Mini Normal 1929 - Game Over

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Vedith
you know what you did

VOTE: vedith

WAGON AHOY

[Carcalilly]

You unvote me before I day vig you!

Can we not do this again

[Carcalilly]

it exists because the sun does not rise immediately, instead there is a period where it is only partially over an area which is usually 5am-8am depending on the season

VOTE: mariomaniac
This pings me

[Carcalilly]

Spoiler: shitpost

Hey guys

What's shaking?

[Carcalilly]

Scorpius is scum.

VOTE: Scorpius
Anyone against this lynch is their buddy.

OK
VOTE: scor

[Carcalilly]

lynch scor then vig awesome

[Carcalilly]

Carca, how many scum do you think they have?
Think they have any particular roles?

Uhhh I'm going to take a lucky guess and say 3.
I think maybe one of them would have a role. It seems standard.

[Carcalilly]

Carca, did you roll scum again?

no why?

What did YOU roll?

[Carcalilly]

^aww that's sweet

Pedit; WHY WOULD YOU NINJA ME WITH A VOTE

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Carcalilly
Wow, that was easy.

yeah but no not this time
typical mistake though so I won't hold it against you

[Carcalilly]

I am this close to OMGUSing you rn

[Carcalilly]

DO IT!

UNVOTE:

*drumroll*

VOTE: MARIOMANIAC4

BOOM SHAKALAKA

[Carcalilly]

Anyone up for a game of Connect 4?

ok
Whoever looses is scum?

[Carcalilly]

White!

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Or... Bold lol

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Carcalilly

It's a me VOTE: Mario

[Carcalilly]

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[Carcalilly]

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[Carcalilly]

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[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Carcalilly
I have 1 name so far I'm thinking is scum with you, can you guess that name?

Vedith, why are you bussing me???
VOTE: Vedith

[Carcalilly]

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[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Carcalilly
I have 1 name so far I'm thinking is scum with you, can you guess that name?

Vedith, why are you bussing me???
VOTE: Vedith

Answer my question!

Uhhhh I am Innocent?

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Carcalilly
I have 1 name so far I'm thinking is scum with you, can you guess that name?

Vedith, why are you bussing me???
VOTE: Vedith

Answer my question!

Uhhhh I am Innocent?

Answer my question!

Answer

[Carcalilly]

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[Carcalilly]

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[Carcalilly]

It's easy on mobile..............
VOTE: LUV

[Carcalilly]

Carca is scum.
She's a book, and I'm reading it.

You don't know me as much as I thought you did

[Carcalilly]

Last time I saw two players play connect four in a game, one of them was scum. Law of small numbers anybody?

Wait that's actually a thing people do?

I see LUV play games a lot so

[Carcalilly]

They're fun.

It's funny seeing how people react to that stuff too.

Ikr

Also if you're still giving up you're

probscum

[Carcalilly]

How is all this random talk relevant to the game?

It ain't

But I still made a deal
VOTE: LUV

[Carcalilly]

But that's my colour...

vote: modkill vedith

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: carcalilly

If i could vote luv at the same time I would. Carcalilly comes first alphabetically though.

;(

Is connect four a scumtell now?

[Carcalilly]

res

VOTE: Io

Take that!
I've now invalidated whatever this vote count is going to be.

VOTE: io

Self voting is bad

[Carcalilly]

res

VOTE: Io

Take that!
I've now invalidated whatever this vote count is going to be.

VOTE: io

Self voting is bad

I'll vote whoever I want to vote.
Maybe I didn't want to live.

That's depressing man...

[Carcalilly]

Carca vote Chilly

ok
VOTE: tchill

[Carcalilly]

Carcalilly, you are moving around your votes a bit too much. Also, Vedith and Carcalilly, you are spamming a lot.

1. It's still fresh in the gamestart so that's normal
2. You're gonna have to get used to that lol

[Carcalilly]

Carca, how many scum do you think they have?
Think they have any particular roles?

Uhhh I'm going to take a lucky guess and say 3.

we could always talk about how this is trying too hard to look uninformed

Uhhhhhh I'm going to take a lucky guess and saaaaaayyyyyy no

[Carcalilly]

Usually getting right into the game and moving it forward looks townie to me but something about the way alban does it is just scummy

[Carcalilly]

have you ever seen a mini normal with anything other than 3 scum

y

/n

[Carcalilly]

Usually getting right into the game and moving it forward looks townie to me but something about the way alban does it is just scummy

I will get used to your spamming and you get used to my scumminess.

Deal

[Carcalilly]

I have a limited amount of experience with a handful of these slots but not enough to get a rhythm for their game play as either alignment.

This.

Then this game will be a bonding experience
Everyone come in close so we can choose who to rope today <3

[Carcalilly]

UNVOTE:

I remember playing with Io. She will give long winding explanations about game mechanics and why and who is scum. I believe (but not sure) that she is logical, terse and concise when town.

Well thank you for calling me logical, but I don't really know if I would fall myself concise, I will make large posts if I need to get a point across.
Also I think the game mechanic talk was unique to that game if I recall because people weren't quite understanding them.

Frankly, I'm not really sure what the point in going over how people typically play helps. Like for example, I try to keep consistent play across whatever alignment I am and I'm pretty sure most people do that as to avoid scum slipping every time they are scum due to their meta.
Plus, the rules forbid Trust Tells and going over people's meta as town vs scum seems to be encroaching on breaking that rule.
Reguardless I've only played a full game with Alban, and maybe LUV and I am Innocent but I don't remember those games. Alban I remember does this kind of thing in all games if not most that I've played with him where he wants to talk about people's behavior.

Town

[Carcalilly]

the only guy i have more than like 1 game with is vedith
and i have no idea how to meta any of you

This is my first game.

Caught red handed VOTE: Mario

[Carcalilly]

I'm going to keep my vote here until Mario proves themselves

[Carcalilly]

UNVOTE:

I remember playing with Io. She will give long winding explanations about game mechanics and why and who is scum. I believe (but not sure) that she is logical, terse and concise when town.

Well thank you for calling me logical, but I don't really know if I would fall myself concise, I will make large posts if I need to get a point across.
Also I think the game mechanic talk was unique to that game if I recall because people weren't quite understanding them.

Frankly, I'm not really sure what the point in going over how people typically play helps. Like for example, I try to keep consistent play across whatever alignment I am and I'm pretty sure most people do that as to avoid scum slipping every time they are scum due to their meta.
Plus, the rules forbid Trust Tells and going over people's meta as town vs scum seems to be encroaching on breaking that rule.
Reguardless I've only played a full game with Alban, and maybe LUV and I am Innocent but I don't remember those games. Alban I remember does this kind of thing in all games if not most that I've played with him where he wants to talk about people's behavior.

Town

Reasons?

To me they seem honest and open.

[Carcalilly]

I like alban so far, for what it's worth. What about him did you think was scummy, Carcalilly?

Hey IAI, which do you think is more likely to be scum, LUV or Carcalilly?

Carcalilly, you are moving around your votes a bit too much. Also, Vedith and Carcalilly, you are spamming a lot.

Awesomeusername, your exchange with Vedith and Mario in 33 and 73 - weird. You want logic in Vedith's fooling around post in the dawn phase?

I am innocent, why are you interested in Connect 4 and not in Mafia?

How is all this random talk relevant to the game?

What game related content do you think we should be talking about instead?

Have you played with any of the players and how do the play generally? We can start there.

Steel & Tchill, get in the game.

This post mainly.
As scum, I've been caught by the tryhard tell, and I can kind of sense the difference between townie and scummy tryhard.
He kind of mentions totally NAI and not-so analysisy stuff. (Get in the game, spamming)
Could be a way to have a look of more content, and in turn, LAMIST.
IDK, a focus is better too. Quality over quantity.

[Carcalilly]

You're asking a player if they will votepark which is like the weirdest and least impactful question ever. I have absolutely no actual good reads at the moment so you get a vote. Enjoy.

I'm pretty sure that question was asked to counter the fact that they pointed me out for CHANGING my vote too much

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: MarioManiac4

how could you

now we're talking

[Carcalilly]

You're asking a player if they will votepark which is like the weirdest and least impactful question ever. I have absolutely no actual good reads at the moment so you get a vote. Enjoy.

I'm pretty sure that question was asked to counter the fact that they pointed me out for CHANGING my vote too much

Can we avoid answering for others? It's better to have people answering on their own. You never know what slips out.

Im going to comment on whatever I wanna comment on

[Carcalilly]

That self meta tho

[Carcalilly]

I am

town

That was self meta from alban tho

[Carcalilly]

selfmeta is yucky
It's worse than meta for all the obvious reasons

[Carcalilly]

just wanna let you all know about my fos on alban that may grow along the course of this game

[Carcalilly]

That self meta tho

You know, while I don't really like it when people self meta what's the point of this?
I don't really see it as a scum tell which is what I think you are implying because I know there are people out their who genuinely believe that giving self meta can clear them as town.

I'd vote him if I thought it was a that dire of a scumtell
I'm just stating the obvious

[Carcalilly]

Carca, you Scum?

no

[Carcalilly]

I have some townreads at least.

VOTE: Lil uzi vert

This is fluffing hard.

LUV usually fluffs a lot.

[Carcalilly]

we could get some votes flowing on one player???? steel????

Wait, you haven't yet commented on me since I've arrived and you want more votes?

^^^^^^^

also why vote for me :C

[Carcalilly]

When I'm scum I usually just focus on when someone mentions me or my scumpartner, and not care about the rest of the game. ^

[Carcalilly]

I guess we can talk about random things.

I think vedith is okay here, interactions with carcalilly are probably him trying to sort her a bit and not scum flip flopping it for no reason.

Why can't I be scum going for town cred, or trying to pocket Carca?

Scum generally make more hypothetical "if I was scum" cases than town.

[Carcalilly]

The Mario vote isn't entirely a joke

[Carcalilly]

Scum generally make more hypothetical "if I was scum" cases than town.

That's because I'm scum.

ok
VOTE: vedith

pedit:

it's OK, you can hold my hand when you take the rope if you want <3

[Carcalilly]

Now that's getting good.
I'm a Sameday Sensor. So I've messaged Ircher and now I'll know how many scum are in Cara, Chilly and Alban.
If 2 of you fuckers are on me, I'm going to piss myself laughing, or PMSL as the kids say.

Tchill u should sheep me right now

[Carcalilly]

Tchill u should sheep me right now

Okay so Ircher has replied.
I'll let you guess how many out of 0-3.

0

[Carcalilly]

No, Mario!

This is for Carca and Chilly because I'm honestly surprised.

GASP NO I KNOW IT
ITS 1

[Carcalilly]

aww I was right the first time
I thought Alban was scum :/

PEdit:Because I was confident that the scumteam was vedith-mario-alban but that confidence was shattered so idk

[Carcalilly]

But my role pm says Carcalilly is scum!

Don't make me suicide bomber you!

[Carcalilly]

Vedith is known for fakeclaiming though.

Desperado: Carcalilly

You can't get me if I get you first!

daykill: Mario

You're coming down with me!

[Carcalilly]

Chilly, don't speak to Steel he's scum!

Steel is

obvtown

[Carcalilly]

Or rather I'm not quite that sure about tchill town, I might be a little biased for his whiteknighting me.

White knighting? I simply said there wasn't enough content from you. You're not worth defending I just figured your play could lead to an easy mislynch.

White knighting is an exaggeration but I felt

personally compelled

to say the expression.

...

knighting

[Carcalilly]

I think Mario might be town.

Mario is

confscum

[Carcalilly]

Well this took an odd turn.

I am thoroughly enjoying this game.

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Vedith
Policy lynch.

You can't do that.

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Vedith
Policy lynch.

Now I'm full of Gloom

LYNCH THIS IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT WAIT FOR CLAIM. I REPEAT. DO NOT WAIT FOR CLAIM.

But my reads will evolve and Bellossom into something great.

ok stop

[Carcalilly]

I like the activity but this doesn't really help.

be careful what you wish for cuz you just might get it

[Carcalilly]

The Mario vote isn't entirely a joke

What is your mario read? I've only really seen you mention his pre-rvs post pinged you.

Leaning scum.
156 173 187 284

[Carcalilly]

Seems to me there's a lot of fluff coming from carcalilly, luv and Mario.

Because you guys got me giddy

[Carcalilly]

We can lynch anyone?
Also consistency is not town-indicative and Carca isn't even voting me

VOTE: Mario
Sorry bb the opportunity vedith gave was just too good.

[Carcalilly]

if you scumread me for posting memes on page 15 i may as well have a hated modifier in all games with you
also i don't really get your scumreads on me
like carca's links were
1. me scumreading her momentarily because i forgot it was 11p and saying that she thought it would be 3 scum as a lucky guess in a 13p sounds super fake
2. her saying she was gonna keep her vote on me until i proved myself which isn't a point at all
3. me misinterpreting a quote while trying to get reads
4. her applying her scum ideology onto me

none of that is really anything i can engage with or argue against

It's not the particular post, it's the conversation surrounding them.

1. The thing that got me there mainly was the unvote. It's kinda like wow you goofed right there OK, but why unvote? Did you like suddenly not sr me anymore? You did say momentarily.
Also you voted for me before you brought that up, so I assume it may be for a different reason.

2. It's not a part of a case, it's mainly explaining to Steel what I was doing lol.

3. But the way you RESPONDED. OK, I can see that you misinterpreted it, but it's kinda dismissive to just say I "don't have room for complaining bc I'm voting you". Like that wasn't helpful.
Also, you just dropped the subject fast and even switched your vote.

Tbh it's like whenever you're caught doing a goof you run the opposite direction as fast as you can.

4. He's right lol.

[Carcalilly]

I mean not helpful like, it was unhelpful. It confused me a bit.
And I'm doing it because you're a fun push. I'm getting more of a scum vibe from you than anything else right now but I'm not entirely sure.
But you dropped it to jump on Steel's no-lynch vote instead? Did you think that was more helpful and a good read? (because personally I didn't)

[Carcalilly]

V/LA Until the 25th. Could still possibly post, but very busy.

[Carcalilly]

That's vedith for you

[Carcalilly]

But... I like vedith.

[Carcalilly]

Wait why is there a case against me?

[Carcalilly]

Like I was just screwing around with Mario and Vedith

[Carcalilly]

Since when?

[Carcalilly]

self

Quick question - is Self-meta a scumtell to you?

I can see scum using it more than town.

[Carcalilly]

or right now I don't have the time to read and comment on enough of the thread ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

if you really want to wagon and lynch me please just give me until after the 25th please so I can properly react

[Carcalilly]

because a lynch before I can do anything would really suck

Pedit
I feel betrayed

[Carcalilly]

out of all the times I could be mislynched

[Carcalilly]

what the fuck

you guys can't read joke posts

it's obviously a fake claim, that's what vedith does

[Carcalilly]

fine I'll stop fucking around

VOTE: alban

[Carcalilly]

Day 1 clear 3 townies?
Even if you didn't know vedith the claim is so ridiculous that nobody who knows how to play this game should consider legitimately believing it for a second

[Carcalilly]

carcalilly to clarify you are saying your push on me was fucking around? as in, not real?

I was pushing you to get reactions and my honest read on you is a scumlean.

[Carcalilly]

THEN WHY DO U THINK IM SCUM

[Carcalilly]

I know.
As I said I do not have time at this moment to get off that meta. I'm on V/LA because I'm out of state and busy, please chill out.
This is why I asked if you really wanted to lynch me, decide after I get back and can put more effort into things. Clearly, if I'm going to post anything now, I should adress questions geared towards myself.

I townread Vedith actually, this doesn't feel like his scum game from what I know.

@mario uh no, those are actual posts that pinged me and lead me to have a weak scumlean on you.

[Carcalilly]

That's not a given because you haven't proved it.


That's it. I'm fucking leaving. I'll be back in 5 or so hours.
I'm done with this shit of you two not listening to what I say and taking everything I say out of context.

Me flipping town would prove it. I can read Carca better than anyone here we are best friends IRL.

I love you and everything vedith but this is a lie lol

[Carcalilly]

I love you and everything vedith but this is a lie lol

</3
It's not even worth living anymore if you think this!

Shhh we can talk this over in PMs or over a cup of coffee later <33

But, this fakeclaim is more intricate that your other fakeclaims. Why'd you feel the need to do such a thing?

[Carcalilly]

Guys that was my first game after a year long hiatus

[Carcalilly]

You guys don't know my town game yet :/

[Carcalilly]

You guys don't know my town game yet :/

Why are you not voting Vedith?

I'm not?
VOTE: vedith

[Carcalilly]

My read has changed since then :/

[Carcalilly]

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I am willing to sheep the fuck outta these to my death

[Carcalilly]

ok lol sorry about that

[Carcalilly]

Cuz I townread them more than I townread you

[Carcalilly]

That's what I mean. -_-

[Carcalilly]

That's what I mean. -_-

Can you explain what you mean, because it isn't clear.
You scum read me because 2 of your town reads scum read me?

Why did you not scum read me when they were originally scum reading me, and instead you town read me?

"I townread them more than I townread you" kind of a salty way to say I townread them a lot. It wasn't supposed to apply that I townread you lol apologies.

Because of how they cased you.
I didn't notice how you were acting, but when they spelled it out, it looks just like awkward vedith scum. You told me yourself about how uneasy you are when you're scum.

[Carcalilly]

Sorry but past experience says

-overconfidence is generally a scumtell for him
-dismissing others tends to show some of that overconfidence ^
-when he actually has a PR he doesn't crumb it (so now he's either a VT or scum)

[Carcalilly]

Uneasy -> trying to counter that -> trying to look confident -> overconfident

I can practically smell it on you, vedith

[Carcalilly]

MULCH ya did great!