Mini Normal 1893 - I Keep Modding Minis Ending in 3 -endgame

[Fro99er]

hi guys i'm town

why the fuck is everyone replacing out?

[Fro99er]

people should stay in if they haven't replaced yet

[Fro99er]

oh god, Gerry is insufferable

now I see why everyone replaced

[Fro99er]

Yay! You finally posted!

I was gonna leave if you got replaced.

you better not fucking leave

[Fro99er]

yeah you suck at this dunn

[Fro99er]

dunn's never even completed a game with me and says this off nothing

[Fro99er]

jae talk to me about the gamestate please

[Fro99er]

that's ongoing and not completed

[Fro99er]

@mod if you have to replace me for dunn talking about ongoing i'll replace out

pedit: oh, its over?

[Fro99er]

yeah and what about that game makes me scum here?

please specify

[Fro99er]

you're terrible at this game

[Fro99er]

have you even ever fucking seen me play aside from cabd's game?

no

tell me why I'm scum. I dare you. Triple dog dare you.

[Fro99er]

YOU GUYS DUNN IS INCREDIBLE AT THIS GAME WE SHOULD ALL BOW DOWN TO THIS DUDE

[Fro99er]

ALISASE DON'T REPLACE OUT PLZ

[Fro99er]

FUCK THIS HE'S PROBABLY TOWN FOR BEING SO SHITTY

[Fro99er]

Your reactions/play so far in here make you seem pretty obviously scum from my point of view

you need to figure out how to actually play the game

[Fro99er]

I also don't believe you think I'd start talking about an ongoing game

I never got a PM from cabd about the end of the game. Ask cabd.

I peaced out on that game long ago

[Fro99er]

If you think this is a reason to scumread me then i'm gonna fucking rage

[Fro99er]

FUCK this dunn guy. Can anyone else tell me about the game state instead of just letting dunn tunnel me?

[Fro99er]

OH LOOK FROG IS FAKE ANGRY

[Fro99er]

dunn why don't you even care to work with me on helping me figure out the game state. I just replaced in and you assume I'm scum. that's objectively bad town play to not help a replace in who could be town try to figure out the game, or it's scum play. And I don't know which but I'm inclined to believed the former because scum probably doesn't do this.

[Fro99er]

Your reactions/play so far in here make you seem pretty obviously scum from my point of view

you need to figure out how to actually play the game

ok, tell me how I should be approaching you

NOT LIKE YOU FUCKING ARE

interact with me. I do my best with meta and interaction. Since I have no real meta with you other than a game I gave two shits about as a bodyguard why don't you walk me through the fucking game state.

[Fro99er]

Dunn is fucking town. There's zero chance this is scum pissing me off like this and actually trying to give me a skeptical shot at understanding

[Fro99er]

why are you scumreading the way I react? Tell me specifically

[Fro99er]

I assume you talked about ongoing because I thought the game was ongoing. How fucking hard is that to understand

[Fro99er]

I'm on the verge of requesting replace out

[Fro99er]

I'm on the verge of requesting replace out

I'd appreciate if you didn't act like I did something terrible to you for scumreading you and then calmly explaining my read

i'd appreciate it if you gave me a fucking chance to get into the game instead of scumreading me for reasons that don't exist

[Fro99er]

(though you don't know what my read on your slot before was)

I don't give two shits about what your read was on my slot before I replaced in. fucking read me. I'm here now. I'm fucking town.

[Fro99er]

And you say stuff like this multiple times

tell me what's scummy about that

[Fro99er]

you're still not helping me figure out the game state.

[Fro99er]

I fucking hate iso'ing on replace in. just go look up my meta for that. instead, interact with me and tell me what about jae it is you read (I don't even know if you town or scum read jae)

[Fro99er]

UNVOTE:

I'm struggling to get out of bed today froggy but impo is town. This is a very strong personal read from being friends with impo outside of ms and also having hydra'd with her as scum. I think gerry might be scum again for similar reasons to house of harmony and he also was posturing a lot wrt me.

Dunn is pretending like he hasn't seen a good range of my play along with doing...well, what he's doing right now, really, and it's pissing me off and might be compromising my ability to read him since I'm prone to omgus.

Your slot is nancy and she replaced for no reason which I feel was because of having an argument in the scum PT and RC replaced in and said he was surprised he replaces a scum slot then proceeded to troll for a few pages. He replaced out because I said I was going to because I don't want to play with scum!RC.

you think nancy replaced for arguing with scum!RC in a scum PT? Really?!

[Fro99er]

like that's a really fucking specific reason to scumread someone.

[Fro99er]

Once again, you seem to be insulted that I didn't immediately townread you with meta in this game, when really my focus this game has never been about you yet you've been butting in on my reads on other slots

I'm not insulted that you don't townread me with meta. I'm insulted you scum read me for fucking nothing.

[Fro99er]

I think gerry might be scum again for similar reasons to house of harmony and he also was posturing a lot wrt me.

talk to me about this more. I was otherscum vs Gerry and checked him and got a guilty, so I had no reason to read him. Why is he scum

[Fro99er]

Your slot is nancy and she replaced for no reason which I feel was because of having an argument in the scum PT and RC replaced in and said he was surprised he replaces a scum slot then proceeded to troll for a few pages. He replaced out because I said I was going to because I don't want to play with scum!RC.

I'm confused.

who did RC replace?

[Fro99er]

i'm so confused

[Fro99er]

so I replaced RC who replaced nancy?

[Fro99er]

is alisae in this game too?

would help if mod updated original post

[Fro99er]

Dark talk to me plz

[Fro99er]

why?

pedit: at dunn

[Fro99er]

The only replacements so far are on your slot. Alisae is replacing out

so nancy -> RC -> me?

I know I replaced RC. That's all I know

[Fro99er]

SOMEONE CALLED FOR ME

who is scum and why

[Fro99er]

starting to genuinely believe a nancy/dunnstral team is possible

hey so nancy is my slot?

Yo dunn we're obvscum together!

[Fro99er]

You and Dunn are the scum I think, with a hint of projectmatt

why am I scum.

go for it.

fucking tell me.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Dunnstral die scummy

WTF

VOTE: Dark

[Fro99er]

Hard to imagine Darklyn's read doesn't change after seeing Fro99er's reaction to me

explain

what was his read before

UNVOTE:

[Fro99er]

I think gerry might be scum again for similar reasons to house of harmony and he also was posturing a lot wrt me.

talk to me about this more. I was otherscum vs Gerry and checked him and got a guilty, so I had no reason to read him. Why is he scum

Mainly his posturing against me this game, but also his tryhard early game that he never does as town.

Like he pointed out Penguin mafia but there he didn't tryhard until near the end of D1 iirc. The beginning was a lot of trolling. This is more reminiscent of Dream mafia where I noted he was tryharding and he said he wasn't, then said he was tryharding because it was Maria's game, and I let him off the hook for it because I thought reading him based off meta was kinda douchey. But I was right.

viewtopic.php?p=8824025#p8824025 - House of Harmony post on his meta (bits on gerry in the spoiler).

Spoiler: bunch of quotes from this game on my gerry read

Crash's post was bad, gerry's post is bad. 787 just bleeds of posturing and fake thought process all over.

I'll answer, though.

At first glance of this game, I wanted to try and get a better feel before making my first serious vote. There are a couple of things that I want to go over, before I do eventually vote.

1. JaeReed.

There is something that is bothering me about them this game. It's nothing that I can say that is scummy, but based on my past experience with them, they feel.. Different. For once, I want to say that they feel way more aggressive to what I'm used to. I know that they are trying to defend Impoetic, which I can see the reasoning for, but it feels a bit over the top to me. Is it not possible that Impoetic knows that you can read her, and she is specifically doing something to break your read on her? How come there hasn't been any visable thought of you thinking about this as a possibility?

As I stated earlier, you are being way more aggressive than I am used to. Is there a reason for this? Because the times as town, you really haven't been too aggressive unless you were defending a townread, but you're aggressive this whole game, regardless if it's defending or not. Can you shine a light onto why you're doing this? I believe the only time I've seen you as scum would be in a hydra with Impoetic, and I did correctly call you out as scum, after I was the day 1 lynch (surprise)

I'm pretty sure I've played aggressively before in a game you've been in, the way I was going himiko and Trans in Pantheon mafia? Anyway, you mentioned even in this quote that I hydra'd with Impo as scum. I know her thought process as scum and her reactions, this just isn't it. I know her outside of games too, and I pay attention to her

because i'm a creepy stalker

. It's like the level you can soulread Claire (which I've seen you do before in Penguin mafia). There's just no way Impo is scum, she can't fool me especially when she wasn't even aware if she needed to. Like I never mentioned to her about the diff in her scum and towngames since I didn't play with her after Trial anyways since she quit forum maf.

If you want meta where I'm aggressive, Double Day Hydra Blitz is a good one, I was Chihiro in the Chihiro and Alter Ego hydra. viewtopic.php?f=83&t=70181

But there's been a lot of times where I've seen people as conftown from early game (and been right) like Ranger's micro with Charloux and Nahdia, the read on MURDERCAT in Nahdia's mini normal, C9++ on Charloux, Trees newbie on KTS. There's a reason my sig has that Charl quote.

Anyways
1st question: No I do not believe she could be doing anything to fool me, I know her too well.
2nd question: Because it's not a possibility.
3rd question: Sometimes I feel more aggressive in a game. Sometimes I feel awfully lazy. Depends on how I feel like approaching any given game.
4th question: See above.

Also the statement about calling me correctly as scum, you never did it in the main thread so it didn't matter ;p but also, it was like 5 minutes to deadline with the person who said he'd hammer you not being around and it was D1. Arguably I did the most protown thing there by hammering and I desperately wished I hadn't been awake and posting for it because of that. I would have hammered you as town because a D1 no lynch is awful for town. So thinking I was maf for the hammer is bad reasoning anyway.

I'm pretty sure I've played aggressively before in a game you've been in, the way I was going himiko and Trans in Pantheon mafia?

Isn't that the one where you were third party and not town?

Survivor that could win with town and was playing like a mason because of it, yeah.

What's your point, gerry? Because the last time you tried this angle you were scum.

There's scum in Dunnstral/gerry

This is more likely to be scum!gerry, my meta tell seems to be holding up and he's intent on discrediting me, which he did in this game: http://emforummaf.prophpbb.com/topic9-125.html#p1810 where he was mafia traitor.

And defensive is an entirely different look, gerryboy, which you know anyway. You're posturing again.

VOTE: gerryoat

The point I was making about his posturing is valid regardless of the site.

Alright, so I 100% believe this meta read (that doesn't mean I believe you're town...it means I believe what you are saying). And I'm a very heavy meta player.

But I'm not sold on Gerry meta if there's nothing more than meta, simply because I don't personally have a meta read of Gerry.

As much as I hate playing with him because he acts like he's god's gift to man and thinks he's the greatest thing on earth, I am still going to say I have no idea how to read him.

I will say, I do think he does try hard more as scum especially based off your evidence and what I've seen of him. And I know this looks like me frog appeasing you but I don't give a fuck. I think this is good shit.

[Fro99er]

what was his read before

This:

starting to genuinely believe a nancy/dunnstral team is possible

over their reads agreeing?

indeed

That's his most current opinion

can you explain to me like i'm 3 years old?

i'm totally fucking lost

[Fro99er]

but also his tryhard early game that he never does as town.

Yeah, don't scumread someone for this please.

It has a 100% success rate so far. It's only when I drop that meta read on him that I ever misread him.

I actually agree with both of you.

It's a meta read I'm attuned to, but not specifically that I think I can't be fooled. That said, backtesting I agree that's his meta. It doesn't mean its predictive of his town/scum game

[Fro99er]

That's biased town imo. I think you're reading things at a surface level which is why I have an issue with you in this game because I know you're better than that. Like, your play seems to have undergone a drastic change in the period of 3(?) months and it's really disconcerting.

I think saying I'm reading things at a surface level is really unfair, I'd say I'm definitely not reading things at a surface level

I'd agree you aren't surface-level reading.

I think you're town simply because your push on me without giving me a chance and then reconsidering isn't scum motivated. If you are scum you can just continue to push me for no fucking reason on my replace in.

[Fro99er]

can you explain to me like i'm 3 years old?

i'm totally fucking lost

Those are his posts

About my slot in relation to your slot

I still have zero idea what you are talking about

please literally explain to me who you are reading and the exact details of why.

I honestly need this help because I've replaced in and I haven't read and the only people I've interacted with are you and Jae.

[Fro99er]

That indicates his read

Otherwise, you have to ask him yourself

STOP THIS PLEASE TALK TO ME LIKE I'M THREE

[Fro99er]

That indicates his read

Otherwise, you have to ask him yourself

I HAVE ZERO CLUE WHAT THIS REFERS TO

just simplify things for me

one fucking tyrhard post. with tags and details and explanations

PLEASE

[Fro99er]

Alright I'm gonna read this game when i'm more sober. I honestly have zero clue what Dunn is talking about because I can't be arsed to read while drunk

[Fro99er]

I think gerry might be scum again for similar reasons to house of harmony and he also was posturing a lot wrt me.

talk to me about this more. I was otherscum vs Gerry and checked him and got a guilty, so I had no reason to read him. Why is he scum

Mainly his posturing against me this game, but also his tryhard early game that he never does as town.

Like he pointed out Penguin mafia but there he didn't tryhard until near the end of D1 iirc. The beginning was a lot of trolling. This is more reminiscent of Dream mafia where I noted he was tryharding and he said he wasn't, then said he was tryharding because it was Maria's game, and I let him off the hook for it because I thought reading him based off meta was kinda douchey. But I was right.

viewtopic.php?p=8824025#p8824025 - House of Harmony post on his meta (bits on gerry in the spoiler).

Spoiler: bunch of quotes from this game on my gerry read

Crash's post was bad, gerry's post is bad. 787 just bleeds of posturing and fake thought process all over.

I'll answer, though.

At first glance of this game, I wanted to try and get a better feel before making my first serious vote. There are a couple of things that I want to go over, before I do eventually vote.

1. JaeReed.

There is something that is bothering me about them this game. It's nothing that I can say that is scummy, but based on my past experience with them, they feel.. Different. For once, I want to say that they feel way more aggressive to what I'm used to. I know that they are trying to defend Impoetic, which I can see the reasoning for, but it feels a bit over the top to me. Is it not possible that Impoetic knows that you can read her, and she is specifically doing something to break your read on her? How come there hasn't been any visable thought of you thinking about this as a possibility?

As I stated earlier, you are being way more aggressive than I am used to. Is there a reason for this? Because the times as town, you really haven't been too aggressive unless you were defending a townread, but you're aggressive this whole game, regardless if it's defending or not. Can you shine a light onto why you're doing this? I believe the only time I've seen you as scum would be in a hydra with Impoetic, and I did correctly call you out as scum, after I was the day 1 lynch (surprise)

I'm pretty sure I've played aggressively before in a game you've been in, the way I was going himiko and Trans in Pantheon mafia? Anyway, you mentioned even in this quote that I hydra'd with Impo as scum. I know her thought process as scum and her reactions, this just isn't it. I know her outside of games too, and I pay attention to her

because i'm a creepy stalker

. It's like the level you can soulread Claire (which I've seen you do before in Penguin mafia). There's just no way Impo is scum, she can't fool me especially when she wasn't even aware if she needed to. Like I never mentioned to her about the diff in her scum and towngames since I didn't play with her after Trial anyways since she quit forum maf.

If you want meta where I'm aggressive, Double Day Hydra Blitz is a good one, I was Chihiro in the Chihiro and Alter Ego hydra. viewtopic.php?f=83&t=70181

But there's been a lot of times where I've seen people as conftown from early game (and been right) like Ranger's micro with Charloux and Nahdia, the read on MURDERCAT in Nahdia's mini normal, C9++ on Charloux, Trees newbie on KTS. There's a reason my sig has that Charl quote.

Anyways
1st question: No I do not believe she could be doing anything to fool me, I know her too well.
2nd question: Because it's not a possibility.
3rd question: Sometimes I feel more aggressive in a game. Sometimes I feel awfully lazy. Depends on how I feel like approaching any given game.
4th question: See above.

Also the statement about calling me correctly as scum, you never did it in the main thread so it didn't matter ;p but also, it was like 5 minutes to deadline with the person who said he'd hammer you not being around and it was D1. Arguably I did the most protown thing there by hammering and I desperately wished I hadn't been awake and posting for it because of that. I would have hammered you as town because a D1 no lynch is awful for town. So thinking I was maf for the hammer is bad reasoning anyway.

I'm pretty sure I've played aggressively before in a game you've been in, the way I was going himiko and Trans in Pantheon mafia?

Isn't that the one where you were third party and not town?

Survivor that could win with town and was playing like a mason because of it, yeah.

What's your point, gerry? Because the last time you tried this angle you were scum.

There's scum in Dunnstral/gerry

This is more likely to be scum!gerry, my meta tell seems to be holding up and he's intent on discrediting me, which he did in this game: http://emforummaf.prophpbb.com/topic9-125.html#p1810 where he was mafia traitor.

And defensive is an entirely different look, gerryboy, which you know anyway. You're posturing again.

VOTE: gerryoat

The point I was making about his posturing is valid regardless of the site.

Alright, so I 100% believe this meta read (that doesn't mean I believe you're town...it means I believe what you are saying). And I'm a very heavy meta player.

But I'm not sold on Gerry meta if there's nothing more than meta, simply because I don't personally have a meta read of Gerry.

As much as I hate playing with him because he acts like he's god's gift to man and thinks he's the greatest thing on earth, I am still going to say I have no idea how to read him.

I will say, I do think he does try hard more as scum especially based off your evidence and what I've seen of him. And I know this looks like me frog appeasing you but I don't give a fuck. I think this is good shit.

...look in the spoiler for my quotes on him this game. There's more than meta. I called out his posturing.

Why are you dismissing it all as meta without looking at the quotes from this game that I provided you?

Because I haven't fucking read yet and that's how it came across to me

[Fro99er]

I honestly didn't even fucking see the spoiler quotes

[Fro99er]

Meh, this will sound scummy just for me saying it but...

Scum me could have just jumped to a conclusion one way or the other about Gerry and/or whoever Dunn is trying to get me to read (I already forget...I watch NASCAR on Sunday's and drink heavily)

I'm obviously scum for bringing this up

[Fro99er]

I wasn't trying to get a conclusion by asking you to iso jaereed

I was asking you to get a grasp on the game

Alright I'm gonna read this game when i'm more sober. I honestly have zero clue what Dunn is talking about because I can't be arsed to read while drunk

you must be blackout drunk right now or something

It's a NASCAR Sunday. Forgive me

[Fro99er]

I didn't feel like gerry was tryharding like he does normally he just has a weird tone

Explain

[Fro99er]

and I don't think rc and dunnstral agreeing isindicative of a team read

but what do you think of dark?

I already know that there's no indication of a team read

Shocker

So do i

[Fro99er]

Dunn. If I told you I needed 3 year old help through this game, could you actually give me that?

I'm hammered

[Fro99er]

I'm just not comfortable with saying his slot is 100% town, so he's scum for now.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

[Fro99er]

At first I thought there was no way I was seriously voting RC, because his trolling is normal every game, but when he replaed out I got a bit questionable because it seemed like some kind of play to get his slot to win. Not sure if that's allowed, regardless it's a bad move. Then Frogger comes in and the first thing he says is pretty much "hi guys why is everyone replacing" but in a really acting way, lke he's trying to get towncred for saying it. I'll continue reading, but I might vote.

What is acting about it

Go look at the mod's replacement request. I see three people replacing our and want to know why

March 17 -

Mini Normal 1893

Moderator:

mhsmith0

Status:

Day 1, 41 pages

Replacing:

RadiantCowbells,

usagichan

, Alisae

[Fro99er]

Froggy then claims he didn't know nancy was the original slot like wtf nancy is still on the front page of the game as living, it's another attempt to towntell because he knows we know he can see nancy in the scum pt.

How was I supposed to know RC replaced nancy when i was never told this by the mod. I was told i replaced RC and yes nancy is in the original post but nowhere (at the time of my replace in, before it gets edited) did it say RC replaced nancy.

[Fro99er]

I'm undrunk now

VOTE: Dark

[Fro99er]

Frog is still scum

why...

tell me why. Because i'm fucking town here.

[Fro99er]

I'm town too so pls don't fall for that Dunnstral inspired push on me

I'll think about it

UNVOTE:

[Fro99er]

Why are y'all confused by 1190? Frogger has towntold several times, to me either he's faking it or he's not. If he's not, he must be town, if he is, he must not be. I don't feel comfortable with believing frogger's slot must not be town, because nancy came off as scum and so did RC.

So you're saying I have a polarized range. So why are you defaulting to "I'm bluffing" (scum) instead of "holding the nuts" (town)?

[Fro99er]

I mean froggy hasn't looked like town!frog and I'll v likely be back there unless he does so. I don't think his emotional responses so far were outside his scum range.

Then just vote me now

bring it on

[Fro99er]

That statistic came from a sample of 8 games, but the statistic doesn't really matter in the first place. What really matters in this type of game is the context. Which, thinking about it, I agree, I guess a lynch would be the best for gathering information.

Dunn's slip didn't seem like a joke, and even if it was the joke didn't provide any valid argument against what I was saying other than to discredit my point and sweep it under the rug. I am now convinced dunn is scum, and that the push on frogger was staged.
VOTE: Dunnstral

VOTE: Trivium

why the fuck are you afraid to push me, and are pushing dunn instead? YES THIS IS ME DEFENDING DUNN while at the same time scumreading Trivium.

Trivium is using moonlogic to get to the dunn scumread.

I felt my interaction with Dunn was pretty fucking natural, even if I was drunk. He actually fucking tried to sort me.

the slip was blatantly fucking obvious and not a valid reason to scumread Dunn.

[Fro99er]

...I can't tell if Trivium is dropping scumtells because he's bad or because he's scum anymore.

THINK ABOUT IT

[Fro99er]

That's not a slip. A slip is posting something that clearly meant for the scum PT in a neighbourhood PT or something similar, and even then it's not really.

Scum like pushing on things as slips when they're not really so as to make their vote seem justified.
Bad town also do this because they simply don't know how to properly scumhunt though.

VOTE: Fro99er
I'm back to here. Pretty sure this is the right lynch for today.

So you're just going to handwave the Trivium thing?

Why would you do that? I thought that was one of your best scumtells.

I don't mind you pushing me...you're just blatantly wrong.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Darklyn

VOTE: Dunnstral die scummy

WTF

VOTE: Dark

Hard to imagine Darklyn's read doesn't change after seeing Fro99er's reaction to me

explain

what was his read before

UNVOTE:

I'm undrunk now

VOTE: Dark

And what's your point here?

[Fro99er]

Hello. Someone catch me up. I will try and get page by page reactions up soon.

people are being dumb and thinking i'm scum but don't actually have any good reasons.

that's about all I got.

Dunn is town for actually trying to figure me out.

[Fro99er]

Friendly reminder to vote jae

I can think about this.

Although I think I'd be OMGUSing, and I actually think Jae believes their meta push on you.

I need to stew on it.

[Fro99er]

My apologies for any inconvenience (as well as my absence yesterday evening). Upon updating my VC spreadsheet, I saw that the following situation happened yesterday:

Fro99er (7)

Transcend , Fro99er , JaeReed , Darklyn , Impoetic , Crash , Dunnstral , L-0

By simple counting, and presuming that a slot's votes are binding on their replacements, this would be a hammer. HOWEVER, I consider it inappropriate to have a replace-in be self-voting upon replace in and have such a self-vote actually count. Therefore I am counting Fro9 as having automatically unvoted himself when he replaced in, and therefore and considering the hammer to be invalid. This situation in particular will be addressed and made explicit in future rule sets of mine.

My apologies again for the inconvenience. If anyone disagrees with my ruling, please PM me privately.[/color]

Wait what?

LMAO, I should be hammered then. I don't think it's inappropriate.

I just fucked up and didn't see my slot's self vote, which is objectively bad play by me.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Frogger

I think that's the only fair resolution

[Fro99er]

p.16-The fact that the red part of the list Triv quoted makes him think Jae is town is ridiculous.

Read on Jae is scummy, especially after seeing read list. But then again, it looks like a skim read and that he did not fully analyze the post so going to cut him slack.

Anyone who has played with scum!Trivium before, does he lurk as scum???

momo can be town

[Fro99er]

p.16-

The fact that the red part of the list Triv quoted makes him think Jae is town is ridiculous

.

Read on Jae is scummy, especially after seeing read list. But then again, it looks like a skim read and that he did not fully analyze the post so going to cut him slack.

Anyone who has played with scum!Trivium before, does he lurk as scum???

Actually it was the opposite, I thought it was scummy.

well now i'm going to have to read it

[Fro99er]

Transcend - reads are ok, maybe town, kinda tryharding tho so paranoid of this
gerryoat - tryharding, probscum for it
Darklyn - obvtown
Juri - dunno, maybe town
Trivium - null
Crash - null
Impoetic - obvtown, this just isn't her scum play, i'd know considering we hydra'd as scum
projectmatt - scum, most posts are posturing
Dunnstral - null
JaeReed - me!
nancy - null
Alisae - scum, I can read this with scary accuracy, trans he was trying to buddy you earlier and there are also partner pings with matt if you check
usagichan - null

if you want a free scum lynch then it's Ali, if you want to save him for later that's fine too

just remember he's scum when i'm nightkilled.

pedit trans you always scumread me early game, i wouldn't play this way as scum so you're wasting your time
pedit2 lol ok that was actually funny

So I started off thinking imp was scum, then I figured project matt, and I still do at this point in the game, but at the same time I

really

got pinged by this red highlight here.

lol yeah Trivium is sayin Jae pinged as scum

[Fro99er]

25-Transcend not acting like he normally does at all. Gerry somewhere in between town read and lock!town.

help me understand this

[Fro99er]

Looking so hard the last few pages for something to clear Transcend's name but nope.

Putting Transcend as scummier than impo now. Don't have meta so I am prob. not the best one to make read. Meta is not everything but should be part of a read.

P.5-Is impoetic normally try-hard???

Dont remember Transcend ever being this desperate to find scum as town before. Most probably faking it.

How is that not meta?

momo might not be town?

[Fro99er]

Frogger at this stage is highly likely to flip scum even disregarding his predecessors I think. Fully encourage him to change my mind on that if he's town.

you still haven't given a single damn reason why

[Fro99er]

Frog is light scum lean, not near my other reads.

explain

tell me why. I want people to give reasons why so I can pick out which people are BSing and which actually have a legit scumread of me.

that will help on my town flip

[Fro99er]

VOTE: fro99er
whoops

yo, why am I scum

still want reasons from people.

[Fro99er]

By the way I'm a vanilla townie

shut up

we're masons...that's how you knew nancy didn't post in the scum PT

[Fro99er]

Or Transcend himself?? He is not playing like he normally does.

didn't you just say you don't have meta on him?

[Fro99er]

Don't have meta so I am prob. not the best one to make read.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Projectmatt

VOTE: projectmatt

Right, well, that's creepy.

what's the fucking point in making this observation

[Fro99er]

yo guys trivium is scum

but I should be voted dead.

[Fro99er]

tell me why i'm scum

[Fro99er]

I don't think he is tbh

sure, because you ass-backwardly think dunn and I are scum

Dunn is town. I'm town.

[Fro99er]

still refusing to give an answer about why you think I'm scum.

[Fro99er]

Frogger quit trying to kill yourself and vote for what you believe in.

I honestly believe that I should be dead. That was a lynch.

[Fro99er]

because I ship Fro99er x Dunnstal

that's the shittiest reason ever.

so you don't actually scumread ME. You scumread dunn and think dunn made up a read on me

[Fro99er]

Frogger quit trying to kill yourself and vote for what you believe in.

I honestly believe that I should be dead. That was a lynch.

ALISAE SELFVOTED

I didn't replace alisae

[Fro99er]

RC SELFVOTED AND YOU ARE ACTIVELY CHOOSING TO GO AGAINST THE HOST BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE IT WHICH IS AWFUL AS EITHER ALIGNMENT

please don't use tiny text

[Fro99er]

so then why do you want to be hammered?

Because I was hammered and the mod somehow ruled I wasn't.

[Fro99er]

So why not play the game that is already a huge mess

I am playing the game.

I'm giving my reads, trying to interact with people. And you're sitting here screaming over nothing.

[Fro99er]

someone selfvoted and then subbed out.

That's objectively bad play.

TRying to get oneself lynched because you're unhappy with the game is also objectively bad play.

not seeing something is just not seeing something.

I'm not happy with this, and if fro99er is scum I don't see it as benefiting them because the act in and of itself is making me think they might be scum again just because it makes so little sense as town

not enough to want a DERP HAMMER to go through unnecessarily

I can't even follow your logic.


I honestly believe I should be lynched, because I already was. I missed the self vote when I replaced in, and I should have seen it and didn't. That's just bad play by me for not unvoting on my first post. I was lynched, period.

[Fro99er]

We can talk about this more post-game. But I serisously 100% think we should be moving on to night phase because I was actually lynched.

@Mod, can we get a listmod ruling?

[Fro99er]

you can argue with the mod in PMs

RC selfed and then subbed out without unselfing, and unless scum intentionally faked it no one else realized you were being hammered, so it was a derp. If scum is frustrated THEY can PM him, too. This is making it harder to play and largely wasting d1 regardless of your flip

I'm not wasting this day phase. YOU are by brinigng it up again and again.

I was just trying to sort people. Why are you harping on and on about this and accusing me of being the one making it harder to play.

[Fro99er]

didn't get a pedit. Done talking about it.

[Fro99er]

what's wrong Fro99er?

what's wrong with what?

your read of me?

Everything. You've given zero reason for it other than you think dunn is scum.