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[Havo]

Please tell me that's not going to be a thing the entire game

Would be more than some bring to the game, no?

lol

[Havo]

VOTE: Tacos

This would save a lot of headaches.

You know it's true.

[Havo]

@Mulch,

Tell me when I need to start posting READS please.

I don't want to miss that deadline window.

[Havo]

what

you srs lol

i didnt even look, posted, then looked at the vc afterwards

yeah well a little earlier and you would have hammered

which makes me think
maybe you were early bussing and thus did not pay attention to how many votes your scumbuddy was at

so i am going to VOTE: klazam

I was thinking the same exact thing.

VOTE: Klazam

[Havo]

How is mulch worse than taco? Mulch selfhammered as town. end discussion. It might have "worked" that game, but its 100% always a antitown move to self hammer. period.

Ha. I'm learning Mulch plays some kind of pseudo mafia.

[Havo]

You guys really think scum would have been that careless to bus without looking at vote counts? Come on now... Scum calculates their moves.

P-Edit: Holy fuck this Klazam wagon is really bad

Scum calculates their moves? But Tchill as scum would place an opportunistic vote early which would definitely lead to a lot of attention on Tchill? Interesting.

Also, if you replace tchill with Klazam, this sentence also works, so you just destroyed your own logic for calling Klazam scum.

no
tchill knew what he was doing
klazam did not

Ok you're starting to worry me. Quit making so much sense.

[Havo]

Actually, doodle admitted he lied after tchill suggested a lynch on him.

[Havo]

VOTE: dunkindoods

[Havo]

VOTE: Havo

While I wait for answers, I would like to put my vote on this slot.

Great. Prepare for a wall of 'OMG! How can you vote me when everything I typed is so Towny this is so unfair you must be a real genius to make accurate reads in the first twenty four hours of the game when it takes me at least a week to tune my exquisite scumhunting powers.'

Was that really necessary?

Lighten up Francis.

[Havo]

VOTE: Havo

While I wait for answers, I would like to put my vote on this slot.

So you like what I say about DunkinDonuts so much

You vote me?

Well ok. That makes sense.

[Havo]

What type of grouping is there other than Masons and Neighbors?

Cult or scum? Hmm. Lol.

[Havo]

whats a mason role do?

This BOTHERS me given our discussion before the game, honestly. Talk to me about it. You should know to what i refer here.

You should elaborate on this. What is Tacos holding back that you know about.

[Havo]

VOTE: Havo

While I wait for answers, I would like to put my vote on this slot.

Great. Prepare for a wall of 'OMG! How can you vote me when everything I typed is so Towny this is so unfair you must be a real genius to make accurate reads in the first twenty four hours of the game when it takes me at least a week to tune my exquisite scumhunting powers.'

I lol'd.

VOTE: Havo

While I wait for answers, I would like to put my vote on this slot.

So you like what I say about DunkinDonuts so much

You vote me?

Well ok. That makes sense.

Um I never said that I liked what you said about Dunk, in fact you barely said anything and that's why I'm voting you. It seems to me from your ISO that you are trying to fly under the radar.

How high is the radar? I'll make sure to stay above it just for you.

Or... You can push me for a read list.

[Havo]

VOTE: theta alpine

he agreed I'm town ("ok") then voted me. scum claim.

i was going to say something and then i read chip buttys post

thank you chip butty
thank you for saying that

so instead i would like to highlight three of the words in the second sentence of that post

This is truly breathtaking in its directness, utter simplicity, and, dare I say, sheer audacity. I mean, isn't this what we all want to say, with every post,

regardless of alignment

? Skirt Skirt has captured the distilled, crystal-pure essence of Mafia in this disarmingly forthright two-word post, and I, for one, am filled with unadulterated admiration and gratitude. Thank you so much, Skirt Skirt.

Dare I say it .........

[Havo]

Chips last 3 posts have been complete fluff.

Clearly flying under Tywins radar.

[Havo]

Tywin just said "I'm confused about 2 people but I'm gonna vote this other guy instead". Skirt skirt is just posting fluff with the green plant. Dunkerdoodles faked a claim early with mulch and when I suggested they're scum it was immediately retracted... So much great towny play.

You know, at this point, I'm just gonna call what Mulch and Dunk did NAI. Town and scum can do it.

Your reaction is noted.

[Havo]

Chips last 3 posts have been complete fluff.

Clearly flying under Tywins radar.

Don't put words into my mouth. They have been noted as well.

I haven't put anything in your mouth. Trust me, you'll know when I do.

Kinky.

[Havo]

Would like to see more out of Fykus and Assemble.

Fykus with just one post? Really? Not like him.

[Havo]

@Mulch

If you had an instant Day kill that had to be used right now. Who would you choose.

[Havo]

@Mulch

If you had an instant Day kill that had to be used right now. Who would you choose.

I would holster. Do you mean if I was forced to use it?

Yeah. Had too.

[Havo]

That mason stunt was just as confusing as it was in the original game it was referencing.

I do not believe Serg commenting on policy lynch was a scumslip.

Well holy ....

It's as almost if I summoned you.

[Havo]

ok this is really pissing me off
it should've been obvious the fact i wasn't actually mason. it was a reaction test, and it got good reactions and bad reactions. it also sparked discussion which helps town. it really shoudn't have created confusion

If it was obvious, then it would be a shit reaction test, right?

Where are you at with this now?

[Havo]

Maybe assemble or tacos.

Why Assembles over Fykus?

[Havo]

My boring shot is probably Assemble here. My hero shot is Eddie. My "scumread" shot is prob Serge or Klazam.

Who is this Eddie?

[Havo]

My boring shot is probably Assemble here. My hero shot is Eddie. My "scumread" shot is prob Serge or Klazam.

No complaints with this.

Not feeling Tacos yet tho. But I haven't figured out how to read him yet.

[Havo]

My boring shot is probably Assemble here. My hero shot is Eddie. My "scumread" shot is prob Serge or Klazam.

Who is this Eddie?

Skirt skirt. Eddie Cane. His vote on Tchill was really un-Eddie-like but I don't have a concrete ~reason~ for him being scum

Yeah but Eddie told us he was town. So ......

[Havo]

Chip butty is the plant.

He looks like a plant.

[Havo]

VOTE: sergtacos
This is scum

How am i scum? ur scum

VOTE: Doodles

OMGUS, not nesscerally scum indicative but still noteworthy

VOTE: mumble actually, i like this wagon better.

next post jumps on biggest wagon

do you realise you just voted a PR that hardclaimed?

Nope. cool story bro.

outright denies my claim, even tho my hypothetical mason confirmed it...

whats a mason role do?

weird how he said i was lying but didn't even know what the role did...

tchill's probably town
mumble gutread scum
klazam and tacos possible partners

Do you want to answer my question?

He doesn't because he's scum. He's avoiding you Mumbler, I would suggest voting him.

mumbler didn't even ask me a question, and suggest he votes me is kinda bad.

anyways it's pretty obvious i'm not actually masons with mulch, but mumble and taco's responses are pretty bad
tchill's response felt genuine which is why im townreading him

how is my response bad? your reasoning suck ass. make a strong case on me, tyvm.

here ya go

Actually, doodle admitted he lied after tchill suggested a lynch on him.

it's pretty obvious that i'm not actually mason, i would never actually claim my real role this early, it's called a reaction test and yours was really bad

LMFAO first off, i was at first kidding around with my vote as i tried to catch up however as i read the latest posts instead of the early ones, i got convinced that you're scum.

SECONDLY, thats bullshit about how i don't know the role and think you're lying. i found out what the role does from YOU. Like, its right fucking there. the posts, read it, THEN you decided to admit you were lying right after tchill created a policy lynch on yo ass.

This post screams town to me.

[Havo]

My boring shot is probably Assemble here. My hero shot is Eddie. My "scumread" shot is prob Serge or Klazam.

Who is this Eddie?

Skirt skirt. Eddie Cane. His vote on Tchill was really un-Eddie-like but I don't have a concrete ~reason~ for him being scum

Was Still during RVS tho, wasn't it?

[Havo]

friendly reminder sergtacos scumclaimed

This looks like it's gonna be a sticking point for you.

So why don't you explain it to me real slow.

Cause I've read it 3 times now and still don't see it.

[Havo]

friendly reminder sergtacos scumclaimed

This looks like it's gonna be a sticking point for you.

So why don't you explain it to me real slow.

Cause I've read it 3 times now and still don't see it.

sergtacos said i was a policy lynch, and how does he know i'm a policy lynch? because he's scum
if he thought i was scum, he'd say i was a scummy person and should be lynched for that, not a policy lynch

Alright I get where you're coming from. But I don't see it that way. I can actually see why Tacos would call it a policy lynch. Because Tchill was saying lynch you for other results. Not because you were scummy per se.

Not that I'm defending Tacos. Lol. I do slightly TR him at the moment. If one can actually read him.

[Havo]

VOTE: dunker

VOTE: Skirt Skirt

I guess we just have to figure out the reasons on our own.

[Havo]

VOTE: Assembles

Need more content out of him.

[Havo]

Do you have any scumreads, Havo?

Right now I don't have the warm fuzzies for Klazam, Doodles, Tchill or Assembles.

Nothing serious tho. Still early for me.

I've learned to treat my early reads with kids gloves.

[Havo]

ok this is really pissing me off
it should've been obvious the fact i wasn't actually mason. it was a reaction test, and it got good reactions and bad reactions. it also sparked discussion which helps town. it really shoudn't have created confusion

If it was obvious, then it would be a shit reaction test, right?

Where are you at with this now?

Haven't shifted. I really hate that kind of stunt and I can't move forward until I get it resolved.

I agree with the point you made. it's my biggest issue with him. He says there's no way anyone would actually believe it and try's to play it off as a joke but then claims it was a reaction test.

It was either one or the other. But it can't be both.

[Havo]

mumble and havo need prods

and as for what is going on at the moment
people are voting other people
mostly sergtacos and dunker based on the last vote count

I will get caught up tonight. Or in a few hours.

[Havo]

Is Tacos L-1?

[Havo]

VOTE: Tacos

This would save a lot of headaches.

You know it's true.

Perhaps it could be, however your reasoning to lynch me is bad. Headaches>Mafia? If you're town, you're not playing for your win-con. So which therefore you're scum or anti town.

1SP- Havo

(scum point)

This was an RVS vote. Why you treating it like I just cast it?

[Havo]

VOTE: Mulch

I can't take the bong fueled panic attack that is Tacos any longer.

[Havo]

VOTE: Tacos

LMAO.

[Havo]

VOTE: Tacos

LMAO.

ur scum or an idiot. if ur town, improve ur game play big time.

The LMAO was because I voted Mulch by mistake. Not directed at you.

I actually TR you early, but you keep saying stupid shat over and over.

You need to put the bong down and chill instead of destroying the thread.

[Havo]

Well, if anyone wanna hammer me, wait till i get back on. I said I got a theory and I'll state that theory when I'm lynched. whoever hammers me before i get back on is scum.

I would vote again if I could tbh.

[Havo]

why not say your theory now?

u seem worried and want me to state my theory right now instead of me stating it when im lynched. why? why are u that scared?

This makes no sense at all.

[Havo]

holy shit you guys are bad

The only people that would know he's town for sure is scum.

[Havo]

Vote Count 1.08

Sergtacos [6]:

Mumble, Dunkerdoodles, Chip Butty, Mulch, Tchill13, Havo

Dunkerdoodles [2]:

Theta Alpine, skirt skirt

Tchill13 [2]:

TywinL, sergtacos

TywinL [1]:

Fykus

Theta Alpine [1]:

Assemblerotws,

Not Voting [1]:

Klazam

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

Deadline ends in

(expired on 2017-09-28 11:00:00)

on

September 28th.

Mod Notes:

Mumble has been prodded.

look at this fucking wagon. the 6 scummiest people in the game, with the actual should be wagons (t chill and dunker) trailing. sigh as shit. if you're town and you're on the serg mislynch you are BAD and you should FEEL BAD

The six scummiest people? LMAO.

[Havo]

VOTE: Carcalilly

Welcome to the game.

[Havo]

@Fykus.

So u basically jailed Mulch last night?

[Havo]

Yeah. The wording is commuted though but same ghing

And there was no kill.

Yes, your plan sounds good then.

[Havo]

VOTE: Doodlebug

[Havo]

Hey Havo, can you explain your vote on Taco on Day 1?

Sure. It was a pretty selfish vote tbh. I've played with Tacos before and I find it extremely difficult to read him.

And he has a way of spamming the thread that derails my senses. So after he posted a couple of things I didn't like, I felt like there was a decent chance he might flip scum. So that with the above reasons was good enough for me.

[Havo]

VOTE: Tacos

This would save a lot of headaches.

You know it's true.

Just saying.

[Havo]

i'm supposed to think 2 kills did not go through while fykus wants us to lynch dunker instead of mulch because we "100 percent catch scum that way"? we have 2 lynches lined up regardless of flip and even though that has already been explained i'm failing to see why this is way more beneficial to town than scum.

There was no kill. Mafia either got roll blocked or jailed or in this case Comutted.

Fykus is the only one claiming to have done that.

Pretty basic mafia 101 here.

[Havo]

Dunk has claimed Mason, Neighbor, Cop and now Vig.

[Havo]

There's a ton of distracting going on here.

Players trying to manipulate votes.

These reactions make me think there's definitely 2 separate scum factions.

[Havo]

oh yeah i should probably
VOTE: fykus

the whole dunker v mulch thing reeks of being given a choice of two sub-optimal lynches
so why not cut the rope and lynch the person they were not expecting

p-edit
do you really expect that they planned all of that in a single night
although i will say that my conclusion of daytalk draws from the assumption that fykus is scum

Mulch claimed scum.

WHY are we debating who to lynch????????????

Because people are pushing agendas here. That's why.

[Havo]

hardclaim cop with red on mulch
VOTE: mulch

VOTE: mulch

LMAO

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles


You can't have targeted me last night LOL

Can you guys check this theory and tell me if I'm being dumb here:

1. Town.Mulch commutes N1
2. Town.Dunker shoots Mulch N1, but learns his shot didn't go through and concludes Mulch is scum.
3. Town.Dunker hardclaims cop to prevent Mulch from fakeclaming commuter, and accuses Mulch.
4. Scum.Fykus, who didn't force-commute Mulch at all, and thus doesn't know that a cop investigation of Mulch wouldn't go through, jumps on the Mulch wagon.
5. Mulch knows a cop investigation of him would have failed and suspects Dunker of fakeclaiming.
6. 1v1 clusterfuck etc.

So...Town.Mulch, Town.Dunker, Scum.Fykus

Also, enchanted princess sounds like someone is taking the piss...

LMAO!

MULCH CLAIMED SCUM.

Why are so many people trying desperately to save him????

[Havo]

It explains that sequence #698-#700 perfectly.

And you being Mulch's scum partner would explain perfectly why you're going halfway around the world to save Mulch when he indeed scum claimed.

Scum Fykus isn't going to out his self to take out 2 townies like this.

[Havo]

MULCH SCUM CLAIMED AND THEN VOTED HIMSELF!!!!!!

Anyone against a Mulch lynch right now is SCUM or completely incompetent.

[Havo]

fykus voted someone for a guilty investigation while knowing that the guilty investigation was impossible

anyone against a fykus lynch right now is scum or completely incompetent

Why did Mulch claim and vote himself?

[Havo]

fykus voted someone for a guilty investigation while knowing that the guilty investigation was impossible

anyone against a fykus lynch right now is scum or completely incompetent

Why did Mulch claim and vote himself?

Mulch voted himself because he thought he would be quick hammered. Once the incompetent townies decided not to do that he removed his vote in hopes he'd actually live another day phase. Which is exactly why he's not posting much defending himself because he hopes town talks themselves in circles and decides to go in another direction. Good job mulch it's working.

[Havo]

Mulch isn't defending himself.

He's ALWAYS like a pit bull when he's being pushed.

VOTE: Mulch

[Havo]

Fykus is town as long as mulch doesn't flip town commuter.

wrong

fykus is scum regardless of whether mulch is town or scum

p-edit
that was a poor way to do it then
you made several posts before dunker why not vote mulch then

also what do you mean actual boon created role
like you said no one is realistically going to have the role you claimed
pretty safe for you to claim

You're about to feel really silly.

[Havo]

Fykus is town as long as mulch doesn't flip town commuter.

wrong

fykus is scum regardless of whether mulch is town or scum

p-edit
that was a poor way to do it then
you made several posts before dunker why not vote mulch then

also what do you mean actual boon created role
like you said no one is realistically going to have the role you claimed
pretty safe for you to claim

You're about to feel really silly.

Theta is about to fake claim Lmao

Beat me to it. Lol

[Havo]

I could see 2 scum factions where each is allowed to kill only

Every other night.

Thus the commuter roles.

[Havo]

my action targeted mulch
but i have confirmed with the mod that my action would have resolved before fykus

i do not get results

Ok that's new info that may be credible.

I'm willing to consider it.

[Havo]

I OBVIOUSLY WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE NIGHTKILLED STOP VOTING ME

You know, Havo actually pointed out that your commuting yourself / being commuted was equiv to being jailed. Yet he just took this as evidence you were the designated NKer, without considering you might have been the NK target. How scummy / dumb is that?

You know Chip I'm really starting to dislike you as a person. No need for the personal attacks. You were wrong before and you are wrong again.

[Havo]

I'm a VT

[Havo]

So Dunk tried to shoot Mulch as a town Vig, his action failed and he automatically thinks Mulch is scum because?????

Makes zero sense. Why would that make Mulch scum?

Next Fykus claims he Force Comuted Mulch (basically Jailing him) there is no CC to Fykus and he sounds believable.

******* Then Mulch scum claims, tips his hat to Fykus for busting him and SELF VOTES to end the day. *********

Almost everyone ignores this.

Then Theta tries to smear Fykus because he has inside info we don't know about. His smear campaign looks very scummy.

Theta has yet to hard claim.

Mulch's actions after Fykus's claims is why I'm voting Mulch.


Then he outs this but has yet to hardclaim.

[Havo]

******* Then Mulch scum claims, tips his hat to Fykus for busting him and SELF VOTES to end the day. *********

I never scum claimed, I tipped my cap sarcastically, and I self voted out of frustration. What else do you need?

You didn't defend yourself during that time. At all. You always defend yourself.

[Havo]

Why the fuck would I self vote and claim scum as scum lololol HAVO YOU HAVE SEEN ME AS SCUM

To end the day. To limit any other info from coming out. Pretty standard tactic when scum is caught dead to rights.

[Havo]

Why the fuck would I self vote and claim scum as scum lololol HAVO YOU HAVE SEEN ME AS SCUM

To end the day. To limit any other info from coming out. Pretty standard tactic when scum is caught dead to rights.

I believed Fykus's claim. And it was Mulch's REACTION!!!!!!!! That convinced me he was scum.

How many times do I have to say it. ???

[Havo]

I believed Fykus's claim. And it was Mulch's REACTION!!!!!!!! That convinced me he was scum.

I would not give up as scum. The multiball was a classic reaction test. Your looking really scummy here trying to jump on a "scumclaim" that dosen't exist. How are you gonna look when I flip town, hmmmm with you pushing me as a "scumclaim"

I'll believe you're town when I see the Mod post it.

Then I'll blame it on your poor play and not take any responsibility for it at all.

That's how it's done here. Ain't it Chip?

[Havo]

I believed Fykus's claim. And it was Mulch's REACTION!!!!!!!! That convinced me he was scum.

I would not give up as scum. The multiball was a classic reaction test. Your looking really scummy here trying to jump on a "scumclaim" that dosen't exist. How are you gonna look when I flip town, hmmmm with you pushing me as a "scumclaim"

I'll believe you're town when I see the Mod post it.

Then I'll blame it on your poor play and not take any responsibility for it at all.

That's how it's done here. Ain't it Chip?

When have you seen me act aggresive as town?


And "I'll blame it on your poor play" makes me think you already know I'm town

Read the first point again.

[Havo]

Havo is flat out lying. Lying comes from scum. You lynch all liars

LMAO! Lynch all liars? Why didn't you say this when Dunk had claimed 4 different roles?

[Havo]

Why do you think I'm scum, Havo?

How many times do I have to type it?

How many?

How many?

Your REACTION.

[Havo]

Push all you want Mulch.

[Havo]

Push all you want Mulch.

ou
You have no response because your scum, and if you manage to flip me you are FUCKED tomorrow. I'm never wrong on this type of shit

You were wrong the very last time you tried. Lol

Chip remembers it well too.

[Havo]

Rolestop would stop the commuterizer. Which means if Theta is town it's 100% confirmed that I took the nightkill.

If you're Town. Yes.

But why would scum target you? ESP after your Day 1 performance?

[Havo]

In that case there would have to be at least one vanilla townie. But, that would be it. LMFAO which would mean we could get a confirmed scum lynching in the VT claims

Here we go.

I'll take your bet Mulch.

[Havo]

In that case there would have to be at least one vanilla townie. But, that would be it. LMFAO which would mean we could get a confirmed scum lynching in the VT claims

Here we go.

I'll take your bet Mulch.

you will self vote if I flip town?

If you are lynched and you indeed flip town,

Sure I'll self vote. Hell yeah I will.

[Havo]

In that case there would have to be at least one vanilla townie. But, that would be it. LMFAO which would mean we could get a confirmed scum lynching in the VT claims

Here we go.

I'll take your bet Mulch.

you will self vote if I flip town?

I'm your Huckleberry.

[Havo]

-->Lynch mulch<--

YOU MAY WIN THIS ROUND, BUT TOMORROW YOU ARE EATING ROPE

Well you're no Daisy. You're no Daisy at all.

[Havo]

-->Lynch mulch<--

YOU MAY WIN THIS ROUND, BUT TOMORROW YOU ARE EATING ROPE

Well you're no Daisy. You're no Daisy at all.

Your after Tchill. Don't worry.

Lolololololololololololololololl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Havo]

Dunk, that was my assumption, yet theta claims he beats out fykus's force commute.

gonna pm mod brb.

Yes that seems to be in dispute.

[Havo]

After reading all of that, I still think Mulch is the best Lynch.

If not Mulch then Theta.

@Chip, why in Gods name are you so damn sure Mulch is town????
U do realize that when he flips scum you are done right?

You have went way above and beyond to defend him. And keep him alive.

[Havo]

I've figured this out. I'll post it in a bit.

[Havo]

I agree 100% with Fykus.

Dunk is town and telling the truth.

Fykus is town and telling the truth.

Fykus straight up busted Mulch. So much so Mulch had no defense. So he tipped his hat to Fykus and waived the white flag.
But then town started doubting itself and talking in circles. Mulch realized that he might could still wiggle out.
So he then hatches a plan with scum buddy Theta to make that claim. Since Theta actually is a Role Stopper. Which only really makes sense as a scum role. And they knew it would trump Fykus's role.

Fykus and Theta have basically the same role. No way town has 2 jail keepers essentially. Theta is the scum PR. Mulch is probably just a goon. Along with the third being a claimed VT. Assembles or Chip maybe. That's debatable.

Theta didn't use his action on Mulch at all.

Theta as a town rolestopper is weak. Protecting Mulch nite 1 is very weak. Mulch was not very Pro Town on Day 1.
Plus this is why Theta claimed so late. Theta and Mulch are both scum. Book it.

[Havo]

Interesting theory actually, but what about the nightkill?

Mulch WAS commuted by Fykus. So he couldn't kill.

Theta probably role stopped a VT. But claimed to RS Mulch.

[Havo]

This is how Town should proceed -

Lynch Mulch first. If one is scum then both are.

Mulch claimed a role that is of no use to town
Theta' s role can be now that we've mass claimed.

If Mulch flips scum we lynch Theta next.
If Mulch flips Town. We have Theta and Fykus target
2 of the claimed VTs tonight.

[Havo]

LMFAO TEECH AND HAVO WONT VOTE THEIR SCUM PARTNER THETA

My plan is the better choice. Makes more sense and you know it.

[Havo]

@Tywin: Of course i am throwing shade on some people. Just as you are and everybody else is.

I dunno. Maybe 'throwing shade' means something different to you. To me it means voicing suspicion.

Perhaps the problem is that I disagree with you.

This is how Town should proceed -

Lynch Mulch first. If one is scum then both are.

Mulch claimed a role that is of no use to town
Theta' s role can be now that we've mass claimed.


Because in the off chance he is Town we can use him.
If Mulch flips scum we lynch Theta next.
If Mulch flips Town. We have Theta and Fykus target
2 of the claimed VTs tonight.

Why not theta first? Probably a scum PR.

[Havo]

@Tywin: Of course i am throwing shade on some people. Just as you are and everybody else is.

I dunno. Maybe 'throwing shade' means something different to you. To me it means voicing suspicion.

Perhaps the problem is that I disagree with you.

This is how Town should proceed -

Lynch Mulch first. If one is scum then both are.

Mulch claimed a role that is of no use to town
Theta' s role can be now that we've mass claimed.


Because in the off chance he is Town we can use him.
If Mulch flips scum we lynch Theta next.
If Mulch flips Town. We have Theta and Fykus target
2 of the claimed VTs tonight.

Why not theta first? Probably a scum PR.

Because if he is Town we can use him. To check the VTs.

[Havo]

LMFAO TEECH AND HAVO WONT VOTE THEIR SCUM PARTNER THETA

My plan is the better choice. Makes more sense and you know it.

Lmfao you make an elaborate post calling your scum buddy scum and won’t vote him

Be more obvious

You're done Mulch.

GG

[Havo]

If Mulch flips Town. It Confirms Theta as Town.

[Havo]

This is how Town should proceed -

Lynch Mulch first. If one is scum then both are.

Mulch claimed a role that is of no use to town
Theta' s role can be now that we've mass claimed.

If Mulch flips scum we lynch Theta next.
If Mulch flips Town. We have Theta and Fykus target
2 of the claimed VTs tonight.

[Havo]

Guys.... Mulch is jumping at everything posted

Yes he's desperate.

My plan is solid and he knows it.

[Havo]

This is how Town should proceed -

Lynch Mulch first. If one is scum then both are.

Mulch claimed a role that is of no use to town
Theta' s role can be now that we've mass claimed.

If Mulch flips scum we lynch Theta next.
If Mulch flips Town. We have Theta and Fykus target
2 of the claimed VTs tonight.

That's the scummiest plan ever. We lynch Mulch, he flips town. Theta and Fykis target two VTs. If both VTs are town, scum refrain from NKing and sit back and laugh while town lynches two more town. And if one of the VTs is scum they NK in the PRs. Scum can't lose on this plan. And why would we trust Fykus if Mulch flips town?

SMH.

[Havo]

Interesting theory actually, but what about the nightkill?

Mulch WAS commuted by Fykus. So he couldn't kill.

Theta probably role stopped a VT. But claimed to RS Mulch.

hahahahaha no

that is literally the worst possible way i could have used my ability as scum

Intentionally trying to confuse and clutter the thread.

That's not what I said.

You used your scum role on someone for sure. But it wasn't Mulch.
You CLAIMED to have used it on Mulch to clear him.

You were the last to claim your role and did it rather coyly.

Fykus isn't outing himself that way. And Town shouldn't have 2 of the same roles.

[Havo]

A Mulch flip just about solves this game either way.

He's already claimed a role that isn't helpful to town.

Unbelievable the amount of resistance to this.

There was no kill last night. So either way he flips is like he was killed last night.

Town LOSES NOTHING here.

[Havo]

A Mulch flip just about solves this game either way.

He's already claimed a role that isn't helpful to town.

Unbelievable the amount of resistance to this.

There was no kill last night. So either way he flips is like he was killed last night.

Town LOSES NOTHING here.

[Havo]

Hey havo where did the nightkill go.

What DONT you understand???????

Fykus Comuted U.

Theta lied.

[Havo]

Hey havo we're talking to people that are gonna be against the mulch lynch because they're probably his scum buddies. Chip butty is probably town that's just wrong. Klazam, tywin, Assemblerotws, carcalilly are the ones who need to go back and read what we've been posting.

This town is gonna lynch someone that gives them almost zero info.

Because they are literally IRL scared of Mulch.

Smh.

[Havo]

Hey havo where did the nightkill go.

What DONT you understand???????

Fykus Comuted U.

Theta lied.

then lynch me
and watch me flip rolestopper

VOTE: Theta

Works for me.

[Havo]

Hey havo where did the nightkill go.

What DONT you understand???????

Fykus Comuted U.

Theta lied.

then lynch me
and watch me flip rolestopper

VOTE: Theta

Works for me.

Are you ready to die for this Havo?

Yes. If he flips Town. I will proxy my vote to Mulch tomorrow.

[Havo]

A confirmed Town Mulch I will follow 100%.

[Havo]

Havo don't change your mindset until the others get on. We do not negotiate with scum lol. Mulch is the lynch you know this havo.

"OMG THERE IS IT THEY STILL CAN'T LYNCH THEIR SCUM PARTNER" - Mulch

Come on teech - 1 town for one scum is a good deal, right? Let's do this. Lynch theta even though his role is potentially valuable for town. When he flips green lynch Havo. To make it interesting, you can lynch me if theta flips red.

this is so scummy i can't put it in words

He's been scummy the last 20 pages.

[Havo]

Wow. Sure got quiet after ma last few posts.

[Havo]

Havo don't change your mindset until the others get on. We do not negotiate with scum lol. Mulch is the lynch you know this havo.

"OMG THERE IS IT THEY STILL CAN'T LYNCH THEIR SCUM PARTNER" - Mulch

Come on teech - 1 town for one scum is a good deal, right? Let's do this. Lynch theta even though his role is potentially valuable for town. When he flips green lynch Havo. To make it interesting, you can lynch me if theta flips red.

this is so scummy i can't put it in words

Perhaps it would have helped if i had added '/sarcasm'. I thought it was blindingly obvious...

How about we leave Sarcasm out of the game?

Because between Mulch and yours claimed Sarcasm it's done nothing but create confusion.

Which is only helpful to scum.

[Havo]

Havo don't change your mindset until the others get on. We do not negotiate with scum lol. Mulch is the lynch you know this havo.

"OMG THERE IS IT THEY STILL CAN'T LYNCH THEIR SCUM PARTNER" - Mulch

Come on teech - 1 town for one scum is a good deal, right? Let's do this. Lynch theta even though his role is potentially valuable for town. When he flips green lynch Havo. To make it interesting, you can lynch me if theta flips red.

this is so scummy i can't put it in words

He's been scummy the last 20 pages.

Vindictive much? Let it go.

I've tried to let it go multiple times.

Here I'll try again.

Truce?

[Havo]

Wow. Sure got quiet after ma last few posts.

Obviously this was not what they were hoping for. Lol.

[Havo]

he was bad town before. that post was actually scummy

Badtown is fakeclaiming mason, bozo.

& Neighbor & Cop & Vig.

[Havo]

Lynch Theta. If he flips Town I'll proxy my vote to Mulch and follow his lead 100%

[Havo]

Lynch Theta. If he flips Town I'll proxy my vote to Mulch and follow his lead 100%[/quote

Even if he wants to lynch you?]

Yes.

[Havo]

Wow. Sure got quiet after ma last few posts.

Obviously this was not what they were hoping for. Lol.

They having an emergency meeting in the scum forum to decide how to handle it.

[Havo]

Alright. Let's lynch theta.

I prefer Mulch for reasons stated earlier.

But towns too scared of Mulch. So this works almost as well.

We get solid info with this also.

[Havo]

whered the night kill go?

1. mulch is town, and 3 town pr's used their actions on him, scum also tried to kill him, mulch commuted and so everyone failed.
2. mulch is scum who was performing the night kill, was commuted by me, which resulted in a failure for the night kill.
3. mulch is scum, i was a night kill target, but since i commuted scum i was therefore commuted aswell, thus the night kill failed.

anyone else wanna take a guess? thats the 3 scenarios i can see.

#3 is why we should be lynching Mulch and not Theta.

[Havo]

But a Mulch or Theta lynch reveals the most info.

[Havo]

[quote="In post 2043, Dunkerdoodles"]if mulch was scum there's no way they'd send him to do the nightkill tho[/quot]

What if Mulch was the only logical choice to do it?

Like maybe Theta is not a scum Rolestopper, but instead has another role like role blocker. So they'd want him to use his ability. And maybe the other goon has an ability or is actually an odd night commuter so he couldn't.

That leave Mulch as having to do it.

This is plausible IMO.

[Havo]

Lmao havo and tchill plan to mislynch me got fucked lmfao

It ain't over yet.

[Havo]

When havo and tchill are forced to bus

What have you done to find scum this game Mulch?

I mean seriously?

Town Mulch would have had a pretty good read on this by now and posted several serious
TRs and SRs.

But you have done none of that.

[Havo]

You're willing to let town lynch a claimed PR instead of taking the bullet.

[Havo]

When havo and tchill are forced to bus

What have you done to find scum this game Mulch?

I mean seriously?

Town Mulch would have had a pretty good read on this by now and posted several serious
TRs and SRs.

But you have done none of that.

You've never played with me except the newbie game I'm scum, Mr.meta

I don't HAVE to have played with you before to recognize scum behavior in you.

It's not Rocket Science.

It's fundamental Mafia.

[Havo]

Fykus asked you earlier for serious reads. And you have ignored him.

[Havo]

You're not trying to game solve. You're just trying to deflect attention off of you.

[Havo]

You're not trying to game solve. You're just trying to deflect attention off of you.

[Havo]

You're not trying to game solve. You're just trying to deflect attention off of you.

[Havo]

You're not trying to game solve. You're just trying to deflect attention off of you.

[Havo]

How the fuck am I deflecting attention while top posting

Because your posts are mostly just slinging shit at the wall

[Havo]

Look at your ISO.

[Havo]

pretty sure it was about 1,500. mulch can tell us when he gets back.

He's currently reading his ISO and going, Damnnnnnn............

[Havo]

How. Is having a high post count. Deflecting attention

You're mucking up the thread by posting garbage.

[Havo]

I’ll post thoughts when I get home from work.

4/5 hours from now.

[Havo]

Ok so no real surprises from last night.

I think tonight should be easy actually as far as what town should do.

I say we lynch Mulch of course, but we should have Dunk kill one of the VT claims. My vote is for Chip, as he's been very defensive of Mulch and did his best to cast shade on Tywin. But we can debate that.

By calling Dunks shot we put scum in a corner. If Dunk is town, then scum has to choose to kill or not.
IF they want to try and frame Dunk then they No kill and let Dunk's kill go thru, but that at least limits damage and if Dunk shoots scum, we're way ahead.

IF Dunk is scum then it basically makes them work for us, or they out Dunk.

Thoughts on this?

[Havo]

I do believe it's Multi Ball based on Mulch's earlier actions.

And Theta flipping WereWolf.

I'm not believing anything Mulch says at this point. No offense to Mulch, I respect his gameplay.

[Havo]

If it's Multi Ball,

it stands to reason the other scum team would have a PR, since Theta was a PR.

I believe Fykus is town, I'm not convinced on Klazam or Dunk. We can find out tonight about Dunk.

I'm trying to understand how a Bodyguard makes sense for town.

[Havo]

Fykus what's your read on Klazam?

[Havo]

So. Where did the night 1 kill go lol. Nobody has answered the mechanical knowlege question

I'll be shocked if it's not Multi Ball.

[Havo]

vts: mumble, havo, assemble, carc, chip, tchill

Havo
Carc
TChill
Mumble
Assemble
Chip

town to scum,

That's my read on the VTs

[Havo]

Na i think hes town. Without his role that would mean either mulch or dunk is town (im going on the assumption of a 4 pr town as per the norm)

IMO everything lines up for Dunk to be the Second scum teams PR, his claim is perfect for it.

We need to call his shot tonight. He claimed he can't post until tomorrow so we NEED to make sure he knows who we want him to shoot.

[Havo]

Honestly im thinking about commuting him tonight so i dont die. Obviously if i did die then hed be clear. If theres no kill tonight then hes guilty

I'm confused on your role, can you explain it again please?

[Havo]

Well Klazam really has no one else to protect,

He can protect U tonight and we can call Dunks shot like I said and that would work also.

What about that?

[Havo]

Well Klazam really has no one else to protect,

He can protect U tonight and we can call Dunks shot like I said and that would work also.

What about that?

Wouldn't that allow you to check someone else?

[Havo]

I guess i could commute someone else but if dunk is scum he has no reason to listen to us and could shoot me since hed know hes getting lynched anyway

Yeah, Ok,

I think that you commuting him is probably the best plan then.

Scum is gonna want to take you out for sure. Since the BG can't protect you tonight you have to choose scum.

But that puts the onus on scum. They shoot at you and if you commute, then they waste a shot. And you get BG protection tomorrow.

Or they could go after Klazam.

It's a tricky deal either way.

[Havo]

vts: mumble, havo, assemble, carc, chip, tchill

Havo
Carc
TChill
Mumble
Assemble
Chip

town to scum,

That's my read on the VTs

I'd like to hear everyone's reads on the VTs.

See if we can get some kind of consensus.

[Havo]

what bothers me is that the dunk is scum theory is based on the ENTIRE scumteam outing themselves out a fakeclaim kerfuffle

which is too... easy?

Not ENTIRELY.

He has claimed 4 different roles.

He has a very Convenient role claim.

It's not guaranteed he's scum. But in mafia very little is guaranteed. Right now he's the best suspect after Mulch. IMO.

[Havo]

That should be L-1

[Havo]

I'd like to get reads on the VTs from everyone before we lynch.

[Havo]

There been 2 votes for Dunk to shoot Chip.

No one else has offered a candidate.

[Havo]

tchill is scum if its multiball, if not multiball, i say chip, havo, mumble in that order. assemble is unreadable.

Yeah Assemble isn't even playing. Would hate to see him in LyLo.

[Havo]

tchill is scum if its multiball, if not multiball, i say chip, havo, mumble in that order. assemble is unreadable.

Why are you scum reading Tchill?

[Havo]

There been 2 votes for Dunk to shoot Chip.

No one else has offered a candidate.

Conveniently failing to notice that Fykus commuting Dunk has also got form. You're rising up my scum charts. Nowthinking tchill then havo. Carca third. I dont think assemble is scum here.

But this is the first time I've played with any of you, so what do i know?

What does "got form" mean?

[Havo]

Dunk is scum.

[Havo]

i did offer up assemble's name as an candidate.

Dunk is conftown.

Who did u BG?

[Havo]

Dunk was supposed to shoot Chip.

[Havo]

Dunker I swear.... We made it explicitly clear to target chip.

No, that was just you.

No it wasn't just him.

[Havo]

im nonconsc

Just realized one thing dont make no sense here. if dunk was commuted, why the fuck was he able to kill.

I did say assemble was an option to cull the deadweight.

U make my head hurt.

[Havo]

im nonconsc

Just realized one thing dont make no sense here. if dunk was commuted, why the fuck was he able to kill.

I did say assemble was an option to cull the deadweight.

Dunk wasn't commuted. THATS why he's confirmed town.

[Havo]

With Mulch flipping PR that makes me think it's NOT multiball.

Could very well be just one scum left.

[Havo]

Day 4 Begins!

Fykus has died. He was a...

Spoiler:

Welcome,

Fykus

, you are a

Town Enchantress

.

Abilities:

• Every night, you may target a player. You will force that player to commute, meaning any actions performed by or targeting your target will fail. If your target is not aligned with town, you will also commute during the night. This cannot be blocked. You will not be informed of this.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

Assemblerotws has died. He was a...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie!

based on this, dunk would be commuted either way regardless of alignment, so he shouldnt have been able to kill here...

Gonna need Mod clarification on that.

There was 2 kills. Not just 1.

[Havo]

Let's see what Dunk says.

[Havo]

So fykus took it upon himself to change direction and dunker decided to shoot assemble...great.

This is the only thing that makes sense right now.

[Havo]

VOTE: dunker

No.

[Havo]

Fykus commuted Dunker. We know that from the PM. So Dunker didn't kill.
Fykus wasn't commuted, so Dunk is same alignment ie town.

Why were there 2 kills then?

I want to hear from Dunk.

[Havo]

NO WAY scum would kill Assembles.

[Havo]

Because of his pm fiasco Fykus might have changed targets.

[Havo]

NO WAY scum would kill Assembles.

Scum would have shot Fykus since they couldn't be sure he wouldn't commute Dunk. So...who killed Assembler?

@Havo: Yeah.

Why would scum "not be sure" ?

SCUM was shooting Fykus regardless.

[Havo]

And none of this can be verified.

Oh Chip, the jig is up.

We know it's you Butty.


See what I did there?

[Havo]

We have two kills to account for. Suggests multiball.

What part of Fykus changed his choice due to the pm fiasco don't you understand?

Fykus chose someone else, Dunk shot Assembles. Because scum would not.

And you killed Fykus.

[Havo]

With Mulch flipping PR that makes me think it's NOT multiball.

Could very well be just one scum left.

We have two kills to account for. Suggests multiball.

It's Tchill and Havo, guys.

BOOK EM DANNO, MURDER ONE!

VOTE: Tchill

Havo tomorrow.

So waiting to see what Dunk has to say is of no concern to you?

[Havo]

Im thinkign fykus might have changed targets here.

[Havo]

Let's see what Dunk says.

[Havo]

With Mulch flipping PR that makes me think it's NOT multiball.

Could very well be just one scum left.

We have two kills to account for. Suggests multiball.

It's Tchill and Havo, guys.

BOOK EM DANNO, MURDER ONE!

VOTE: Tchill

Havo tomorrow.

On a side note, this makes me really wonder how old you are. Lol.

[Havo]

Ok I’ve seen enough for today.

VOTE: Chip

[Havo]

Anyone who thinks I'm scum after what I did to Mulch and Theta just isn't paying attention.

I was right on both and I'm telling you now and have been for awhile Chip is scum.

[Havo]

He didn't vote mulch?

Go back and read that day. The Mulch lynch was a guarantee after Theta flipped scum.

The Mulch wagon rolled without me.

[Havo]

This is how Town should proceed -

Lynch Mulch first. If one is scum then both are.

Mulch claimed a role that is of no use to town
Theta' s role can be now that we've mass claimed.

If Mulch flips scum we lynch Theta next.
If Mulch flips Town. We have Theta and Fykus target
2 of the claimed VTs tonight.

[Havo]

A Mulch flip just about solves this game either way.

He's already claimed a role that isn't helpful to town.

Unbelievable the amount of resistance to this.

There was no kill last night. So either way he flips is like he was killed last night.

Town LOSES NOTHING here.

[Havo]

Right, I just don't get why you weren't on it. Why did you let it roll without you?

Because I was on earlier in that day. I let everyone speak and before I got back on Mulch had been lynched.

[Havo]

This is how Town should proceed -

Lynch Mulch first. If one is scum then both are.

Mulch claimed a role that is of no use to town
Theta' s role can be now that we've mass claimed.

If Mulch flips scum we lynch Theta next.
If Mulch flips Town. We have Theta and Fykus target
2 of the claimed VTs tonight.

That was before the Theta lynch though.

My god. Read my ISO. No one pushed harder for a Mulch lynch than me.

[Havo]

At this point I'm convinced that it's not multiball.

[Havo]

I'm sure what we have here is paranoid townies second guessing themselves.

[Havo]

Yes. Good job guys.

[Havo]

:twittlesthumbs:

[Havo]

Nope. Just wanting to see if it’s over.

[Havo]

...unless there is one scum left and they hit whoever klazam is on.

And how would that end the game?

[Havo]

Are you worried now?

Nope.

You understand Klazam is a BG right?
Do you not understand how that role works?

[Havo]

Lol. So what you are saying is there was discussion in the scum thread as to whether Klazam could actually be an Elite BG.

Yeah because just bringing up that possibility in the game thread would be very Anti Town but you managed to do it anyway.

But since you’re the last scum I guess that doesn’t matter now anyhow.

[Havo]

Well I thought Chip was scum 100%. But truth is town is better off without him.

All I'm gonna say about him is I'll do my best to never play another mafia game with him again.
This was only my second game with him but it should be my last. That dude is a scum teams dream.

With Tchills results it has to be Carca. I'm town. Go back and read the ISO's.

Carca was given heavy towncred from that replace out. Which now looks tactical and that's crap if so.

[Havo]

VOTE: Carcalilly

[Havo]

Yeah it'd be proper to wait and here from both Carca and Mumbles.

So no rush.

I'm convinced it's Carca tho.

[Havo]

Just had intense paranoia that somehow it's tchill and havo/mumble scumteam and they're pushing for the win in lylo...

It’s clearly not Multiball. If it were then were in Lylo right now.

[Havo]

To cover bases, hang tchill first. If town, it's definitely not multiball and carc is cleanly scum, I don't see havo being scum in this situation, if tchill is scum... Well rereading time at that point lol.

Does that make sense or am I overthinking

I’m not lynching Tchill. He’s clearly town.

If he’s faked all this then GG to him.

Stop being paranoid and stop Over thinking it.

Read Carcas ISO.

[Havo]

Just had intense paranoia that somehow it's tchill and havo/mumble scumteam and they're pushing for the win in lylo...

It’s clearly not Multiball. If it were then were in Lylo right now.

Exactly my point here

Ehh. Let me think about it. I’m working atm.

[Havo]

To cover bases, hang tchill first. If town, it's definitely not multiball and carc is cleanly scum, I don't see havo being scum in this situation, if tchill is scum... Well rereading time at that point lol.

Does that make sense or am I overthinking

If we lynch tchill today, tell me who dies tonight?

Run those scenarios. Cause I don’t like who’s left tomorrow.

[Havo]

Tchill got “No Result” on Mumbles.

How’s that possible?

If Mumbles was commuted by Fykus then Fykus should have commuted also. And lived.

Mulch was a Weak Doc meaning scum already had 1 role gunsmith wouldn’t detect.

Now there’s a second scum role not detectable by the gunsmith. WTH @ Boons.

[Havo]

I’m gonna wait to vote but I don’t see how it can’t be Mumbles.

Tchill got no gun on Klazam.

[Havo]

Has to be you havo.

I understand it looks bad for me. Since I wasn’t checked.

But explain why Tchill got no results on Mumble?

He should have gotten the same results as he got on you.

[Havo]

I’m Town and Town is screwed due to the mechanics or setup.

[Havo]

Because fykus commuted mumble?

So Scum has 2 roles Gunsmith can’t detect.

That seems a bit OP to me.

[Havo]

So if you’re Town and Fykus did commute you that lines up.

But that means Klazam is a role Gunsmith can’t read.

2 weak doctors for scum?