Mini Normal 1919: Endgame

[Vedith]

Welcome, Vedith!

[Vedith]

@Chilly - Who's scum?

[Vedith]

Oh, hi TwoFace!

[Vedith]

Is Chilly town for you, TwoFace?

[Vedith]

Tchill, he goes by the name of Chilly on MS.

[Vedith]

Why?

[Vedith]

Do you townread Tchill already or something? ^

Me and Chilly are best friends.

[Vedith]

D'ohhh alrighty!
If you're gonna read and catch up, I must apologize for the shitposts.
Though page 5 is golden.

Anyway... Lookin' forward to seeing your play. owo

Yeah I'll read up properly tomorrow!

It's been quite a while since we played! Should be fun.

[Vedith]

Well he started off lying about me. He's done nothing of value in the middle and finished it off with some buddying

Is this true, Chilly?

[Vedith]

That isn't a good enough reason town read somebody and technically against site rules. But hey they don't enforce them anyway so I guess carry on

I never said I town read him.
But he's my go to in this game.

Plus - I don't break rules like that, don't try to imply I do, it makes me very angry.

[Vedith]

carcalilly is who I want to lynch today though.

Sell it.

[Vedith]

Oh, so you think that Carcalilly is just lying. Why though?
Only gut?

[Vedith]

I disgaree, page 11 is golden. Nearly pissed my pants.

Anyway, serious note, Vedith, TwoFace's post doesn't give that much content but when you catch up you'll completely understand why he's voting on Carcalilly. I too would vote her but I rather wait when I can use my laptop to dig on a lot of players and think through. I'm on my phone and it's hard to do so.

I also believe Tchill could be scum as well.
Shuffleplay replaced out and I was starting to think she is scum, so just letting you know, you're on my scums list until you can prove otherwise.


Anyway, welcome to this game.

Plus points for you.
But just to let you know, I don't care if you scum read me, I'm not here to impress.

[Vedith]

Horrible use of the same emoji 2X in a row. SCum flail at what to say and go back to confomrt. Oh, and they talk about scumreading without doing any themselves. BAD.

Terrible opinion.
I use emoji a lot. Why does it mean AI?

[Vedith]

Denied. Emojis are fine, using the same one twice is a comfort tell from scum early game. Try again.

I disagree

[Vedith]

Denied. Emojis are fine, using the same one twice is a comfort tell from scum early game. Try again.

I disagree

Your wrong.

But I'm right here.

[Vedith]

Denied. Emojis are fine, using the same one twice is a comfort tell from scum early game. Try again.

I disagree

Your wrong.

But I'm right here.

Wrong

So am I Scum now for using the same one?

[Vedith]

Well, that's disappointing.
But really it's 2am. Night night.

[Vedith]

581 seems too oblivious, like if he hasn't read the game why is he voting all over the place and on wagons?

I agree with this. Also, trying to look oblivious could be a way to look town? As they're the uninformed.

If you vote for Mulch I'll jump on and take less flak for lynching town. I won't just vote him and push him though or that will make me look bad

FTFY

[Vedith]

I'm sorry but that was just such a bad post from Taco!

[Vedith]

Boonskiies, why is Branson Scum?

[Vedith]

I also have a feeling my best friend Chilly lied to me and is Scum.

[Vedith]

VOTE: empiricus

Yeah Chilly is scum!

VOTE: Chilly

[Vedith]

Who you thinking here, Taco?

Idk right now. We need more people to post. I mean i was just thinking, know what would be funny? if we all townies argue and lynch each other, doing scum's work when some people haven't posted yet and they could be scums. xD

This is what Mafia is all about.
I can almost guarantee you that at least one scum is lurking right now waiting for exactly that.

I'm not opposed to just lynching the least active player unless someone in play is actively scummy. At least in the first round, since that is the round that is both the easiest to float through and the one that leaves the most data to go through after a lynch.

I don't care what reasoning you're trying to justify it with.

[Vedith]

I'm scum

I can do it.

[Vedith]

Wow... Scums can really benefit this by a lot but then if people actually look closely then they're screwed.

Anyway, Carcalilly, I already buddied you.

So, Vedithm why do you think Chilly is scum?

If anyone tries to to alter a post without making it clear, they're scum. But it's a lie that can easily be caught out.

Because Chilly ignored me calling him scum, and instead went for that ole opportunity vote.
I checked Chilly's ISO and found very little to vote empiricus, and I can only see that empiricus was a town read to Chilly.

[Vedith]

Well what would you like me to say vedith? So I'm your 1st big scum read this game? Do you have any strong town reads yet?

No, not yet!
I'm waiting for people to woo me!

[Vedith]

Why is Branson town?

Although you were on it, but not now, what do you think of Carcalilly?
If you say scum, then you're just biased.

[Vedith]

its so hard for me not to respond to this with a bad meme fml

Any opinions on the arguments and cases goin' around?

Which cases and arguments?

[Vedith]

Branson thoughts on sergtacos and Carcalilly really lined up with mine. Other than the self Meta thing she proclaimed dead null I just don't know how to take the self meta thing. Then mulch makes THE point for scum Carcalilly. Branson quotes and says welcome to my strong town list. So Branson is town for me at this point.

You realise how ridicules that sounds, right?

[Vedith]

This is why Carcalilly is scum. She also posts a lot of fluff.

Fluff doesn't mean scum.

So why are you not voting scum?
Instead you are diverting to another person with no votes on them.

You can see why I'm calling you scum, right?

[Vedith]

Well yeah but you replied before I could show you what THE point was.

I have a habit of being premature at times.

[Vedith]

I also like 139 from a town mind.

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We should lynch 1 of them then, right?

[Vedith]

On Day 1 we'd get more information from another lynch but if that continues from those slots if they're town scum will want to take them to the end so yes they should be lynched eventually. I'd just like to get as much information as possible from the 1st day and night phases.

Hey, if they're not doing anything now, we should pressure one.
I'm going to push one of them, which one, Boonskiies or Fykus?

[Vedith]

VOTE: Boonskiies
Woo me, Boonskiies!

[Vedith]

Boonskiies, why is Branson Scum?

[Vedith]

I'm sure you just missed my comment!
And not just ignored it!

[Vedith]

Then who should we lynch over null slots? Who's the cases other than carcalilly?

I could still lynch you.

[Vedith]

I only skimmed the pages after wherever my color wheel. I explained why in that post.

I might be reconsidering my Branson read, though in the first place, and I felt a little Carca chainsaw action when she talked to me about Empiricus.

It's too hard for me to look back, just tell me the case you had on him again.
Also - Chilly is scum, is he not?

[Vedith]

And I've made some cases on Branson, I've made my case on Empiricus.

Empiricus is probably going to be the person this game that I scum read early, can't get people to lynch him or even consider him, and then he's lynched Day 3, and he's scum.

Talk to me about Empiricus then. I can consider voting where makes sense. So far I'm not impressed with anyone.

[Vedith]

I might have mixed up one of Tchill's earlier posts with someone else. Oops.

Tchill, why did you switch from Carca, to Empiricus, and end up on Fykus? That thought process doesn't make sense to me.

Like, I hate to say it because the Fykus wagon were all some of my town reads, but I can't actually see it as all town due to how/why it was formed.

It looked like Chilly saw my comment of pushing either you Fykus and thought "Oh hey, Vedith might stop scum reading me!" so he went with the easier push.
Then Trivium and Taco's were like "Oh yeah, lets bus an easy lynch".

le End.

[Vedith]

So why would you be voting me exactly?

Because you're scum!
Give me 1 scum member name and I'll let you live.

[Vedith]

Empiricus - Okay, so you all are going to hate this as a reasoning, but his first post in the game screams scum to me. Like, screams. Like, my ex girlfriend just broke into my house at night, started shrieking, ate my pillow, punched my framed picture of ScarJo, and then stabbed me in the leg with a fork at 2:37 am. It just came off to me as "Oh, hmm, I need to fabricate a post somewhere. This is an obvious joke! This is funny AND safe! I would say this even if I were town...yeah." Scum. This piled onto the fact he is pushing Serg/2F as scum seems like he's not scum hunting, and is just going for people he thinks a wagon could be built upon without him making a case. (he does kind of make cases, but meh.

'sup folks, this'll be fun!

VOTE: Klazam
Why do you want to fight the taco? I wanted to be the one to fight the taco!

I don't see this point, but that doesn't mean you're wrong.
Who piled onto Empiricus?

taken directly from my color wheel. He hasn't done a whole lot, so there's not too much to go off of. I'm trying to read more closely than the pages I just skimmed, but I'm most curious as to why Tchill went to Empiricus after saying Branson's case makes sense, only to then go to Fykus and basically creature Carca's counterwagon.

From what I've got so far, there's a lot of people haven't done a whole lot.
With Chilly, not to mention the only times he mentions Emp is when he's saying or implying town. Emp just looks like a really easy vote now, given that they are useless.

Right now, because of Chilly, I see Emp less as scum. So who else has negative feedback regarding Emp?

[Vedith]

It's hard for me to legitimately put forth a max effort in scum hunting on day 1. We don't have any solid evidence in who voted where on a lynch like we would in day 2. We actually have the least amount of evidence that we will on this day phase. I tend to throw my vote around as a way to get reactions and reads. I'm not particularly interested in looking towny on day 1 I'm just trying to get reads on slots so I'll have information moving forward.

So what reactions have you picked up on so far?

[Vedith]

@Vedith - I don't see Emp as an easy vote for people. For some reason, many are town reading him. I'm also wondering: why did this happen? ^ especially considering you stated Tchill's only thing on Emp was a town read statement.

Who town reads Emp?

[Vedith]

Mulch you fucking liar!
But yeah, Chilly is scum.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Chilly

I urge everyone to vote here.
I am his best friend and I read him better than anyone!

[Vedith]

I was scum reading Emp.

Can you show me where?

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I think Mulch is bussing. VOTE: Tchill

The entire scum team can bus. I'll give each and everyone of them a +.

[Vedith]

I was scum reading Emp.

Can you show me where?

I will later, gimme about 6 hours top.

No worries.
If I find it first I'll let you know.

[Vedith]

Lynching me pre Day 3 is just a policy lynch.

Is this your ego?

[Vedith]

So I voted fykus on vedith's suggestion then a wagon forms on me? Thinks buddy lol.

That wagon escalated really dang quickly

Do you doubt me?

[Vedith]

And I'm pretty sure I caused more cases and reasons to vote Tchill than Vedith. I think you could tell it was obviously coming, and that I did it separate from Vedith. Vedith had his own reasons. He's the ice cream, to my whipped cream and hot fudge with the works.

Omg I'm something!!!

[Vedith]

So if the wagon goes through... Do these guys get major town cred when I flip vanilla townie?

No, they get lynched!

[Vedith]

if chilly flips town then we should probably look into vedith tomorrow

You think?

[Vedith]

Carcalilly is also scum.

[Vedith]

boon what are your thoughts on this?

Read earlier where I done it.
It's NAI.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Carcalilly

Easy game, easy money!

[Vedith]

Ok so why is Carcalilly scummy enough to vote over me now?

Because I'm always right.

[Vedith]

Ok so why is Carcalilly scummy enough to vote over me now?

Because I'm always right.

*boon ain't the only one with an ego

[Vedith]

Ok so why is Carcalilly scummy enough to vote over me now?

Because I'm always right.

Are you though?

VOTE: Carcalilly

Yeah I am. Scum always pull that shit.

[Vedith]

THIS PUTS HIM AT L-1. PLEASE, DO NOT HAMMER UNTIL HE'S HAD A FINAL WORD. ALSO, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE AN INTENT TO HAMMER, SAY SO.

This.

[Vedith]

THIS PUTS HIM AT L-1. PLEASE, DO NOT HAMMER UNTIL HE'S HAD A FINAL WORD. ALSO, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE AN INTENT TO HAMMER, SAY SO.

This.

they always did this for us in the newbie games...

We didn't do it in our game!

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Yeah, I totally think they could be scum busing

I think you're right.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Chilly

[Vedith]

Never listen to Drixx!

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Vedith you were the chosen one. You were supposed to bring balance back to this mafia game.

I saw how people treated you and that made me hate!
Now I'm killing the young ones!

[Vedith]

People I don't like for town

Chilly
Carcalilly
Fykus

People I do like
Boonskiies
Taco
Mulch

Rest are nobodies

[Vedith]

Protection on boon tonight if red.

[Vedith]

Taco

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not a hammer.

Don't let Tchill derpfaketownslip.

If he's town, im lynching you tomorrow.

No.

[Vedith]

If town lynch Fykus.

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When you're hungry

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TB - you missed the hammer

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Who's the 7th voter? We don't have it. He's still L-1.

Did you miss it?

[Vedith]

Idk what to do. I like how you're pressuring for a hammer before 5 people can react though. That's nice.

No one else matters but me!

[Vedith]

UNVOTE:

[Vedith]

UNVOTE:

Two reasons

One, I want to see what other people will say

Two, I want to be that guy that gets to hammer so I can post my Thor Gif. It looks epic.

I'm nacho friend anymore...

[Vedith]

Then lynch me D2, simple as that boy.

[Vedith]

It's plausible, but I want to see Chilly's flip.

[Vedith]

TBH, I'm starting to think you're scum. Tchill has been scum hunting. You're taking control of the game, and typically scums try to do that.

It's NAI - more of a personality trait.

[Vedith]

I swear everything in this game is nai

Not really...

[Vedith]

top

Ha!

[Vedith]

Carcalilly went quiet to avoid focus.

[Vedith]

Carcalilly went quiet to avoid focus.

She has a life.

Only scum go outside.

[Vedith]

But seriously though, Boon is acting more and more scummier. Take a look guys.

He's not being lynched.

[Vedith]

The team I'm guessing is Boon, Mulch, and Vedith or Boon, Mulch, and Carcalilly.

[Vedith]

@Boons - is this a newbie game?

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THIS PUTS HIM AT L-1. PLEASE, DO NOT HAMMER UNTIL HE'S HAD A FINAL WORD. ALSO, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE AN INTENT TO HAMMER, SAY SO.

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So you fucked up there didn't you Emp?

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I didn't mis count... mod did

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I'm never wrong!

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I changed my mind. I'm happy to lynch Taco.

My pool of can be lynched
Chilly
Carcalilly
Fykus
Taco
Possibly Trivium

This town is obviously good at scumming it up.

[Vedith]

What about dunkerdoodles?

Who?

[Vedith]

I changed my mind. I'm happy to lynch Taco.

Based on?

Him trying to avoid lynching Chilly.

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THIS PUTS HIM AT L-1. PLEASE, DO NOT HAMMER UNTIL HE'S HAD A FINAL WORD. ALSO, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE AN INTENT TO HAMMER, SAY SO.

I feel mocked

You should do!

[Vedith]

Wtf are you doing? He's my highest town read

Do you want to go on my lynch pool list too?

[Vedith]

You think I'm scum because IDM hammering Tchill, Boon and Vedith thinks I'm scum because I voted for Tchill, then backed out.

So it isn't normal for a person to be unsure?

You've already pre determined the scum team with no flip knowledge.

[Vedith]

Read his iso and tell me if he does NOT gutscum you

I have no opinion on them as of yet.

[Vedith]

Read his iso and tell me if he does NOT gutscum you

I have no opinion on them as of yet.

How? Can't you just FEEL the scum?

No, I can't feel that he is scum after 9 posts.

[Vedith]

You can't read in this game based on fucking logic. Ever wonder why scum win so many goddamn games? You have to read within your SOUL

How many games do scum win to town?

[Vedith]

Ok so are we going for today? Tchill or Mulch?

I didnt say i was willing. Like i said, either bussing or mislynching

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Idk but the last 10 normals have been scum...

Then it's your fault.

[Vedith]

Taco's thinks Mulch is scum but willing to vote with him to get the attention off him.

VOTE: Taco

[Vedith]

Anyone who votes Taco can get town credit.

Mulch - Please stop, you're posts actually piss me off.

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MOD Wait dude, did you seriously delete my real post.

No he never.

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Weird enough, I don't remember a game when I was scum and i said i am town...honestly. Klazam, have i said i was town and ended up scum before IRL? I Cant recall.

This is the worst defence.

[Vedith]

TwoFace (2): Vedith, Carcalilly

@TB

[Vedith]

@Chilly - Due to this, you need to ask for your name to be changed on the site. Otherwise it's harder work for TB.

[Vedith]

Ugh, youre making me feel extremely uncomfortable with my vote.

VOTE: Tchill

No.

[Vedith]

I'm not sure how you all give me so many scum reads day 1.

[Vedith]

I think the correct play is to just disregard taco and mulch here for today. take a look at Tchill, how do you feel about him?

Given how Taco now calls him scum when 2 hours ago he was confused, Chilly is town.

[Vedith]

I don't like the sound of this.

I want Tchill and Vedith's opinion.

Mulch is an idiot.

[Vedith]

If you disregard taco's play completely, and base your read solely on tchill's play?

Plausible scum.

[Vedith]

If you disregard taco's play completely, and base your read solely on tchill's play?

Given you're voting with your top scum read.
You can also join the idiots of the scum pool.

This town is pretty ridicules.

[Vedith]

I don't like the sound of this.

I want Tchill and Vedith's opinion.

Mulch is an idiot.

Anything else?

Yeah, I'm put Mulch on my foe section.
I refuse to engage with him.

[Vedith]

Wait, aren't I in that pool?
I feel insulted.

Good, you should feel insulted.

[Vedith]

Wait, aren't I in that pool?
I feel insulted.

Good, you should feel insulted.

I thought we were cool, man.

I'm sorry. I don't really mean it but I'm stepping away for a bit.
Lynch whoever you want.

[Vedith]

People I don't like for town

Chilly
Carcalilly
Fykus

People I do like
Boonskiies
Taco
Mulch

Rest are nobodies