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See, I'm indifferent on this post, because I don't like the statement on Perfect, but I like the statement on Paul. It's page 6. Why is Perfect an exception for needing more info and not anyone else, really?In post 129, Sunlit Diamond wrote:There's a difference between optimal rb strategy and optimal town strategy...it's all clearly outlined on page 252412 of the ultimate mafia tactics book that only the super secret awesome people get. (I stole my copy)
I need more info on Perfect before I vote for him.
I'm also interested in Paul. He has yet to express a unique opinion, only spammed it up and agreed with others.-
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I'll keep that in mind. For now, I'm still interested in pressuring the slot.In post 132, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
I scumread him every game for this and he turns out townIn post 130, Flavor Leaf wrote:So I caught up and Paul stands out as scum to me a lot. Feels like he's just trying to sheep Rb, who's seeming to be stepping up as the town leader like role, and then he's just joking around everywhere. To be fair, we're page 6, but that's where I'm at right now.
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In post 133, Sunlit Diamond wrote:Because he made a post that I find very strange and I want more context. Also because I have a strong aversion to voting for someone just because someone else told me to.
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yeah, you and I are buddies. Don't need to be shouting it out to the thread.In post 137, rb wrote:
oh noIn post 131, Flavor Leaf wrote:
See, I'm indifferent on this post, because I don't like the statement on Perfect, but I like the statement on Paul. It's page 6. Why is Perfect an exception for needing more info and not anyone else, really?In post 129, Sunlit Diamond wrote:There's a difference between optimal rb strategy and optimal town strategy...it's all clearly outlined on page 252412 of the ultimate mafia tactics book that only the super secret awesome people get. (I stole my copy)
I need more info on Perfect before I vote for him.
I'm also interested in Paul. He has yet to express a unique opinion, only spammed it up and agreed with others.
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am I scum with TB or is that read gone?In post 145, rb wrote:everyone sheep me and be rewarded with euphoric feeling of day1 scum flip-
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Forgot about this game. Oops.
Eddie cane is likely town. I feel like he's the only reason I wasn't lynched, and I feel like it didn't make sense as a scum move.
rb's probably town. He seems to have this test everything and everywhere, and then uses interactions within those to scumhunt. He changes his mind a good amount when new stuff comes up, which I see as generally town like or incredibly bold scum, which I feel like he'd be a strong enough player to make bold choices as scum without having them be actually dangerous. Does that make sense?
I actually like Wavemode...so because of that I actually don't like Ausuka very much. This most recent thing of Wavemode calling her newb scum kind of made me feel like she was scum who doesn't think she is newbscum. I'm not saying she is newbscum or anything, but that's what I feel that interaction came out to be like, if that makes sense.-
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That post pertains to me a lot it seems so I guess I'll dissect and comment.
Because I fucked around with Rb.In post 498, skitter30 wrote:Rb starts (138) it by declaring FL to be scum. However, he declared like four other people to be scum within the first few pages, so I'm not sure why this push gained more traction?
Because I was fucking around with Rb. I've unvoted in my last post. Yeah, my wagon came out of nowhere and dissipated just as fast, so I HIGHLY doubt there isn't scum on it. The first three on the wagon I'd probably fight for as town.FL then votes for himself (140). Uh, why exactly? It's anti-town to vote for yourself. I know it's a thing that people do, but I never really understood why. You were on your own wagon when it got to L-1 ffs. If you're scum, thanks for helping us almost-lynch you? And if you're town, what the heck are you doing being the second vote on your own L-1 wagon? I don't really see any motivation for him doing this as either alignment. And I just checked the latest vote count . . . and he's still voting for himself. It looks like he hasn't checked the thread since then, tbh. Please unvote. And your thoughts on your wagon would be appreciated.
On Thor, I dislike early games, so I kind of understand that. That being said, it's NAI for me. Thor's not a town read.I dislike Thor's vote (182). He says he wants to lynch FL in order to give us stuff to analyze. It seems like he's willing to vote FL regardless of his alignment in order to generate those reactions. Why not vote for someone you think is actually scummy instead of voting for the sake of having a speedlynch?
Ausuka's vote (184). Seems like she's voting here because there happens to be a wagon there. She did say she had planned to vote earlier (between Eddie and Thor), though, and I agree that the self-vote was awkward and that FL's major contributions (130, 131, 151) are kinda flat.
On the Ausuka comment, why is the self vote awkward? I obviously wasn't in the game for a bit, so me being near lynch while self voting is moot. I was fucking around because it was still early game and I didn't have really any solidified reads. Plus, I believe it was my entrance into this game, which was pseudo still in the RVS stage, so see it more in that sense of me playing around with Rb.
And yeah, Unabombh's probably scum with her flip flop.
I'm pretty sure you answered this yourself earlier in your post. Reaction testing, and my wagon speed painted me as town likely to him. He did it off of other's interactions, so I'm a little put off by the comment of you being confused why it happened. Most of the people on my wagon moved off, so it's not even like Eddie is the only one who thought similar.Eddie fake-hammers via a revote (191), and then declares FL to be probably town (210), and then switches his vote to . . . himself (221)). ??? I know he self-votes, so I'm not reading too much into that. What I'm confused with here is why Eddie suddenly declared FL to be town despite voting (and fake-hammering via revote) him earlier, especially when FL didn't interact with anyone between Eddie's original vote on FL and Eddie's fake-hammer and Eddie's self-vote.
Pretty much the same thing I said about Eddie here. Maybe I'm being white knighted by one, or both, of them, but if I am, there WK is working. Although, I will admit, Wave does seem like he could be potentially white knighting me, but I understand his side of Ausuka vs Wave more than I do Ausuka's. And I also have a bias towards the pokemon avatar initially, so that's saying something.Wavemode declares FL to be a mislynch (229). Um, why are you so sure here? This, in conjunction with 238 kinda make it seem like you know he's town? Why exactly do you think FL is so useful here? FL is kinda null to me. He made a couple observations (130, 131, 151) and self-voted, which is at best anti-town, especially since he was on his own L-1 wagon. Since it doesn't look like he's actually checked the thread since then, being on his own wagon is NAI to me atm. However, his comments were relatively shallow and would be easy for scum to fake. I haven't seen enough from him to actually justify lynching him, but I don't see anything here that screams town to me either.
Scum are likely to be following him, because they probably feel like they can't lynch him ever, so it probably is just easier to go along when he's pushing town.rb moves to Sunlit Diamond, and a bunch of people follow him. Again. I'm kinda surprised that so many people are following him tbh. He throws out reads with little reasoning or explanation, and he seems to have a bunch of followers with every new vote he makes. I need to go through this later to see if there's any interesting patterns here; kinda seems like scum might be exploiting his pushes with how quickly these wagons seem to be building.-
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In post 500, NotTheRealPaul wrote:why do u post so much when im sleeping???!
I really dont understand eddie/rb's reasoning or lack there of for a thor lynch. To be fair I skimmed through a lot of it, but I found myself agreeing with thor a lot.
I also really liked wavemode's stuff so my lynchpool has extended to include the vulpix.
Thats really all i remember from skimming through it. Someone posted 2 walls that I just ignored (sorry not a wall fan). I see skitters back with her usual walls as well *sigh*.
I feel like Rb is a tone reader, and dissects through interactions, as I explained in one of my earlier posts. I think him scum reading Thor makes a lot of sense, and most of the things thor has said have been coming off as NAI to me, so I'm interested in what exactly it is that you agree with Thor a lot.
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Yeah, fair enough. I actually tend to think scum uses the decisive/straight forward with in their actions more than town. They always make themselves have a reason for moving over unless they're the troll scum type.In post 506, UnaBombaH wrote:
Firstly, I'm still a dude.In post 501, Flavor Leaf wrote:And yeah, Unabombh's probably scum with her flip flop.
Secondly, where did I flip flop?
I always try not to flip flop, because I like to be decisive and straight-forward with my actions.
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Okay, just checking your logic behind it.In post 508, UnaBombaH wrote:
Ech? Did you read what I wrote?In post 505, Flavor Leaf wrote:Why did you unvote me, and not vote one of your scum reads if you feel pretty good about your scum reads?
Also, one of your scum couples are two of your highest town reads?
I do not scumread wavemode/thor, but if Ausuka/Sunlit should flip town, the table would turn around.
Currently I feel good about scumreading Ausuka/Sunlit, but I could be mistaken.
And in the event I am, I think it logically follows (with how I see the situation), that wavemode should be suspected beyond reads.-
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Interested in what brought you to that.In post 517, Eddie Cane wrote:or rb.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Time to dissect the Flavor of the posts I'm catching up on. Hopefully we get some pretty Leafy stuff.
I mean, AtE (Appealing to Emotion) is a thing and sometimes comes off as better than dismantling the case logically for that very reason. Scum do that, so you don't necessarily want to do what scum does. But that's just WIFOM coming out, so I guess it's an argument that can be proven both ways. I personally disagree on the scum!Thor tearing through it logically, especially considering you states there was a lack of case. So this is a little suspicious to me. Definitely not leafy.In post 553, NotTheRealPaul wrote:@FL what I liked about Thor's posts was the blatant frustration at eddie/rb's case/lack there of. Im not familiar with thor's scum/town meta but I think getting over emotional like that is worse for scum. Like scum would just dismantle the case logically while a townie would get angry cuz it was stupid. Like thor reads to me as an angry town but I feel like scum!thor would have torn through any case on him logically, and very calmly.
I cant really point to a specific post because like I said (or I think I said) I mostly skimmed it but I found myself on thor's side.
pedit: why cant rb be scum if thor is town?
and didnt someone say this but with eddie/rb switched?
Talk to me about this. Seems like you wanted to switch from your Wave pushing because you knew you were going to lose that. Not leafy at all.In post 557, Ausuka wrote:SD looks like scum right now. the explanations she gives are stretchy and overcomplicated.
Considering they replaced soon after, (haven't read if there was a reason just yet, but assuming lack of activity), then I definitely see this as a genuine catch up post attempt due to not keeping up. Only thing a little weird is the "mostly skimming for the last few days", and didn't post, but other than that one little thing, I see this as pretty leafy.In post 560, Ciara24 wrote:I'm not gonna do a wall of reasoning because it is quite similar to a lot of other reasons already brought up and it would be pointless
not seeing this whole Thor scum thing either, agree that he just seems like angry town
I like rb, Eddie and wave mode for town
Still on the fence about Una and Sunlit but leantown.
By process of elimination that leaves skitter, ThinkBig/Perfect Fifth, Not The Real Paul and Dunker. Not saying they're scum but I just haven't any real reads on them.
side note: sorry for the inactivity guys, should change from today onwards.
I've been mostly skimming for the last few days so if anyone has anything specific they want me to direct my thoughts towards, hit me up, otherwise I'll be just here doing a full read through
If Sunlit ended up being town, this post to me seems reachy. I have put my thoughts out that I'm not town reading Thor by any means, but I wasn't directly scum reading him either., and it kind of looks like he wanted to test the waters with a potential buddying up to me here. And I don't like the Ciara thing considering the lack of activity from the slot at this point and the small catch up post right before it. Definitely not leafy. I'll watch Thor more closely from now on. He could be town in desperation mode, I guess.In post 563, Thor665 wrote:I also like Skitter for town now also, which makes me feel less bad about Ausuka, frankly.
I also like Flavor better now.
Still fine with Sunlit lynch.
Would also do Ciara or ThinkBig in a hot second.
Skitter's 565
I don't know what I feel about this. Kind of feels like scum overcompensating with questions. I dissected one of his bigger posts in my 501 earlier, and I can't tell what I think of Skitter. Does anyone have any experience with Skitter that can tell me if this seems like normal behavior for town Skitter? I like to meta dive, so @Skitter, can you link me some of your games?
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Lol, so the entirety of this read on me is fabricated. Here's why. One: I liked Wavemode's posting, so I don't see the cases you were making on Wave as legitimate reasons. That's not a lazy read. I am not a lazy player. Sure, I forget to check up on games sometimes, but that isn't lazy. When I am here, I will interact and actually scum hunt.flavour leaf: 496 is horrible and i dislike it greatly. i said i was an alt repeatedly so trying to frame me as newbscum without wavemode!confbias feels kinda sketchy although that isn't that scummy- what is more scummy is that he says "I actually like Wavemode...so because of that I actually don't like Ausuka very much." which is like the laziest attitude ever and makes no sense.
the bold infers that I flat out said that I didn't think you were newbscum. And I guess I didn't pay too much attention to you being saying you were an alt. Must have glossed over it, because I thought you said you weren't an alt. Oops. But yeah, this is a fabricated read you created and just so happened to put near the bottom, hidden away, so you could prove later you were leaning there.In post 496, Flavor Leaf wrote: I actually like Wavemode...so because of that I actually don't like Ausuka very much. This most recent thing of Wavemode calling her newb scum kind of made me feel like she was scum who doesn't think she is newbscum.I'm not saying she is newbscum or anything, but that's what I feel that interaction came out to be like, if that makes sense.
Also, I'm really disliking Mario buddying up with Thor. That might make me want to not have Thor lynched for the day.
@Rb - You've been pushing the Thor/Ausuka-Mario thing, and I saw you say there was a situation where Ausuka could be town and Thor could still be scum. Do you think they'd be playing the way they were if they were both scum? And what makes you think that Thor would be scum over MM4?
Also, Rb's scum caught for the wrong reasons is pretty damn leafy to me, and kind of proves that the frustration that Paul talked about earlier could actually be genuine. Just genuinely...scum.
"Eddie has become ????" so you think Thor/Eddie/Rb are TvTnT? Okay, Skitter might be lowkey scum. I really need someone to help me out with this slot.In post 627, skitter30 wrote:K, the Thor/Eddie thing is beginning to get annoying. Thor is still town, despite the lovely language and imagery he's been using. Eddie has become ???? cuz I can't figure out what he's doing. I dunno if he's just stubbornly sticking with a read despite being shown multiple times that he's misread Thor's posts because he doesn't want to back down, or if he's sticking to his guns because he thinks if he's persistent enough he'll be able to push through a mislynch, or if he's doing it for some other inscrutable reason that I just cannot fathom.
I really can't tell what's going on with him. The fact that he's ignoring my questions isn't exactly inspiring confidence in him atm, and is also making it hard for me to figure out what his intentions are.
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Wavemode vs Rb: I'm actually going to agree with Rb on this side. We have had 26 pages of a good amount of content. People should be more solidified than they are, or at least have some kind of read on the other players, even if you have no clue if they are town or scum.
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is the F in leaf scummy for you or something. Mulch?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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@Mulch - I feel you took the majority of my reads.
Although I don't care for lynching Wave or TB today. TB seems to get mislynched often from what I've seen.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I definitely want to lynch in Mario/Thor, though. I think Thor has a more likely chance of flipping town than Mario. I'm debating if I want to have RB/Thor/Eddie stuff come up again tomorrow, though.
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Really? I actually scum read mario more than I scum read Ausuka.In post 1011, Eddie Cane wrote:do you think Mario slot is scum? I scum read ausuka but Mario posting seems fine.
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It's day 1. we have the whole game ahead of us. We'll get to her. I want to meta dive her, but I guess it won't matter much if you think they are very similar.In post 1040, Mulch wrote:Im a little wary of skitters rn as she isnt as aggressive as her town game normally is but its also only page 8. The thing is, her town and scum games are annoyingly similar except for how aggressive she is.
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also, realized I wasn't voting.
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this implies the exact opposite of what mulch said her scum game was, I feel.In post 1050, NotTheRealPaul wrote:Mulch skitters kinda stole my post again. Two newbies together and Ive seen both skitters town and scum games. She asks a lot of questions, but her town game is generally more aggressive. Im really wary of skitters' scum game, but I think I can tell the difference rn. I might be a bit overconfident though. Rn Ive got a scumlean on her because she isnt super aggressive but not quite enough to vote her because she has been quite inactive this game.
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Hey, guys. I'm here. If SD was a vig shot, then TB is likely town.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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@Frog - Where was I "unusually concerned" about my wagon dissipating. I don't think this is true. Curious as to why that's what came across to you.
@Rb - how did both Paul and Una go from you wanting them lynched to one of the few people in your town bloc? Haha. I'm not seeing it with either of them. I actually think Una's pretty scummy, granted Eddie's one of my stronger town reads.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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No. don't talk about it.In post 1746, NotTheRealPaul wrote:
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So you think that either one of Rb or EC have to be scum? What happens if Thor is scum? Do you think one of them was hard bussing? Also, what is your thoughts on Thor's Dunker vote?In post 1674, UnaBombaH wrote:
I think one of them sort of has to be.In post 1661, NotTheRealPaul wrote:wait do u sr eddie for not giving reasons? and if yes do u sr rb?
I don't know why people would need to buddy up, or be ok with someone buddying up on them if they are both town.
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Like, you said the reasoning sorta, but you didn't explain why.In post 1750, rb wrote:
u gonna read or nah?In post 1747, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Rb - how did both Paul and Una go from you wanting them lynched to one of the few people in your town bloc? Haha. I'm not seeing it with either of them. I actually think Una's pretty scummy, granted Eddie's one of my stronger town reads.
You basically could say the exact same thing about anyone. I didn't see Una's postings as town, and I've stated that.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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It's like if I went...
I think RB is town because of his posts.
K, what about the posts?
I think Rb is scum because of his posts.
K, what about the posts?
Literally can do the same thing for making a case either direction. This being said, I think your posts are coming from a town perspective due to the way you have been pushing things, and changing your direction makes me feel like you are trying to legitimately sort.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I didn't like her posts on EC, and I didn't like her posts on Thor. They come off as incredibly fabricated to me and they look like she's trying to muster up reads to make it look like she has reads, and come off townie.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I'm not really sure what you are referring to exactly with the thing she wouldn't be doing as newb scum?
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I'm wondering if I'm just missing something with it. Because her push on Eddie to me doesn't seem real. Like any of it to me, and her Thor read just seems like a WK attempt that you guys will disregard and go "oh, you're new, you just don't see it."CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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it just feels like she's fishing for your approval and to have you potentially push things for her. And the line about SK seems like a cop out to commit.In post 1652, UnaBombaH wrote:
Huoh. And to rb saying I'm wasting time, its because I dont trust my reads/gut much, Im still a newb to the game.In post 1635, MarioManiac4 wrote:im guessing you think its skitter but im not seeing it
Guess I'll bit then.
"EASY" = EC = Eddie Cane.
I got a very very strong gut feel like he is just an ass-kisser. Scum who isn't gamesolving too much to be "obv. town" as to avoid automatic NKs, but also not lynched because he has been agreeing so far.
I got even more excited when rb just asked why his posting lacked continuity, but maybe rb didn't think of it to be too bad.
Because my initial scum-pings in my mind were "Eddie trying to pocket rb" and "Sunlit pocketing Ausuka".
This might not make him automatically Mafia, but I was thinking more along the lines of potential SK or..whatever is normal not-town?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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it comes off to me like she's SK or PR hunting, I guess. I don't know how to word it.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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like maybe scum have a role cop or something and they checked Eddie? Something just bites me the wrong way.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I mean, pocketing is a natural feeling. Don't need to know what it is to do it. If you are scum, and the loudest player in the game town reads you, that feels good, and you want to make sure they keep making you feel good. It's like sex.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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If wave is scum, he pocketed me pretty nicely with that WK'ing of his.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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if you think you're probably being paranoid, that lends itself towards you think you are more likely paranoid. This doesn't make sense to me why you'd vote there if you think it is more likely that you are just paranoid.In post 1785, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
i think this post is scumIn post 1657, NotTheRealPaul wrote:eddie is trying to be friendly? whaaaaaat? felt like he was just kinda fucking around (no offense eddie).
rb ur supposed to bus me later in the day
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I don't think he's scum. I'll even push some stuff from today to think he's not scum. His post here and the fact he did it really early in the day comes off as town to me. I don't think he'd bring it up so early and not yet under pressure if he was scum. He also lowkey protected me in Day 1 when my wagon was forming, and I don't feel he had to. I also agreed with his MM read of not being as obv town as everyone though. Like I said before, he could be WK'ing me, but if he is, then he's done a decent job with it because I don't think he's scum. There doesn't seem much a point to try and do that to me, though, since I'm really not a huge presence in this game. I'm trying to be! I feel like I do a good amount when I do show up!In post 1790, Eddie Cane wrote:
did i do the same? what's your wave read?In post 1786, Flavor Leaf wrote:If wave is scum, he pocketed me pretty nicely with that WK'ing of his.
To Skitter's post here, about Thor/Wave/Frog stuff...
You said you have no idea why Thor would ever kill SD, well, in general, that's a reason why he would do it, as has been explained in this game already. Wave used a similar thing as a defense, and I think Wave's seemed genuine. I don't have a strong read on Thor either way. I can see him flipping either way, so I'm trying to POE it out, and find scum elsewhere. I think a scum flip somewhere would make me feel more confident in reading Thor. Also, as I said before...Frog is likely town.
So you went and made this post in response to Eddie because you only agreed with one of his reads basically?
Una's post on Eddie
I'm scum reading Una. This looks like scum tunneling onto a townie who is pushing incorrect things/coming off as kind of trolly, if that makes sense. Scum typically like to abuse town's faults, and seem to get frustrated if people follow them. I really don't see how any of this post is actually a case, and is all implied that Eddie is 100% scum. In this post even, she says "This does not automatically make you Mafia is what I said, don't be ridiculous", yet everything in her post implies that she is pushing that as the case, so the agenda doesn't line up.
To her other posts near that about Eddie, kind of the same thing I just said, really.
This looks like setting up multiple lynch candidates, and then possible soft busing a partner, especially if RB/Eddie both are town.In post 1838, UnaBombaH wrote:
Huh, this is a most interesting question. I thought there was no possible scenario where Thor gets wagoned -> flips scum ->rb/eddie is scum.In post 1749, Flavor Leaf wrote:
So you think that either one of Rb or EC have to be scum? What happens if Thor is scum? Do you think one of them was hard bussing? Also, what is your thoughts on Thor's Dunker vote?In post 1674, UnaBombaH wrote:
I think one of them sort of has to be.In post 1661, NotTheRealPaul wrote:wait do u sr eddie for not giving reasons? and if yes do u sr rb?
I don't know why people would need to buddy up, or be ok with someone buddying up on them if they are both town.
Don't know.
But after reading how that wagon was built, I can see rb or eddie either being confident enough to "hard-buss" their partner.
It could have been testing the waters at first and some easy distancing, but once a wagon gets traction, a good player doesn't pull the brakes, they know it would only implicate them.
Remember that scum can day chat, so I assume coordinating something like that isn't as hard as it would be without.
If Thor is scum, it changes nothing.
In a scenario where one of eddie/rb is scum and the other town, one has a good scumread, and the other is bussing/after towncred.
Also, Paul's buttering up a lot to Rb with posts like these and one he did earlier about "no possibility, and if there is, oh well" mentality. I can see it coming from unconfident town trusting an experienced player, though.In post 1913, NotTheRealPaul wrote:I can see that. rb ur pretty fucking scaryFoS: Paul
One weird thing we have going in this game that I just realized from Wave's reads list is Eddie has the "unless FL is pocketing me" mentality, I have that for Wave, and Wave has it for Una. Quite a chain there. And Eddie is scum reading Wave, I'm scum reading Una, and Wave/Una are going for Eddie. So this is something I'm going to look more into.
I don't like RB's post stating town should be embarrassed if MM4 is scum, because if that ends up being the case, then MM4 would just be warlocking Rb this game, which isn't a bad strategy. Get in town RB's good favor, become a confidante like role, can likely steamroll a few days at least.
Una/Paul are who I'm leaning scum on at this point.
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I'm really confused as to why Una/Paul were both in Rb's town pool.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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You all seem to constantly be here, but when I show up, nobody's here. -.-CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Why don't you get yourself and Una?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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How do you read Una?In post 2162, NotTheRealPaul wrote:una i dont get
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I feel like this is generally a sign of mafia controlling you, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. It's only Day 2 and we don't have a scum flip. For all we know, you could be 100% right on everything.In post 2282, rb wrote:Also this is by far feeling like the worst game I've ever played as town, so yeah Thor if you're town I do think you've played terrible but so have I. I'm legit sorry to the entire town right now because no matter what I do in this game I feel totally lost, which is not at all what I'm used to.
Sigh.
I'll vote for Una, Thor, or GR today, I guess. Trusting Eddie on Paul like he asked of me for now.
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Read my ISO, and then let's talk about something else.In post 2289, rb wrote:Why not frog?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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It's a little weird for me, because Eddie's my strongest town read, and he told me to trust him with Paul...In post 2292, Game Replacement wrote:
Why is this the leading wagon?In post 2279, PenguinPower wrote:wavemode (3): Eddie Cane, Dunkerdoodles, NotTheRealPaul
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maybe look for the predecessor.In post 2293, rb wrote:there's like barely anything in your iso about frog, and you don't even interact with him
there's just one statement where you say you think frog is town
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