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In post 33, UC Voyager wrote:is he new??????
you dont make reads unless you have something to back it up with.....
and you have townie below your name......probably should have started with a newbie game
His join date is right there - August 5. No need to infer anything from title. And yours is September 21, even newer. If this isan example of your detective skills, it's going to be a long game...In post 34, UC Voyager wrote:those dont mean anything, but townie is one of the first. it is recommended you play a newbie game first.........do you have past mafia experience on other sites?-
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I'll do whatever I want, thanks.In post 38, necro wrote:I think we could just move on from how good or bad people are based on these arbitrary numbers, and move onto assessing what alignment people are in this game instead (:-
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In post 43, necro wrote:Spicy.
Ditto.In post 32, necro wrote:I'll do whatever I want, thanks.-
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In post 64, wavemode wrote:
Isn't this better in open setupsIn post 7, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: CheekyTeeky
What are everyone's thoughts on hypo-vanilla cop claiming?
Spoiler: For those not knowing what hypo-cop is
Do we even know there's a cop
People, the setup is in the OP ffs.In post 73, UC Voyager wrote:ima be honest. here is what im feeling
town
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Necro
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Wave Mode
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In post 72, UC Voyager wrote:meh...could just be me. i really like to see reasoning. it makes me feel safer than just voting or reading based on feeling. you know.....
Are you taking the piss, or are you a Sergtacos alt?In post 73, UC Voyager wrote:ima be honest. here is what im feeling
town
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Necro
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Why the change?
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Naked votes raise red flags.
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I've tried to figure this out but I'm getting nowhere. Is there something about vanilla cops in general that makes it a good idea to do this? I've never seen this done or even suggested before, so can you link to some games where it was used successfully? As well, it seems like a strange thing to bring up in your opening post, and only the fourth player post of the game. Can't we wait and see what happens n1 before deciding?In post 7, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: CheekyTeeky
What are everyone's thoughts on hypo-vanilla cop claiming?
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In post 212, necro wrote:I'm inclined to just not explain reads to be annoying at this point.
Closer to deadline I'll be more serious.In post 254, UC Voyager wrote:
what do you mean quote walls...In post 250, necro wrote:So have we figured out who's causing all these quote walls?
if your referring to a quote of a quote of a quote of a quote or something like that. it is because a lot of times people like to quote other posts so those eventually build up.
Let's all do quote walls, just to be annoying at this point. Closer to deadline, we can stop.In post 255, necro wrote:Yeah and it's the worst.
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In post 212, necro wrote:I'm inclined to just not explain reads to be annoying at this point.
Closer to deadline I'll be more serious.
Pro-tip: Telling people youre trying to be annoying sucks out all the annoy from what you're doing. Not that find naked votes annoying, just unhelpful re gamesolving. But whatever, you do your naked vote thing, and I'll do my voting for naked voting thing.In post 262, necro wrote:
I am detecting a hint of frustration.In post 256, Chip Butty wrote:Let's all do quote walls, just to be annoying at this point. Closer to deadline, we can stop.
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In post 175, acidphoenix wrote:this pagetop is dedicated to wolfy popinsIn post 257, acidphoenix wrote:plsIn post 263, acidphoenix wrote:so tonight we're riding our black unicorns
down the side of an erupting volcano
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drink
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and the blood and tears of our enemiesIn post 265, acidphoenix wrote:rhah's iso:
i'd rather not lynch here based on his wagon reactions
but i won't complain if we do anywayIn post 266, acidphoenix wrote:necro: thanks i try
also p certain it isn't without even having paid much attn to the thread
also i'm tired and boredIn post 268, acidphoenix wrote:how about instead of the be-passive-aggressive w/o getting reads out of it thing you're doing
you do the reads thingIn post 271, acidphoenix wrote:nah i just don't careIn post 274, acidphoenix wrote:doesn't mean i won't
I present the entirety of the acidphoenix ISO. Nearly all fluff. 265 sits on rhe fence. 268 advises me to present some reads. Ironic.In post 275, acidphoenix wrote:dedicate pagetops to stealing pagetops
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Do you mean your naked reads?In post 282, necro wrote:
Sounds like a bad case of lazy and fake scumhunting.In post 267, Chip Butty wrote:In post 212, necro wrote:I'm inclined to just not explain reads to be annoying at this point.
Closer to deadline I'll be more serious.
Pro-tip: Telling people youre trying to be annoying sucks out all the annoy from what you're doing. Not that find naked votes annoying, just unhelpful re gamesolving. But whatever, you do your naked vote thing, and I'll do my voting for naked voting thing.In post 262, necro wrote:
I am detecting a hint of frustration.In post 256, Chip Butty wrote:Let's all do quote walls, just to be annoying at this point. Closer to deadline, we can stop.
Spicy!
Acidphoenix is town btw.
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Is that a scum slip? I never called you scummy...In post 288, CheekyTeeky wrote:UNVOTE: UCV I'd still like your thoughts.
VOTE: ChipButtyWho's the most scummy this game apart from me and acid?
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Yeah but read your question out loud. It sounds like you're saying you and acid are scum and asking who else. Of course you're not really saying that but I like to inject a little levity into proceedings.In post 292, CheekyTeeky wrote:
I didn't say you thought I was scummy? I said who is scummy apart from us, because I don't need a read on myself and I know how you feel about acid...is this one of those things scum hide behind to avoid answering questions?In post 289, Chip Butty wrote:
Is that a scum slip? I never called you scummy...In post 288, CheekyTeeky wrote:UNVOTE: UCV I'd still like your thoughts.
VOTE: ChipButtyWho's the most scummy this game apart from me and acid?
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It's ironic because he asked me to provide reads when he hadn't done any himself. It's early d1 and there isn't much to go on, yet we must attempt reads if we are to get anywhere and give people a picture of where we're at. Acid first because he was the one who asked me for reads. Necro because i wanted to lift my vote as it is probably a waste of time trying to sort it right now. Note that i didn't make a big deal put of acid's ISO - just a scum lean, no vote. And necro i lifted the vote and moved to null. I don't see anything 'forced' about any of that.In post 293, CheekyTeeky wrote:
I didn't like that you discredited acid with nothing really and say that it's ironic that she asks you to provide reads...while you provide reads. It didn't feel organic, like how town usually sees something to make them click and they provide a read. Here you provided a read on someone who half-heartedly pushed you to do so, whilst labelling them scum based on their ISO, which is a stretch at best. Then you null read necro who's provided more content but is also pretty trolly. Why provide reads on the two trolls/easy lynches when one of them tickles you?In post 290, Chip Butty wrote:What 'feels forced' exactly? What does it even mean? It's one of those vague ill-defined terms that scum like to hide behind.
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Having read through Rhah's ISO, I'm not really understanding the wagon on him in town terms. I expect there is already one scum aboard. Right now, town lean, but i need to ISO those on his wagon.
Also Rhah and CT: Did you bring some bad blood into this game? If so and you are town, please get over it, at least for now.-
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In post 67, Morality wrote:
Why would someone be able to explain it right now? Looks like you’re saying stuff for the sake of saying it.In post 31, Zulfy wrote:Don't make reads you're not gonna explain.
VOTE: ZulfyIn post 68, Morality wrote:I tend to use that Vanilla Cop strategy when the situation calls for it. Doesn’t necessarily have to be vanilla cop, though.In post 209, Morality wrote:In post 203, necro wrote:Rhah is probably town.In post 204, necro wrote:Zulfy is probably scum.
Interesting. Assuming as scum you wouldn’t make such an obvious contradiction, explain this please.In post 207, Flairs wrote:In post 251, Morality wrote:Sorry. Keep forgetting to log into this account.
I still think Zulfy is scum. Necro’s probably town due to that last thing I posted because scum generally is more aware of what their reads are.
I think I've found my new favourite scum candidate. He votes Zulfy because he asked necro for reasons for his reads. In 209 he picks up an inconsistency between necros read of Rhah as town and his vote on him. But then later, despite apparently not getting an explanation, he blows off his own point for flimsy reasons and keeps on at Zulfy, but hasn't given additional reasons for that.In post 253, Morality wrote:It’s not. I’m not even on it now, and Zulfy is on it twice.
I’m voting for Zulfy.
And 'i keep forgetting to log in' pings me a bit too, though maybe the dude is busy irl.-
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In post 288, CheekyTeeky wrote:UNVOTE: UCV I'd still like your thoughts.
VOTE: ChipButty I don't like how your last posts feel forced. Or you contridicting necro's snarkiness...with snarkiness. Who's the most scummy this game apart from me and acid?In post 293, CheekyTeeky wrote:
I didn't like that you discredited acid with nothing really and say that it's ironic that she asks you to provide reads...while you provide reads. It didn't feel organic, like how town usually sees something to make them click and they provide a read. Here you provided a read on someone who half-heartedly pushed you to do so, whilst labelling them scum based on their ISO, which is a stretch at best. Then you null read necro who's provided more content but is also pretty trolly. Why provide reads on the two trolls/easy lynches when one of them tickles you?In post 290, Chip Butty wrote:What 'feels forced' exactly? What does it even mean? It's one of those vague ill-defined terms that scum like to hide behind.
That's what I mean by "feels forced"
'Forced', huh? Sheeping much?In post 319, UnaBombaH wrote:Oh, and almost forgot: VOTE: Chip Butty
Feels VERY forced currently, these past few posts and all his votes too.
Feels like he is pretending to pressure and scumhunt, but is actually surfing around and trying to look busy.
Me on the other hand?
I'm busy IRL, but I'll try to be around tomorrow or sunday.-
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In post 318, UnaBombaH wrote:
Just a quick pop-in on my break, and this caught my eye.In post 310, Chip Butty wrote:And 'i keep forgetting to log in' pings me a bit too, though maybe the dude is busy irl.
Morality has MULTIPLE alts, this is one of them - I bet that he meant he forgets to log on to this SPECIFIC account..
I'm past the point of scumreading him for his D1s, because he is always very passive early, and usually solves the game D2/D3.
So he is scum if his content isn't top notch tomorrow..?
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Why are Rhah and Luca scum?In post 147, UC Voyager wrote:moving on
im having scum reads with Luca and Rhah. more rhah than Luca
im having townreads on necro still. as well as Zulfy, and a few others who i only know by avatar....
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Wavemode:
Lots of fluff, and naked reads. Seriously, what is it with this game and naked reads?
Why?
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Okay, this time you really are doubtcasting without giving reasons. Got any? I mean, reasons for doubtcasting the guy who is systematically looking over the entire field and calling people our for not explaining their positions, while supplying reasons for his own positions? For the sake of my blood pressure, please don't say mybposts 'feel forced' lol.In post 331, Rhah wrote:Somehow Chip Butty has looked less townie.-
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That's not even half-assed. That's quarter-assed.In post 334, Zulfy wrote:Half assed reaction testing-
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See? There's the benefit of being specific. Now i can address your concerns in a meaningful way.In post 338, Rhah wrote:
Literally expressing a statement of doubt on my prior read on your slot(which I had a town read on) is doubtcasting? In the literal sense maybe but otherwise I don't think so. Please try something else cause this isn't a genuine statement. I didn't understand your progression on Morality (or where Una's response to you leaves your postiion on him, I know that your vote is still there) and I didn't like your recent few posts in addition to the one I just quoted.Chip Butty wrote: Okay, this time you really are doubtcasting without giving reasons. Got any? I mean, reasons for doubtcasting the guy who is systematically looking over the entire field and calling people our for not explaining their positions, while supplying reasons for his own positions? For the sake of my blood pressure, please don't say mybposts 'feel forced' lol.
Yes i guess the Morality / Una thing was left a bit unclear. Basically Una said if Morality is town he'll supply quality content tomorrow, so i shrugged and thought okay let's see what he comes yp with tomorrow. Ideally I'd still like to hear from Morality himself if he remembers to log into his account. I'd especially like to hear why he let the necro inconsistency go so easily. He's not going anywhere. Can reassess tomorrow.-
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You should be permaneny banned from jury duty, unless you wre being sarcastic.In post 393, UC Voyager wrote:
Something I agree with.....WITH EVIDENCEIn post 388, necro wrote:VOTE: Cheeky
This wagon is so forced that if Morality flips scum I'd be lynching Cheeky next for bussing.
But even better to just lynch this scum first.
Spicy.
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ftfy lol.In post 379, CheekyTeeky wrote:Necro I thought you liked wagons, come joinnnnnn usssssss-
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What's 'beetlejuicing'?In post 364, CheekyTeeky wrote:
I thought so too, but he's beetlejuicing hard after the pressure is off him, hasn't provided reads and jumps on me when I'm looking like an easy target. There's too much going on with him to just write it off as "too scummy to be scummy" anymore.In post 359, wavemode wrote:^ This is town
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So this is what i am seeing...
Rhah and CT are now bffs. I keep reading over the part where that happens, because it did seem sudden, and related to the beginning of their thing with Morality, who has hardclaimed Town Boon.
Boon has said he is a hardcore reaction test player and that's probably what his thing with Rhah and CT is, on his side. I don't mind saying that because it has probably gone on long enough, reactions are out. None of these 3 is dumb. I need to reread those reactions.
necro, finding his schtick being solidly ignored, is now somewhat comically and desperately trying to be relevant, and is trying to pocket CT. His persistent 'I'm new' thing is transparently meant to say 'I'm really really really really experienced and playing a deep game' but comes across more as 'This is actually myfourthgame!' Apart from that and the CT pocket attempt, it's just 'blah blah blah lynch Chip Butty blah blah blah lynch Chip Butty...' lol
Boon might be trying to pocket me, as someone said, though the nice things he says about me are all true lol so who knows?
UCV is somewhere out among the stars.
Those are initial impressions. No strong feelings about who might be scum yet. Need to do some ISOs.-
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I'm not threatened by you and Rhah tr-ing each other, just a bit surprised at how quickly and easily you both went from being at each other's throats all game to joining forces to go after Morality - for little reason, as far as i can see.In post 587, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Yeah that's what I meant by scummy fluff posting. There's a bit of it, lots of calling people out without really following it up too which is a ping. He seemed threatened by Rhah and I town reading each other. So I don't know.In post 583, necro wrote:Because it just looks incredibly fake.
Don't worry, I'll follow up on everything where reactions ping me. All in the fullness of time.-
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When someone says something like doubt is zero on d1, i don't feel inclined to take subsequent reads too seriously. Not AI, but you really need to not overstate your case if you are town.In post 525, Vanderscamp wrote:
You just said you don't think he'd be pushing as hard as he is on you if he's scum?...In post 365, CheekyTeeky wrote:Morality is scum. Doubt = zero.-
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Yeah, but see, it wasn't just a sudden transition by you. It was both of you. Can you explain that bit?In post 603, CheekyTeeky wrote:
I'm full of sudden transitions. It helps me trap scum. But now you're ruining it by bringing it up.In post 600, Chip Butty wrote:Both of you, please feel free to comment more on that sudden transition...-
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I'm trying to get a slogan going too, though i stole it. When I'm really sure I've found scum, i say 'BOOK 'IM DANNO, MURDER ONE!' I wouldn't use it d1 though.In post 605, CheekyTeeky wrote:In post 602, Chip Butty wrote:In post 525, Vanderscamp wrote:In post 365, CheekyTeeky wrote: Eh it's my style when I'm trying to show I'm serious. D1 is usually when I say it. Do what you will with it. I want it to be a slogan but it does have to bust eventually.
I've got rl to attend to, and a couple of other active games, so more later. Probably 2-3 hours from now. Lots to comment on.-
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So...the story is that you did a sudden transition from Rhah is scum to Rhah is town and Morality is scum as a scumtrappin exercise? And then Rhah also suddenly transitioned from you are scum to you sre town as a pocketing exercise?In post 607, CheekyTeeky wrote: Pedit - yes Rhah is pocketing me.
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In post 580, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'll help you push necro. It might get us more info. Although I'm a little suspicious that he kept digging at you and now you want to wagon him lol. Although I can't talk, I read through OMGUS.
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necro is weird but you're going along with his push on me, which conveniently help build a counterwagon to yours? And if you think Rhah pocketed you, just how long were you planning to go along pretending to be his bff? Sorry, but i think you've got too many ducks lined up behind you.In post 611, CheekyTeeky wrote:
I'm thinking Morality/Rhah...I think necro is weird and so is Una but I can't pin a 3rd atm. The lurkers are making it hard to PoE.In post 609, Chip Butty wrote:
So...the story is that you did a sudden transition from Rhah is scum to Rhah is town and Morality is scum as a scumtrappin exercise? And then Rhah also suddenly transitioned from you are scum to you sre town as a pocketing exercise?In post 607, CheekyTeeky wrote: Pedit - yes Rhah is pocketing me.
Okay, so what conclusion do you draw from that?
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I agree necro is weird, though. I wouldn't be surprised of his last name was 'philiac' lol. No, but seriously he is weird. Unfortunately weird is NAI in itself. I think he is just bummed because i outsnarked the fuck out of his ass.-
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Oh, sorry for asking pointed questions.In post 615, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yeah well you can blame chip for my honesty. We learn more when scum have no idea what we're doing.-
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In post 593, Flairs wrote:In post 580, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'll help you push necro. It might get us more info. Although I'm a little suspicious that he kept digging at you and now you want to wagon him lol. Although I can't talk, I read through OMGUS.
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He's already on. You're following him, remember?In post 621, CheekyTeeky wrote:Speaking of necro it's unlike him not to jump on.-
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Yeah, it weren't real, brah. Deal with it.In post 622, Rhah wrote:Wait you actually have me as scum -_--
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I was hoping to learn exactly what i said i hoped to learn...what was going on with thart transition.In post 620, CheekyTeeky wrote:
What were you hoping to learn by questionning it? It was a pretty messed up push. Which included discrediting me, fluff and now finally enough of a reason for a vote...after you said there's plenty to comment on. Oh lol. Get him necroIn post 618, Chip Butty wrote:
Oh, sorry for asking pointed questions.In post 615, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yeah well you can blame chip for my honesty. We learn more when scum have no idea what we're doing.
And yes, plenty to comment pn. There are more than one scum, you know...And i already know what my comments will be, unless something happens to change my mind. It's just I've been posting about this and haven't been able to get around to other stuff yet.-
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So what's your story about the transition?In post 627, Rhah wrote:I'm still town, champ.-
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tl;dr: OMGUS.In post 620, CheekyTeeky wrote:
What were you hoping to learn by questionning it? It was a pretty messed up push. Which included discrediting me, fluff and now finally enough of a reason for a vote...after you said there's plenty to comment on. Oh lol. Get him necroIn post 618, Chip Butty wrote:
Oh, sorry for asking pointed questions.In post 615, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yeah well you can blame chip for my honesty. We learn more when scum have no idea what we're doing.
And i have way more reason for my vote on you than you have for your vote on me, basically sheeping 'weird' necro.-
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Chip Butty Mafia Scum
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In post 577, CheekyTeeky wrote:So I dunno, he does have a fluffy scummy feeling about him I can't really put my finger on.
So you don't like players who are so self-aware they feel they need a reason to vote, yet here you are saying i have a 'fluffy scummy feeling' (oh puh-leeease!) and then sheeping weird necro because 'it might get us more info'????In post 580, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'll help you push necro. It might get us more info. Although I'm a little suspicious that he kept digging at you and now you want to wagon him lol. Although I can't talk, I read through OMGUS.
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Chip Butty Mafia Scum
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Looks like you've got two Chips on your shoulder. Do you think all 5 on your wagon are scum?In post 643, CheekyTeeky wrote: Oh god another Chip. Just vote me bro. I'm done explaning to you guys why I play the way I do. I've already said that I change gears fast to trap scum. I said I thought I town read him for a push and watched. He didn't vote me even though he predicted my moves as scum. I mean why say someone who is probably scum is doing x to set up y...but not vote them? If that's not unjustified stretchy shade casting as scum then I don't know what is.
If Morality is scum and he predicted your moves if you were scum and then you made those very moves, it would be the perfect pretext for him to vote you. So it's NAI.-
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You want us to do preflip associations?In post 648, CheekyTeeky wrote:It would be good if town started working out what their read will be in both Cheeky universes. If I'm scum who is scum with me? If I'm town then who's town with me etc. I don't want my flip to mean nothing and you guys start back at D1.
Also why is there no counterwagon? Why was Chip against there being a counterwagon?
I was against the counterwagon that necro is obsessively pushing because it's me lol.
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