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Post #687 (isolation #201) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:27 pm
Postby Sergtacos »
In post 685, Fykus wrote:Put your money where your mouth is taco
Actually I'm thinking now what if you're scum and trying to have me vote him? Sorry I got no read on you and you're on my scum list. (Don't FO, look at my previous posts, I mentioned why.) You need to post more.
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Post #735 (isolation #214) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:20 am
Postby Sergtacos »
In post 734, Klazam wrote:You have two times as much posts as the next most profilic poster and 1/3 of your posts have actual content. This isn't a 30 min game to be over and done with quickly, people have lives off-site, so chill a bit
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Post #736 (isolation #215) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:22 am
Postby Sergtacos »
In post 734, Klazam wrote:You have two times as much posts as the next most profilic poster and 1/3 of your posts have actual content. This isn't a 30 min game to be over and done with quickly, people have lives off-site, so chill a bit
Serious note
Still used to our IRL games. It'll take a bit for me to chill down.
I feel like this isn't something town would say.
Like, emphasising uncertainty, and uncertainty=town. I don't feel a need for real town to emphasize it.
I agree with this, and the way tacos worded it seems really weird too, the bolded part really sticks out to me and pings me.
First off Caraclilly, I'll PM you
Secondly, it's one of my stratgies to look for scum. I find strong towns while I find some scummy people. The reason why I also hunt strong towns is to narrow down the people who seem scummy to me so that I can be focused on them. I guess it helps my focus on them. Everyone else has their stratgies too.
Thirdly, I don't remember bolding my words. If I did I honestly didn't mean to.
But of course idk who's scum is yet because my reads include a lot of scummy people. When I get on my laptop I'll do more digging and stuff. Which is this Saturday/Sunday
D'ohhh alrighty!
If you're gonna read and catch up, I must apologize for the shitposts.
Though page 5 is golden.
Anyway... Lookin' forward to seeing your play. owo
I disgaree, page 11 is golden. Nearly pissed my pants.
Anyway, serious note, Vedith, TwoFace's post doesn't give that much content but when you catch up you'll completely understand why he's voting on Carcalilly. I too would vote her but I rather wait when I can use my laptop to dig on a lot of players and think through. I'm on my phone and it's hard to do so.
I also believe Tchill could be scum as well.
Shuffleplay replaced out and I was starting to think she is scum, so just letting you know, you're on my scums list until you can prove otherwise.
I'm aware that I'm tunneling but you're the only one with enough posts to make something solid out of so...
This is about you,
Sergtaco
~ Also threw in a little bit of advice in there because why not
Topic: Klazam Suspicion
23- RVS vote 40- Saying that they're lurking??? (IMO: He's mentioned it many times with Klazam, yet, he hasn't mentioned anyone else who's lurking.) 60- Possible explanation as to why he's getting at them. ("Fight me"?) 124- A vote and scum read without evidence. (Low-key red flag )
IMO: Could this be a scum bussing attempt? Are you trying to get at Klazam? Why be persistent on it, especially with that vote in their absence? They have
one RVS post
.
Topic: Scumhunting
53- Initial show of strong opinions on scumhunting 63- He doesn't "believe in scumhunting" (IMO: It's a reasonable belief. However... keep reading)
IMO: You can consider scumhunting as NAI, but please don't emphasize being against it, as it can be discouraging. We want people to scumhunt, town or scum, because it STILL reveals information. Also, maybe focus on the
results.
This post is a highlight of my results, talking and questioning you was the hunting, for example.
Topic: Lightheartedness
!Now, I don't have anything against lightheartedness, but I just wanted to take this into account.!
IMO: Your posts have been very lighthearted, and I honestly enjoy talking to you because of that. However, I'm not going to ignore possible alt motives.
-I know that posting lightness can help emotionally when you are feeling heavy or guilty. Do you anything to feel guilty about, Taco?
-Provides distraction, keeps the game from moving forward.
-Appeal to emotion. Act friendly and get on people's good side.
Topic: Self Defense
A quick thing, but when I question him, he tends to turn it back against me. 84- A vote after a clash of opinions. 127- I'm suspicious of someone, and I'm "just saying that to look town"? Don't turn to that, that's a very easy and typical defense.
Defend. Yourself.
VOTE: Sergtacos
For now.
Anyway... someone else please come it. I don't like tunnel battles.
VOTE: Carcalilly
If you're curious, is seems like people hated this post of mine a lot.
I kinda wanna make more posts like this, they're fun to make.
What kind of scum does this? I don't think this is scum's behavior honestly. Putting Carcalilly to null because I can't see how a scum would do this.
*Keep in mind, I don't do this in order and I may add to things in a mismatched way, so if anything feels oddly worded or semi repeated, that is why.
*My reads do tend to change after completely analyzing everything.
*Higher up you are in each tier, the townier I think they are.
*It's pretty early in game, so there's not a whole lot to go on, so this won't be as big as my usual color wheels.
Town
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Lean Town
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Null Town
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Null
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Null Scum
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Lean Scum
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Scum
Tchill13
- Yeah, I'm town reading Tchill. Like, he has more analysis than anyone in this game thus far. I like how he brought up wanting to wait for the other people he hasn't interacted with to catch up. He says he's a newer player, but I wouldn't be able to tell from his play thus far. He's coming across as incredibly transparent town to me (if he's scum, he's doing that much better. Strongest town read I got.
TwoFace
- lel. 2f is town. If he's not, I feel like I'll be able to sort him out later.
Klazam
- OO. I actually like Klazam a lot, specifically with his interactions with TwoFace. I liked how he just didn't want to deal with Taco either. I feel like scumKla would go along with it more and potentially get a TvT read out of it. I'm going to lean town here. I understand how my reasons can be criticized with "He could be scum doing all that.", but I am town reading the slot.
Sergtacos
- So he's the most active this game, and definitely has the biggest presence. He has a lot of NAI posts, but there are some townie like posts in there. I feel like his posting comes from anxious town trying to figure the game out. He's trying out different things, and I don't think he has solidified his reads yet, it's day 1, they don't have to be, and I feel he's pretty genuine. I'm going to lean town here. It's just too early, and too many NAI posts to make me want to full on town read.
Trivium
- Initially I saw his 2F push as forced, but I understand why people push 2F. I thought I was going to end up scum reading him after reading through the rest, but I generally liked his other stuff. I liked his 761. I'll null town here.
shuffleplay
(now Vedith)
- Eh, shuffle was solid. Not much, but she posted some bricks (not quite walls, but solid amount of content per post), and I feel like she was town trying to be active in the game. I'll null town. Vedith will be active, so I'm not worried about lack of content.
Fykus
- Fykus seems really genuine with the little amount of posts he has, but there's really not that much to go off of. I'll null town this slot for now.
Mulch
- Man...mulch could go either way. Like I'm 50/50. His carefree-okaywitheverythingexceptthethingshe'sexplicitlynot-yes man demeanor is hard for me to accept whatever read I pick off. I'll probably need a flip to sort this slot.
Carcalilly
- Okay, yeah. I definitely see why this slot is being scum read. I don't feel like stating more; 2f already did. I can't tell if I see her as scum or town feeling some pressure, and trying to get out of it without drawing more people to her. I'll null scum.
Dunkerdoodles
- Most of the posts were on Taco, and I don't really like the 2F/Mulch scum read in addition to Taco. Not a whole lot to go off of, and if you're town, you're gonna have to show me, but I get big gut scum vibes from here. I'll lean scum.
Empiricus
- Okay, so you all are going to hate this as a reasoning, but his first post in the game screams scum to me. Like, screams. Like, my ex girlfriend just broke into my house at night, started shrieking, ate my pillow, punched my framed picture of ScarJo, and then stabbed me in the leg with a fork at 2:37 am. It just came off to me as "Oh, hmm, I need to fabricate a post somewhere. This is an obvious joke! This is funny AND safe! I would say this even if I were town...yeah." Scum. This piled onto the fact he is pushing Serg/2F as scum seems like he's not scum hunting, and is just going for people he thinks a wagon could be built upon without him making a case. (he does kind of make cases, but meh.
Branson
- He looks like he's fabricating the hell out his reads. Him pushing Carca looks fake as hell. Like, I agree that Carca seemed scummy, but I just get the feeling Branson saw that and ran with it, ya feel? When I'm scum, I can generally see when town is looking super scummy, and I feel that's what Branson did. I'm solidly scum reading this slot. His read list I felt that all his town reads were him trying to gain rapport and potentially turn into town leader and get them to follow him. If someone makes a case that isn't direct crap, i feel like he'd start pushing down a town read of his. This guy is going for a mislynch, and makes me kind of want to move Carca up a little. Scum.
You want it...you need it...your stalker ex will hate it. The candy dog food flavored pillow, for when she eats your pillow in a crazed outburst...all this can be yours, if you just...
VOTE: Branson
I have to stop spamming because TB said so otherwise my ass is getting replaced. And I know for sure Klazam wouldn't be pleased with my goofy little butt if I get replaced xD
Anyway, I love your post, filled with information, colors, beauty and my favorite part... HUMOR. God I love me some humor.
Ok so your reads, I think Emp voted klazam because of RVS HOWEVER you explained his behavior well and I didnt see that. Well I blame phone tho.
But Emp has been scum in our first game (this as our second) the odds of him being scum again is low but that doesn't mean anything I'm aware but just wow, if Emp is scum, I'm guessing this quote applies, "you don't choose the scum life, the scum life chooses you"
(I play Mafia IRL and my friend got mafia 5 times in a row, no lie.)
Tchill may have more analysis but there was a post that alerted me hes scum. I'll repost it tomorrow or Sunday. I want to see your opinion about that post.
In post 655, Sergtacos wrote:You seem whiny when I put you back to idk scum instead of leaving you in town.
Want that read from me, then prove it
I'm not necessarily interested in your read on me itself. Just pointing out the fact that you keep changing it.
UNVOTE:
The tacos wagon is dying it seems. I'll reread a bit and see who seems scummiest at the moment
Is this scummy? Because it is a bit to me. My wagon may be dying but if you strongly believe I'm scum you wouldn't stop voting for me but that is if you're town tho. You unvoted me because my wagon is dying? Dude that is a big scum alert.
This could be the one tacos is wanting you to see? He votes me in his next post.
In post 16, TwoFace wrote:I am not going to continue this conversation after this post.
I literally just explained why it was stupid to think it was weird. and because of emp's question I explained why somebody in a different time zone shouldn't think it was weird. there is literally no logical explanation for anyone to think my opening post is weird, yet you have said you found it weird. So since you have no logical reason for thinking that, you get a strike against you.
there is nothing weird about saying good morning in the morning. do you go to work/school/whatever and think people are weird for saying that? no probably not so there is no reason to think it is weird here.
VOTE: TwoFace For being weird.
Bad. No need to explain if your going to give a shitty explanation anyway. Scum contantly feel the need to explain unless they can meta explain it.
I'm aware that I'm tunneling but you're the only one with enough posts to make something solid out of so...
This is about you,
Sergtaco
~ Also threw in a little bit of advice in there because why not
Topic: Klazam Suspicion
23- RVS vote 40- Saying that they're lurking??? (IMO: He's mentioned it many times with Klazam, yet, he hasn't mentioned anyone else who's lurking.) 60- Possible explanation as to why he's getting at them. ("Fight me"?) 124- A vote and scum read without evidence. (Low-key red flag )
IMO: Could this be a scum bussing attempt? Are you trying to get at Klazam? Why be persistent on it, especially with that vote in their absence? They have
one RVS post
.
Topic: Scumhunting
53- Initial show of strong opinions on scumhunting 63- He doesn't "believe in scumhunting" (IMO: It's a reasonable belief. However... keep reading)
IMO: You can consider scumhunting as NAI, but please don't emphasize being against it, as it can be discouraging. We want people to scumhunt, town or scum, because it STILL reveals information. Also, maybe focus on the
results.
This post is a highlight of my results, talking and questioning you was the hunting, for example.
Topic: Lightheartedness
!Now, I don't have anything against lightheartedness, but I just wanted to take this into account.!
IMO: Your posts have been very lighthearted, and I honestly enjoy talking to you because of that. However, I'm not going to ignore possible alt motives.
-I know that posting lightness can help emotionally when you are feeling heavy or guilty. Do you anything to feel guilty about, Taco?
-Provides distraction, keeps the game from moving forward.
-Appeal to emotion. Act friendly and get on people's good side.
Topic: Self Defense
A quick thing, but when I question him, he tends to turn it back against me. 84- A vote after a clash of opinions. 127- I'm suspicious of someone, and I'm "just saying that to look town"? Don't turn to that, that's a very easy and typical defense.
Defend. Yourself.
VOTE: Sergtacos
For now.
Anyway... someone else please come it. I don't like tunnel battles.
What the actual fuck is this? Is this the worst possible attempt at scumreading someone I have ever seen in my life?
That's not nice, she was trying.
From the posts you made and the effort you had about reading really makes me believe you're scum.
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Post #896 (isolation #228) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:15 pm
Postby Sergtacos »
I can't possibly see mulch and carcalilly be scums together, but if they are, that's amazing bussing tbh.
In between null and lean scjm
Branson
Lean scum
Carcalilly
Vedith
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Post #905 (isolation #229) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:29 pm
Postby Sergtacos »
In post 902, Carcalilly wrote:Dude,, since we can't shitpost anymore, let's shitcontentpost??
I remember when everyone did long isos, long cases, etc. etc.
So I'm honestly so thrown off rn
I feel like staying up and playing y'all got me excited
That's what I've been doing xD I can't NOT shit post ugh. Shit posts are so amazing imo. Makes the game more fun and funny.
Anyway to your previous post you're right. Ugh this game is giving me a headache honestly. So many possible scums for different reasons, youre making me want to put you to null because of that previous post.
I so think the two scums are Tchill and Mulch, what's your opinion?
I got no patience. My mind and play style needs to adjust for this game. IRL, I would see reactions fast and see how other people jump or react then I would withdraw my vote.
This mafia (in general about this site) takes time.
So ok, I believe tchill and Mulch are scums which they're following Branson.
I'll get on the Branson wagon BUT
I would like Trivium and doodle to convince me what they think of Tchill and Mulch.
I got no patience. My mind and play style needs to adjust for this game. IRL, I would see reactions fast and see how other people jump or react then I would withdraw my vote.
This mafia (in general about this site) takes time.
So ok, I believe tchill and Mulch are scums which they're following Branson.
I'll get on the Branson wagon BUT
I would like Trivium and doodle to convince me what they think of Tchill and Mulch.
In post 895, Carcalilly wrote:416 and 417: You low-key blamed me for trying to figure out the RVS interaction... and bring it more into the real game. I asked if it was related to the real game/if it was scummy etc.
Then,
you
go and question a oneliner.
422: This doesn't look too good to me. All the "would" and "why" swip swap could be a way for you to twist my intentions. I literally just said "why".
We already went over this. The issue I was pointing out in 417 was specifically your tone shift, and what I said in 416 details pretty clearly why that comparison isn't applicable. I asked what Sergtacos' post was there for since I didn't understand why he posted that when he did. It was a single, simple question with an explanation for why I wanted it answered. You stretched it out to half a dozen questions.
423: That is an extremely easy off the hook for an extremely scummy post. Are you just gonna like, walk past it and say, meh, looks normal cuz Tacobutt??
I agree that the post he made is scummy in a vacuum. The problem is, it fits the way he had been playing up to that point. Playstyle isn't scummy.
521: New points were brought up. You didn't adress them, you just turned back, like "already taken care of"
As far as I know, everything Trivium had brought up there, I had already addressed in that day's catchup before reaching that post. Is there anything that I didn't?
767: Empiri made it clear that it was weighing pros and
cons
. Brandson still says it as "no downsides".
Did... you read my post and the one I was referring to?
769 and 881: My my, things change don't they? It's easy jump on mulchs first posts, though.
I was scumreading Mulch for using the fact that he was being completely useless as a shield against being lynched. The read completely changed when he both fixed the problem and started making better posts.
Out of all the things the mulch line is what bothers me BECAUSE he still isnt making better posts. I'm unstatsified with Mulch, which therefore I think you two could be scum together.
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Post #927 (isolation #234) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:45 pm
Postby Sergtacos »
In post 922, Tchill13 wrote:Sergtacos you specifically ask for trivium and boonskies to convince you what they think of me and mulch. Why do you ask for boonskies help? Is it only because he town reads me? I ask this because it doesn't seem like trivium town reads me. I'm wondering what the common ground between the two are for you.
I'm just curious what they think of you because my scum read on you could be weak. Like I mentioned before, I like to hunt towns as well so I know who is who basically. Helps me narrow down things. I just wanted to weigh the scum reads and town reads and see which fits you.
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Post #928 (isolation #235) » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:25 am
Postby Sergtacos »
Getting on plane yay (I seriously have flight issues, scared of heights and almost every time I get on I think I'm gonna die lol)
Since I'm unsure about Branson and there's a possibility I could not respond, I'm unvoting. Tonight ladies and gentlemen is when I'll do a lot of digging! Woohoo, but that's if the plane doesn't crash.
UNVOTE:
I think Klazam could be town. I think if he was scum he would put in more effort in this then again I could be wrong since he knows I can read him pretty well but I gotta admit my scum radar is eh right now.
I think Carcalilly is town? I have strong feelings that Mulch is scum. Anyone want to object?
Mulch is town because of his case against carcalilly which I strongly agree with. Carcalilly is the only scum case that makes sense to me at this point. There's a lot of fluff with carcalilly, no real direction to her posts.
Know what, thats it this is pinging me hard. VOTE: Tchill
Oh he's town because of his case against carcalilly? A lot of people are making cases against her and you happen to read him as town because of that? If I remember correctly I was the first person to make the case and yet you sucm read me. I find it odd how you would town read mulch especially when he didn't read up until now but only up to page 9? You two are scums, period.
Mulch is town because of his case against carcalilly which I strongly agree with. Carcalilly is the only scum case that makes sense to me at this point. There's a lot of fluff with carcalilly, no real direction to her posts.
Know what, thats it this is pinging me hard. VOTE: Tchill
Oh he's town because of his case against carcalilly? A lot of people are making cases against her and you happen to read him as town because of that? If I remember correctly I was the first person to make the case and yet you sucm read me. I find it odd how you would town read mulch especially when he didn't read up until now but only up to page 9? You two are scums, period.
many people are reportedly town reading people for their case on me
Which is what I find scummy. Because that doesn't make a person automatic town just by reading you scum.
In post 1025, Boonskiies wrote:@Vedith - I don't see Emp as an easy vote for people. For some reason, many are town reading him. I'm also wondering: why did this happen? ^ especially considering you stated Tchill's only thing on Emp was a town read statement.
Who town reads Emp?
Literally everyone basically was town reading Emp. I spent like an hour and a half looking through everyone's ISO's when I did my color wheel, so I saw everyone. Not exactly sure who stated the town reads, but I definitely saw multiple people town reading Emp, and basically nobody scum reading Emp.
In post 149, Klazam wrote:Tbh I like this taco play a lot- can confirm I know him irl and what he's doing I see as town yeah. Could be maniuplating but nah I don't think so at the moment. I did see someone that pinged me earlier on my skim but I cant be fucked to go back and look at the moment.
See you all wednesday
mod, noted. I will adjust. Also wtf there's a unvote tag now-
what is it
In post 208, Klazam wrote:okay yeah. VOTE: Sergtacos Youre being OVERLY aware of your selfmeta and manipulating your play to fit within that meta. Die. Im sorry bro, i didnt want to hang you on D1 but there it is.
In post 659, Klazam wrote:I'm gonna reread again and catch up later tonight. Serg is town, I'm fairly confident on that at this moment.
Ok, so basically if you all take a look at klazam's ISO you'll see 0 actual scumhunting in there. Yeah you can turn that back around on me and say the same thing, but hes got 42 posts in the game already - surely you'd think there'd be some scum hunting interspersed in there. Another thing I noticed is his constant flip flop reads on taco. In the beginning of the game he reads taco as town blah blah blah but as the game goes on (and people started scum reading taco for all of his spam) he changes his reads to fit with everyone else - saying that taco is suddenly scum. Once the wagon on taco fell apart though you can see that he goes back to a strong town read on him again.
Another thing (probably NAI) is the lack of quoting. Like reading through the ISO is a pain in the ass because you don't know what hes responding to so to get a proper feel of it you have to re-read those sections of the game. Seems like this is a good strategy for scum to adopt, but maybe this is just his playstyle, can anyone vouch for that?
VOTE: klazam
I'm confident to put my vote here for the moment.
He was dealing with my ass so I wouldn't be surprised he would have to think and over think and such. It's me. We know each other IRL. I'm a confusing person honestly. Let him post more then we can see where he leads. Don't think he's scum at the moment.
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Post #1149 (isolation #250) » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:38 pm
Postby Sergtacos »
In post 1148, Tchill13 wrote:While I did have you as a top town read I can't justify it knowing you're driving a wagon against town. I've given my reads though if I get hammered so I hope that helps. You will get a lot of information. I'm not gonna argue against my lynch if it guarantees a scum lynch soon though.