and Sheep.)
So stop,
The bolded is basically saying “Well if you don’t see I’m not scum go lynch a lurker who isn’t helping” when in the same breath he’s saying “MoI and Sheep are scum”. Town doesn’t say “Oh, lynch random lurkers instead of me” when they have two actual scum candidates they supposedly are pushing. Scum who know that Sheep and I are Town however …
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I wish I could. But no that is exactly why I stopped thinking he was absolutely scum power-defending a partner. It is the only Town claim that makes sense toIn post 1048, -Grey- wrote:Magna for the love of God call bullshit.
1. Chainsaw defend ThingBig’s slot Page 1.
2. Think (incorrectly) that Masons excludes any other power-roles.
3. Whining about not following his reads like compliant sheep.
His blurt out is yet another example of him criminally mishandling the role if he is a Mason. I mean I’ve done my best to not directly out him after I had my realization but it has been hard. He played the role so poorly (including this reasonless claim) that I’ve had to spend as much of my time pointing out how his conclusions are bad as opposed to pushing on scum like Momo.
I mean – even 3 Masons in the set-up can certainly be viable with an X-Shot or Even / Odd Gunsmith and Vigilante against a Mafia Doctor so his “No Cops / Gunsmiths / Trackers / Whatever” PR speculation is unfounded. And his approach in immediately chainsawing for Matt on Page 1 is the worst way to handle the slightest amount of pressure on a Mason partner.
So get you vote back on Momo-scum.
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Firstly who says that I don’t have a scum-read on you still? I’ve very curious about how you came to that conclusion.In post 1025, Lycanfire wrote:So I'm going to come off as an asshole here but it's my impression that we make similar kinds of posts. In Spyro I made a catch up post agreeing with your wagon on Cakez being the best lynch of the day, gave a reason why, and then gave more reasons for why I thought Leon was scum, and started a vanity wagon. I don't do vanity wagons just to be against the grain. If one thing is a sure thing, but I think day benefits from being continued, to discuss things that were overlooked, I derail the primary wagon to discuss what I want to have discussed.
You hated that for some goddamn reason, and rather than work with me, or get me to elaborate why I promised a conftown Gin on Cakez scumflip, you said continued your line of reasoning that my slot was scum with Cakez due to a single associative from Cakez.
My point is that we're seeing this game completely differently and unlike in Spyro you're not treating me adversarially (where did your scumread on me go for instance?)
Secondly of course the facts and circumstances of this game are indeed worlds apart. I’m not saying that at all. What I am saying is that I had an accurate scum read on Cakez that game and let it go due to game circumstances. Cakez was easily framed as a similar “lazy read” that game and I was dead on. So the fact that you take such issue with my read on Momo hear is suspect, frankly.
And please don’t pretend your play there looked Town. You lurked like a champ when I as the back-up Mod of Darkest Dungeon knew you lurking was definitely in your scum toolbox. And you hitched yourself to Vifam who plays every game to make his scum game more effective so you had that going against you also. What reasonable conclusion did you expect me to reach that game when I was correctly reading Cakez as scum and saw play from your slot that said “reasonable partner”?
The fact that you are just saying “Well you had to think there was a scum counter-wagon going on if you are Town” is suspect Lycan. Multiple wagons on Town Day 1 happen all the time. Just saying “you should expect Boon or Elena to be a scum wagon if you are Town” shows to me you aren’t looking at the game-state. I posted pretty well documented train of thought why Elena’s quick wagon doesn’t make sense from either “Elean scum or Boon scum Elena Town” point of view. You ignore that and post this which is very simplified and doesn’t account for the actual way the game flowed.In post 1025, Lycanfire wrote:The premise was that from your point of view, assuming you were not being scum-wagoned (you seem distrustworthy of that in some post somewhere but that was my impression when you called 2F probably town), one of Boons or Elena makes sense as scum. If you did think you were being scum wagoned, then there's no real scum counter going on. Boons being scum would justify the Elena wagon while Elena being scum would justify how the Magna+Boons wagon ended up being dug in. That's my take on the wagon movement.
These responses and the way you are out of hand dismissive of Momo as scum makes you a possible partner pick with Momo from me.
